#the haters will stop us

[beezzaroll]

mcu loki au titled "the haters will stop me" fanfic intro post (alternative title: the haters will stop us)

ok for my own personal sake and for the au I'm writing loki was not tortured by thanos. he was under a bit of a high from the influence of the scepter (which I'm pretty sure was the mind stone? idk I'm not looking that up rn). That doesn't matter in the story I'm posting below but just wanted to get that out of the way.

The part where loki is asked if he kills people for fun? That's like the basis of this fic. Less of an "I can fix him" and more of a "let's be evil together/I can make him worse"

Ougggh they're both so evil I love them for each other.

First time writing genderfluid x genderfluid. I'm genderfluid myself so it should be good.

It has a mix of both SFW and NSFW that will be labeled when needed.

the fic takes place mostly in second person so that's what the "you" is addressing.

sometimes I make up words because they make sense for the story. if you're confused don't hesitate to ask :3

Anyways below the line is some of the story, non complete and not in timeline order at all

You'd heard about Agatha Harkness and her extreme disregard for the rules of witchcraft law. At first it was just in passing at a bar, a rumor you decided to keep an ear out for. But when it came forth that she walked the Road? You just had to know what she did that was so different from your peers.

Although you wouldn't call it stalking, that is most certainly what you had done for a hundred years or so, following her closely behind, keeping track of her methods in a tight red notebook.

Killing other witches started out as a taboo for you. A great misuse of the power a witch pours his heart into...but the power you saw her gain...

Eventually, from observing her enough yourself, you had formulated a spell that allowed you to sap the energy from living things: not their magic (you couldn't figure that part out) but some of their being. You tried it out for the first time on an old drunkard, not a regular, outside a tavern you'd seen Harkness pass by.

Of course you had to send a raven to loki. You always told each other of a new achievement or a spell you just found (both of you had learned witchcraft from your mothers, so it was a shared form of respect).

He decided to illuse himself as a black cat with striking green eyes (and of course you two argued about the cliche of a witch and a black cat later that night) but it was certainly more discreet than his normal human disguise.

He sat in the shadows as you strolled out of the tavern with the man. The two of you were talking about some nonsense like a pretty lady at the bar earlier. Nothing that mattered. You start to steer the conversation towards some odd topics: have you seen the royal guard around lately? Haven't those thieves escaped the gallows? There have been wives going missing...

You can observe his mannerisms visibly shift to those of fear, and that's when loki, as if on cue, scrambles across the cobbled road in front of the man, hightening his fear to an almost tangible amount. And you know you've got him. You snatch a peek at your open notebook in the swaths of your robe, not bothering to mutter the enchantment.

From the man's perspective, his worse fears are alive in front of him. He sees a mirror image of himself, adorned in gold and beautiful women, smiling down at him, mocking him as he sips freshly purified water from a silver encrusted goblet.

You could see the fear around him, really this time. Small strands of it poured out from his shaky breath and his equally shaking limbs and pool at your feet.

Knowing that you were hidden now that he was enchanted and the alleyway was dark, Loki unshifted and flashes you his grin before patting you on the shoulder. He later says he was just checking if the energy was transferring but you knew it was a touch of affection even if he denied it.

The drunk fell to his knees. He wasn't as flush as he was before, but certainly not as skeletal as Harkness's victims and definitely not dead. As you were pulling the last bits off the man, you do feel for his pulse. It's slow, but you'll think he'll make it til morning.

And hey, if he doesn't, you weren't the one to kill him. Not directly, at least, and that was all that mattered to you.

With one last glance, you headed back to the tavern, upstairs to the rented room in the inn, and flopped into a pleased slumber on the hay mattress.

[straydogofhv]

[elizabeth-mitchells]

in my opinion one of yellowjackets' worst crimes is how often they use the adult storyline as comic relief but like. while actively doing a disservice to the whole thing. i love the jokes! usually they're great jokes. but you have all these fantastic actresses that signed up to this cool drama show about grief and trauma etc etc and actually gave them these super interesting and fascinating characters. and it feels like more and more often or at least so far in s3 they're just there as the butt of the joke or a break from the teen timeline

[bellaciao-ciao-ciao]

Good morning to all the #neverkamala pro Palestine protest voters and the “influencers” who asked their followers to abstain from voting or vote Jill stein. Where is she btw?? Did she crawl back into her hole now that the election is over?

