#MHA salt

[theweeklydiscourse]

God forbid you ever criticize the lack of consequences Bakugou experiences in MHA, or suddenly you’ll find dozens of Bakugou stans pouring into your mentions to make a speech about how cruel you are for forcing him to eat cement. They’ll act as though “consequences” inherently involves throwing him into the dungeon or putting him in detention for 100 years and then moan about how him facing consequences would only perpetuate a cycle of abuse/discrimination.

Listen, it’s not really that much of a consequence if the “consequence” in question isn’t directly connected to his current or past bad behaviour. “Oh but his scars!” “When he died that one time!” “His guilt for getting kidnapped” None of those are related to his bullying, and in my opinion, that makes them insufficient as consequences in an arc about changing for the better.

The consequences I would actually like to see could be as simple as: Izuku feels sad/mad because of what he went through, or certain characters reflect on how Bakugou’s past impacts their perception of him. More introspection on the victim’s end is needed, Bakugou doesn’t necessarily need to be pilloried for the arc to be satisfying.

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

this showed up on my feed and.. two things.

1. bakudeku are NOT childhood friends to enemies to lovers idk what show this person watched. bakugou and izuku were NOT friends at any point. bakugou was izuku's bully and it stayed that way until the present timeline.

they also never become enemies, they were not even rivals, the rivalry was purely imagined by bakugou, while izuku always tried to stay on good terms with him.

do people not know what "enemies" or "rivals" mean anymore? it doesn't work that way if the aggression and animosity is one-sided.

2. same goes for c//a. they were friends, sure, but catra was adora's abuser at the same time. and while they could be called enemies while they were on opposing sides, like bakugou, catra was the one who imagined a betrayal and used it as an excuse to continue hurting adora.

i do agree with the fact that these two ships are similar though. they're both instances of abuse being glorified and the abusers treated like cute little tsundere babies.

[palesweetscherryblossom]

I’m sorry but I find it so damn cartoonish that AFO fr just orchestrated Tomura’s entire damn existence.

I personally found AFO just plucking Tomura off the streets and manipulating his trauma way more horrifying than what we have now.

Since that can happen in real life.

But no because say it with me folks: AFO has to be the driving force behind almost every character in MHA.

Next thing you know, Hori gonna tell us that AFO personally gave birth to everyone in the MHA universe

(Also, TF does he mean that Hana was too damn old? Man was just dragging shit out!)

[mmprviolet]

I dont even really fw dabi like that but it boggles me how he and other villains in mha aren't even allowed to be given nuance but Endeavor is. Not hating or anything I'm just confused

[tae-shimura-is-my-wife]

Ochako wanted to be like Izuku so much that she ended becoming a souless shell who just exists to be a perfect hero exactly like him, poor girl 😔

[dirt-apple-productions]

Can someone…explain Eraserdust? I see so little chemistry there. And Tenko is just a baby. Eraser may as well be his teacher, too. It’s so weird.

[marisandini-chu-blog]

I can't believe I have more to say to this just to give MHA salt but my brain cannot shut up because THIS little arc could have been a waaaaaaaaay better and sympathetic premise for Deku.

Because yeah, there's nothing wrong with wanting to become a the best hero for selfless idealistic reason, but it's not something I personally resonate with – even Naruto has the selfish reason of just wanting love and acceptance.

Because if I have to choose a story of a boy who wants something for his dream, and a boy who wants something for the dream of margianalize people like him. I would have definitely be interested with the latter.

Chosen One stories is great and all, but we could have had Deku finding an avenue in the midst of his studies for quirkless people like him to be able to achieve what was once an impossible dream. One for All shouldn't be the only thing keeping Deku from being a hero. Deku should not have been the only quirkless hero at the end of the story. Quirkless people should have had the option and avenue for jobs that would have been impossible for them beforehand as a sign of support. But even Deku offers reasurance to someone with a quirk, as weak as it was. Quirkless was also mention to be treated with kindness by civilians... and was never mention again to be empowered or anything else. Simply asking society as a whole to have basic fucking decency and kindness to people in need as if it was the most revolutionary thing that Deku's fight had given impact (and maybe it is for a japanese conservative society, but I don't think they're that bad).

Where's the fucking support for the Quirkless, Horikoshi!!! Where are they now? Why should they not have the agency to fight for a better life? Why is their voice not heard or mention?!?!

Look at Nova — THAT'S HOW YOU WRITE AN EMPOWERING MARGIANALIZE PERSON!

