#Octocon

[69constellationsinatrenchcoat]

My brain at six years old when something traumatic happened

[saturns-rings-sys]

Octocon is a new app for systems. It's traumacentric and made by traumagenic systems. It also has a discord bot that is a lot easier to use than pk in my opinion. You can also sync your app and the bot so you can edit alters in the app. The app is on android already and coming to IOS soon. Hope this helps some people :)

(If you're in a server, I recommend adding this bot as more people are starting to use it instead of pk and tupperbox)

Apologies for any confusion, turns out they have a neutral stance on non traumagenic systems.

[pixxiesticksys]

Before it catches on, octocon is anti endo and will ban you if you speak positively about plurals

[delphientropy]

yall remember my "working on simply plural" emoji? well get ready for...

working on octocon :)

octocon is an app available only on android atm made only for traumagenic systems. it automatically syncs to its respective discord bot, and you can even import your sp or pk to the discord bot as well!

if anyone would like to know more abt octo i would be SO happy to oblige, its a new app so its taking suggestions and i rlly like it

[heavens-roses]

Octocon and RAMCOA survivors

pt: octocon and RAMCOA survivors

cw: RAMCOA, number names

Felt I should share this as I haven't really seen it talked about in system or RAMCOA spaces. When you use Octocon your parts will be attached numbers to each part based off who was created first. While it's likely due to how to code the easiest. it is important to remember that if you are a survivor who has parts who were forced to be called a number, are a survivor who was called a number collectively/bodily, forced to refer to others as numbers or has any trauma related to number names please tread carefully.

I know as a survivor it can be extremely scary not being able to control your name or having anxieties related to not being called your number too. Please know you are not forced to use Octocon just because other people are using it. If plural kit or simply plural work best for you than keep using them. You do not need to switch over and risk your own mental health. Being a survivor who was dehumanized to numbers is horrible and whether you decide to reclaim your trauma or are healing by moving away from it know your triggers are valid.

Know you are never alone in healing your trauma and note this post is for education. This is not to bash in the creators of Octocon nor is it to tell you how to feel about the app/bot. At the end of the day how you find support with yourself is for only you and your system to decide. With thet being said do not interact with this post if you are pro/neu-endo / believe in any form of "plurality" outside of being trauma based. If you are a questioning system, a cdd system who is syscourse unaligned or apathetic you are more than welcome to repost and interact.

[persmo]

We feel strange because everyone is super mega happy for octocon, people are moving there and saying it's a super good alternative for SP and all that

But we don't like it :/

We'll continue in SP because we don't like Octocon, there a features that I would want to be added but it's already specified it won't, it lacks a lot of functions (I know they're gonna update it but still) and the interface kinda feel like it's too... Strange in a way that don't like

Cool for other systems, not cool for us... Gonna stick with Simply Plural maybe forever

Update us if octocon updates and becomes better, but for now SP still the winning app lmao

[ghxst-system]

want say this

very important please listen as am saying as a ramcoa and programmed system

octocon not safe for us

must import using discord bot which is NOT PRIVATE and not safe got DANGEROUS INFORMATION

we also no use microsoft for writing up docs about our trauma because it doesnt keep private info safe

PLEASE REBLOG THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR SAFETY OF MANY

devs of any discord bot not safe handle data like that.

edit: see here pls

[anarchistspiders]

ANTI-ENDO APP

SYSTEM APP THAT'S ANTI-ENDO

If you're a system who hates using Simply Plural and Pluralkit bcs they give horrible and fake information and support "endos", YOU'RE IN HUGE LUCK

There's this new app called Octocon, that's basically like Simply Plural but it actually has real websites and doesn't give any fake information, it's very new and still in the works, they also have a bot like Pluralkit but the response times are MUCH faster and only you can see the slash commands!!!

Please please please check it out if you're interested!!!

Feel free to mention our page if u want when u verify!!!

Hope to see you all there!!!

