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i need pro/neu endo friends!!! hey!!! if you want to see AWESOME system & desirdae content from me LETS BE FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!
#actually desirdae#actually desirharmed#desirharmed#desirharmful#liom#mogai#system#plural#actually plural#pro endo#neu endo#plural gang#endo safe#mixed origin safe#actually traumagenic#traumagenic safe#<- this because ive seen people be WEIRD about traumagenic systems#ramcoa safe#<- this because SOME people are WEIRD AS FUCK about ramcoa systems! ive seen way too many people blacklist them from PRO ENDO SERVERS!!!#endo friendly#plural system#tagging for reach#seeking mutuals#seeking moots
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No actually it's against transitioning! Dissomei was created as a thing of "i feel like i should have this thing but bc i dont. it causes a dissconnect between my body and myself" while desirdae is meant as a "for whatever reason, i have an intense desire to be/do XYZ" and is specifically against transitioning when it comes to more harmful things such as desirharm/desirharmed/desirethnicity or anything like that. This has been said by the coiner of desirdae, is heavily pushed in every desirdae community, and not once have I seen transitioning being suggested by anyone so far. /info
I fully understand the worry, trust me. But as someone who does fit under things like desirharmed, but who is actively trying to heal and get better, having words to explain my experience and a community that lets me know I'm not alone while discouraging my wishes to act on these desires is immensly helpful. TransID's were awful bc they actively encourage people to transition in incredibly harmful ways, basically encouraging self harm, while desirdae is simply "I get it, you're not alone, don't do that."
tl;dr no they are NOT pro transitioning whatsoever and this has been said by the coiner themself, archivist blogs, coiners, and users alike p explicitly for the most part.
As an additional sidenote, because while im unsure you mean this its an impression im getting from many people against desirdae: I don't think I want to have to say "hey dont do something harmful" whenever I talk about stuff like this to describe my mental health? To me that just feeds into more issues like my mental health somehow making me inherently dangerous. So when I talk casually about my desirdae experience, I don't want to have to clarify "im not in danger or a danger to others" everytime. On a coining post, yes of course, but the idea of having to constantly clarify my mental illness doesnt make me dangerous to myself or others sounds like actual hell tbh.
this is all /nm and /info, I hope it helps :3
desirdaes entire concept is being a transitioning counterpart to dissomei, yes? while also being antirq, yet we accept the labels of desirharm[ed/ful] , which kind of defeats the whole purpose, it's become transIDs reskinned, and frankly i feel like this is reflecting the anti community overall, i feel like the communities just reskinned it and used the " but were not pro-xyz" while the labels mean almost the same thing, with the only difference really being the name and a very thinly veiled "transition without harm" which after a certain point isn't possible, and yet we let and accept the ones like harmed/harmful thrive, when there is no way to transition to them with out harm. there is a point where the community recreated the transIDs. The way we've did it [in my opinion] is honestly worse, as it ignores itself, desirharm[ed/ful] are such contradictions, but are defended because of its prefix when its simply the same thing, there are many harmful labels we've created and we excuse it with the simple idea that it is different because we coined it.
#discourse tw#🗡️ :: reblog#long post#experience#i have a lot of feelings about desirdae bc having something to describe what i feel is so immensely helpful i dont think people understand-#like finding these terms and being like oh my god im not a horrible freak this is just a thing people with similar mental health issues#go through was actually so freeing for me#i literally texted my boyfriends like LOOK THERES A WORD FOR THIS HOLY SHIT IM NOT JUST FUCKED UP#so im kinda ride or die for this term now#if radqueers try and take it i WILL start fighting people#🦇 :: personal
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nichelink: a newly coined niche relationship/relationship dynamic that differs from social norms, but is consensual and aware of potential risks.
differ from the norm: this is flexible and vague on purpose. see the ‘examples’ section.
probably niche: niche, probably not many people will identify as this, it’s just now been invented and posted on tumblr dot com, but it’s still a valid want and identity label.
aware of potential risks: this is inspired by the kink phrase Risk-aware consensual kink or risk-accepted consensual kink (RACK), and it means that everyone in the relationship is silently nodding and acknowledging there might be risks. you don’t have to prove yourself to others on this, don’t feel expected to tell everyone your personal business on how you’re managing this risk, because it’s not their relationship…
consensual: this is inspired by the kink phrase Consensual non-consent. basically it means that everyone in the relationship agreed to have the relationship play out a certain way, and the relationship may play out (maybe in a sort of roleplay-like fashion) like it’s non consensual, but everyone in the relationship is both expecting this to happen and still has the ultimate say on if things need to 100% stop or if it’s time for them to leave the relationship.
newly coined: i want to make it clear that existing relationship dynamics shouldn’t be shoved into this label because that feels disrespectful to those existing words, so essentially this means that existing words for it didn’t 100% describe this dynamic, so you can’t just say xyz thing is actually this term. (however, if you find one of these describes something you've already been doing for years, it's perfectly fine to start identifying with this of course.)
examples:
relationship where one person is treated as if they are an object owned by the other/s in the relationship
relationship where one person is treated as if they are a deity, and the other/s in the relationship are their followers
relationship where one person is treated as if they are a pet owned by the other/s in the relationship
relationship where one person is treated as if they are a child adopted by the other/s in the relationship
relationship where one person is transforming the other/s in the relationship into something
labels under this umbrella have a Ratings System.
All-Ages: a label that is suitable for all ages.
16+: a label that would be best if it was only used by people 16 years or older (bodily). this doesn’t mean that it’s NSFW or something, but should be used when the term has something pretty intense or serious about it which probably shouldn’t be practiced with younger people. all terms under this umbrella that involve identity modification or training are inherently 16+.
