#anti-BakuDeku

[tootysweetcheeks]

“EriDeku is a much more acceptable ship than BakuDeku”

Hate BakuDeku? sure, think it’s a toxic ship? Sure and think that it’s a unacceptable ship? Cool go ahead, but don’t come out with the absurd take that a p*dophilloic ship is more acceptable! It’s actually not, and in fact it’s even more unacceptable than BakuDeku!

I don’t get why they chose Eri to say this shit, as if there aren’t plenty of other girls Izuku has interacted with and of age like *cough* Melissa *cough* Shield *cough*! Also the whole “It’s not p*dophilia because Deku is still underage” agenda is so ridiculous, it’s still p*dophillia! Izuku is still underage yes, he is a 16yr old teenager. Eri is a child, a 6yr old child. There is so much difference between them(not only age) that makes it a factor to why they can’t be a couple, such as emotional, mental and physical abilities. The power dynamics and I could voice more, but you get the point - relationship between a child and a teen isn’t acceptable or A okay! Izuku is also 3 steps(years) away from becoming an adult, when he turns 18 Eri will still be a kid and shit when he becomes 20 she would have only just gone into double digits(10yrs old)…still quite literally a kid!

At this point, BakuDeku would be a much more acceptable ship than that, or hell Izuku not ending up in a relationship all together is 1000% percent more acceptable than that! You really do have to be all types of weird, if you think that a child X teen(which would soon be child X adult) relationship is much better than a ship between those two! I’m 95% sure they said it to troll or to be edgy but still I had to rant, and I do have to say that why not just say you hate that ship and be done with it!

[sapphic-agent]

Waiting for the day Bakugou stans/BakuDeku shippers realize that Izuku not holding a grudge against Bakugou is an extension of Bakugou's abuse, not an absolution of it

[blank468]

How appropriate.

[v0id-clawz]

Some shippers really make you question if you both watched the same show...

Like hurting the other is not a love language!

[theflorasdiary]

Do you know who hate women more than men?

Women that ship a (non canon)gay couple and there’s also a girl in the picture(the canon girlfriend/wife/love interest of one of the male characters).

[delawaredetroit]

Never had a unhostile conversation in over a decade? Obviously they're besties.

Because they are often in the same place at plot significant moments (and because Horikoshi often doesn't give his story any breathing room for downtime), people get the impression that Izuku and Bakugou interact often. But it's directly in the text that for the majority of their lives (and at least a quarter of the manga), they never talked to each other outside of necessity.

The "childhood friend" thing and All for One's projection of Kudoichi onto the both of them has poisoned a lot of the fandom's perception of their relationship. It's in the School Briefs that Izuku knew they weren't actually childhood friends but that he had no other word for it. Yes, Izuku still calls him by a childhood nickname that indicates closeness. Because he wasn't able to make any other connections after his quirkless diagnosis and he was holding onto any human connection he had. The fact that he calls him Kacchan only further emphasizes that any positive relationship they had ended at an age where calling him cutesy names was socially appropriate - because the other childhood friends - Bakugou's middle school lackeys - call him Katsuki.

All for One assumed Izuku and Bakugou are closest because the only person he ever genuinely cared for was the person he developed in the womb with. And because he sees them as Yoichi and Kudou in his head despite the lack of similarities in their dynamic

[voidlessmaze]

ochako, screaming crying throwing up over the loss of toga:

izuku: uraraka!!!!

izuochas:

(…yall call bkdks toxic but i have never experienced them treating izuochas like this over deku screaming katsuki’s name (which happened like 500 times already but wtv)? and this isn’t you being happy over your ship maybe having a cute scene or becoming canon. i doubt any of them even care about izuku or ochako (cuz ochako is literally??? having the wORST time rn why would izuku confess to her?? why would ochako confess to him??) like atp i have seen several izuocha shippers butt in and go “what are you saying?? nothing happened and it would be inappropriate to confess” (and this is not me just being a bkdk shipper and not wanting izuocha to be canon. if this was katsuki and deku instead i wouldn’t want a confession either.) and it isn’t even about that. this is just gross and homophobic honestly…(yes homophobic cuz the amount of comments that are about them being boys is telling and the lack of comments of lgbtq people saying the same thing is also telling (actually i have seen several people say “i also hate bkdk with a passion but this ain’t it guys”))

[bakudekublogblog]

my favorite underrated bkdk moment is in like s3 during the provisional license exams and aizawa is like "mmm... the most two interesting characters are bkdk.... all the interesting things that happen in this manga revolve around bkdk.... bkdk are the central figures everyone revolves around" like guys i think this manga might be about bkdk

[kathrahender]

One of the things I dislike most about fandoms is the hypocrisy of their fans. And this is about ships again, yes (it's about characters too ngl).

