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now that cw flash is over… cw barry’s suits kinda outdoes higher budget mcu suits everytime :/
#I liked a lot of the suits in stargirl but admittedly I have no further expirience with the characters#I like Ryan’s batwoman suit and I like the batwing suit for what it is#Tim’s suit in titans is#honestly pretty good but I want the bright colours#this is to circle back to marvel sorry#the best mcu suit is the spider-man suit we BARELY GET A GLINSE OF AT THE END OF NWH#and sams cap suit#now comic accuracy isn’t the only thing that makes a good suit#I like Kamala’s suit#Tony’s cgi machines were cool I guess#but I need actual x-men suits#fuck the fox movies for just putting them in spandex#and I don’t want the mcu to touch the X-men at all#but I need either the blue and orange or the brown and orange suit for wolverine#the all white suit for storm#I NEED the lil brown leather jacket and the green and orange body suit for rogue or im killing someone#or even her original design it was kinda pussy#like the x-men have such good designs they’re so fun you can literally tell who is who just by their uh fuck word for shadows#the mcu is going to fuck this up
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as much as I love the common "Tim worships/stalks Jason" trope in TimJay fanfiction because it's Good and making Tim a weird little freak is Fun, I think the underutilized dynamic is where Jason is the one weirdly obsessed with Tim and makes it Tim's problem.
Like, the moment Jason is confronted with the information that a third Robin exists, the first thing he does is cover his wall with pictures of Tim so he can just obsess and torture himself over it. That is the behavior of a man who is Unwell over Tim's existence and I love it.
red hood: lost days #4
And as much as a shitshow as The Titans Tower Incident™ is characterization-wise (though I think it has far more merit in depicting Jason's character than people give it credit for but I digress-) there's something very fun about the fact that even after kicking his ass, Jason respects Tim and is impressed by him.
teen titans (2003) #29
And on top of that, Jason can't seem to stop trying to ask Jason to Tim to work with him in some capacity.
robin (1993) #177
batman: battle for the cowl #2
While Battle for the Cowl is an exceptionally bad comic, especially for its characterization of Jason and the "be my Robin" bit is taken deeply out of context, I do think it's interesting how obsessed Jason is with believing that Tim is extremely competent, only held back by being "brainwashed by Bruce". (hence him leaving Tim for dead later on in the comic.) Jason seeing a darker side of Tim and wanting to bring that out of Tim, wanting to see what Tim could be if he let go of his loyalty to Bruce is so fun to me, tbh.
And in Robin #177, Jason seems genuinely upset Tim doesn't want to work with him. Jason sees such a raw potential in Tim and is obsessed with it, constantly wanting Tim to work for him and see Tim be the type of person Jason is. And despite Tim rejecting him, Jason doesn't shoot to kill Tim. I just cannot get over the fanfic potential of Jason obsessing over Tim, tracking him and seeing what he's capable of and what he could be capable of. Wanting to make Tim see things the way he does. To Tim it's corruption, to Jason it's freedom. Tim trying to 'save' Jason is fun and all, but Jason trying to corrupt Tim? That's even more fun to me. Watching that power struggle between them, Tim unable to get Jason off his heels as Jason gets more and more possessive and bold with each attempt.
And when Jason sees Tim successfully get Gotham back under control after a gang war, he's impressed. He praises Tim, even. And then Tim just. Breaks him out of prison.
robin (1993) #182
The way they're constantly trying to see something in the other that isn't there, hoping the other will come around? That is the most fucked up hate/love dynamic ever. Jason keeps coming back to Tim, keeps trying to find ways to get Tim onto his side. They're always chasing each other. And I think Jason would be the one to confess love first, the one to do anything to make Tim his. And when you consider after all of this, Tim has his Red Robin arc and is at his lowest, getting the closest he ever gets to considering murder? I think it'd be so fun to see Jason take advantage of that and worm his way back into Tim's life and finally push Tim over the edge.
#jaytim#timjay#tim drake x jason todd#jason todd x tim drake#batcest#necrotic festerings#for the record i could've continued showing examples if i delved into the new-52#but this is meant to be entirely a pre-flashpoint meta analysis of their dynamic#but in the new-52 jason explicitly says tim is the only member of the batfam he likes and they work together regularly#but new-52 also ate ass with tim's characterization so i cannot use it in good faith on this post.#my first tumblr meta on this blog and i'm feeling stressed about putting my thoughts in the open won't lie#one day i'll come back to the titans tower incident and expand on my thoughts on why it's not as bad as ppl make it out to be#dare i say. it's mostly in character for jason minus the ridiculous robin suit and some of his grandstanding#but that debate is for another day#fyi anyone can take this stuff as a prompt/inspo and run with it for fic pls go wild#someday i'll probably write my own take on it too
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Tim: Whenever I face a horrible situation, I ask myself "what would Jason do?" and do the exact opposite.
