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redr0sewrites · 1 year ago
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Say between me and you... I have a feeling that Aaravos might become a dragon in the show.
OH YEA IVE SEEN THOSE THEORIES :0 THEY SEEM SO COOL, ESP WITH THE WHOLE "i swallowed her" THING WITH ADITI!! IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL IF THE STARTOUCH ELVES WERE SHAPESHIFTERS WOULDNT IT??? but that poses some interesting questions too, can all startouch elves turn into specifically dragons? or do they turn into a single animal of their choice? how does leola play into this??? will aaravos become huge???? the monsterfuckers r winning fr
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chronicvillainstan · 1 year ago
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Reading Patience (the official Aaravos POV short story) reconfirms my theory that Aaravos genuinely has a saviour complex a la Viren's "bright future for humanity." On the surface, yes, he *appears* affectionate towards humanity. He admires their patience, their character, and it's strongly implied he "gifted" them with Dark Magic so as to help them prosper. At the same time, part of his contempt towards Xadia and his kind seems to derive from the way they scorned humanity ("The stars, after all, have no interest in the lives of mortals. The stars are arrogant, blinded by their own incandescent light...") But Aaravos' 'affection' is clearly not without fault. He uses people for his own ends, playing the cosmic game of chess. They're "vessels," puppets, figurines. In many ways, Aaravos is as arrogant and apathetic as his brethren. He, too, dismisses the lives of humans. But the key is that Aaravos sees potential in humans where his brethren don't. He's intrigued by their patience, their character, and we can see that in the way he preys on those with "strong minds and strong hearts." So this 'affection,' such as it is, is Aaravos' way of saying: 'humans have infinite potential, and I wish to help them fulfill it.' And why? Well, he sees an opportunity to be revered, to be worshiped for his greatness and hospitality. He would be the one to share the "brilliant light" of his kind. To be 'the one' that fulfilled humanity's true potential.
And if he's the one that 'saved' humanity, then the "arrogance" of Xadia isn't justified.
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casualbluebirdmentality · 1 year ago
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OH MY GOD THE SEA SHANTY IS ABOUT AARAVOS
Woe to the man, the dark-eyed sailor
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Ship’s adrift, and the sea’s his jailor
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Drag him down,
Down, down, down
Down in the wicked depths below
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strollthroughstars29 · 4 months ago
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How far can a person bend before they break and how long can the broken be wielded before they turn double edged?
This season was so devastatingly beautiful, but ironically, the metaphorical crown wouldn't be heavy if the gemstones didn't dig into the head of the wearer.
Sometimes, the line between mercy and cruelty can be thin.
The reason WHY Claudia resonates so deeply with Aaravos' story is because it's a mirror that she finds herself in. She IS the daughter in the story but not the one who pays the price. No, that was paid by her father... her father, who was brave enough to do what Aaravos couldn't. What's heartbreaking is that she doesn't even realize what she's discarding is the same thing Viren chose to embrace in death; his humanity.
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One father who chose to bear the brunt, and another who chose to sacrifice his child.
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I absolutely loved the parallel between Callum and Rayla having a do-over of their reunion, getting what could've been, but Viren refusing to reveal the truth to Soren, knowing one is a blessing and the other, a curse. Forever losing the opportunity to know what could've been.
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The loss portrayed was so unsettling...
To even the loss we felt as the audience, seeing what made Viren who he was... his own son, to seeing what he made himself and the loss of what could've been and how his death proved the one thing we didn't want him to show... him having a human heart. And that's what this show did magnificently... it made this audience root for people against our will.
From the unfinished story of the lovers forever frozen in time to the mournful ballad rayla sang to console the stormbringer.
The only thing left to see is how these weapons charecters are to be utilized.
How callum will embrace his darkness and if Rayla will be able to kill him if need be. Or if promises will not be the only things to be broken next time.
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hiccupshypotheticalleftsock · 3 months ago
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tdp textposts: just vibes edition
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catchingdaydreams · 4 months ago
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Dragon prince season 6 spoilers
Idk if I'm onto something here but did they make Aaravos's daughter autistic? Like the hand flapping and covering her ears at the trial. Also how she lines her toys up instead of actually playing with them. Fuck did they just straight up kill an autistic kid?
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thejosiebird · 2 years ago
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Addition!
Brought this up to a friend after binging s4 with them, and they brought up another incredible aspect about The Great Gatsby”! He spent so long amassing his fortune and trying to climb the social ladder that by the time he’s reached the peak, what he wants (Daisy’s hand in marriage) was out of his reach.
