#octocon bot

[saturns-rings-sys]

Octocon is a new app for systems. It's traumacentric and made by traumagenic systems. It also has a discord bot that is a lot easier to use than pk in my opinion. You can also sync your app and the bot so you can edit alters in the app. The app is on android already and coming to IOS soon. Hope this helps some people :)

(If you're in a server, I recommend adding this bot as more people are starting to use it instead of pk and tupperbox)

Apologies for any confusion, turns out they have a neutral stance on non traumagenic systems.

[beelzebubsbois]

People piss me off. OCTOCON IS ANTI-ENDO like they've been fucking saying since the beginning??? Where are you people getting this "They're not really Anti-endo" shit from?? All of what I've seen is that they're just not going to majorly violate peoples privacy by purging people who use the app/bot that aren't also anti-endo??? Like what??

Get the fuck over yourselves. You beg for your own resources that are run with your same opinions and lives in mind and when they don't go out of their way to violate everyone's privacy in that pursuit they're not good enough suddenly?? Get the fuck over yourselves dude.

I'm still using Pluralkit and Simply Plural because the octocon apps aren't developed enough to be viable to be used on a daily base for our liking. But if the app develops more and we like the direction it goes, we're switching over because the idea of using anti-endo resources is pleasant to me. But seriously what the fuck.

[noxthesynners]

So, we poked around with that Octocon app/bot and ended up deleting everything because we didn't like how it is set up, but-

We do like the fact the developer isn't actually hateful about endogenic systems, they literally say their resource is for DID/OSDD and that they don't allow hateful discourse/syscourse in the server.

The developer's approach is actually what should be done with making resources for a certain demographic- they have their target audience, really.

Honestly the short time we spent in the Octocon server has us thinking about picking the app/bot back up for our own personal use (we wish SP had journals instead of the chat feature, honestly) and it feels like the developers of Octocon took the best features from both SP and PK and combined them while removing some (the chat feature since the bot in discord handles chat better than having an in app chat)

So it's not bad and the developers are actually not anti-endo and are a true example of being neutral. They do mention that they don't want people talking about created plurality and I honestly think it is so they don't offend their anti-endo CDD users. They're not denying it, just saying "hey, don't talk about that here, this is for this group, not that one" and they don't seem to be going on hunts to remove users who aren't traumagenic/disordered.

So yeah, that's our opinion of the bot/app.

Might try it again (mainly for the journal feature, we have been DYING for a journal feature in an app) because trying to journal in things like discord or writing them down on paper can be a hassle, plus we really need private communication.

So yeah....journal feature got us. Also even though we're pro endo we fall into their target audience since we do have DID. We will still be using PK/SP though.

[v4mpire-pr1nce-c0llective]

reminder that octocon is anti endo but they claim to be more neutral because they cant control who will use their bot/app. theyre traumagenic-centric is the wording they've used and im like 90% sure theyve described the app as anti endo since its being developed. so. no need to yell about how endo neutral they are

[dreamstatess]

Hello fellow systems.

I have been made aware of a new app for us (It's anti-endo)

The app is called Octocon, and it's only on Samsung/Android right now. (IOS is coming soon)

It has a discord bot as well.

[delphientropy]

yall remember my "working on simply plural" emoji? well get ready for...

working on octocon :)

octocon is an app available only on android atm made only for traumagenic systems. it automatically syncs to its respective discord bot, and you can even import your sp or pk to the discord bot as well!

if anyone would like to know more abt octo i would be SO happy to oblige, its a new app so its taking suggestions and i rlly like it

[heavens-roses]

Octocon and RAMCOA survivors

pt: octocon and RAMCOA survivors

cw: RAMCOA, number names

Felt I should share this as I haven't really seen it talked about in system or RAMCOA spaces. When you use Octocon your parts will be attached numbers to each part based off who was created first. While it's likely due to how to code the easiest. it is important to remember that if you are a survivor who has parts who were forced to be called a number, are a survivor who was called a number collectively/bodily, forced to refer to others as numbers or has any trauma related to number names please tread carefully.