Anyway good luck and just know that those protest vote influencers who influenced you won’t be suffering. They’ll be sleeping perfectly fine. The victims will continue to be victims and those that actually did the right thing will now be forced to suffer as well because of short sighted ego. And those that protest voted will continue to deny any accountability and “oh it didn’t even make a difference guiseeee I swearrrr” stfu.

[optimisticcatastrophe]

The only real proof I needed that Mythal was just a narcissistic & emotionally immature mother was the fact that to gain her loyalty you have to prove your worth.

She’s ‘the protector’ but only if she thinks you have value?

Yup. Sounds about right.

She was no protector, she was a cult leader.

[rationales]

[yesterdayiwrote]

I'm going to level with you, some of you are VERY confused about the difference between "being a hater as a sports fan" and "wishing death or harm upon sports competitors you don't like". They're categorically NOT the same thing

[spookyboywhump]

It feels like every month I see more posts in the whump community trying to normalize using ChatGPT and I’m beating this shit back with a broom

[kleptozoology]

Yall are the Nazi's useful idiots. Block me.

I don't have mutuals because if I give any of you long enough you'll inevitably prove to be Jew Haters. I've blocked half this hellsite because you crypto-fascists masquerading as progressives can't read my pinned post BEGGING you to block me first. "Haha this person posts funny/informative posts. I'll follow them! ...Oh wait they mindlessly eat up nazi and terrorist propaganda like they're fistfuls of shredded cheese direct from the fridge at 2AM. Well nevermind then. Unfollow/blocked." Palestine will not be free or at peace with Israel destroyed and Hamas in control. Hamas has been murdering, raping, and torturing Palestinians for almost 2 decades. On top of that, so many of yall regurgitate nazi conspiracies and blood libel like you are vultures vomiting up worms to feed other mindless pawns of the Far Right. Leftists have been doing more legwork to promote the agenda of fascism than any Proud Boy or Neo-Nazi Gun Club has in years. Do I seem mad? I am mad. I'm mad that those I care about have to start making plans for when their home countries kick them out or hunt them down. For when YOU hunt them down. Not "if." WHEN. They know that they have nowhere to turn but Israel, the one place that has never turned them away. Every single country refused Jewish refugees during World War 2, during to pogroms, during the purges. Every single one. With one exception. Israel. That's why Israel must survive. Because without Israel, the Jewish people may not. They are a remarkably tenacious people, survived everything the world has ever thrown at them. The Romans, the Nazis, the Soviets, everything. But I don't want my loved ones to be in survival mode for every subsequent generation to follow. I want them to be and feel safe. That's what this is about. Safety. Jewish people, AND Palestinians, are being held hostage by Hamas. Women, children, elderly, the disabled. If you want a ceasefire, then they must be released. It's honestly the simplest and easiest demand Israel could make. Return the innocent. And yes they are innocent. They're only crime was not being Hamas, a crime so many of you openly believe deserves the death penalty. You want to free Palestine? Free Palestine from 17 years of Hamas tyranny. Demand that the hostages be released. Only then can their be a ceasefire. You can't expect Israel to just lay down arms while her people are having their heads cut off. Are you stupid or do you just want Jews to die that badly? Don't answer that. Two things can be true. Free Palestine from Hamas. Free Israel from Netanyahu. Release the hostages, negotiate ceasefire. Stop parroting Far Right propaganda. Jump off the bigoted bandwagon. Failing that, STFU and block me. I'm sick of this shit. Eat glass.

[mistress-of-vos]

Gotham Pride: So many WE sponsored posts that are bland and tacky. A bunch of cops with night sticks. Very boring. Bi Robin and lesbian Batwoman aren't even there. People are literally getting maced in the crowd. Police warned Catwoman not to go.

Metropolis Pride: There's a whole ass LOD float. Lex Luthor was in drag, got kissed by Superman AND Lois Lane. It lasts for a solid 4 days. No crimes are committed because no one wants to be called homophobic by the Superboys. Dreamer and Supergirl lead the parade. Everyone is having the time of their lives. Bi Robin was found dancing with Superboy and Impulse.

[tea-cat-arts]

Since we're getting closer to the release of the next Madoka Magica movie, I'd like to gently remind you guys that Rebellion doesn't have a single reliable narrator, and you really can't take anything the girls say as fact.

Madoka, Mami, and Kyoko have all had their memories tampered with by Homura and don't have the full story

Sayaka and Nagisa are both mentally fully there, but they're biased as they benefit from Madoka's system

Homura is being prodded by Kyubey, is in the middle of a mental breakdown, is missing key information, and is locked inside her own head where she is subconsciously filtering out and ejecting things that don't alight with the reality she wants there

This isn't to say that any of these girls are bad people or being intentionally manipulative. Just please keep in mind that all these characters' perspectives are skewed, and you really can't take everything they say at face value.

