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I think a thing that people get wrong about Jason's anger is that it's not explosive.
It's cold. Jason isn't the type of person who storms off at every little thing or goes throwing tantrums and setting things on fire blindfully.
He's the type of person who's very practical. He keeps to himself, always. You rarely see issues where Jason's anger is reactive at the moment where the trigger happens to him. If you see his character up close, most of the time when he's triggered his reaction is calm. Even cold.
He gets triggered -> He keeps to himself ā He makes a plan ā And then he reacts.
Jason's anger being something explosive and out of character and out of place is actually how other people (characters) see it, because they have no idea on how it's playing out on Jason's head.
And that's a thing you can see operating since he was a child.
Where the only exceptions about this effect is either when someone he believes needs his help is involved.
See Nightwing Annual (2021)
But In Batman #411 when Jason learns the fact that Two-Face was responsible for his father's death and Bruce was keeping that from him as a secret his first reaction isn't to blow up on him.
Was to seethe.
Bruce goes up home after dealing with a Two-Face case (in my field we call that poetic irony) and asks Alfred where Jason is, Alfred's answer is that he's been sleeping all day (which is a conclusion that Alfred drew probably after going to check on Jason and seeing him in fact on his bed all day).
But when you see the next panel, even though he is on the bed, He's fully awake and both his expression and his body language shows that he's in fact angry.
This is the first time he appears again in the comics after learning that Two Face killed his dad.
Jason doesn't go towards Bruce immediately to demand an explanation or ask why he did this, or even to throw the truth on his face.
(Which could be debatable that that's something the Dick would usually do, but I'm not that literate on Dick's comics)
His reaction wasn't immediate.
His reaction was to go to his bed and stay quiet. Jason stayed calm and collected the whole trip until meeting Two Face again.
But the moment Jason as Robin has the opportunity to get his hands on Two-Face he does this
From Bruce, and maybe Alfred's perspective it could be interpreted as out of place or him storming off.
But it isn't. Jason was able to keep his cool (even though he shut off), until he was face a face to Two Face.
Does that mean he planned that to happen?
That's debatable, in any moment of this issue it is shown that Jason was actually planning to get to Two Face and do this. I my personal opinion, other and much more plausible explanation is: That he was in fact trying to keep to himself but couldn't hold back the moment that he saw his dad's murder.
You can see the same thing happening as Jason learns that Batman got another Robin in Red Hood: Lost Days.
Talia asks "You all right?" and Jason's first answer is "Sure Why Wouldn't I Be Alright?"
When he's alone he finally has the moment to break down.
(Actually both Red Hood: The lost days and Batman: Under the Red Hood are great case studies on how that usually play out on Jason's head.)
Jason is way more in control of his emotions than people ever give him credit for. The thing is that Jason holds it back until he either blows off or is capable to throw it back in someone's face.
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Who's to blame? How Jason Todd is blamed for his own demise (Part II)
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i would argue that everyone's gripe with their favs characterization is a direct result of trying so hard to make batman gritty, and dark, and realistic that they forgot that they were writing a hero, or heros. so they spiraled further and further down this abyss, not looking for a way out, and then something hilarious happens -- they reintroduce jason todd to the canon and shit gets messy, and it gets messy fast.
because for 2 decades, jason was JUST a tragic footnote in his story, a reason to sympathize with bruce. jason had stopped being a person, and had become the dead wife that haunts the narrative -- a trope, a convenient way to max out bruce's man pain scale.
but then jason's here, doing shit, with thoughts and opinions. he's introduced with core values, both explicit and implicit traumas, a personality, all the things to make a character feel real, but he's the villain. you know he's supposed to be the villain.
but he's jason, we know jason. he's been dead, sure, but he's been apart of the narrative for the last 17 years -- he's familiar. we know what happened to him, we can see why he's hurt. . . is what he's doing really THAT bad?
jason, as a character, who is introduced as very much so a bat -- who dabbles in murder, in a city where mass murderers are liable to walk free or escape just as easy, where the cops and courts are dirty and corrupt to an absurd degree, where bruce fails repeatedly to contain his most repetitive and egregious offenders -- naturally makes batman look bad.
so they CONSTANTLY have to undo, and rewrite, and rework, and completely override key attributes of jason's character because THEY wrote batman to be incompatible with gotham. if you say jason kills blindly, and hurts innocent people either on purpose or in the process, then batman is fine. we can turn our heads, we can look the other way, we can continue to exist in a canon where a DIFFERENT option isnt on the table.