18+: a label that is inherently not suitable for people under 18 years (bodily).
grammar:
nichelinking: the state of being in this kind of relationship with someone else. “we’re nichelinking,” “we might start nichelinking”
nichelink: 1) the specific terms themself. “i coined a nichelink,” “definition: an all-ages nichelink where you…” 2) the relationship itself. “our nichelink,” “his last nichelink”
nichelinker: someone who participates in nichelinking.
there is currently no word for having a nichelink-related crush on someone, suggestions welcome.
inspirations
neurowiry
relationship anarchy
roleplay
found family tropes
desirdae
dissomei
my own personal experience of becoming someone’s “dad” - i made a friend in high school who i came out as transgender too, and then as a joke based on how people in the undertale fandom called toriel “mom,” we began referring to me as my friend’s “dad.” this joke stuck and then started genuinely being a serious part of our friendship. reflecting on this made me realize that there’s actually lots of relationships in life that’re similar, where you refer to each other as something unusual and it feels like it changes the entire status of your friendship. i liked the idea of making a word someone can use for this kind of friendship/relationship if they wanted.
i did a lot of writing about what this term means and can be used for and it ended up being long so you can read it on this page. (updated 1/10) here are some of the faq questions (but not all, so please read that page):
is this a k*nk thing?
no, it’s not intended to be. there are plenty of nichelink terms usable by anyone at any age. however if you’re an adult and you find a term appealing and start to use it because of k*nk things, more power to you, go right ahead.
is this anti r*dqueer?
i don’t find it makes sense to say that something that isn’t a stance term/blankqueer term is anti this or pro that. but this term was inspired by r*dqueer “consensual abuse” relationships, and i did start working on this because i saw that there were a lot of people who craved a specific relationship dynamic or way of being treated who felt like they couldn’t get that outside of the r*dqueer community, so i wanted to make a risk-aware and safer alternative that is not attached to a harmful community known for abuse, transphobia, racism, etc.
if you crave being treated a certain way, yes even in a “harmed” way, this term is welcome to you.
can i coin my own?
not yet. i’m still working out the kinks (🥁✨) on definitions and guidelines. i also have a big list of terms i’d like to coin for it. you can send me a request at least.
can i post this term on…
wiki/term definition sites: yes, and you don't have to ask, but i would like to be informed.
pinterest/other social medias: no, never, i'm not comfortable with someone else posting my term for me.
tags: @antiradqueerguy | @radiomogai | @the-silent-fellowship | @harmlesspersonalidentityarchive | @beyond-mogai-pride-flags | @desirdae-archive | @dissodic-archive | @kiruliom | @anti-rq-gumi | @antiradqueerguy | @neopronouns // ask to be untagged
general flag for all All-Ages nichelinks:
general flag for all 16+ rated nichelinks:
#qai#liom#liomogai#liom term#liom safe#liom coining#mogai coining#atypical dysphoria#plural term#desirdae#alteraffectis#alterous attraction#anti radshit#anti radqueer#identiora#relationships#identity#nichelinks#my flags.#my coinings.#recovering radqueer#ex radqueer
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⌖ What Is Non-Harmful Transitioning?
[PT :: What is non-harmful transitioning?]
As the term Desirdae has become more popular, a thing I have noticed is people not understanding what "non-harmful transitioning" means. Which is quite fair! It's a very, very vague term that can be used in a multitude of ways. So, in order to curb this slightly, I feel it necessary to elaborate on what, to me at least, non-harmful transitioning entails. If the original coiner, @ghosting-plural-userboxes or @desirdae-archive would like to add anything I would love that! Ty for making this term btw, it's been genuinely so helpful <3
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⌖ What is harmful transitioning?
[PT :: What is harmful transitioning]
I think in order to get into what non-harmful transitioning is, we should first get into what qualifies as harmful transitioning. So, to me, harmful transitioning is as follows ::
Transitioning by using methods of self harm, such as cutting, burning, bleaching ones skin, etc.
Transitioning by harming others, whether physically, emotionally, or spiritually // metaphysically.
Transitioning by putting yourself in traumatic situations, such as putting oneself in a situation to be groomed, assaulted, physically or emotionally harmed, etc.
Transitioning to have a disorder // disability one does not have, such as harming oneself in order to acquire a physical disability or enacting stereotypical behaviors to "act" as if they have a certain mental illness or disability.
Transitioning in a way that harms minorities of all kinds. Such as using blackface, yellowface, asianfishing, etc in order to "transition" towards different POC identities.
Transitioning to hateful and bigoted ideologiess that harm others.
Simply put, transitioning in a way that actively harms yourself or others is harmful transitioning.
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⌖ So, what is non-harmful transitioning?
[PT :: So, what is non-harmful transitioning?]
Having gotten some basics of what counts as harmful transitioning out of the way, let's get onto examples of non-harmful transitioning!
Dyeing ones hair as a form of transition.
Partaking in more foods of a specific culture in order to feel more comfortable, while acknowledging one is not part of that culture (this enters a grey area with headmates, as not everything is black and white)
Accepting ones disabled traits, that they already have, and learning that no matter how they experience it, it is enough.
Learning more about cultures in order to feel more comfortable with yourself, while still acknowledging you are not a part of that culture. (Again, gets muddy when it comes to headmates)
Getting piercings, body modifications, etc done by professionals as a form of transition.
Starting HRT or other forms of medical transitioning.
Getting cosmetic surgeries (nothing that would change the appearance of your own race, of course) done by professionals as a form of transition.
And likely many other ways to do it that aren't harmful! There are really, truly, so many ways to go about this that aren't harmful I promise you. I can think of an infinite number of ways to do this stuff non-harmfully.
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⌖ What makes Desirdae different from TransID?
[PT :: What makes Desirdae different from TransID?]
Simply the means of which one may transition. Desirdae is firmly anti-harmful transitioning for any reason while TransID is pro all forms of transition, harmful or not. You can see this in terms like transnazi, transrace, transplural, and many transharmful identities that it is often encouraged to transition into these things, despite the harm such things do. Desirdae, on the other hand, actively discourages harmful transitioning. So while things like Desirharmful, Desirskintone, etc do exist it is actively said by the creators that one should not harmfully transition into these terms. I will say, many do not make it clear that for some terms there is no way to non-harmfully transition*. But I chock this up to people being, rightfully, tired of constantly having to explain their experience with this term isn't inherently harmful. But it is still an issue I believe should be fixed when possible. * [PT :: there is no way to non-harmfully transition]
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I understand the worries many have towards Desirdae. We do not want just another TransID clone to take over and create yet another space full of radqueers who push for things like legalization of non-consensual relationships or what have you. That is a fair worry to have, and it was a worry I initially had as well. But in exploring these terms and the community that they have fostered, I have found that this is quite the opposite. It is a community based purely on consent, recovery, and a safe space for people to speak on their issues where as radqueer and transID often push anti-recovery and anti-consent rhetoric. This is the key difference between these two terms, I believe. One feeds into harmful behaviors and seemingly pushes people to the worst versions of themselves while the other is more of a "hey, I understand these feelings, I feel this way too, it's not OK but we can recover together."
