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Is this Dude Perfect? I feel like it's Dude Perfect
Judging your faves out of context
#judging your faves#no idea what this is#dude perfect#youtube#real person fandom#not dc related#no id
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The Ryoko Kui interview's reception is such a disaster over a pretty normal (yet still flawed) interview between a non-Japanese fan and Japanese artistic. This is discourse for discourse's sake, and it's no surprise that almost every Twitter user I've looked at who's using this interview to parade Kui around as a goated mangaka standing strong against Western ideology is anti-trans.
Like, I do think the interview was kinda wonky with its focus on fandom culture, which Kui clearly didn't have much interest in. But sometimes that happens. Sometimes interactions between two people, especially a fan and a creator, two people who view and interact with a piece of media in completely opposite perspectives, don't click. Does this really need to get blown up into a "West vs. East culture war" issue.
Anyways, Kui saying "I don't consider my audience's interpretations when writing. I leave it to their imaginations, but I have my own read on things too" is the healthiest, most normal thing an artist/writer who wants a non-parasocial audience could say. Artists and writers use this line all the time. If Kui didn't enjoy autistic Laius or Farcille headcanons, she would have probably voiced/signalled her discomfort, like she did on the topic of Senshi fanservice. Overall, Kui handled the interview really well. Props to her to sticking to her guns and keeping a healthy disconnect from the fandom. While I think the interviewer could've/should've been more tactful and restrained, the flaws in their questions is not a symptom of the woke mind virus trying to wriggle its way into the pure Japanese psyche. It's the sign of an over-eager fan who sees a piece of fiction differently than its creator.
#personal#delete later#this isn't even worth talking about in depth#but it's crazy that we're rehashing the “artist intent vs fan interpretation” crap again.#read stuart hall's encoding/decoding.#is it so terrible that laius reads to nd people as autistic even though the writer wasn't thinking about it#is that really something to criticize#also you may think the last sentence is me exaggerating but that's literally what the twt discourse is about#anyways i feel bad for the interviewer who's getting harassed over this#i'm seeing every side of discourse be super uncharitable toward them because it's funnier to make them sound outta touch and confrontationa#like. i'm seeing posts from cool people making the interviewer look like they asked “why did you make laius autistic??”#when the actual text of the interview goes “a lot of nd people interpreted laius as autistic. did you have that in mind when writing him?”#and obviously i think a lot of fandom people upset about this are weird too. joking that kui. a real person. is probably autistic is weird#but who am i more willing to criticize. the overeager parasocial fans taking things a too far and making things kinda weird#or the “kill the woke mind virus” weeabo/otaku terfs who still use the r-slur against queer/nd teen anime fans
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one thing i can't really wrap my head around in terms of like. fandom stuff is the idea of character death as an inherently bad thing. like a good well-written death is one of the best things that can happen to a character
"nooooo my fave died how can i go onnnnn" frankly? skill issue
#personal#fandom stuff#fandom crit#i guess#character death#i love character death. i would rather every character die in agony than end up in what i've seen some people describe as a happy ending#a character is not a real live human it is a piece of a story. if the story would be better with that piece pruned... snip snip motherfucke
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honestly, i am so deep into magical girl fandoms that i forget their focus on female characters and sapphic ships isn't the norm in every fandom. like i was just watching this video because i needed some background noise while i drew
and i was so blown away by how male centered all the fandoms featured here are. m/m ships are the front and centre while f/f ships and female characters are pushed to the back. even in fandoms with a more platonic/family oriented focus, the relationships between male characters always take precedence over those of female characters. and you can't tell me "well, the female characters in x media just aren't well written" because male characters can be worse written and fandoms will take what little personality they've been given and make so many aus, hcs, fanart, fanfics etc. bbc sherlock fandom gave a male character who never even fucking appeared in the show a whole personality, backstory, characterization etc but never bothered to do the same with the female characters they claim were poorly written.
and honestly, its so sad. because there's so many good female oriented media and f/f ships out there but they just won't get the attention that male oriented media gets because people always need a man in everything. you can use the excuse of the female characters being poorly written all you want but even in media where they ARE well written, they get pushed aside in favour of men.
and god forbid you call this out, especially if you're a lesbian, you'll be accused of being homophobic and hating all mlm. i've seen it happen so many times on twitter. just because someone criticizes how mlm always gets precedence over wlw, doesn't mean they hate mlm. mlm rep is important but it sucks how its always given preference over wlw just because people prefer following men's stories than women's stories.
#fuck it i'm tagging every fandom mentioned in this video#(except the real people ones because i don't fw real person fanfiction)#doctor who#tolkienverse#final fantasy#naruto#captain america#batman#teen wolf#bbc sherlock#haikyuu#genshin impact#star wars#supernatural#my hero academia#dcu#marvel#h*rry p*tter was also mentioned in the video but i'm not tagging it for obvious reasons#fandom culture#fandom things#rebecca talks
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something about horrifying ordeals and being known
#bun arts#dca fandom#sun x reader#dca x reader#fnaf sun#this originally had two art pieces but i hated how the one focusing on y/nt urned out#so u just get sun#yes the quote is from steven universe. the 'but im not a real person' line is also one i hope to do smth with
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Proshipper = you're against censorship and harassment over fiction & curate your experience on the internet to have a healthy distance from things that make you uncomfortable
Antishipper = you're okay and even encourage harassment towards "freaks" and "weirdos" society deems acceptable to hurt
#drama llama#fandom etiquette#please stop filling ship tags with hate#moving this post from twt to here#PROSHIPPING IS JUST A STANCE ON HARASSMENT AND CENSORSHIP#It doesn't mean you actually ship or like dark things#only that you're against censorship and attacking real people over fiction#you don't need to identify with the terminology especially when people are afraid of harassment#but don't fill ship tags with misinformation and hate#just mentioning the ship adds your post to the tag btw#just tw for incest??????#literally just tw for the kink#WITHOUT leet speak!!! you can say incest its okay!!!#this isn't about one person in particular#people do this on twt too#if people seek out anyone in the tags to attack i WILL block you too DO NOT harass people
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someone:
*Seeing two fictional characters interacting with each other*
*Headcanon them as siblings*
*Seeing other people ship them*
*Their mind cannot comprehend the fact that people have different opinions and start attacking the shippers and calling them names*
*"Why would you ship siblings -who are not actually siblings but my headcanon says so- together?"*
Congratulations, for being delusional.