Assuming that Aaravos’s arc is going to parallel Gatsby’s story in a similar fashion, perhaps all his scheming, all his time spent learning and mastering all six primal sources was because he was trying to find something. Because there was something he wanted more than anything and he thought this would be the pathway to it. My guess, whatever it is he’s after, if it wasn’t out of his reach before, it certainly is now.
I remember talking to my mother about the Dragon Prince and at some point brought up the fact that in one of the credit sketches from season 2 there features Aaravos mimicking the iconic pose of the movie adaptation of The Great Gatsby and how it could be foreshadowing the fact that Aaravos’s arc will mirror that of the title character. She proceeded to explain how this man, the Great Gatsby used his newfound wealth to project and maintain a specific image. And more recently I’ve heard that there are tweets teasing that we’re going to see a more vulnerable and human side of Aaravos. I don’t doubt that he is himself arrogant, despite how much crap he gives to characters like Avizandum and Queen Aditi for sharing that same trait, but I am inclined to believe that this mysterious and powerful aura that he presents is to some degree a facade. A mask that he wears to hide how he truly feels or to gain the trust of certain people. If that really is the case, who knows what he’s hiding under that mask. Who knows what kind of knowledge or experiences he hasn’t shared with others.
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coffee-jam · 4 months ago
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Leola’s last wish
Season 6 spoilers!!!!!
Ok so in season 5 episode 2 when Rayla and callum are talking under the stars, rayla says that the south star is named leola’s last wish, but she doesn’t know why it’s named that or who Leola is. And we now know that Leola is arravos’s daughter, who bc she gave magic to humans had to die, and was turned into a star (bc she’s a startouch elf). And startoch elves can be reborn when the stars align again, so maybe (and this is just a theory) she gets reborn again because chaos has stopped the world or something??
But also the star is named her last wish, so what if before she died, she wished for something (like to be with her dad or maybe help humans bc she might of given humans magic) and became the brightest star in the sky for her dad to be able to see/follow her, or to help people or something else???
Also this would explain why Leola was mentioned in s5 because there was no explanation of leola in s5 just that one bit (and just rlly good foreshadowing to s6 and maybe s7 if i’m right)
idk this is just a theory but it would be cool to see her again
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sorinethemastermind · 3 months ago
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Book Seven: Dark
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Synopsis according to TDP Wiki:
Following Sol Regem’s destructive rampage on Katolis, which saw the death of Viren, Claudia has been manipulated by Aaravos into freeing him from his prison, against the wishes of her boyfriend Terry.
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Meanwhile, while Rayla had successfully revived Runaan, her friends Callum and King Ezran were left devastated to learn of the fate that befell their home.
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With Aaravos now free from confinement, and with Claudia by his side, the world is now forced to face the great threat that has been pulling on their strings for a thousand years.
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I am not okay people, and I cannot wait.
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weebssecretattic · 3 months ago
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Since rayla was able to open the gates to ethari's workshop, it proves that ghosts can interact with the physical world of the village. So is there like random stuff floating around silvergrove that the ghosts are holding? Is this considered common in silver Grove?
Like a bottle of moonberry surprise will just randomly start floating and be violently thrown at a tree and shatter and the elves will be like,"Oh that's just Gary, don't mind him, he's still salty about being ghosted."
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an-actual-attack-helicopter · 3 months ago
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i can't get over this. i have to analyze it.
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if ya didn't notice, uh...massive fucking parallel here. there is no way it wasn't on purpose bro. tdp loves to use parallels to make points to the audience.
then...what was the point here? well, it does illustrate that viren and aaravos are similar in that they are both fathers. aaravos even states that he understood viren's love for claudia because of his experience with leola.
so, i wonder if perhaps this parallel does not serve to make a point, but to pose a question to the audience: why would aaravos kill someone just like him? and why would he manipulate viren's daughter even though if someone did that to leola he would be furious? how can aaravos be so heartless, despite being able to relate so much to viren?
those are good questions, so much so that they are difficult to answer. it is hard to imagine someone having such a lack of shits to give about someone like themself. but i am going to try.
maybe aaravos suffers from a sort of tunnel-vision, for lack of a better term. ever since leola's passing, his entire purpose has been revenge. he doesn't care what happens, he just wants to show the cosmic council that they fucked around and found out.