If I missed anything, am incorrect about something, or if one has questions I myself am more than happy to answer. While this is not a term and community I created, it is one I am happy to be a part of and want to grow into something helpful.
Thank you for reading, I hope you all have a lovely day. Remember to be kind, anger towards fellow mentally ill queers does nothing but push the agenda of the oppressors <3
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archive of archives/helpful blogs i found
general/all mogai:
@archive-of-ire terms about anger, rage and spite
@archive-of-music musicagender & songic/songgender
@faunagender mogai terms related to animals
@floragender terms related to flora
@toygenders terms related to toys
@horrormogai horror-based labels
@pride-color-schemes flag maker, posted compilations of all flags for many terms which include alt text for each flag
https://www.tumblr.com/beyond-mogai-pride-flags they DO have like a bajillion reblogs of useful things but also frequently let racist/ableist terms fall through the cracks so browse at your own risk
@gender-jargon coins lots of mogai things and reblogs some terms
@neopronouns coiner and reblogger of a lot of stuff coins lots of things and reblogs mogai/liom
@radiomogai archives tons of things, mostly mogai
@io-archival unarchived terms, deleted posts and deactivated blogs
@mogai-transcriber transcribes/writes plain text for tons of things
@accessmogai transcribes/writes image descriptions/writes plain text
https://coinfight.tumblr.com/ archive of terms coined during coinfight
genders:
@fem-mogai feminine and female genders
@recordshop-archive genders related to songs, artists, and albums
@bitchgenders-archive -bitchgenders
@inviane-archive
@musicamogai
@catgender-archiver
@thing-genders-archive
orientation/attraction:
@orientation-archive.
@tertiary-attraction-archive
alteraffectis:
@alteraffectis
ficto:
@fictoflags
objectum/conceptum/objectix:
@object-concept-archive
presentation:
@presentationflag-archive
pronouns:
@pronoun-arc
@everypronoun
relationships:
@x4xarchive x4x (like t4t) terms
intersex:
@interarchive intersex related terms
@intersexflags aesthetic intersex flags
reclaimed slurs:
f-ggot: @faggyflags
after dark:
after dark = not safe for minors. be logical and don't interact with blogs dedicated to this if a minor
@mogaigonewild
other:
@flageditsarchive.tumblr.com/ aesthetic and colorpicked flags
@aestheticprideflagarchive aesthetic, combo, colorpicked, misc flags (inactive)
@harmlesspersonalidentityarchive thas me :3 various ids, especially focused on things like transspecies, dissomei, desirdae etc
@mogai-icon-archive pride icons
@conformant-archive conforming, like cis and straight, and variants of that
@cisqueer-archive identities involving cisness with queerness
neurodivergence:
general neurodivergence:
@mad-pride
neurogenders:
@neurogenderarchive
identiora/"other"
kin/therian/hearted:
@alterhumanflags
age:
age regression:
https://a-agere-archive.tumblr.com/
chronosian:
@chronosian-archive (inactive)
dissomei:
@dissodic-archive
desirdae:
@desirdae-archive
emsoul:
@emsoul-archive
intusui:
@intusui
species:
@specieschive
other/misc identiora:
@archive-of-form "Archive for terms related to having and/or desiring certain body traits. Includes aldernic, dissodic, transbody, desirdae, altersex, and misceverse terms."
@aspectsofidentity
plurality:
all purpose plurality:
@plurality-faq
https://www.tumblr.com/plural-labels (inactive)
misc/other:
ficto-religions:
@ficto-religious-archive
general purpose misc/other:
https://everythingarchive.tumblr.com/
unsure how to categorize:
https://www.tumblr.com/gamercod old archive for one system's coinings
https://www.tumblr.com/daylightrecords/ old archive for one user's coining
https://www.tumblr.com/notcishetarchive everything not cishet. idk how to warn for... whatever happened there
https://www.tumblr.com/yanderessarchive
@rentrypixelpridearchive pride flag pixels for rentry
@other-pride-archive
neoagab:
@neoagab
dances
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Alterpathy: The practice of identifying, categorizing, and identifying with fictional and imagined illnesses due to a disconnect between your external and internal understanding of yourself - while also not intending to appropriate, romanticize, or cause harm to a minority group.
this is going to be a really long post because i want to cover all the basics. future coinings will not be nearly as long.
identifying, categorizing, and identifying with: making flags, coining terms, and posting about your experience. alterpathic conditions can also be divided into a couple of categories, which are detailed later in the post.
disconnect between your external and internal understanding of yourself: for some reason, even though you're aware that this isn't how conditions that affect the body work, you experience a reoccurring condition that is serious to you. this can be because of atypical dysphoria, delusions, alternate beliefs, delusions, or anything else similar.
appropriation, romanticism, causing harm: this doesn't mean that actions you take are automatically excused of harm, but it's a silent agreement and nodding between yourself and others that you're not trying to come from a place of ableism/bigotry.
ignoring/excusing bigotry: examples of ignoring/excusing bigotry would be implying that someone can "coin" a real mental illness/other condition in the same way you can coin a gender, implying you can "transition" into a congenital condition with subliminal videos or otherwise, and anything else that goes against science's understanding of illness and neurodivergence. there's nuance to this, of course, because the psychology field isn't an absolutely perfect field that can do no wrong - it's up to the person coining/the person identifying to look at the situation and act accordingly.
