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Gotta finish rereading The Cult and Batman #424-429 and then I'm completely done with post-Crisis Jaybin for the second time <3 Once again I love that little guy more than anything, Jaybin is my favorite, that's my baby and I love him <3
#warrior's thoughts#jason todd#jaybin readthrough#it's for real done this time i swear#once i finish those i can reread everything from my notes & put them on the calendar i printed out specifically for this#you know. normal things. doesn't everyone print out calendars from the 90s for their batman fanfics? 🙃#(it's only the 90s bc i did my nml math off of 1998 so i'm just sticking with that for simplicity's sake)#anyway i already have a decent amount done of chapter one for the first fic of the jason lives au#so once i finish these last few issues i'm gonna try to lock in and get that done#hopefully before my classes start but i know better than to make promises
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Jason's canon (or implied canon) hobbies/interests
Reading (extremely well established in every era, it's his most well-known hobby)
Writing (pre-Crisis)
Video games (pre-Crisis & Rebirth both)
Theatre, specifically tech (pre & post-Crisis)
History (post-Crisis)
Sci-fi (pre-Crisis; movies specifically mentioned but he probably likes sci-fi books too)
Fashion/costuming (post-Crisis)
Museums (pre & post-Crisis)
Movies (pre-Crisis, and not nearly as much as Bullock but he is definitely something of a cinephile)
#warrior's thoughts#jason todd#jaybin readthrough#jay's canon hobbies#i can get panels for proof of all of these#from more than one issue for most of them actually#i love my nerd robin <3
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That's kinda what I was thinking too! Like, it's just some guy. Once Bruce actually locks in, he figures it out pretty quickly, so I think throwing The Cult somewhere in the middle of it & having Bruce take time off this case via getting kidnapped & brainwashed & traumatized and everything else that happens in The Cult would be a reasonable enough explanation for why he didn't figure it out earlier.
Someone should probably check my math, but the timeline for the Dumpster Slashers arc should last somewhere around seven months, right?
At the beginning of Batman #421, Batman says that there have been ten killings so far and that the pattern is once a week, skipping every third week. He also says that there should've been an eleventh the past week, which should put us at 16 weeks (~4 months)
There are three months between the slasher getting caught & his trial
He attempts to kill again only to get killed shortly after the trial
So that's like seven months, right?
#i like the idea of jason having to sneak out for the second titans mission being because of the cult#the switzerland one had bruce's stamp of approval so it's a little weird that jason had to sneak out for the church of blood one#but the cult once again is a great explanation#gotta wonder how that conversation went though#donna: thanks for your help a few weeks back robin. do you want to help us take down a cult in a couple days?#jason (fresh off batman: the cult): uh yeah sure i'm pretty good at taking down evil cults#i do think that this means we have to move batman 423 out of order bc i don't think that issue can happen post-cult#like bruce taking in two random foster kids is not happening that soon after the cult#prev thanks as always for being better at math than i am <3 your input is always appreciated
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Someone should probably check my math, but the timeline for the Dumpster Slashers arc should last somewhere around seven months, right?
At the beginning of Batman #421, Batman says that there have been ten killings so far and that the pattern is once a week, skipping every third week. He also says that there should've been an eleventh the past week, which should put us at 16 weeks (~4 months)
There are three months between the slasher getting caught & his trial
He attempts to kill again only to get killed shortly after the trial
So that's like seven months, right?
#warrior's thoughts#batman#comics#timeline#according to the timeline vfx-batman put together this arc starts in september#which would put the end in late march or sometime in april#which would line up with diplomat's son & ditf#i think i'm gonna have the cult overlap this a little - the cult covers about three weeks so i can't do it afterward#and i don't think there's a good place to put it before#but like. there's 16 weeks where they aren't able to do anything about this case. we can tuck the cult in there somewhere#stupid fricken timeline stuff 😔
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Rereading 10 Nights of the Beast and I can't help but think that the way they describe KGBeast is pretty similar to descriptions of the Winter Soldier in his early appearances in like 2005. Deadliest assassin the Soviets have, cybernetically enhanced, super strong, KGBeast even loses his left hand in the third issue! idk. just things I noticed.
#warrior's thoughts#comics#i guess my point is crossover au where kgbeast helps train the black widows could be cool#also kgbeast might have potentially influenced the development of the winter soldier#i'm not saying that's for sure what happened but it's possible!