I know as a survivor it can be extremely scary not being able to control your name or having anxieties related to not being called your number too. Please know you are not forced to use Octocon just because other people are using it. If plural kit or simply plural work best for you than keep using them. You do not need to switch over and risk your own mental health. Being a survivor who was dehumanized to numbers is horrible and whether you decide to reclaim your trauma or are healing by moving away from it know your triggers are valid.

Know you are never alone in healing your trauma and note this post is for education. This is not to bash in the creators of Octocon nor is it to tell you how to feel about the app/bot. At the end of the day how you find support with yourself is for only you and your system to decide. With thet being said do not interact with this post if you are pro/neu-endo / believe in any form of "plurality" outside of being trauma based. If you are a questioning system, a cdd system who is syscourse unaligned or apathetic you are more than welcome to repost and interact.

[ghxst-system]

want say this

very important please listen as am saying as a ramcoa and programmed system

octocon not safe for us

must import using discord bot which is NOT PRIVATE and not safe got DANGEROUS INFORMATION

we also no use microsoft for writing up docs about our trauma because it doesnt keep private info safe

PLEASE REBLOG THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR SAFETY OF MANY

devs of any discord bot not safe handle data like that.

edit: see here pls

[saturns-rings-sys]

Octocon policy on endogenic systems on their discrd server:

**Our policy on endogenic systems.**

While we cannot restrict those who use our resources, we wish that our stance on endogenic systems is known: Octocon's bot, app, and communities are *not intended to be used by those who identify as "non-traumagenic" systems in any capacity.* In addition, positive discussion of concepts such as purposefully creating alters, appropriated tulpamancy, and "system-hopping" are **banned.**

Debate of these topics (commonly known as "syscourse" or "system discourse") is explicity banned. General discussion of them is okay as long as people are not being targeted, bullied, or overly generalized. Hate speech towards either side of the argument is **not tolerated.**

(I do not have any claim to this information it is copied directly from the discord sever, I am merely sharing it here in hopes it can help some people).

This is just what their policy is for their discord sever apologies for any confusion.

[octocon]

Join the Octocommune!

Hi, everyone! We've just set up a new community Discord server for Octocon, that we're calling the Octocommune!

In addition to general and mutual support chats, we plan on hosting regular events to keep everyone engaged. We've been hard at work on this for quite a while now, and we're finally excited to show it off!

You can join us with the link below:

[elamorsys]

octocon

hi! so there is a new system app and discord bot that is trauma centric! its called octocon and its on android only so far!

we so excited for it to come out on apple, and plan to use it when it does!

we actually are a demo tester for it on iOS YAYAY

[the-alarm-system]

Hey singlet roleplayers! You feel guilty as fuck for using a plural focused bot like pluralkit? I got good news for you, a discord bot made for singlets roleplayers called “Octocon“! Have fun fucking shit up as your favorite character using this app made for singlet roleplayers! - SCALD

[anarchistspiders]

ANTI-ENDO APP

SYSTEM APP THAT'S ANTI-ENDO

If you're a system who hates using Simply Plural and Pluralkit bcs they give horrible and fake information and support "endos", YOU'RE IN HUGE LUCK

There's this new app called Octocon, that's basically like Simply Plural but it actually has real websites and doesn't give any fake information, it's very new and still in the works, they also have a bot like Pluralkit but the response times are MUCH faster and only you can see the slash commands!!!

Please please please check it out if you're interested!!!

Feel free to mention our page if u want when u verify!!!

Hope to see you all there!!!