[the-alice-killer]

Friendly reminder: you don't have to track anything about your system if you don't want to

(Longer explanation below)

(Also tagging any system origin i think of for reach as i feel this is important for any group to remember)

I know you see pretty much every system on social media seems to have simply plural/octocon/plural kit/etc to track things about their systems. I also know some systems feel pressured into doing so because everyone else is doing it.

You don't have to track if it makes you uncomfortable. If documenting alters make your dissociation or doubts worse, stop. If you find yourself worry about documenting things constantly, it's okay to take a break. You don't have to proxy on a discord server. You don't owe anyone anything about what is going on in your system.

It's okay to never use these things. It's okay to take a break from using them if it's burning you out or frustrating you. Don't feel bad to do what is best for your system.

[69constellationsinatrenchcoat]

*cutely redesigns your DID flag*

Playing around with our DID design assignment, tonight, and I made a thing...?

Look, it's just for funsies (and the assignment), I'm not expecting everyone to suddenly use my flag lol but I'd like to know, what do y'all think?

Coined for DID/OSDD (ie. complex dissociative disorders).

I took inspiration from the existing DID/OSDD symbolism in the Venn diagram (which is also a logo I'm using in the assignment). The colour scheme is inspired by the existing orange for DID, and the teal used in the OSDD flag coined by a deleted user on r/OSDD (and I've always thought of DID/OSDD as teal and orange!). The stripes are uneven to represent the fluctuating nature of having a CDD system, alters. The greenish-brown stripe is for amnesia and jarring day-to-day interruptions. There's a bit more meaning in it, but I can't remember right now.

I did a reverse image search with it, and it seems to be rather close to the pro non-traumagen "PMSC&" flag (according to pluralpedia..) and a little close to "venngender" which I hadn't heard of either until literally now... but…. apart from that little overlap… I think it's okay! Besides, there are only so many colour combos in the world!

Hope you like it!!

I can't tell anyone not to interact with this post: this is the internet, after all.. but we would appreciate it if it remained in DID/OSDD/trauma system spaces only.

[saturns-rings-sys]

Octocon policy on endogenic systems on their discrd server:

**Our policy on endogenic systems.**

While we cannot restrict those who use our resources, we wish that our stance on endogenic systems is known: Octocon's bot, app, and communities are *not intended to be used by those who identify as "non-traumagenic" systems in any capacity.* In addition, positive discussion of concepts such as purposefully creating alters, appropriated tulpamancy, and "system-hopping" are **banned.**

Debate of these topics (commonly known as "syscourse" or "system discourse") is explicity banned. General discussion of them is okay as long as people are not being targeted, bullied, or overly generalized. Hate speech towards either side of the argument is **not tolerated.**

(I do not have any claim to this information it is copied directly from the discord sever, I am merely sharing it here in hopes it can help some people).

This is just what their policy is for their discord sever apologies for any confusion.

[the-masquerade-council]

Octocon: A Review and Comparison. (Website link)

I am writing this on the 14th of July 2024, which is just three days after the first public release of the app(on the 11th). So some of the things I bring up here may no longer be reinvent, when it is updated in the future. I've also only just started using it, so there may be stuff I'm unaware of.

I think the 2 biggest advantage of octocon is, first the fact that it functions as jake of all trades, and second the safety features. The app has a companion discord bot, as well as in app journaling. Making it so it has features of simplyplural, pluralkit, and lighthouse all in one. In terms of safety, in addition to options for a pin lock, there are also a quick exit option and a stealth mod option. With quick exit enabled you can double top any unoccupied spot on the app to immediately close the app. The stealth mode being enabled makes it so when the launches it appears as a news app(pictures on the right below), to access the real app just double tap the logo. Also the app having no reference to systemhood or plurality in the name makes it more convert.

I could see the app being directly connected to the discord bot as being very useful for systems that split alters often. I know from our experience we often don't really bother with setting up PK profiles for a lot of our system(and doing with tokens every time is also annoying), so having the app and bot linked is useful. The discord bot commands are also more private than PKs.