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Sit in your parent’s lap like you did when you were a kid
#jason todd#bruce wayne#aww 🥺#i will never not be soft for cute bruce & jason moments like this#on an unrelated note the shading/linework on bruce's face looks really good <3
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The one thing about 10 Nights of the Beast that absolutely kills me is when KGBeast cuts off his own hand. Like sir. Sir. You literally could've cut the rope. It would've been less effort probably. You did not need to cut off your hand, dude.
#warrior's thoughts#kgbeast#the whole storyline is so stupid and yet i find it entertaining#at every possible turn batman does something absolutely bizarre and to cap it all off he locks kgbeast in the sewers#iconic#(terribly out of character but still iconic)
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Many are not familiar with what is called a diva moment. Youre about to learn
#jason in utrh#also lowkey that time in fear itself where bucky let himself get absolutely wrecked so he could fake his death#then showed up on a roof a little later and teased natasha & steve about giving him a lame eulogy
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I was wrong, it's Bruce that says they haven't talked in 18 months, but the point still stands! currently rereading Batman #416 and I just. Starlin did you even read Batman #408? I have to assume you did considering the fact that you used the updated Robin -> Nightwing transition but at the same time... they didn't part on poor terms?? Where are you getting this from?? Were they beefing in NTT or something, I'm so confused as to where we got the idea that Batman & Nightwing weren't on speaking terms for over a year.
I know in Batman #416, Dick says they haven't talked in like 18 months but please consider the fact that Bruce & Dick really didn't part on that poor of terms in Batman #408. Yes, Bruce said "hey I think Robin should stay dead," but when Dick was like "well... I mean sure I guess. but I'm not gonna quit being a vigilante" Bruce was like "that sounds great kid 👍" like he didn't even try to talk Dick out of it when Dick was like "welp let's go live full-time in New York with the Titans and a tacky disco suit." The fact that Dick didn't know about Jason for ages & found out from a newspaper and also didn't talk to Bruce for 18 months is just. what. why. It's so out of nowhere. Bizarre behavior from both of them.
#warrior's thoughts#bruce wayne#dick grayson#sometimes i have to laugh at the starlin issues a little bit because i'll cry if i don't#i can't tell if he read it and doesn't care or just didn't read it
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Detective Comics #581 has Batman & Robin caught in a trap with a bomb that would've killed them if they hadn't gotten out... everything is unintentional foreshadowing, I swear, it's crazy how everything lines up before Jason's death is even being worked on.
#warrior's thoughts#bruce wayne#jason todd#jason: oh no we're gonna blow up and die!#me (has read this before): you're not going to blow up and die *today*
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I found the panel that mentions Danny talking to Jason btw
Jason talked to Danny a week or less before his death. The panel's from New Titans #52
#warrior's thoughts#danny the horrible child#comics#the way danny always calls him “the toddster” could imply that they were friends but also danny might just be weird#he is about a lot of things#but me personally i'll always embrace evidence that jason was friends with the titans outside of those two missions#and him knowing/speaking to danny at all is an indication of that bc danny joined at some point after his missions
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damn i wish u guys could read this fic i haven't written and this fic i haven't finished writing and this fic i'm putting off outlining and this fic i outlined but haven't started and this fic i'll never write and this other fic i haven't written and this fic that exists only in vague impressions in my head that fall apart every time i try to commit them to the page and th
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#ive always been fond of the usally silly toned fan theory that this issue is all a hallucination/something tim made up#not because he attacks tim but because of the above. blatantly incorrect everything abt jason and the titans#jason was an actual titan!! not like a core member but he was in the roster. he was in the titans reserve and files to call when needed#and he clearly was in some sort of contact if danny spoke to him just last week before his death#literally why on earth does he not have a statue. that on top of everything else. like id be pissed too dang (via @arcade-confetti)
The idea that this whole fight was a hallucination/dream Tim had might actually be the only explanation for this issue I'll accept. Like yeah sure I'll incorporate that into my belief system 👍
Just read Teen Titans (2003) #29 for the first time. I'm going to have to come back to this one to cover everything it gets wrong but I'm not gonna do that until I get to the NTT part of my post-Crisis Jaybin reread. I'm going to take this issue apart like the CinemaSins guy and I'm going to do my best to enjoy doing it 👍
#jason todd#tim drake#i have got to read new titans 50-54 bc when did danny talk to jason??#i've heard a couple different people say that happened but i have no idea when#but uh yeah anyway i fully support titans tower being a weird dream or hallucination that tim had#that would keep with tim's track record of a) making stuff up about jason & b) not knowing hardly anything real about him
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I'll also add, from Batman #413:
"[Jason's] first reappearance was enjoyable enough, especially when he hit Batman with a tire iron (which did my heart good), but in his second outing he really impressed."