Damian: For the first, and probably last, time in your life Drake, you're right.
#Damian🤝🏻Tim: hating Jason on a daily basis#Damian hates the guts of Tim but they bond over hating jason#Jason finds it understandable#they constantly remind him of the titans robin suit#Damian bonds with jason over hating tim and bonds with tim over hating jason#but actually he just hates them both equally. no discrimination in hating#they're all trying their best i promise#batboys#batfamily#batbros#batfam shenanigans#batman#dc red hood#jason todd#red hood#batdad#jason peter todd#Timothy drake#tim drake#jason todd robin#robin#red robin#Damian#Damian Wayne#incorrct quotes#incorrect batfamily quotes#incorrect batboys quotes#incorrect batbros quotes#damian al ghul
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titans of tomorrow
aftermath:
#sart#tim drake#dc#evil gun batman tim... you're always on my mind#idk it's midterm season and i needed to draw violence#and i saw a cool lonely place of living tim design floating around#copped the setting from teen titans '03 51-52#'i should draw characters besides tim' -> draws DOUBLE tim OTL#also if you're getting the same vibes as the dress and suit piece: yes
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Dc x dp idea 96
If you were to ask Danny everything was going great in life. He and Danielle were traveling together causing chaos where ever they went. They definitely weren’t running.
The Giw was most certainly not hunting them down.
Jack and Maddie 100% accepted him being phantom. Like they knew it was him.
His parents definitely didn’t want to dissect him.
He totally didn’t loose contact with Jazz and his friends a week ago for no reason.
Definitely didn’t try and get back to amity only for a ghost shield to be around the town.
He was perfectly fine.
He and Danielle were great. Even meeting other teen heroes. There was a whole groups of these people. Which was cool and all. See the two of them were doing just great. No one could even tell something was wrong.
Yea. No one.
Meanwhile. The teen hero’s are very worried about the the new wandering definitely homeless on the run metas. Who were definitely not fine.
#danny phantom#danny fenton#dp x dc#dc x dp#dp dc crossover#dp x dc crossover#dp x dc prompt#teen titans#young justice#Danny and Ellie have befriended them#both in super suits and as civiallans#they are totally secretive about being on the run#no reason to be suspicious#Ellie is better at hiding it#she had more practice#Danny is not fine#he is lying to himself#and his sister and friends are not okay#Tim is definitely doing background checks#trying to figure out who they are#Danielle just doesn’t exist#why is the only mention of Danny about a purple himback gorilla#not his town or anything#why was he that close to a gorillas genitalia#how was that safe
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I always see his page from graduation day
And yeah good. But
The next page is Donna and Dick spying on them. And I feel like that's not talked about enough.
#comics#dc comics#robin#tim drake#dick grayson#nightwing#donna troy#troya#kon el#superboy#conner kent#Titans/Young Justice: Graduation Day number 2#also dick timmy stalked you. of course hes gonna act like you. he learned his... very healthy coping mechanism from you#graduation day#young justice#young just us#titans#teen titans#dc titans#also is kons suit like a shirt and pants? i thought it was like a body suit. or does it have clips or something? how does it not ride up?#comic logic is ots designed however the artist think with no consistency but still odd
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#tim deserves to say this atleast once every patrol#tim drake#feral tim drake#jason todd#pathetic loser#bro really pulled up to Titan's Tower with a tight Robin costume under his Red Hood suit#really respectful of tim to not just die laughing#art#digital artist#digital art#small artist#artists on tumblr#dc comics#dcu#dc
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anyway i'm doing great mentally, thanks for asking, that's why i've been drawing so much 👍
doing just fine 👍
#warrior draws#warrior's thoughts#tim drake#conner kent#timkon#teen titans#i guess#it's mostly timkon#also a reference sheet for tim#bc i needed one to finish the timkon kiss#and also i wanted to give him a cool costume to go with his cool name#so i guess#tangled threads#bc the kestrel name and suit are for that universe#as are the titans' designs
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sometimes you're just listening to your music and then a song comes on and you're struck with a vision. idk what to tell you
#tim drake#dc comics#feels a bit disingenuous to tag this as#dc robin#robin#but this is from before his red robin era so#anyway i dont intend this as shipping but also. ive read the comics. i have eyes. so tag it how you want#also this gave me the excuse to make his last robin suit not quite as awful to look at for me personally#for anyone interested the song is annabel's lament from the dolls of new albion. the whole song doesnt quite fit but this part resonates#dcu#dc universe#dc fanart#anyway i know im also focused on kon here bc i just read the relevant ac09 issue#but didnt tim also try cloning bart. why does nobody ever talk about that#like. thats why the two of them are there in the second part of titans of tomorrow. bc evil gun batman tim succeeded in cloning them
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Dick and Kory talk about how he’s left the titans because he doesn’t think he should be leading family into battle. Kory tells him he’s so much like Bruce sometimes that she hates it. She then gives dick an open invite back to the titans and says she’ll follow him if he goes (Outsiders secret files and origins #2)
#dickkory#outsiders#Tim and dick#dick and bruce#not to sound stupid but who’s the other person he loves most#dick and titans#Donna obviously#then???#it it Kory? or????#wait is Wally dead#leader dick#haven’t seen him in a while#her giving him his first suit back is so bahshhshs#beautiful#love it#too bad absolutely fucking nothing is going to change. because comic writers are fucking allergic to letting character development stay#developed#I fucking hate it#dc#dick grayson#nightwing
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Girl help I’ve got one year later Tim on the brain. I’m enraptured and enthralled by how horrible of a time he’s having. Threeish years of comics is a relatively short time span and yet it gives me reasons to cry such as : “they were his colors” robin suit . Titans of tomorrow scene where Batman gives Tim a gun and then leaves the room. He gets fear gassed in face the face and it doesn’t stop him because he feels like all his worst fears have already come true. Robin 156. Robin 167. The Lazarus pit thing in resurrection of Ra’s Al Ghul. He is having the worst time guys. Guys . Bro please he just cannot catch a break. Waaugh. No one talk to me I’m having feelings.