Every anti-Bakudeku/Catradora fan says things like "How can you ship couples like these? It's so abusive! It's disgusting! Catra/Bakugo were so mean towards Adora/Izuku! Catradora/Bakudeku is so toxic and you shouldn't like it!" and then, when talking about Hiccstrid people always love them together. Even if Astrid was also a bully to Hiccup. Even if her development was null (don't say she had development, her "redemption" arc was shit and she needed more time in screen and more scenes between her and Hiccup to change from "I hate all the dragons" to "I was wrong about them". And one scene with an OST called "Romantic Flight" is not enough to make her redemption believable). Talking about development, do I really have to say that you hate Catradora/Bakudeku, but at least Catra and Bakugo apologized to Adora and Izuku? Astrid didn't say sorry to Hiccup for bullying him/hurting him. And you should be aware of that.

Bakugo and Catra didn't redeem in one day, they didn't get up one day and decided to be nicer. No, they had to work in their redemption and they also had to work in their relationship with the people they hurt (Izuku and Adora). Astrid didn't do that. All she needed to change was flying in a dragon with the person she used to hate.

Having all of that in mind, tell me, which relationship would be more healthy, logical and believable? The ones where the bully had to work hard to make amends for their mistakes, to heal their scars to make it better for the MC? The ones where the bully apologized to their victim, to the people they hurt? Or the one where all it took to change from "I hate you so much" to "I like you" was one scene, and they didn't even apologize for being a bully/being a bad person? Think about that.

And think about another thing too. A girl hurting a boy is bad. "But she-" No. "But she's not being cruel and she-" Enough. Don't fucking justify female-on-male violence. Violence is violence. If you hate Bakugo/Catra so much for hurting Izuku/Adora, then treat Astrid the same way, because she was not an angel before changing. She's not innocent. She was a bully too. And if you despise Bakugo/Catra's past actions, despise Astrid's past actions too.

Where I also saw Double Standard in media is in shows where there's a female character stalking a male character. Two examples that come to my mind right now are Hinata Hyuga from Naruto and Marinette Dupain-Cheng from Miraculous Ladybug.

The thing about them is that a lot of people love them. A lot of people love a female character stalking a male character. Dear God, Marinette learned the daily schedule of Adrien, and she even traveled to another country for him. Because she couldn't bear thinking he was in another country where she couldn't see what was he doing. That's not freaking normal, you guys. "She was a girl" "She didn't know what was she doing" "She's just in love". Excuse me- What. the. hell. Okay. So you're saying you're okay with a girl being so jealous that everytime her "crush" talks to a girl she needs to be around. You're okay with a girl entering her crush's house without permission (Do you know that's a crime, right?). You're okay with a girl having her bedroom full of photos of her crush (and I'm not talking about a fictional character from a show she likes. I'm talking about a real person. Because in Miraculous Ladybug's world, Adrien is Marinette's classmate, not a character from a show). I'm sorry, but if you think that's okay, there's something wrong with you. People can like someone and have a crush, sure, but what she has is an obsession. What she's doing is not normal. (And she can do that in the show, after all she's a character, but don't act like she's a nice person and an innocent person because she isn't. And definitely don't see her actions as a normal thing).

People, please, don't think what she's doing is "iconic" or something like that. If you're watching this show, please, don't do the same as her with your crush because is awful and disgusting. She's not "cute" for doing this. She has a problem, I'm being serious.

If she had a better love story with Adrien, like she did in the movie, I would understand the Adrinette ship because in the new movie it's just beautiful and wholesome and it's actually healthy. But when it comes to the show, the Adrinette ship can't be nothing more than toxic. So stop acting like Marinette's actions towards Adrien are okay (Yes, Adrien's actions towards Ladybug weren't okay neither, but this post is about female characters).