Even if we never see any other black-ear child, Nova's narrative make it so his success would be the success of future black ears and his tribe as a whole. It doesn't just impact him, and him alone. That's how impactful a single character could be when done right.

Alright, rant end.

Is it just me? Or is the latest arc of Mairuma is the best damn yet?

Because I've got to say; that's one of the best damn arc in the series which is already a hard bar to cross. Not only did it dive deeper into worldbuilding and explore the political impact of connection with powerful figures (something most shounens VERY rarely ever explore) but Nova has been one of the best highlight of that arc.

Many times, Shounen mangas has cover stories of dreams, goals, wishes based on desire, passion, revenge to move a plot forward. However, I don't think there's ever a one like Nova; a child who see himself in the future black-ears child and was thinking of their future and the path he could carve for them as much as he wants to carve for himself.

Yes, there are stories of a character who sees flaws in a system and tries to correct or make it better. But what makes this arc more unique is the fact Nova was never implied to be mistreated (again, something very different from other shounen. Though it's a strech because the many-ears as a whole has been mistreated). The Chief is shown to love Nova and Nova LOVES his tribe in return. But it is implied that Nova's disability made him be infatilized by the tribe. Thus, alliniating him in the process. They don't hate him for being different, they pity him. And the author manage to make that a tragedy.

Yet, Nova not only see he has worth more than the tribe's says, he saw worth in his race more than the tribe can see. Making him the most inspiring character in the series. Heck, he inspire even Iruma.

Which makes this why this is the best goddamn arc; writing about a goal to incite change for a flawed system or belief, and also to carve a path not just for the general future generation, but also for disabled or margianalized people who will have more choices open in the future.

And I think that's the most compeling reason written in a most beautifully executed arc in the whole damn shounen series I've ever read and I will never get over this.

[moodyvoid]

After pestering him for days, you finally convince Dabi to pierce your tongue.

Beforehand, he’s taunting you the whole time saying “It’s gonna hurt really bad— are you sure you still want to?” getting a kick out of seeing you nervous.

However, once it’s time for the act, he’s surprisingly gentle as he tilts your head to face him just right and he directs you on what to do. His voice is soft, but stern.

“Stop moving.”

You start to realize how intimate this all is once he’s up close to you, lining up the needle. The two of you catch eyes for a moment, “Take a deep breath for me… and breathe out.” as he pushes the needle through, securing the jewelry in place. You blink a few times, not even realizing it’s over.

“Not so bad, huh?” he asks, putting aside all the tools while you look in the mirror.

You go to ask him what he thinks about it, but barely get the question out before he’s kissing you — something he was fighting the urge to do the entire time.

[saltisboring]

First Meetings

[tinyshinysylveon]

what's really interesting is katsuki's dialogue in the end, he says, "腐れ縁だわ.." which is basically-

like they are close but not that close ;; i was considering putting it as a "toxic relationship" but rotten also goes the same way. i really like that he admits to others openly that their relationship was terrible to the point where he tries to change ;;;;

edit: because some understood it differently lol i described 腐れ縁 as "an undesirable but inseparable relationship" as i've mentioned above. i took the literal kanji 腐: rotten/sour since if you do try to describe 腐れ縁 in simpler terms, it'll more than likely lose its deeper meaning ;; if i were to edit it out, i would say "it was a complicated relationship" instead. now IF i had enough space tho, i would prob put "it was an unsavory relationship where i couldn't break it off no matter what."

[v0id-clawz]

Some shippers really make you question if you both watched the same show...

Like hurting the other is not a love language!

[potahun]

i really like the idea of todoroki "ill atone for the rest of my life" enji ending up living a relatively calm, secluded life, becoming passive with his family to give them the reins and decision-making power 100%, getting into gardening, dabbing into consulting part-time and mostly remotely etc. which all contributes to a very healthy life eventually. meanwhile, hawks is getting desiccated at the office, running on ten coffees a day, battling the safety commission at its roots, pulling all-nighters all the time and yanking at his own hair, frequently shows up at enji's door with tons of food and eyebags that almost reach his nose, only to conk out and nap on his couch

i think that's the post-timeskip life i want for them

[linkspooky]

Remember when everyone kept saying that it was wrong to call the League of Villains a family because they were all just toxic people making each other worse? The same people that said that the league had to be separated and the villains had to be saved by the hero kids in order to get better?

Now that 2/3 of the villain trio is dead, I wonder how that crow is tasting right about now?