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The S in Syria stands for SLAYš
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love the queen attitude.
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I leave the batfandom for A WEEK then come back and find out that not only jason todd is dead AGAIN but *checks notes* he died an EMBARRASSING death??? and *checks notes* HE'S ALIVE???
#JasonTodd#Jason todd#this feels like watching riverdale. I'm having a PTSD rn#this guy's dad lore will go INSANE#Dc is the netflix of comics atp#jason todd should make a commetary yt channel atp#ābreaking my silence: Bruce wayne is A SLUTā#he didn't even reach to his 30s and he died TWICE?#he lived the life of a greek mythological person atp#Jason Todd would undeniably understand William afton.#he just gets him#if you're a JASON you're destined to die at least once in a decade#he's the only white who has the rightful permission to say āwhen i was your ageā#batboys#batbros#batfam shenanigans#batman#dc red hood#jason todd#red hood#batdad#jason peter todd#under the red hood#batman 148
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At this point, DC is a social experiment. I refuse to believe those people are real.
#jason todd#Jason puts the ādone with these shitheadsā in DC#This man taking a break is jeopardy for DC#I bet they were using darts to make this plotline#it's like watching riverdale. The horrors#he died an embarrassing death. they hate him so muchš#Dc is the epitome of fuck around then find out#next thing we know Dick grayson is an alien#YOU HAD ONE JOB DC!! YOU'RE MAKING MARVEL LOOK LIKE A MASTER IN THIS??#the day that boy take a rest will be the same day of Dc finding out it's a shit company#I bet the writer thought he was so original when writing this#batman 148#batboys#batbros#batfam shenanigans#batman#dc red hood#red hood#jason peter todd#under the red hood
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I have this genuine question for myself? do I bring bad luck to certain atmospheres???
like, I was just starting to follow this fanfiction and one day the author suddenly posted that she'll stop due to many reasons, and like, I was also just starting to follow this artist on her blog and she ALSO posted that she'll stop for many reasons. And like, I was following this music band and when i was just getting excited about their new album they ALSO disbanded?? again, I was just starting on following this couple and suddenly THEY ALSO broke up???
like, am I really a bad person? do i bring underwhelming vibes to other people? do i make them feel bad?? i didn't mean to? does really boil down to the fact that i might not be as good as i think????
#questions#what is happening#good#bad#fanfic#author#artists on tumblr#artist#music#love#couple#music bands#artists#they just leave when i JUST start to follow them?#vibes#is it vibes?#genuinely asking#help#please please please
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Shout-out to multilingual writers who are writing in their second (or third and so on) language.
The frustration of speaking it fluently, but still having to google basic words when you're writing.
The absolute joy of finding a word that sounds just perfect and conveys exactly what you mean.
Doubting all your grammar and being afraid to post it or even send it to a beta reader.
The euphoria of someone calling your use of this language, that is not your mother tongue, beautiful.
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You think that batfamily has angst? Wait till you meet the demonfamily š
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wow, just wow
the thing about Damian, especially pre-Robin, is that you have to straddle a line between child and cult assassin. Heās a nuanced character, you canāt dumb him down or simplify him. (On that note: PLEASE stop calling him feral! Itās racist as fuck!)
You cannot make other characters be nice and understanding to him from the start like Dick or Tim or Jason. You cannot make them treat him like a toddler below his actual age.
You also cannot make him a irredeemable psychopath who exists only to hurt Tim and sow conflict. Because thatās just straight up not true. Fanon.
Writing Damian needs to be a balance between these, and he needs this nuance to be interesting.
If everyone treats him softly, then thereās no point for Damianās personality as it is. He is rude and arrogant and abrasive for a reason. You could argue that heās spoiled, but heās also a child who was ripped from a culture he knew and thrust into the arms of a white family who donāt understand him and donāt make the effort to actually teach him their views. Heās rude and angry because there is no place for him there, not until Robin, and even then he is still subject to their judgements. If everyone treats him with kid gloves, then his attitude comes without justification and doesnāt make sense.