What Hinata Hyuga did -in comparison with Marinette- is not that bad, but even then, following her crush (Naruto Uzumaki) everytime he's with his friends/classmates is not nice. It's not cute. It's not something people should do. And the Naruhina ship honestly makes no sense. Okay, I get it. It's the type of romance we all want to have. We all want our crush to fall in love with us. We all want to have a relationship with the person we used to have a crush on. But if you want to include that trope if your story, if you want them to end up together in a show/book/movie, give them development. The ship has to feel natural.

We have to feel/see the chemitry. And I saw (and still see) no chemistry between Naruto and Hinata. Sasunaru, on the other hand, has a lot of emotional moments together and moments when they bond (their chemistry is right there). And it's not for my own preference, but they would have made a better couple. Mostly because they shared more screen time with each other. Even though Shikanaru and Gaanaru are also good options for a canon ship. Because they also had chemistry. But Naruto's love for Hinata in my opinion didn't feel natural. It was forced.

After all of this, let me say something more. You probably don't care about a girl stalking a boy in fiction. You're probably like "She's not doing anything wrong" "She's a teenager" "Stop being judgmental, she's a good character" "She's a nice person". If what they do it's okay for you, let me ask you a question. What if their gender was reversed? Yeah. Imagine if Marinette and Hinata weren't girls. Imagine if they were boys. Imagine if a boy went to another country to control the actions of another girl. Imagine if a boy entered his crush's house without permission. Imagine if a boy stalked the girl he likes to see if she's talking to another boys. Imagine if a boy had pictures of the girl he likes in his bedroom. What would you think then? Oh- You would think it's disgusting? It would be disgusting for you, right? Why? Because it's a boy?

People, have this in mind:

👏👏👏 If a boy does something bad and a girl does the same thing they both need to be treated the same way 👏👏👏

A girl hitting a boy isn't funny. It shouldn't be played for fun. As well as a boy hitting a girl. Neither of them is funny. And neither of them can be justified.

A girl stalking a boy isn't funny. As well as a boy stalking a girl. Neither of them is funny. And neither of them can be justified.

That's why I ask you to stop being two-faced. If you despise someone's actions, you despise someone's actions, whether it is a boy or a girl. You want equality? Then fucking stop with the double standard.

A bad action is a bad action, no matter who makes it. Period.

[tabbyrocks]

"how come you ship monodeku but you hate bakudeku? they are the same thing" NO THEY ARE NOOOOOTTTTTTTTTT SCREAMS AND RIPS MY HAIR OUT.

I've had to deal with the Monoma being viewed as some off brand Bakugo issue for so long now, it's time I complain about it.

the only reason people compare the two is because Monoma is blonde and mean. but they are so different from each other and its insane that people don't acknowledge that.

Monoma actually cares about and gets along well with his classmates. he is soley rude to 1-a BECAUSE of Bakugo. even though Bakugo is better in the more recent arcs about teamwork and such, he didn't get along with his class (because he didn't want to.) another thing is how Monoma is / was a victim of quirk discrimination while Bakugo WAS A QUIRK DISCRIMINATOR. Bakugo had no reason for the things he did / the way he acted, he was canonly spoiled as a child. meanwhile Monoma actually has issues linked to his behavior (ex: getting bullied).

and monodeku being "the same thing" as bakudeku is a stupid claim. Bakugo bullied and abused Izuku for a decade. Monoma just shits on 1-A.

Monoma is basically what the fandom THINKS Bakugo is. someone who got hurt as a child and now takes it out on others to feel better about themselves. because Monoma does not think he is better than 1-A. he doesn't think he is strong. he was told that he will always be stuck on the sidelines and even though he says different that feeling is still there.

[bibibbon]

Someone made an animatic of Bakugou and Shoto going to visit Izuku at his fast food job under the guise of "cheering him up." But they both just went there and laughed at him. And of course the comments were full of "I saved the world-" "Put the fries in the bag."

And I get they're supposed to be jokes, but I can't help but feel like the fandom has a tendency to make fun of Izuku's trauma. Everything he's ever gone through is always swept under the rug or ridiculed. And it's always by Bakugou fans who claim to like Izuku (they actually don't, they like Izuku being a prop for Bakugou)

Hi @sapphic-agent 👋

Honestly Iam really not surprised at all.