[palesweetscherryblossom]

I’m so salty about Tomura’s writing, we watched him grow into the symbol of fear, only for that to be snatched away.

LET SHIGARAKI OWN HIS TITLE! LET HIM SHOW OFF HIS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!!

(I’m so done with AFO’s story, I don’t wanna hear about how he was evil from the minute his dad developed sperm)

[sayuricorner]

Unpopular opinion: I think class 1-A from MHA manage the "Friends class" dynamic way better than the Akuma class from Miraculous Ladybug.

[ramshacklefey]

Much agree with everything you said here, and have some thoughts on the origins of the "debate."

I suspect that some of the people on the "Touya is abusive" boat are working under an unfortunately common false dichotomy of people either being Good or Evil.

Under that dichotomy, Touya is either a complete innocent whose every action is excusable OR he's an evil villain who is doing everything wrong. This is compounded by a second unfortunately common idea that "abuser" is the worst label you can slap onto someone.

Rather than being, as he is, an incredibly complicated character whose traumatic childhood led him into a self- and other-destructive vengeance quest against his father (who did treat him abominably). And you can't sort that into a neat box of Guilty or Innocent, Hero or Villain, etc. You have to accept a lot of nuance in balancing his agency and responsibilities for his choices against the fact that he's got serious emotional injuries affecting his decision-making and has never had any access to the kind of care that would help heal those injuries.

I hope you don't take this as a troll question but I see people argue over Touya some saying he isn't an abuser or didn't become an abuser and some say he became an abuser. I'm not sure where I stand, because in a way I get it he's gone down a destructive path - murdering people, displaying his families trauma national wide not just his won but Shouto's and the others, it's like he didn't break the cycle but continued it. yet, a part of me is not sure?

I will answer this as politely as I can, but honestly this type of "debate" makes me want to bang my head against a wall lol.

This debate exists because some people just simply don't know what abuse is in this context.

Touya is not an abuser. Who is he abusing? Who??? The murder victims??? He didn't abuse them. He killed them. Get it right lol.

The abuse being discussed in this story is the abuse of a power dynamic in a relationship. Enji is Touya's parent, therefore he has the power in the relationship, the upper hand in every single way. He abused his position of power over Touya. Who in this manga does Touya have a power dynamic over? Nobody. Committing murder is not abuse, it's murder. People need to establish this in their brains.

Abuse in this context is chronic, long-term, and repeated, and the abuse of the power someone has over the other person. There is just no scenario where Touya is in this position over someone else, nor does he use it, none. None of the villains, save for AFO, are in that position toward anyone at all.

Being violent does not equal being abusive. Please please I need people to understand this for the love of god.

"displaying his families trauma national wide not just his won but Shouto's and the others, it's like he didn't break the cycle but continued it"

Okay first of all, I'm not sure what "cycle" he is continuing, but it certainly isn't a cycle of abuse. Cycle of violence? Yeah, sure, but so are the heroes.

I'm a little tired of people acting like Touya is the bad guy here for telling his abuse story.

I'm so sorry to say but the unfortunate part of abuse in families is that more than one person is always involved, and therefore when someone shares THEIR story, someone else's story is bound to be shared too. Is it fair? Nope. But you can't tell Touya to keep his mouth shut so Enji can just carry on his merry way.

Touya did not ask to be born into the Todoroki family. He didn't ask to be Endeavor's and Rei's son, nor did he ask to be Shouto's, Natsuo's, and Fuyumi's brother. Touya didn't make his dad beat his brother and mother and lock Rei in a hospital for ten years. Unfortunately when Touya tells his own story, which he has every right to do, the rest of the family gets dragged under.

Literally no matter how Touya told his story, whether he left his siblings' names out of it or not, people were going to know.

Maybe perhaps assign blame to the right person--the person making it to where there was a story to be told in the first place.

That's what sucks about abuse survivors. There is no perfect solution that satisfies everyone. There is no fluffy, happy-go-lucky way to tell your story without other people getting dragged into it.

It really irks me that Touya is the bad guy for telling his own damn story. I see it a lot and it's just weird how blame is being assigned to him when Endeavor is literally right there. Endeavor is the reason his family is getting dragged through the mud right now. If it were just because of the fact that Touya went full-on villain, that'd be one thing. But it all goes back to Endeavor and the shit he started 24 years prior.

No, Touya is not an abuser. Idk who is saying that but that is just objectively incorrect.