#teen girl detective

[vertigoartgore]

Lost & Veronica Mars pilots both turns 20 today. Feel old yet ?

[aaronshattuck]

Mystery estate.

[periwinklepanic]

There is nothing more gratifying than having a friend watch a tv show you recommended. Of all of life’s simple pleasures, it’s my favorite. I’m also good at it ?? It’s very easy for me to convince someone to watch a tv show I like ?? And yeah, I know it makes sense that people I’m friends with would like the same things as me but, it isn’t just close friends either. I talked up WandaVision to a coworker I just met last week and she started it the next day.

I just love talking about tv and analyzing shows with people. I could talk about tv anytime with anyone. I have no idea why but, people listen ! I have one (1) superpower.

[blueskittlesart]

deeply refreshing to see someone critical of Swift who also like, genuinely likes her. Like i'm neutral to positive on her, but the online discourse has been absolutely rancid. flipping between "Taylor Swift has never done anything wrong ever and she's a fucking genius" and "Taylor Swift is the worst lyricist of all time and also a bad person" is exhausting, so thank you for like. nuance or something lmao

not to make it serious for a sec but i genuinely think that being able to like things that are bad is really important. like I think that it's an important skill to be able to look at something and see what you personally enjoy about it and then take a step back and acknowledge that objectively it's flawed. and to also be able to acknowledge that liking something isn't necessarily an identity or a moral stance. and i think that fandom space in general could really benefit from more people taking the time to learn how to do that. it's okay to like things that are bad

[emlynphoenix]

Just watched this episode last night 😂

Was listening to ‘Destination:Wedding’ in the Rani Takes on the World: Beyond Bannerman Road box set and this sprung to mind!

[pinkiemachine]

Hey. Pst! DC Lore Masters. Got a sec?

K, so like, I’ve seen Teen Titans… and some of Young Justice… but I’m interested in the comics.

See these guys up here? These guys specifically (Robin/Nightwing, Starfire, Raven, Wonder Girl, Beast Boy, Kid Flash, and Cyborg), what’s the condensed version of each of their stories? Is there a way to condense it? Is there even a story to condense?

I’m familiar with Raven’s story—half demon, Trigon wants to use her to end the world, blah blah blah, etc etc—and I know some of Starfire’s origins on Tamaran and Beast Boy’s past with the Doom Patrol, and of course there’s Dick Grayson which I know most of the story already, but like… especially Cyborg, Kid Flash, and Wonder Girl… what are their stories? Who are their arch nemeses? What journey do they go on? How do they grow as people? Am I asking the wrong questions? I am just curious, and Google isn’t helping me rn…

Thanks…

[bumblydumbly]

insane how people act like charles is ‘the jealous one’ like edwin didnt spend the whole first episode screaming crying throwing up every time charles looked at crystal and not him

[crimson-dianxia]

t4t painland is real TO ME

original meme

[diamondsunbursts-and-marblehalls]

dead boy detectives is the perfect cure for a broken heart

[welcometogrouchland]

I love Steph's origin as told in the Secret Origins 80 page giant- I just overall think it strengthens her character by giving her a lot of pathos and adding to her heroism (which isn't something writers were focused on in her actual intro in detective comics #647 since she was just meant to act as a plot device back then) BUT there is one tiny detail in it i will begrudge, and that is the portrayal of her having a minor love at first sight moment for tim

Secret origins 80 page giant, ID in alt

(or well, technically this was their second meeting in that story (the brick was the first) so...love at second sight?)

Mostly because Stephanie showed no interest in her introduction and only showed romantic feelings towards Tim AFTER this moment here:

Robin (1993) #4, ID in alt

Straight up the progression here goes:

The adventure in 'tec where they first meet -> Tim investigating the same crime scene as Steph -> she beats him up not knowing it's him at first, apologizes but says he shouldn't have scared her -> he remembers her/the moniker she goes by -> they talk about plot for a few pages -> Stephanie starts flirting

Robin (1993) #4, ID in alt

Which...is so fascinating to me and says so much about Stephanie. She highlights the fact that Tim "remembered" her. Like. Steph. Girl. This is our bar? It's sweet but kind of speaks to how much Stephanie is ignored at home/how little and sporadically she's shown interacting with her peers (and rarely ever the same kids twice). Her idea of peak romance is just...being on someone's mind even when you're not there.