[fleurbies]

how it feels watching all the jace anons going crazy in my fav fanfic authors anons,,like bro just enjoy the content nd stop debating if he’s better as a virgin or not 😭😭

[ionesyapping]

👮🏽: ''What are you doing with a knife in your purse, miss?"

👩🏻: "Sir, that's my emotional support knife"

[himbochub]

sometimes it’s wild when i think about it because feedism truly is so deeply ingrained in my identity in the sense that i too have always known i was into feedism, i’ve known i had a deep love and admiration for fat since before i could understand my own sexuality or realize i was trans or really any other basic thing about my identity. so deeply ingrained in my love for beauty and softness and has helped guide me deeply through every other identity- i probably never would’ve came out as trans if it wasn’t for gaining and leaning into fatness! i was always soooooo deeply afraid to come out as trans because i didn’t see trans men like me! seeing fat trans representation blew the roof off my entire mindset and made me realize how incredibly affirming it actually could be for me to live that truth and i literally have never been happier, even with all the struggles ive faced being trans and fat. it’s just so beautiful and cool how two seemingly unrelated things can become the recipe to true euphoria and understanding within oneself, fat pleasure and worship as a tool for healing and even essential part of transformation, making it that much more personal and emotional and beautiful- working to build a body that is truly meant to please myself and bring myself joy, to reflect that in how much space i work to take up and letting myself grow outwardly in all ways. being the big soft boy both physically and emotionally. fat as gender, fat as a tool for healing and softness and love!

[rubberduckyrye]

Needed to be said tbh

[liedownquisition]

Jason Todd's timeline and "Age"

So, there's a lot of discussion of Jason Todd's age esp as relative to other sidekick vigilantes, particularly Tim and Mia. I believe the exact words are usually something about a "grown ass man beating up/trying to kill teenagers."

DISCLAIMER: This particular post is specifically regarding the "grown ass man vs teenagers" statement, I have posts regarding the "tried to kill them" portion and other stuff like "seriously Jason Todd is like being shot by a marshmallow gun compared to what goes on directly before and after him in these incidents, also you don't bitch about the right stuff, also a lot of you prop up characters who are Objectively Worse, and no that's not hate on your fave it's just me calling out hypocrisy". It just takes time to find digital copies of the panels I'm using. NOTE I AM NOT JUSTIFYING HIS ACTIONS. I'm just saying y'all blow it out of proportion for petty character hate. Like, shit, they're superheroes. Jason's soooo fuckin' tame. He's not even framed as a big deal to the teens it's only the adults that think it's that much of a problem.

Courtesy readmore post cut:

Now, to start off, we all know Jason died at 15 & a few months off from 16 (if you want me to dig up panels, sure, but I figured at this point that wasn't in question). Tim at this point is somewhere between 12-13, and we have this panel in Lonely Place of Dying which takes place a few months later:

So that's a ballpark of 2-3 years between Jason and Tim.

But Tim's age is really fucky and they keep de-aging him tbh. We can extrapolate that his confrontation with Jason was between the ages of 16-17 bcs it's after the arc where he has his incredibly shitty 16th birthday in Robin Vol2 #116 and before Red Robin where he's stated to be 17. This would put Jason between 18-19 at the time. (If you really want me to find panel sources for Tim's birthday and his age in RR then, sure, but I don't think they're necessary. I used it more as a guidepost for Jason's age, since we have a clear idea of what the age gap is.)

At least, on paper.

Mia for her part I've had a hard time finding like, on panel mentions of her age and if anyone can direct me to it being explicitly stated I'd love that. I'm rereading old comics but it's a LOT of comics to hunt down & dig through. To my understanding she was fifteen when Ollie first met her, and there's at Minimum of about a year and a half between that to her meeting Red Hood, more likely at least two? because there's at least few months between that and her joining the Titans, the Doctor Light stuff, then One Year Later, and then returned to Star some 3 months after Ollie came back to run for mayor? And then Jason not too long after. So, two years feels safe. Puts her at 17-ish, Jason at 19-20

Once again, I specify: on paper.

People would happily point out at this point that the upward stretch of a 4 year age gap is a "huge gap in maturity." And yeah, under normal circumstances, I'd agree.