"I like the idea of Jason as a street-smart punk. This could make for some amusing culture clashes at Wayne Manor. He's also much more interesting and likeable, and a much more suitable partner for the Batman than the immaculately groomed rich boy Dick has always been." (Sorry for the slander, Dick, just copying down what it says :/ you don't deserve the strays you're catching here.)
"Admittedly, the original Jason Todd character read well. He was young. He was refreshingly naive. He made mistakes like all normal people do from time to time."
#413 also has the confirmation from the editors that Jason is 12 years old; in addition, it has a letter asking for Nightwing & Robin to team up the next time Batman gets injured & is out of commission, which I think sounds fun but unfortunately doesn't happen at any point in Jason's time.
And I'm not there in my reread yet, but since Batman #416 is the last Jaybin comic I currently have in my collection, I checked - it doesn't have a letter column 😔 Very disappointing, since I'm pretty sure that one would've been for issue 412 or 413, both of which I quite like.
From the letters column of Detective Comics #546
Letters column, Detective Comics #547
Letter column, Detective Comics #558
Letter column, Detective Comics #559
Letter column, Detective Comics #560
Letter column, Detective Comics #565
Letter column, Detective Comics #567
#warrior's thoughts#jason todd#i can't tell you how devastated i was to open batman 416 for the first time (in person) and find out that there were no letters#absolutely wrecked 😔#but yeah#i will note that there have been plenty of letters criticizing jason too - i just didn't keep track of them#the point of this project was to prove that he wasn't universally hated in the 80s and i think i've managed that#i have an interview next week & i really hope i get the job bc there are still several issues that i desperately want to own#but i have like six dollars to my name rn 🥲👍#also i'm sick of job hunting
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I don't have a screenshot of it bc the online version doesn't include the letter column, but in the letter column for Detective Comics #579, there's a letter that ends with "...Finally, keep this in mind. Robin almost got beaten to death in LEGENDS, and now he's almost shot to death by the Mad Hatter. Watch it - some of us fans really like the little guy!" and it's probably my favorite Jaybin mention in a letter that I've seen <3
From the letters column of Detective Comics #546
Letters column, Detective Comics #547
Letter column, Detective Comics #558
Letter column, Detective Comics #559
Letter column, Detective Comics #560
Letter column, Detective Comics #565
Letter column, Detective Comics #567
#warrior's thoughts#jason todd#let's be real the reason i buy physical copies is the letter columns#i mean i also just prefer reading physical copies of comics but the letter columns are incredibly fun too#it's like special bonus content i really like them :)#they should put letter columns back in comics that's the one downside of collecting batman & robin year one is there's no letters :(
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The difference between pre-DitF Bruce and post-DitF Bruce is very well illustrated in Detective Comics #570 & Batgirl #34. I don't have the panel screenshots rn due to being on mobile but I do have physical copies so here's the transcription for the important bits:
Tec #570
Jason: You lost the Catwoman, yeah... but you caught the Joker... and you saved the Bensons... saved their lives...
Jason: ...that's something.
Bruce: No, Robin... that's everything.
Batgirl #34
Bruce: Dozens of lives saved. Because of what you did. Isn't that enough?
Cass:
Cass: No.
Bruce: Good. Now you're ready to be a detective.
#warrior's thoughts#bruce wayne#jason todd#cassandra cain#there's something devastating about the way bruce slowly stops caring about saving victims in favor of getting justice#he told jason very early in post-crisis that they weren't there to save the world but rather to protect people from crime#so the fact that he slowly loses that focus on helping people to the point that he tells cass that helping isn't enough...#it makes me sad
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“This is the best day of my life!” - JAYBIN 🐦‼️ tweet tweet
im struggling with a red hood drawing at the moment (which i will post once im past this weird art block), so took a break to draw jaybin instead 🥰 enjoy!!
also guys.. do not listen to ‘slipping through my fingers’ or ‘hey jude’ while drawing jaybin, u will cry. oh jaybin u were so loved… Detective Comics comics you will PAY
#jason todd#not only is the art super cute (which it is <3)#but also i can confirm that listening to slipping through my fingers while doing jaybin art will make you cry & ruin your day <3#i love the swirls in the background btw they make me think of starry night
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