Kind of also adds layers to Steph's proclivity towards jealousy later on, a manifestation of her insecurity and loneliness (though don't get it twisted, she's not written this way bc Dixon and co think it's an interesting character flaw, they wrote it bc they think it's an inherent character flaw of (particularly young) women/girls, which is very apparent in how he approaches Ariana's character as well from what I've read)

Also the fact that Steph becomes so smitten for Tim almost immediately after this is (a few issues later she aggressively flirts with him during AN ACTIVE HOSTAGE SITUATION. WHERE SHE'S THE HOSTAGE) again is kind of a mixture of kind of funny and sad. One boy is nice to her once and she's fully ready to wife him. Girl you are deranged (affectionate) (concerned)

[professoruber]

Flamebird Analysis: The odd treatment of Bette Kane and her history/experience

Batwoman (2011-2016) #1

Okay so first of all, Kate; rude much?

Second of all... was Flamebird's costume really that impractical? Especaially when compared to Kate's costume.

While admittedly Flamebird's original costume was not exactly the height of practicality...

(Although she still seemed quite capable of holding her own in it)

Beast Boy (2000) #2

However she later does in fact get a more practical outfit which she also kickass ass in.

Beast Boy (2000) #4

And we do know that its Flamebird's second (more practical-looking costume) which Kate burns, as Bette ends up suiting up in her aforementioned spare after Kate fires her...

Batwoman (2011-2016) #3

While I am admittedly not an expert on combat outfits; Flamebird's second costume to me seems like it walks a good line between aesthetic and practicality. It has plenty of flair and style to it, but also appears quite flexible and overall not really too drastically different from Kate's Batwoman costume in this regard (rather hypocritical of Kate to say "you need a uniform" while she wears a long wig for no apparent reason apart from style).

If anything...

The "uniform" which Kate gives Bette kinda strikes me as being less practical for the situation compared to the Flamebird costume which she burned. Like Bette's mask seems to be just a piece of fabric tied around her face, which certainly feels like it should be looser and not be as sleek and flexible as the Flamebird costume.

Building off this, from what I've seen and looked over so far, the treatment of Bette kinda feels like it has a weird... juxtaposition at times between what's getting told and what's being shown, I guess.

Like on one hand...

It's shown by both Bette's comments here and the existence of her old Flamebird costumes that she has been experience vigilante for sometime. Longer than Kate I think, if I'm understanding the timeline all correctly.

There seems to be this odd case of both having Kate and the narrative treat Bette as an inexperienced rookie... while also having Bette and the narrative establish Bette as having been a Teen Titan, who has fought Deathstroke and presumably has years of experience.

Even Kate's codename for Bette indicates a rookie status...

However despite the references to Bette's past career and capabilities, and Bette's protests of being more capable than Kate gives her credit for, and Kate also immediately feeling quite shitty at how harsh she was when firing Bette...

The narrative still, from what I understand, kinda vindicates Kate entirely by having Bette get brutalised to the point of falling into a coma immediately after she defies Kate by heading out as Flamebird after getting fired... so I guess Kate was right? I don't know.

Like I said, I just find all of this quite of a weird portrayal. I've been curious about Bette lately on account of her being the original Batgirl (or rather, Bat-Girl), which is a very iconic mantle to the general "Bat-Mythos" even if Bette herself is far less remembered.

I guess one thing I find especially strange is how this is from the first issues of Batwoman 2011... meaning that this was right at the start of the whole New 52 Reboot stuff and so they could've presumably just retconned Bette's experience to make her an actual rookie sidekick instead of this weird half-measure where they both establish her past experience as canon while also otherwise ignoring it.