The app can be used for front and alter tracking, you can also set an alter as primary front if multiple alters are fronting. Also alters in the app are given an ID number which can be changed to organize them, rather it being alphabetical(one of our pet peeves with SP is the fact you can't make organization non alphabetical, I say a host whose name starts with V) The app also lets you make alter folders, which can be used for subsystems among other things. It also let you add friends so they can see who is fronting, much like simplyplural.

There are also several different color options for the app.

As for the journaling, there's both individual alter journals and a journal

Now moving on the things I like less about the app. As a reminder the app just come out and the app will likely be changed in the future.

There is no in app way to edit the info for the system as a whole, this is done via the bot on discord. On a related note system usernames must be between 5 and 16 characters long, which as you might notice is to short for our system name.

The is no dashboard, and no chatting or polls in app, though chatting could still be done on discord with bot. Also there's no browser version.

All alter info is on one tab I could see this getting very crowded. there's less custom field options(not date options for example) and no markdown support(meaning you can't add images and such to bios and the like). There is also currently not wat to achieve alters.

There is no non folder way to represent subsystems in the app, mean there is also no subsystem specific group journals. (Side note lighthouse is very good for keeping track of subsystems, if your system has multiple I recommend you give it a try)

The app's current front history keeping is rather bare bones.

Closing thoughts

For now we are going to continue predominately using simplyplural and pluralkit. Simplyplural for it's better information keeping, and pluralkit do to its prevalence. However I am very excited to see what octocon's future hold and can absolutely understand why some systems would prefer it over alternatives. I am also always glad to see new system resources being created!

[beelzebubsbois]

People piss me off. OCTOCON IS ANTI-ENDO like they've been fucking saying since the beginning??? Where are you people getting this "They're not really Anti-endo" shit from?? All of what I've seen is that they're just not going to majorly violate peoples privacy by purging people who use the app/bot that aren't also anti-endo??? Like what??

Get the fuck over yourselves. You beg for your own resources that are run with your same opinions and lives in mind and when they don't go out of their way to violate everyone's privacy in that pursuit they're not good enough suddenly?? Get the fuck over yourselves dude.

I'm still using Pluralkit and Simply Plural because the octocon apps aren't developed enough to be viable to be used on a daily base for our liking. But if the app develops more and we like the direction it goes, we're switching over because the idea of using anti-endo resources is pleasant to me. But seriously what the fuck.

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[ghxst-system]

understand people want use octocon

but before let me say:

atlas's ethic with this app and bot NOT SAFE

neither is their approach to users or criticisism

have been proven to DELETE KEY INFO from announcements and posts

go back on statements and retract the anti endo stance

have approach criticism (for example mine) as if ppl r unjust. i voiced genuine concern for safety that met with ableism as atlas refuse understand the way communicated (pointed out by my bf in the comments under that post) and called genuine concern "fearmongering" to downplay the fact a TRAUMATISED PERSON scared to use "traumacentric" app and bot

released app with close to 0 accessibility. early development is NOT AN EXCUSE TO FAIL TO ACCOMMODATE

[pt: early development is not an excuse to fail to accommodate]

[octocon-unofficial-logs]

What is Octocon?

Octocon is a new app and bot for systems. It is very similar to Pluralkit and Simply Plural. But it's aimed towards traumagenic systems, and it does both.

It has an app you can download and a Discord bot. This is currently only available on Android, but it is coming to IOS soon. The app is still new and still has things it needs and will add. But for now, feel free to wait until more updates and be patient with the team behind Octocon.

How is it designed towards traumagenic systems?: In their official statements. They acknowledge that they can't keep anyone from using their resources, but they make their stance known. If they catch anyone in their discord server and such that believes/are endo/nontraumagenic, system hopping, and all the things, will be banned. While they do say that they are neutral on the stance, they would prefer if their community was towards traumagenic systems.

What about all my progress on Simply Plural/pluralkit?: It's okay to be worried about that. But they have added a system where you can import your system and data into it via a specific and special token. They have guides about it.