[system-hottakes]

To add onto the (swirl emoji anon? idk what its called so sorry) about octocon:

Octocon CANNOT say they dont allow endos to use their app. It would put a massive fucking spotlight on them which could cause a mass report on both the bot and their app getting both of them taken down. They stated that they made the app cdd (or medical systems i forgot what its called) in mind and its directed towards us. If they were to say "FUCK ENDOS!!! WE HATE ENDOS DNI" do you think something will stop endos from mass reporting it? its happened with a fucking game (genshin impact at some point in time where people were blowing that shit up on the playstore) (this is all /nm /info btw im so sorry im really bad with tone and stuff im not mad at all)

so my hot take is:

Yeah, you can be mad about Octocon being endo neutral. It's definitely not the coolest considering we also heard that it's anti endo. But it's better than the app being taken down and not existing at all because pro/endos could decide to mass report it.

-@pigblde

!!!!

(also yeah I think it's called a swirl)

[the-masquerade-council]

Octocon: A Review and Comparison. (Website link)

I am writing this on the 14th of July 2024, which is just three days after the first public release of the app(on the 11th). So some of the things I bring up here may no longer be reinvent, when it is updated in the future. I've also only just started using it, so there may be stuff I'm unaware of.

I think the 2 biggest advantage of octocon is, first the fact that it functions as jake of all trades, and second the safety features. The app has a companion discord bot, as well as in app journaling. Making it so it has features of simplyplural, pluralkit, and lighthouse all in one. In terms of safety, in addition to options for a pin lock, there are also a quick exit option and a stealth mod option. With quick exit enabled you can double top any unoccupied spot on the app to immediately close the app. The stealth mode being enabled makes it so when the launches it appears as a news app(pictures on the right below), to access the real app just double tap the logo. Also the app having no reference to systemhood or plurality in the name makes it more convert.

I could see the app being directly connected to the discord bot as being very useful for systems that split alters often. I know from our experience we often don't really bother with setting up PK profiles for a lot of our system(and doing with tokens every time is also annoying), so having the app and bot linked is useful. The discord bot commands are also more private than PKs.

The app can be used for front and alter tracking, you can also set an alter as primary front if multiple alters are fronting. Also alters in the app are given an ID number which can be changed to organize them, rather it being alphabetical(one of our pet peeves with SP is the fact you can't make organization non alphabetical, I say a host whose name starts with V) The app also lets you make alter folders, which can be used for subsystems among other things. It also let you add friends so they can see who is fronting, much like simplyplural.

There are also several different color options for the app.

As for the journaling, there's both individual alter journals and a journal

Now moving on the things I like less about the app. As a reminder the app just come out and the app will likely be changed in the future.

There is no in app way to edit the info for the system as a whole, this is done via the bot on discord. On a related note system usernames must be between 5 and 16 characters long, which as you might notice is to short for our system name.

The is no dashboard, and no chatting or polls in app, though chatting could still be done on discord with bot. Also there's no browser version.

All alter info is on one tab I could see this getting very crowded. there's less custom field options(not date options for example) and no markdown support(meaning you can't add images and such to bios and the like). There is also currently not wat to achieve alters.

There is no non folder way to represent subsystems in the app, mean there is also no subsystem specific group journals. (Side note lighthouse is very good for keeping track of subsystems, if your system has multiple I recommend you give it a try)

The app's current front history keeping is rather bare bones.

Closing thoughts

For now we are going to continue predominately using simplyplural and pluralkit. Simplyplural for it's better information keeping, and pluralkit do to its prevalence. However I am very excited to see what octocon's future hold and can absolutely understand why some systems would prefer it over alternatives. I am also always glad to see new system resources being created!

[antiendovents]

If anyone’s looking for a PK/SP competitor that isn’t made by or for endos, Octocon just had its android release for its companion app!! And the discord bot is fully functioning and all slash commands. The autoproxy is a bit of a learning curve from pk but its a really good bot. You won’t be able to use it with certain emote servers who piss their pants over “discourse” but i think its a good trade off

Yeah ^^^

I did want to add to be careful though, the discord bot is heavily connected to the app and you need to go through the bot to import stuff and discord bots are not very good for privacy. It shouldn't be a big problem but for systems that are RAMCOA or just have really personal information on their sp you may want to be careful while importing! ((Just a notice as I saw this mentioned on a different post))