But, and this is going to get contradictory bcs I found Two different timelines (BOTH written by Winick, lmao), and depending on how you read it it could be up to three different possibilities. Let's Start with Batman Annual #25: Daedalus & Icarus.

Timestamp before Jason's resurrection, which is pretty well known at this point:

Next, him waking up from a coma afterwards, when he escapes the hospital:

Now the above could be interpreted as either 1 year after he died if we're assuming that it's using the same "start" point to count as the resurrection (unlikely), or one year after he came back (more likely).

Next, the timestamp right before a guy recognizes him and sells him out:

And, finally, the timestamp before being put in the Pit:

That is, count it up, between 3-3 1/2 years where Jason was dead, in a coma, or otherwise not particularly... cognizant of the world around him. His ass is NOT developing emotionally, socially, or mentally like this, which pretty handily bridges the gaps there. Taken at face value, Jason's maturity level is going to be, unironically, younger than Tim's in the wake of these setbacks.

Now, if we go to Lost Days issue 1, it doesn't specify how long he was dead, nor how long he was in a coma, so we'll just carry those two over, what we DO have is this from just after Talia brought him home:

This puts him as being on the streets for five months, so we're at just shy of two years so far. And then we have this:

Which is right before Talia puts him in the Pit.

So, in summary: 6 months dead, 1 year coma, 5 months on the street, and something like 1-1 1/2 years with the League which...

Actually puts us on almost the exact same timeframe either way. 3 to 3 1/2 years. It just changes whether Jason was on the streets or with the League for longer.

And is utterly incomprehensible because comic timelines are a freaking nightmare.

If we're being generous, then that would put Jason at a minimum of 19, maybe toeing the line of 20 for UTRH, again, on paper, because like hell are you convincing me he did less than a year's worth of training abroad throughout Lost Days. Yeah maybe they trained him in fighting while he was catatonic, muscle memory and all that. But the other teachers that we KNOW of? The bombs, guns, probably something to get him up to date on handling all that tech we see him using, Egon, potentially arguably All-Caste if you want to draw from n52...

but you'd have to knock at least a year and a half off of his internal/personal development from death & coma, at minimum. Maybe you could argue he was somewhat developing while in his "the lights are on, but nobody's home" phase, you can't say it's at the same level as a normal person might when going about their day to day life, and it's difficult to measure. But he's not hitting the kind of milestones that he should be for his age. I wouldn't put him at anything less than two years behind. So if we use our upper estimates on Jason, and lower estimates on both the developmental setbacks and Tim/Mia's ages that gives us:

Jason toeing 20, mentally 18, fighting Tim at 16. 2 year gap, kind of stretching the physical age gap if we assume Tim had just barely turned 13 when he showed up to be Robin. - OR LESS

Jason maybe 21, mentally 19, fighting Mia at 17, two year age gap again. Honestly, still not that big of a difference - OR LESS

And, to be frank, that's not even counting the mental development issues that come from the intense physical trauma from dying - and I swear to fuck don't give me the "He's not the only one who died he's not special" speech.

HOW MANY OF THE OTHERS YOU'RE USING AS A GOTCHA LOST, *GESTURING AGGRESSIVELY ABOVE*, LITERALLY MULTIPLE YEARS OF THEIR LIFE.

Not counting adults, of course. Barry lost years, Hal lost years, Ollie I think also lost a couple years? but A) they came back still adults, bodies pretty much the same. B) While Jason's body didn't go through a magic growth spurt in canon, it did still grow esp while with the League.

I'll eventually get around to Titan's Tower & GA#72 (tbh, there are other people who've already done Titan's Tower and it'd probably be better than what I do, so I'm more going to focus on the latter, but there IS a specific part of the former that drives me nuts that I don't see brought up a lot), and maybe if we're feeling spicy all my issues with UTRH starting with how Winick is just as guilty of retroactively writing Jason as being inherently a bad penny since his Robin days as any of the other "modern" writers. Like, bud, Severe enough Head Trauma is legitimately enough to change someone's personality, not to mention trauma. It wouldn't hurt your narrative for that eerie difference, the Shade of What Once Was if you're really going for RH being Like that.

Final addition: I swear to god if you use my post to start up some kind of petty-ass ship war or flame other characters I will immediately turn off reblogs and replies I am Not Dealing With That Shit, please and thank you.

Anyways, @glitter-stained, your interest made me decide to actually put the work in now to pull it up rather than passively gather stuff to dump whenever discourse pushes me over the edge so, here ya are. Looks like you did have it closer on the mark than I did.