examples of situations that might bring you to identify this way:
being a fictive/kin/introject/etc of a character who had a disease or type of injury that was invented for their media, like zombie diseases, cyberbrain cclerosis, the cutie pox, hanahaki disease, etc, and feeling affected by it in any way
experiencing something in your system's headspace that's like a reoccurring illness
having limbs like wings, tails, horns, etc in your headspace with some kind of damage to them that causes you phantom discomfort
feeling anxiety/frustration because you're experiencing something on a metaphysical level which you know your physical body isn't experiencing, but it's still very serious to you and possibly even hurting your quality of life
grammar:
alterpathy: 1) the practice of naming/making flags/categorizing these, "here's my mogai blog and here's my alterpathy blog"; 2) this kind of condition. "my depression and my alterpathy make it hard for me," "i might have an alterpathy but i'm not sure"
alterpathic: descriptor that describes these conditions. "it's alterpathic," "how to cope with alterpathic..."
inspiration and some context on why we're coining this
this was largely inspired by the r*dqueer term of x*nomalady, because after the system looked into it, we did see a lot of cases of people who were genuinely experiencing something serious, but didn't seem to think that there was any space other than the rqc that would be accepting of someone identifying with a disease that technically didn't exist. these cases were mixed in with genuinely ableist people who displayed the behaviors i listed above in "ignoring/excusing bigotry," which feels wrong to me, and i think that people who aren't intending to harm anyone deserve their own terminology and space.
crossover
there is some crossover with dissodic, desirdae, intusui, ethix +etc good faith terms related to feeling like you have, internally have, desire, or identify with something you technically don't, and i think that's fine. you can identify with an alterpathic term and the equivalent of it in another term umbrella, that's fine. do whatever fits best to describe your experiences.
so, is this just x*nomalady but Good?
not exactly, i don't want this to be thought of as a 1-to-1 anti rq equivalent, because again, some x*nomalady people are just coining """disorders""" for fun because they think you can do that in the same way you would a gender. this is both an identity/experience, and a silent agreement to be critical of what you're putting out into the world. this is also not focused on "coining" new conditions unless that's really necessary. (not necessary = making up a new illness for funsies. necessary = putting a name to a reoccuring condition you've been experiencing in headspace, etc.)
in the same way that terms like dissomei and intusui aren't 1-to-1 tr*nsid but Good and are separate term umbrellas that have their own nuances and notes, this is a good-faith alternative for people genuinely experiencing this kind of thing.
can i coin my own?
yes, this is open to everyone to coin! though, i will be posting a couple of flags for some alterpathic things in a couple of days, so you might want to wait until those come out so you can see how i format the post.
TDLR: considering yourself to have a condition that's not possible in reality because of some internal identity, but not in a fashion where you ignore/excuse bigotry.
can i post this term on…
wiki/term definition sites: yes, and you don't have to ask, but i would like to be informed.
pinterest/other social medias: no, never, i'm not comfortable with someone else posting my term for me.
subtypes:
when a different self began working on this, he set out two subtypes of alterpathic condition. unlike something like the age ratings in nichelink, these are absolutely optional, and you don't have to include these in your term definition if you don't want to/don't find it useful. but i think that if you're like me and like lots of details, these could be appealing, so i will include what he wrote:
Fiction-based. This is aimed at conditions that are established some way in a work of fiction/media, such as:Hanahaki Disease Slender Sickness Radiation Sickness (as seen in the Fallout series, not the IRL version) Environment-Based. Specific conditions that you can recognize are happening because of things already in your environment, like trauma, alterhuman labels, existing neurodivergent symptoms and so on. As an example, I'll mention the specific thing one of the alters in my system has that inspired me to make this subtype. He is a fictive of an angel character, but from my perspective it is vary obvious that his wings don't work and cause him muscle cramps in our headspace as a metaphor for an injury we had when were a child that gave us severe muscle cramps and required extremely painful and traumatizing physical therapy. That's something that was in our environment, so I'd call it environment-based. Subtypes are an optional category though, and you might not be able to decide/understand if yours fits into one or both, and that's fine. Also, I acknowledge that just two subtypes might not be enough to cover all the bases, and also there are probably tons of conditions that fall into both or inbetween, and that's fine. I want to "cross that bridge as we come to it", and let people who identify with this tell me their thoughts about what other words need to be coined.
flag inspiration rambles
this flag went through a lot of design phases. it was originally much more inspired by the general disability flag, because we imagined that most of the appeal would be to people who are actually disabled (mentally ill people, etc). the final flag became more inspired by existing terms for people who experience a disconnect between themself and their conditions. i saw many examples of shades of purple and pink, scalloped stripes/rounded shapes, and specifically these flags were the biggest inspirations:
dissocogni and dissophysi by @/acetrappolaswife (deactivated)
desirsick/desirill by @shrubmogai
other stuff
tags: @antiradqueerguy | @radiomogai | @archive-of-form | @everythingarchive | @mad-pride maybe? | @plurality-faq | @anti-rq-gumi | @doomsd8ydevice // ask to be untagged
"would (thing) fit this?" ask, there's tons of room for discussion and nuance.
this post was written mostly by nichie.
flag template:
hanahaki disease example:
nonfunctional angel wings example:
#alterpathy#alterpathic#alterpathic condition#body integrity dysphoria#identiora#atypical dysphoria#atypical euphoria#plurality#plural system#plural community#plural stuff#plural term#headspace#ex radqueer#BIID#delusions#alternate beliefs#my coinings.#my flags.
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DRAGONQUEER/DRAGONPUNK
Emojicode : 🐲🌈🔥/ 🐉🌈🔥
LINK TO THE OFFICIAL DRAGONQUEER/DRAGONPUNK CARRD
A new label! Dragonqueer/dragonpunk (either name works, same thing!) is a queer stance about not being afraid to show how prideful you are about yourself, not being afraid to show yourself, or at least have a desire to want to express how you TRULY are and give the bird to the societal norm standards and those that hate you, existing to spite them; dragonqueer/dragonpunk beings can still live in caves (be closeted) too, however. A major aspect to dragonqueer/dragonpunk is also hoarding a shit ton of labels that describe yourself! Dragons love their hoards :)
Due to history of dragons, they are seen as either evil and terrifying or benevolent and kind. Dragonqueer/dragonpunk aims to be both; be punk, be scary, be yourself, be unforgiving for who you are while also being a kind-hearted and loving being. There are dragons of all kind; western, easter, wyverns, wyrms, hydras, and so there is too in queer communities. Whichever kind of dragon you are is completely up to you, and you alone; you decide who you are.