There's other stuff which I could go over; such as Bette's coma, her stint as Hawkfire, her enrolling in West Point... all of which probably has room for more detailed specific analysis by someone more familiar with both Bette and also the Batwoman comics (I've only fairly recently started looking into this stuff out of curiosity as I work my way through learning more comic history).

So I'll skip to a more recent appearance by Bette in 2017...

Detective Comics (1937—Present) #967

This whole exchange feels once again like Kate ignoring Bette's history, experience and capabilities. Especially the whole "pass second year in the top 99th percentile of your class and maybe I'll put in a good word with you to Batman" thing. No one else needed be top of their class at West Point, or attend West Point at all, to be a superhero. And it just seems strange to have Bette getting forced down that specific road.

Like; going by publication history, Bette was considered part of the original Teen Titans team due to debuting in the 1960s-1970s period. In fact she joined the team before the likes of Beast Boy, Raven, Starfire and Cyborg (at least in terms of publication anyway).

While I'm not entirely certain how her current age placement in the roster, they did still at least establish her as being a Teen Titan who fought Deathstroke and so presumably in the same generation as Nightwing (even if possibly a bit younger) and other core members. The from what I understand the Titans are currently considered senior and experienced enough to be the current "top team" of the hero scene in canon.

So all together this adds up to, as I keep saying, a strange contrast between Bette's stated/implied history and how she gets treated by the narrative.

DC's Legion of Bloom (2023) #1

Last year Bette did make a return as Flamebird (not Hawkfire). Which could mean one of two things...

Kate finally acknowledged Bette as ready/worthy/experienced enough to go out on her own

Bette went screw it and decided she didn't need Bette's permission

Honestly kinda hopping the later cause it brings to mind a bit of the Beast Boy comic which I quite liked...

Beast Boy (2000) #3

Better gets a very stern reprimand from Nightwing (some she admires), and is told she's not cut out for this world and quits. This comes after she's spent most of her appearance in this run being kinda a comedic relief in the form of her repeated failures to bail Beast Boy outta jail (since she's never posted bail before and didn't know how)

But after this..?

Beast Boy (2000) #4

She comes back, with a new (more practical-looking, as I discussed before) costume and beats up several bad guys to help out Gar (who in turn really appreciates her arrival and assistance).

Batwoman (2011) #3

Making this post I've noticed an interesting similarity and contrast between Beast Boy and Batwoman comics in regards to Bette. Both times, Bette gets very sternly reprimanded and told she's not cut out to be a hero and ordered not to be one by someone she admires/values the opinion of.

Both times she defies them and goes out anyway, putting on the same costume both times in fact.

But while the Beast Boy comic portrays her as competent and capable, even having her involvement appreciated by Gar...

Meanwhile in Batwoman?

Batwoman (2011-2016) #4

Bette's defiance almost immediately ends with her horribly injured, and in turn accidentally helps the DEO work out Batwoman's identity.

Two events regarding the same character which that character reacts to in a similar manner but one ends with her vindicated and the other... very much not.

DC's Legion of Bloom (2023) #1

Moving back to Bette's recent appearance in DC's Legion of Bloom. West Point is 4-years in total, and when we last saw Bette she was on her second year at the latest. So with the nature of comic book time, I find it unlikely she'd already graduated.

Her return to Flamebird could also have something to do with Infinite Frontier (I don't fully understand how it works, but apparently everything's canon now again sort of?) re-canonising Bette's competence? That sounds like kinda an amusing thought tbh; multiverse shenanigans happen and Bette wakes up one morning feeling suddenly competent again. Good for her.

Anyway I hope this is a good sign for Bette's character. Even if she's unlikely to be a major player, would still be nice for her appearance to at least depict her as capable. Plus as I said, comic book time means if she does actually stick to West Point, then she'd unlikely to be graduating (and get allowed to be a vigilante) anytime soon. So at that point you might as well just let her go be rich and play tennis since its not like that's a route to her actually doing anything.