#tim drake#robin iii#dc comics#rockinramblings#Tim Drake suicide issue you live in my head.#robin 167 deathwish you live in my head forever.#titans of tomorrow Tim and gun Batman subplot you live in my head forever.#his colors robin suit I’m sobbing over you#face the face!!! screaming abt this entire arc!!!#1yrl8r Tim i will never stop thinking about you.
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expression practice w tim!! he angy >:(
#tim drake#red robin#young justice#young justice 1998#teen titans#dc#dc comics#i really like my long haired tim design. i think it suits him#the 2 expressions i can do with some amount of confidence are pleasantly neutral and absolutely furious#perhaps that says something about me. oh well#art#my art#weaverofink
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A few thoughts:
JASON TODD, my beloved
I aspire to have the confidence Tim Drake does. I mean, going out as Robin with pretty much NO training at all and then telling Jason Todd, former Robin and current Red Hood, to spar him as if Jason wouldn’t obliterate him in 5 seconds. I love Tim with my whole heart
Jason training Tim will live in my head rent free for the rest of my life
“Was I on your fucking bucket list?” “Kind of, yeah” Okay nerd (same)
Jason giving Tim a motorcycle????????????????????
Dick being the one who called to have Jason train Tim (lots to unpack there and it is easily one of my favorite things now)
#okay look do i know other things happened in that episode? yes#do i remember any of it because i was too focused on finally getting to see jason and tim interact? absolutely not#i sent like 100 messages to my friend and there were sleeping#they were*#i became the most annoying person and i don't even care#it was great#i had hope that dick had called jason because that made so much more sense and i'm never getting over it#i almost woke up my house when dick walked in with the suit case#titans#titans spoilers#jason todd#tim drake#dick grayson#robin#red hood#red robin#nightwing#kaylee talks
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PART TWO IS FINALLY GONNA DROP APRIL 13 WE GOT A TRAILER
#i know they didn't give tim a suit just to wear for like a few episodes#im happy to see jason training him tho we giving jason somewhat of a redemption arc okkkkk#titans#hbo titans#why am i watching the trailer and i have absolutely no clue what's going on#THIS TRAILER MAKING ME THINK ITS GONNA BE GAR AND KORYS SEASON LIKE THEY GONNNA EAT#TIM IN THE SUIT LOOKS SO GOOD ITS A LIL BULKY BUT THIS VERSIOJ OF THE SUIT IS MY FAVORITE#gar logan titans#dick grayson titans#kory anders titans#rachel roth titans#AAAA JASON THIS SHOW DID HIM SO DIRTY BUT THIS LAST SEASON LOOKING TOO GOOD#not me calling it season 2
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thinking about how dirty new 52 did tim drake and being eternally glad that long national nightmare is over
#dc comics#batfam#titans#young justice#tim drake#robin#red robin#new 52#i do like red robin though#and the suit was cool
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jason and tim could genuinely have created a genre shifting dynamic rife with poignant class commentary like i sound delusional but all of the pieces were there for them to really hone in on some of the most pressing issues people have with batman as a mythos and its interaction with the system but 90s writers who possessed even an ounce of social nuance were too dedicated to the fuck jason todd train for that and 00s writers were brainwashed by fanbases into thinking they were gods when their work was the equivalent of sewer water
#to be deleted#IT GENUINELY MAKES ME ANGRY. YOU HAD SO MUCH MATERIAL#AND YOU WASTED IT ON A CATFIGHT IN TITANS TOWER OVER A SUIT LIKE KYS#obv disclaimer that this is NOT pro jay / tim as a ship batcest freaks DNI
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