Dragonqueer/dragonpunk supports/believes…
LGBTQ+, MOGAI, LIOM, etc.
Xenogenders, neopronouns, etc.
Neoagabs/xenoagabs
Good-faith labels
Systems of all origins
Arissomei, desirdae, chronosians, aldernic, aldersex, allions, vesil, vior, xenonatured, eiment, etc.
Otherkin, therians, non-humans, alterhumans, etc.
Neurodivergent, mentally ill, disabled beings
Beings with munchausen's syndrome, factitious disorders, etc.
Hypersexuals
Gender hoarders / gender collectors
Multigender / polygender / etc.
Safe and anti-contact paraphiles (not acting on illegal shit??? This should make sense.. If its harmful. Dont act on it.)
Microlabels
Atypical dysphoria
PLUR
M-spec lesboys, turigirls, etc.
Contradictory labels
Systemarchy
Pluralpunk/systempunk
Furries
Age/pet regressors
MAD pride
Reclaiming labels you can reclaim (queer, dyke, fag, freak, etc.)
Anti-psychiatry
Being endogenic/willogenic is not the same thing as being “transplural”
Educated self-diagnosis
Fiction affects reality
You can be trans without dysphoria
You can be a system without trauma
OC x canon is epic as long as its legal
Objectum and robosexuals
Supporting ex-cops, ex-gov, ex-military, ex-radqueers, ex-transids, etc. that have left their community and wish to recover
Abortion rights, womens rights, animal rights, etc.
Atheism
Kink at pride (when there are no bodily minors)
BDSM (as long as everyone consents and there are no bodily minors)
recovering/ex-religious beings
Consentual recovery for those that want it
Supporting victims
Dragonqueer/dragonpunk does NOT support/believe...
Harmful and pro-contact / neu-contact zoophiles, pedophiles, necrophiles, etc. (yet again if its harmful dont fucking do it)
Minors in nsfw communities, minors in kink, or having public kink where minors are around
That “all men should die” or “all women should die”
Harassing innocent cishets
Active radqueers and transids/transx
Terf, radfem, transmed, sysmed, etc. views
Harmful religion
Demonizing or stigmatizing disorders
Singlets in syscourse
“Superstraight”
Heavy political views, such as conservative and liberal
Proshippers, comshippers, darkshippers, etc. (how hard is it to say no illegal, abusive, etc. ships holy shit)
Lolicons and shotas
Racism or prejudice of ANY kind
Ableism
Forced recovery
Mental asylums
Exclusionists
Bigots
Dragonqueer/dragonpunk is neutral on...
Religion in general (dragonqueer/dragonpunk is inherently atheist)
catqueer
THIS IS THE OFFICIAL DRAGONQUEER/DRAGONPUNK. PEOPLE THAT WANT TO "RECLAIM" THIS LABEL WILL BE FACED WITH FIRE !!!
@ghosting-plural-userboxes thought you'd wanna see this, just comment if you want us to remove your tag from this post ^-^
#mogai#xenogender#corporatecoinings#xenogenders#xenogender blog#xenogender safe#queer stance#queer#queer community#blankqueer coining#< hope thats not a rq tag#< someone tell me if it is or not#dragonqueer#dragonpunk#liom#liom term#liomogai#mogai label#mogai community#lgbtq#lgbtqia#lgbtq community#🐲🌈🔥#🐉🌈🔥#dragonqueer🐲🌈🔥#dragonpunk🐲🌈🔥#dragonqueer🐉🌈🔥#dragonpunk🐉🌈🔥
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Could you please make a term desirdae about want/wish yearn being able to understand/speak all languages?
Ty.
𐔌𐔌 desirpanlingual .ᐟ
𐔌 . 𓎟 a desirdae term for one who wants/yearns/desires to speak/understand all languages ᐟ。୧ ꒱
#flag coining#mogai coining#mogai flag#xeno flag#mogaiblr#desirdae term#desirdae community#desirdae#mogai community#mogai blog#mogai label#mogai term#pro mogai#mogai gender#mogai friendly#mogai#mogai safe
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"I am all deities in one. You may endeavor your best for thousands of years and have all mankind with you in your search. But you cannot understand Our Reality."
Quote stolen from a random quote website
(pt: I am all deities in one. You may endeavor your best for thousands of years and have all mankind with you in your search. But you cannot understand Our Reality. End pt)
Welcome, be not afraid.
(pt: Welcome, be not afraid.)
We are the Gods and Goddesses and Deities of the pro endo court, we accept offerings in the form of Pokémon cards and food. (We'll try not to play into the religion joke too much as to not be disrespectful or trigger anyone! ^^)
Other accounts we run: @edible-emerald - Main account @xenomayhem - Xenogender (and other terms) coining account (we also do stimboards and nputs) We also have a lot more, feel free to ask :D
Not going to talk much about the mods or the system running it, but we're mixed origins, esogenic, and hexabyssgenic. We're also a median slash parasian and the terms we use for ourselves usually change around. We're also a plurallet but the label is semi-temporary. Our headcount is at around 17 including fragments but expect it to grow!!
What will this account be for? Well, we've wanted to make one for a while but this will be a Build A Headmate blog (or a BAH blog)! What is that, you may ask? Well, often for many systems (such as ourselves) sometimes we split fragments who don't have a full identity yet and need one to 'latch onto' to fully form! It can also be used by willogenic systems and really just anyone who wants to :) ANTI RADQUEER!!
We haven't made a source list yet, just ask and we'll tell you if we know it :) We know a lot of indie animations, and minecraft SMPs, if that helps! (Source list will come out eventually I promise)
BAH template, tagging system, banned sources, and other court members under the cut!
To ask for a BAH request, send in an ask asking for a basic, medium, or detailed pack! Be as specific as you want, or as vague as you want. Your decision! Keep in mind the less detailed you are the longer it will take. If you want anything removed, please let us know!
You are
Here's what's in each pack:
Basic pack:
Name
Pronouns
Gender
Sexuality/orientation
Species
Source (if applicable)
Role
Age
Short description of appearance
-- From here, everything added on will not be in the basic pack, but will be in the medium pack.