Bette seems pretty neat from what I've seen of her, so I wish her the best. Even if Legion of Bloom continues the running joke of her trying and failing to recreate Titans West.

[autumn-foxfire]

"Mom has a date tonight."

The words didn't strike much in Shinichi, as he was already used to Ran's plentiful schemes to get her parent's back together, "Let me guess, she doesn't know?" he asked in a sarcastic tone.

Yet instead of huffing and insisting to Shinichi her plan would work like she would usually do, Ran was silent.

"It's with a man whose not dad."

Shinichi stopped in his tracks. Ran did as well.

He looked at Ran in surprise and was greeted with his oldest friend looking lost and confused.

"Are you okay?" he asked.

Ran's lips wobbled and tears gathered in the corners of her eyes, "I always h-hoped-I want them back-" she began to cry, her words struggling to be sound over her sobs.

Not used to seeing Ran in such a state, Shinichi hovered uselessly beside her. He was unsure of what to say and do. In the end, he waited until her sobs had turned to hickups and she was rubbing the tears away with the palm of her hands.

"I-I spoke with mom this morning," Ran continued, her words still heavy with her sadness, "I got upset..."

Something happened between Ran and her mother, that much was clear.

"Auntie didn't like that, huh," he concluded and Ran wordlessly nodded her head.

"I asked her how she could consider cheating on dad," Ran admitted in a small voice, "I had never seen her get so angry."

Tears began to fall down her cheeks again, although this time, they were a silent trail.

"She asked me what I wanted her to do," a rueful smile twitched at the corner of her lips, "I said if she was lonely she should get back together with dad."

Shinichi winced. He would never say it to Ran's face, but he wouldn't wish her father on any woman.

"Then she said I was mad at her for 'cheating' but wants her to get back with a man that cheats on her whenever he has the opportunity. I didn't know what to say."

Ran bit her lip as the tears began to flow more heavily and sobs once again threatened to escape her throat. "Dad still loves her, I know he does!" she said after a while, "I don't know why they won't get back together and be a happy couple!"

Shinichi felt pity for Ran.

"Because he doesn't love her enough," he spoke up, prepared for the backlash he will recieve from his friend, "And you know he doesn't, Ran."

The anger he knew had been directed at Eri just this morning was thrust in his direction as Ran glared at him, "What do you know?!" she screeched, "Your parents are together!"

"Because my dad doesn't flirt with every beautiful woman he sees in front of his wife when he knows it upsets her," Shinichi said, his voice blank of any tone, "He doesn't embarrass his family so publicly by flirting with women half his age-"

"Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!" Ran screamed, covering her ears, "I thought you'd understand! But you're no better than mom!"

And then she ran away and all Shinichi could do was watch uselessly. He knew Ran knew but this was a truth she wasn't willing to face. He just hoped it didn't ruin her relationship with her mom until she does.

He hopes he hasn't just lost his oldest friend, too.

[dani474]

TRYING TO FIND GIFS OF SHOWS I LIKE

Hannibal (2013) [NBC]

House (2004) [FOX]

Stargate Atlantis (2004) [SYFY]

Dead Boy Detectives (2024) [NETFLIX]

Killing Eve (2018) [BBC]

Teen Wolf (2011) [MTV]

Sherlock (2010) [BBC]

Ghost Whisperer (2005) [CBS]

Our Flag Means Death (2022) [HBO]

Gilmore Girls (2000) [The WB/The CW]

[donnatroyprincessofthemyscira]

[jewishcissiekj]

I'm so normal about this Cassie design by Cully Hamner (right) what do you mean

Totally not basically my ideal Cassie costume that embodies her personality and character perfectly no lol that would be embarrassing given the fact it's a scrapped New 52 design and has almost no hope of appearing in comics again

Jim Lee's scrapped one is also really good so I'm taking elements from it now that I'm drawing the design

DC don't be cowards hire me as your character designer for a minute and a half so I could bring this look back please I'm holding Scott Lobdell hostage

[arianna-creates]

I draw nightwing too often

I should draw Roy and wally more often, I love those two