Please remember that when Damian first appeared in comics, everyone except Talia disliked him. Bruce wasnāt sure what to do with him, but he also was quick to scream obedience. From Dickās inner monologue in Resurrection of Ras al Ghul and his very early interactions in Batman and Robin, he didnāt like the kid and thought him a burden to bear in the place of Bruce. Tim never once gave him mercy after the first meeting. His inner monologue and actions all speak of hate and teenage angst - some justified, some way out of line.
Damianās anger is then reasonably apparent. He doesnāt fit in. He canāt. But he doesnāt seek violence. He doesnāt try to murder everyone in their sleep like some people think. Itās shocking that fanonās interpretation of him is a boy who goes for the throat in every interaction. Heās snippy, but in every single comic Iāve read heās never tried to fight someone without a justification. If he was an X-Men level telepath, then Iād argue that his actions would become worse if he really knew what people thought of him at first glance.
If youāre a child that knows he is hated, then you lash out. You test boundaries. You see what will make them exile you, hurt you. You are a brown boy surrounded by a white city in a culture that you donāt understand. You cannot see your mother again. They hate her. You cannot express yourself in a world that expects the worst. You are shackled by expectation and judgement. They wonāt let you be, but they wonāt let you go.
You are stuck.
And in this, you will always be.
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Tim: Whenever I face a horrible situation, I ask myself "what would Jason do?" and do the exact opposite.
Damian: For the first, and probably last, time in your life Drake, you're right.
#Damianš¤š»Tim: hating Jason on a daily basis#Damian hates the guts of Tim but they bond over hating jason#Jason finds it understandable#they constantly remind him of the titans robin suit#Damian bonds with jason over hating tim and bonds with tim over hating jason#but actually he just hates them both equally. no discrimination in hating#they're all trying their best i promise#batboys#batfamily#batbros#batfam shenanigans#batman#dc red hood#jason todd#red hood#batdad#jason peter todd#Timothy drake#tim drake#jason todd robin#robin#red robin#Damian#Damian Wayne#incorrct quotes#incorrect batfamily quotes#incorrect batboys quotes#incorrect batbros quotes#damian al ghul
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Actually Me: Jason Todd goes undercover on Tumblr
Whenever I see Jason beat up Damian I think that he goes to far with that and should just pick Damian up and put away instead of fighting him. Whenever I see Jason beat up Tim and ppl criticising Jason for that I go full on "Someone cares for Tim? REALLY? How embarssing of you!" and wish Jason beat up him harder
no exactly because if Damian is provoking Jason, heās literally just a kid. Jason should cool it. donāt take the crowbar personally. but jason disappointed me when he didnāt actually kill tim :/
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thanks, I'll cry myself to sleep now
thinking about how isolated jason was throughout his entire life is not for the weak!!!
as a child, he was homeless, both parents gone, and had no friends. he couldn't have been more isolated during a time where he should've been making friends in school.
as robin, he had no hero friends his age like dick, tim, and damian have. all he had was bruce and alfred. it didn't seem like any of the school kids particularly liked him. he was so alone during his robin years, those young teenage years where he should've been surrounded by friends and peers.
then he comes back to life, gets sent to a care home where he's unaware of everything, survives alone on the streets for a year, lives with talia for a year where he's just basically used like a science experiment while catatonic, and then he finally returns to gotham and literally just works alone. artemis and bizzaro come later on but even they eventually leave.
he was so alone and it's sad to think that he never got the chance to be a typical hero or child like dick, tim, and damian got to be
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with hacking and the false-votes back then, that's a canon real life event
DC Comics on October 18, 1988
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I think jason should actually hate that dick changed the discowing suit. "where's the drama?! the flair!? you look like you shop at the same discount bdsm store as Bruce now you actual loser!! who even are you now"
YOU GET ME LIKE NO ONE ELSE. Jason todd lives for making a statement. The sleek and minimalist design does nothing for him
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every time i remember jason is the first kid bruce legally adopted, and the last kid he made a direct choice to have, it makes me want to scream from the roof tops.
every kid after jason is either supposed to be a protƩgƩ or a family friend. then there's the ones that forcibly stick around and the bio kid he has no choice in.
bruce eventually chooses to make it all legit, be a father (debatable) when he is wanted, but he never makes the first move before or after jason. it's the only real way you know some kind of lesson was learned and it was STILL the wrong fuckin lesson.
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