(pt: From here, everything added on will not be in the basic pack, but will be in the medium pack. end pt)
Personality
Likes
Dislikes
Identities (alterhuman identities, dissomeis, desirdaes, occudens, etc. lmk if there's something specific you want me to add !)
Hobbies
Favorite things (color, music artist, animal, whatever I can think of usually goes here,, lmk if you want something specific !!)
Faceclaim/Picrew/art (art would be made by us and usually would have to be requested)
-- From here, everything added on will not be in the basic or medium pack, but will be in the detailed pack.
(pt: From here, everything added on will not be in the basic or medium pack, but will be in the detailed pack. end pt)
Pos front triggers
Neg front triggers
Typing quirk
Signoff
How they do/complete their role (ex: how would this caregiver headmate do their role?)
Aesthetic(s)
Stance on source (connection to it, source talk stance, memories, etc)
Anything else you'd like us to add!
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Tagging system:
#pro endo court - Most things
#deity speaks - Most posts
#reblog - reblogs
#bah/#build a headmate/#bah blog/etc. - BAH requests & BAH related stuff
#syscourse - syscourse posts and reblogs, we won't actively argue with people on this account, but may talk about it occasionally.
#deity syscourse - this is another syscourse tag, but this one is here for easier tag filtering if you don't want to block all syscourse posts.
#off topic - not plurality related, just rambling
#roleplaying - roleplay posts
#deity lore - roleplaying OR general character lore
#pro endo court lore/#court lore - lore of us/other blogs
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Banned sources are the sources we won't do. Blacklist means there is no exceptions, greylist means there will be some exceptions (ex; if requested by a friend, etc.) if something is greylist you can send in a request but don't expect it to be done. Some of these have specific reasons but some are just because the source annoys us lol
This will be updated as we remember things
Blacklist: - Class of '09 - Problematic factives - Most 18+ sources in general tbh - The Magnus Archives - Non-celebrity real people (ex: friends, family members, etc. we don't know them) - Undertale AUs
Greylist: - Hellaverse (hh/hb) - Dandy's World - Gartan (??? is that how its spelled) of Banban - Poppy's playtime - Problematic creator's characters (ex: problematic mcyt fictives, songtives from problematic artists, etc) - Songtives (don't be afraid to request these, we're just not likely to be bothered to do it unless we know the song because we're not too confident in our ability to do them. But again feel free to !!) - My Hero Academia - OCtives
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The court:
@princessofendos
@kingofproendos
@jesterofproendos
@dragonofendos
@baroness-of-endos
@dukeofproendos
@seroftheproendos
@knightofproendos
@prince-of-pro-endos
@lady-of-endos
@angel-of-pro-endos
@doctor-of-proendos
@scientistofproendos
@outlander-of-endos
@guarddog-of-proendos
@civilianofproendos
@marquessofendos
@the-star-of-pro-endos
@goblinofproendos
@bardofproendos
@catofproendos
@the-archer-of-pro-endos
@themimicofproendos
Send me an ask if i missed you and you want to be added!
#pro endo court#endogenic system#pluralpunk#actually plural#endo safe#build a headmate#build an alter#bah pack#bah blog#bah#build a alter#build a system#headmate creation#alter creation#headmate pack#alter packs#anti radqueer#anti rq#anti transid
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InakshaTruth
(pt: inakshatruth. end pt)
(id: a 7-striped flag. the top and bottom stripes are grey and the thinnest, the second and sixth stripes are a slightly lighter grey and the thickest, the third and fifth stripes are light grey and the same width as the fourth stripe (double the width of the first and last stripes). the middle stripe is a pixelated pastel rainbow at an angle. end id)
an umbrella term for identities such as transID (including transgender), dissomei, aldernic, intusui, desirdae, chronosian, and anything similar
could also be used as a prefix for when you don't want to specify what microlabel your ID is under (for example, inakshagreeneyes could be a term by itself, transgreeneyes, dissogreeneyes, desirgreeneyes, or anything of the sort)
the first part of the word is taken from a Ukrainian (my native language) word meaning "other" // i used the feminine form of the word because the Ukrainian word for truth is a feminine word but you can change the -a for -iy (masc), -e (neu (typically only used for objects)), or -i (multiple) if it makes you feel more comfortable (for example, inakshipolyfragmented)
you can use it regardless of stance // even if i don't agree with you it's ok to use /gen // you don't have to use it if you don't want to though
the few things i ask you to avoid doing are "reclaiming" it (you can use it (yes even you)) and making fun of the name (i love my native language and if you say anything bad about it i'll be very upset)
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Desirdae Symbol ( PSD template + SVG file )
Made for part of my Desirdae flag PSD template, the Desirdae symbol made into a PSD template of it's own + a SVG file so it can be exported at any size without loss of image quality! You can download both from the link in the post source ( down at the very bottom of the post. )
I do NOT recommend using the preview image above for editing, it's been compressed !!
The .PSD template has each outline and color on it's own layer for ease of editing + coloring + layer effect application. ( I would recommend downloading and editing that instead of the preview image here. )
The .SVG is the plain black symbol. The universe symbol in the middle was made by jojooid on Flaticon, the attribution link can be also be found at the post source since tumblr doesn't like SVGur external links...
( Like the term itself and my direct interaction criteria, I do not support / am against RQs + harmful transition and will block any direct interactions with my account related to either. I will not argue about this with you. )
Taglist - @radiomogai, @daybreakthing, @desirdae-archive
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Hi so for Desirdae terms would you do one for psychosis in general? Like we have mild psychosis due to being bipolar but we've had our experiences trivialized or told straight up that we're lying or faking since bipolar doesn't automatically come with psychosis symptoms.
If not can you do one for bipolar disorder? Tbh all our symptoms have been trivialized in some way or another, though we would rather not get into too many specifics on that front.
Thanks regardless!
- @razorbacksys
Desirpsychosis: a desirdae term for those who desire/yearn/want psychosis. some examples of why are your psychosis being trivialized by others, atypical dysphoria, being shamed all your life and struggling to be open about it, struggling to recognize when your experiencing psychosis etc.
this term is pro transitioning for those who DO have psychosis! an example of transitioning would be starting to be open to close friends about your psychosis, or starting to ignore others trivialization. this term does NOT support the transitioning for those who don't have psychosis.