The MHA fandom has this very weird thing of never actually paying attention to the main character and just making fun/bullying everything that happens to him.

The McDonald's worker Izuku gag is horrible and it's not even the first time that the fandom has done something like this. Personally I just stay in MHAs critical Tumblr corner so I had to do some research into the things you mentioned and this is what I found. Both are honestly horrible.

Like I said this isn't new as the fandom has made memes of izuku and his pain multiple times.

1) either call him a crybaby and edit him crying

2) the whole hospital bed x Izuku gag ship

3) the hate that izuku has been getting by other fans (I have seen a post on Tumblr showing a screenshot of a twitter post saying that they wish izuku commits because he killed tomura)

I can't tell you the amount of times I have seen BKDK shippers romanticise bks abuse and severe bullying towards izuku whether that be using canon material or their own fanon material.

Also there's something weird about MHA fanfiction making izuku go through a hell ton of trauma (a lot are very exaggerated in times)

Tldr: Izuku's trauma is either made fun of, ignored or simply romanticised.

[sapphic-agent]

In addition to my last post, I would like to add that I wish people would stop trying to make Izuku and Bakugou's canon relationship this super special intricate bond that we couldn't possibly comprehend because we don't understand their characters.

Because it isn't. Bakugou doesn't understand Izuku better than anyone else, he literally (CANONICALLY) spent a decade misinterpreting his intentions. Bakugou doesn't know what's best for Izuku, every time he "helped," he didn't actually help he either did nothing or made things worse (Blackwhip). Bakugou doesn't have Izuku's best interests at heart, he used a moment that was meant to help Izuku to redeem himself when it wasn't about him.

Even at the point where Bakugou is supposed to be redeemed, he still perpetuates his role as an abuser. The relationship is still catered to him and his feelings and what he wants. And as a result, Izuku is cast aside almost entirely.

So no, their relationship isn't this deep bond of mutual understanding and trust. It's a toxic, co-dependent relationship that caters to the abuser while constantly stripping the victim of his autonomy

[epickiya722]

Imagine being an anti in 2024 still going "can we please stop shipping characters that hate each other" and use BAKUDEKU of all ships.

With everything we have seen with those two? Especially, all of what is happening in the current arc?! Yeah, "hate" is not the word. Sorry, but I wouldn't be like that with someone I genuinely hate. If you think that's "hate"... um...

[starless-nightz]

"Bakudeku is queerbating" baby i can assure you its really not, and even if it is queerbating the creator probably did it on purpose to spite yall after he got death threats to make bkdk canon

anyway bkdk sucks ass

also I might start writing for MHA

[v0id-clawz]

I dispise Bakugo Katsuki.

He sucks. I genuinely do not care if he "changed", he is a down right abusive person. The ONLY reason Izuku didn't k1ll himself is because it would get Bakugo in trouble. Izuku has done nothing, literally nothing to Bakugo, and yet he continues to both physically and mentally abuse Izuku. Izuku is permanently scarred because Bakugo can't get it through his thick skull that that Izuku isn't this worthless trash that he imagined him to be. I genuinely can't understand why any one would ship Izuku with his abuser. It is shown from episode one that Bakugo does not care for Izukus life or well-being. I hate him. I hate that no one cares about what Bakugo put Izuku through. I hate that no one cares.

Tldr, Bakugo is a pathetic, abusive man.

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

this showed up on my feed and.. two things.

1. bakudeku are NOT childhood friends to enemies to lovers idk what show this person watched. bakugou and izuku were NOT friends at any point. bakugou was izuku's bully and it stayed that way until the present timeline.

they also never become enemies, they were not even rivals, the rivalry was purely imagined by bakugou, while izuku always tried to stay on good terms with him.

do people not know what "enemies" or "rivals" mean anymore? it doesn't work that way if the aggression and animosity is one-sided.

2. same goes for c//a. they were friends, sure, but catra was adora's abuser at the same time. and while they could be called enemies while they were on opposing sides, like bakugou, catra was the one who imagined a betrayal and used it as an excuse to continue hurting adora.

i do agree with the fact that these two ships are similar though. they're both instances of abuse being glorified and the abusers treated like cute little tsundere babies.