BUT I HAVE A COUNTERPOINT FOR MYSELF: how the hell would someone who lives for so long to manage to avoid considering his impact on people like viren and claudia?
GUESS WHAT? I HAVE A COUNTERPOINT-COUNTERPOINT: that is honestly sometimes what trauma can do to you. i mean, it's a really extreme case but like. the depression just gets so bad that you just don't give a fuck about the world anymore. you are in too much pain yourself to care that you're hurting people. you choose to feel nothing over feeling your pain and still being a good person. i'm not justifying this by any means, btw. it's just how the ball rolls, sometimes. dont ask how i know all this lmfao
but all that is just my guess of what is going on inside his head. i think this is one of the few times that my history of depression actually gives my arguments more credibility lol
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sagegreenfrogs · 4 months ago
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GUYS. GUYS. IDK IF ANYONE HAS POINTED THIS OUT YET BUT IN THE WEEPING SHOTS AARAVOS HAS HIS HEART.
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in the “elf sad” clip, his heart is missing as usual. BUT ALSO
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he has it in the poster. so either something like CHET becomes canon or this is a FLASHBACK to BEFORE HE FELL.
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raayllum · 4 months ago
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SO WHAT IS THE TRUTH
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Kind of starting to wonder if another faction is being introduced to oppose the stars, like theres no time for it for sure BUT…
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This quote, in conjunction with the teaser where Astrid seems to be having some kind of life changing event because she is exposing herself to the sun for the first time makes me think this cosmic war that was teased is between not just Aaravos and the Cosmic council (which like how is he gonna pull off defeating multiple immortal beings while not having access to all of his powers due to his “fallen” status) but also the sun herself.
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Presumably Astrid’s removal of her blindfold will give her the sun equivalent of “timeblindness” whatever that would mean sun primal wise. (This also sets up conflict between Astrid and her brother). The Celestial Elves follow the stars exclusively, and the stars (as we know from short stories) and the brief moments we’ve seen in the show, care only about order and maintaining the status quo. Astrid defies this preordained order in two ways. 1) By removing her blindfold Astrid allows something besides the stars to touch her eyes and 2) she wants to make a difference and affect the world directly. The stars do not appreciate change or “ripples” (*cough* yes I’m referencing Aaravos’ short story), which is why the Celestial Elves serve only to observe and watch over the world.
Something of note that @raayllum has mentioned is the framing of Janai with the sun behind her and Karim without. Its almost as if the sun supports the integration of humans and elves and thus opposes the order of the Cosmic council.
In conclusion:
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hiccupshypotheticalleftsock · 4 months ago
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Listen listen listen,
the celestial council killed Leola because she gave the humans magic (primal magic) and in all their celestialness and future seeing they only saw what would come of it (dark magic/end of the world/no more balance bla bla) but didn’t realise that the act of punishing her would drive Aaravos to look for a way to avenge her (by killing the other star touch elves on the council) and how would he do that?? By inventing a magic that takes power from squishing it out of a creature. And what are startouch elves made of?
I rest my case.
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chronicvillainstan · 1 year ago
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And your 1 AM thought has now become my new theory to fixate on. I love this so, so much. It fits well with Aaravos' "those who fail tests of love are simple animals" (Leola's wish was a "test of love"), as well as his hatred of Xadia and the Startouch Elves (he lost his daughter to their arrogance, their pride, their hatred of humanity - which served as his wake-up call). Plus, there's some wonderful parallels to Aaravos and Viren. While Viren was prepared to do whatever it took to protect his family, "however dangerous, however vile," maybe Aaravos didn't, at first, and Leola's death was a direct consequence of his negligence and apathy (which characterizes the Startouch Elf mindset). In any case, I love this theory, and I hope some of it rings true to canon.
All I know is, we're about to get some Severus Snape, Zuko-esque backstory in the next two seasons, and I am HERE FOR IT!
Leola’s last wish
Humans were going to be murdered, wholly. A "daughter of an Elven leader" begged for humans to be spared, and Tenebris compromised: humans were exiled to the west instead.
What if ‘the daughter of an Elven leader’ (elven leader: Aaravos?) is Leola, and that her last wish is for the humans to be spared? And perhaps died/being casted out by the stars (because she saved the humans?)
Maybe the Sea off the Castout came from this? Or maybe the bones in the sea is her (and she is somehow related to Aditi being swallowed?)
Also one thing to note is that she is depicted as a child in the star map in the opening (not sure how that helps)
Idk just a one am thought…
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