THIS TERM IS STRICTLY ANTI RADQUEER
tags: @desirdae-archive @sharksnwaves @dreaming-of-mogai
#desirdae#mogai coining#mogai#anti rq#anti radqueer#dissomei#dissodic#mogai flag#mogai term#liomogai#liom coining#liom term#liom#coining post#flag coining#term coining#cottonfilledmouth
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Desirdae Communication
Please talk about your experiences. Please talk about them in the tags.
If you feel scared to, make a sideblog and post it on there.
This deserves to be more than a coin fest with no one talking about their identities.
Talk about it in a reblog of this post, even! Look, I'll go first!
I have schizoid personality disorder and susptected NPD with mild histrionic leanings. If that sounds like a contradictory mess it is. It makes me appear "normal" to outsiders. I still have few interests of my own and I have no desire to have them. I take scraps and leavings of interests from the few I ever get close to. But i WANT interests. I want specific hobbies and likes but I cant be assed to have them. Moreover, of course, I want ATTENTION for liking things like I see other people do. This is the main driving behind my hipster/manic pixie/attention seeking identities.
And as always, @desirdaecultureis is still open taking asks. Please don't let this be just flags.
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I’m officially leaving the radqueer community.
I joined a transid server for advice on transitioning. And I saw one person talking about trying to smoke a lot in hopes that they get cancer.
It felt like a gut punch. Call me a hypocrite all you want. I’ve turned a blind eye to much worse transition goals. Murder. Human trafficking. RAMCOA trauma. But those things were always (I know this sounds horribly offensive to the victims, I’m so sorry) abstract concepts. I knew they happened somewhere. To some people. But they were never real.
Not so with cancer. My grandfather got addicted to cigarettes at age 15. He got lung cancer. The first time he was in the hospital was before I was born. They told me he was in remission. But it came back and put him in the hospital again. He lived. But you could see the difference in him. Then when COVID-19 hit, he couldn’t go anywhere. Because his lungs were already vulnerable. And he was, all the while, still smoking the fucking cigarettes! Knowing what they had done to him, what they were still doing to him! Because the addiction was too strong.
Radqueers would say that attempting to give yourself lung cancer is included in “radical bodily autonomy”. And I know this makes me sound like a terrible person, but if that’s what radical bodily autonomy is I don’t want it! Staying in that community would be a betrayal of everyone who I’ve ever worked alongside at American Cancer Society fundraisers.
I don’t know where I’m going to go from here. But I might follow your blog. If you could recommend any other blogs, that would be really nice, thank you.
You brought up a really good point about finally seeing the harm in that mentality when it affected someone close to you. That's a completely understandable experience to have. It goes to show that when radqueers talk about pursuing various types of self harm lightly, it does end up insulting those that deal with those struggles that didn't ask for them. And that's something that people can learn to understand even if they don't have personal experience with the subject. That's why it's important to listen to communities you don't belong to.
I'm sorry you had to experience so much insensitivity to those serious topics. I wish you well on leaving the radqueer community. You're welcome to follow me if you'd like. /gen
Other anti radqueer blogs I'd recommend are @/antiradqueerguy, @/anti-hony, @/report-rqs, @/anti-savent and @/antirq-yahiko. I frequently reblog from all of them. @/recovering-radqueers and @/recoverymatters222 are both dedicated to helping people recover from their time in the radqueer community. If transid alternatives interest you I recommend looking into dissomei and desirdae, both of which are anti harmful transitioning.
#gumi's original posts#anon contribution#anti radqueer#former radqueer#neu transid#anti harmful transitioning#anti ableism#anti abuse
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Desirdutch A desirdae term for when one yearns / desires / wants to be Dutch , whether partially or mostly , it ' s up for the user to decide . Reasons may include : atypical dysphoria , alter who is Dutch , and / or having family who is Dutch .
Tips : Try to learn the language if you can ! As well as learning about the cultures , like the foods or traditions ! Bookstores sometimes might have these travel books / pamphlets , which you can look at recommended places in Sweden as well . Copy and pasted from my desirswedish post .
Coined by the final man . Tags : @radiomogai, @smilepilled, @desirdae-archive Requested by anon
Pt under cut, help with IDs appreciated !
[PT: Desirdutch A desirdae (link) term for when one yearns/desires/wants to be Dutch, whether partially or fully, it's up for the user to decide. Reasons may include: Atypical dysphoria, alter who is Dutch, and/or having family whos Dutch. Tips: Try to learn the language if you can! As well as learning about the culture there, like the foods or traditions! Bookstores sometimes might have travel books/pamphlets, which you can look at recommended places in Sweden as well. Copy and pasted from my desirswedish post.
Coined by the final man. Tags: radiomogai, smilepilled, desirdae-archive Requested by anon. / end PT]
#⚜️⠀.⠀⠀from the messenger.#desirdutch#desirdae#desirdae coining#desirdae community#liom#liom coining#mogai coining#mogai label#mogai term#liom term#liomogai#mogai#mogai flag#liom label
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Alterpathy: The practice of identifying, categorizing, and identifying with fictional and imagined illnesses due to a disconnect between your external and internal understanding of yourself - while also not intending to appropriate, romanticize, or cause harm to a minority group.
identifying, categorizing, and identifying with: making flags, coining terms, and posting about your experience. alterpathic conditions can also be divided into a couple of categories, which are detailed later in the post.
disconnect between your external and internal understanding of yourself: for some reason, even though you're aware that this isn't how conditions that affect the body work, you experience a reoccurring condition that is serious to you. this can be because of atypical dysphoria, delusions, alternate beliefs, delusions, or anything else similar.
appropriation, romanticism, causing harm: this doesn't mean that actions you take are automatically excused of harm, but it's a silent agreement and nodding between yourself and others that you're not trying to come from a place of ableism/bigotry.
ignoring/excusing bigotry: examples of ignoring/excusing bigotry would be implying that someone can "coin" a real mental illness/other condition in the same way you can coin a gender, implying you can "transition" into a congenital condition with subliminal videos or otherwise, and anything else that goes against science's understanding of illness and neurodivergence. there's nuance to this, of course, because the psychology field isn't an absolutely perfect field that can do no wrong. it's up to the person coining/the person identifying to look at the situation and act accordingly. this part is like a sort of disclaimer. someone using alterpathic terms is nodding and saying "yes, i know, i know, just let me talk about my experiences and have a space to feel accepted."
examples of situations that might bring you to identify this way:
being a fictive/kin/introject/etc of a character who had a disease or type of injury that was invented for their media, like zombie diseases, cyberbrain sclerosis, the cutie pox, hanahaki disease, etc, and feeling affected by it in any way
experiencing something in your system's headspace that's like a reoccurring illness
feeling like you are afflicted with a condition that's not known to affect human bodies, only animal ones, due to atypical dysphoria, delusions, alterhumanity, or any other situation
having limbs like wings, tails, horns, etc in your headspace with some kind of damage to them that causes you phantom discomfort
feeling anxiety/frustration because you're experiencing something on a metaphysical level which you know your physical body isn't experiencing, but it's still very serious to you and possibly even hurting your quality of life
grammar:
alterpathy: 1) the practice of naming/making flags/categorizing these, "here's my mogai blog and here's my alterpathy blog"; 2) this kind of condition. "my depression and my alterpathy make it hard for me," "i might have an alterpathy but i'm not sure"
alterpathic: descriptor that describes these conditions. "it's alterpathic," "how to cope with alterpathic..."
inspiration and some context on why we're coining this
this was largely inspired by the r*dqueer term of x*nomalady, because after the system looked into it, we did see a lot of cases of people who were genuinely experiencing something serious, but didn't seem to think that there was any space other than the rqc that would be accepting of someone identifying with a disease that technically didn't exist. these cases were mixed in with genuinely ableist people who displayed the behaviors i listed above in "ignoring/excusing bigotry," which feels wrong to me, and i think that people who aren't intending to harm anyone deserve their own terminology and space.
crossover
there is some crossover with dissodic, desirdae, intusui, ethix +etc good faith terms related to feeling like you have, internally have, desire, or identify with something you technically don't, and i think that's fine. you can identify with an alterpathic term and the equivalent of it in another term umbrella, that's fine. do whatever fits best to describe your experiences.
so, is this just x*nomalady but Good?
not exactly, i don't want this to be thought of as a 1-to-1 anti rq equivalent, because again, some x*nomalady people are just coining """disorders""" for fun because they think you can do that in the same way you would a gender. this is both an identity/experience, and a silent agreement to be critical of what you're putting out into the world. this is also not focused on "coining" new conditions unless that's really necessary. (not necessary = making up a new illness for funsies. necessary = putting a name to a reoccuring condition you've been experiencing in headspace, etc.)
in the same way that terms like dissomei and intusui aren't 1-to-1 r*dqueer terms but Good and are separate term umbrellas that have their own nuances and notes, this is a good-faith alternative for people genuinely experiencing this kind of thing.
can i coin my own?
yes, this is open to everyone to coin! here's the svg and here's a psd.
TDLR: considering yourself to have a condition that's not possible in reality because of some internal identity, but not in a fashion where you ignore/excuse bigotry.
can i post this term on…
wiki/term definition sites: yes, and you don't have to ask, but i would like to be informed. here's the hd flag
pinterest/other social medias: i previously said no but i guess it's ok if you link directly to the coining post. showing a clear link is the part that really matters to me so please do that.
subtypes:
when a different self began working on this, he set out two subtypes of alterpathic condition. unlike something like the age ratings in nichelink, these are absolutely optional, and you don't have to include these in your term definition if you don't want to/don't find it useful. but i think that if you're like me and like lots of details, these could be appealing, so i will include what he wrote:
Fiction-based. This is aimed at conditions that are established some way in a work of fiction/media, such as:Hanahaki Disease Slender Sickness Radiation Sickness (as seen in the Fallout series, not the IRL version) Environment-Based. Specific conditions that you can recognize are happening because of things already in your environment, like trauma, alterhuman labels, existing neurodivergent symptoms and so on. As an example, I'll mention the specific thing one of the alters in my system has that inspired me to make this subtype. He is a fictive of an angel character, but from my perspective it is vary obvious that his wings don't work and cause him muscle cramps in our headspace as a metaphor for an injury we had when were a child that gave us severe muscle cramps and required extremely painful and traumatizing physical therapy. That's something that was in our environment, so I'd call it environment-based. Subtypes are an optional category though, and you might not be able to decide/understand if yours fits into one or both, and that's fine. Also, I acknowledge that just two subtypes might not be enough to cover all the bases, and also there are probably tons of conditions that fall into both or inbetween, and that's fine. I want to "cross that bridge as we come to it", and let people who identify with this tell me their thoughts about what other words need to be coined.
flag inspiration rambles
this flag went through a lot of design phases. it was originally much more inspired by the general disability flag, because we imagined that most of the appeal would be to people who are actually disabled (mentally ill people, etc). the final flag became more inspired by existing terms for people who experience a disconnect between themself and their conditions. i saw many examples of shades of purple and pink, scalloped stripes/rounded shapes, and specifically these flags were the biggest inspirations:
dissocogni and dissophysi by @/acetrappolaswife (deactivated)
desirsick/desirill by @shrubmogai
other stuff
this is not a recoin, but an update to the original coining to specify further that real life conditions that affect animals but not human bodies are covered under this term.
tags: @antiradqueerguy | @radiomogai | @archive-of-form | @everythingarchive | @medicalmogai-archive | @plurality-faq | @anti-rq-gumi | @doomsd8ydevice | @naizouarimasuka | @melodicarias | @identity-system-archive | @disabilitypride // ask to be untagged
"would (thing) fit this?" ask, there's tons of room for discussion and nuance.
we really liked the idea of this term creating a community of beings who can come together to discuss what ails them and figure out how to relieve it. i welcome discord servers/communities and stuff like that.
this post was written mostly by nichie.
#plurality#plural things#atypical dysphoria#alterpathy#alterpathic#ethix#ex radqueer#species dysphoria#mental illness#dissomei#dissodic#desirdae#liom#liom coining#liom flag#liomogai#liom term#liom safe#hpi#anti radqueer#my coinings.#my flags.#nichelink
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