#Fandom#Fandom drama#larcille#laimar#lunami#narumayo#harmione#Lunter#dungeon meshi#one piece#ace attorney#harry potter#the owl house#Focus with what you love#And mind your own business#It's not worth it to cause a real person harm over fictional beings
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perhaps if we don't put others down, they would be willing to listen to the points we have to make
#NOTE: THIS IS NOT TARGETED AT ANYONE#hi guys welcome to another episode of me being frustrated with things and needing to voice something#but also being afraid to be interpreted as whiny#perhaps I'll delete this when I cool down#or keep it up. for the near future when this happens once more#sorry if I had been so negative recently. I don't mean to be#but if I have to hear another person say [xyz] is ruining the fandom#I will LOSE IT (REAL NOT FAKE)#negative#<- in case no one wants to see this
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i think it's time for fandom to accept that some AUs are simply A Bad Idea. your lilo and stitch au with two white dudes is a bad idea. your portrait of a lady on fire au with men is a bad idea. your encanto au with a white family is a bad idea. culture and gender and race *matter* in many source texts, and erasing or appropriating that in order to see your two favourite white guys hug is, you guessed it, a bad fucking idea.
#how about let's not put those particular guys in that particular situation#fandom racism#fandom misogyny#this isn't even touching on people creating aus based on actual real-world tragedies#like fucking holocaust aus#don't fucking do it!#these are all aus i have personally seen written/discussed btw#wish to god i were strawmanning but alas
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jayvik shippers PLEASE be normal about Mel & Sky challenge, part 2, difficulty rating: (impossible)
#why do so many of you seem to not understand the concept of loving more than one person at a time#I like jayvik but I hate to see so many people dismiss & deride two black female characters for the sake of their beloved white boys more#the whole 'mel is just manipulating jace!!1!' shtick was already outdated by the end of season 1 let alone now.#if you STILL think that mel is just cynically using him then it's obvious that you haven't been paying any actual attention to the show.#& when it comes to Sky it's true that Viktor's primary feeling towards her atm is guilt. & reasonably so.#but I think claiming that he had zero actual affection for her outside that guilt is a bit much & really doesn't do any favors for viktor#personally I think season 1 made it abundantly clear that the only real obstacle to jayvik was JAYCE HIMSELF.#season 2 episode 2 is basically the first time that hasn't been true so far#arcane#jayvik#mel medarda#sky young#fandom bs#shipping bs
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"We listen and we don't judge" but it's people hating on my favorite fictional character so I'm pretty much listening and pretty much judging.
#“they're fictional character they have no real feelings” well yeah but I do and it hurts me personally#sirius black#lily evans#dorcas meadowes#remus lupin#booklr#books#movies#fanfiction#fanfic#ao3#ao3 feed#ao3 fanfic#ao3feed#stranger things#teen wolf#maze runner#arcane#wolfstar#jegulus#jily#dorlene#marauders#the marauders#marauders era#marauders fandom#the marauders era#dead gay wizards#dead gay wizards from the 70s
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HELLO WAIT DID I FORGET TO POST THIS HERE (made as a birthday present to a discord friend)
#I drew this like 2-3 months ago#two of us#two of us!david#two of us!rowan#art#digital art#Ive been feeling kinda low motivation#and the only thing I Have been working on is a personal project that I cant even share rn#(Looks listlessly at my sprawling character reference sheets) one day you will be real#ANYWAY I was scrolling through my old art to try to wrestle up some motivation for myself and WHOOPS found this#Whatever remains of my TOU fandom might as well get to enjoy this#the prompt for this was they wanted to see a design for Spider!Rowan I think#Rowan is just not very spidery to me tho so I struggled#Hes a puppet through and through
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STOP I'm thinking about the part in Gravity Falls where Stan shows up with freshly bought (stolen) light bulbs only to see Ford screwing a new one in surrounded by family.
And OH my GOD. AGH.
Stan gets a little (ir)rationally upset about this because... It's.. Guys,,,
Stan perceives it as Ford once again easily receiving the praise and love of their family when he had to fight tooth and nail to receive even half of it.... I'm not well ✋😔
#listen I might be too deep in the fandom space and i might actually be mischaracterizing them completely#I'm not saying that Dipper and Mabel don't appreciate and love Stan because they definitely do!!#I'm saying Stan is seeing Ford reintegrate into their new family and he's seeing him do it. so. easily.#So easily When Stan had to PRETEND to be FORD to get even a chance to be a part of their family again#Stan FOUGHT to be a part of this family#and Ford just gets to slide in and... just. be a part of it.#and i mean duh but also... man Idk#Stan had to pretend to be Ford to get even a smidgen of a foothold to be able to even just... interact with his family#Stan's a family man that HAS to look out for everyone but Ford's just.. family. He gets to just... be a part of them with no real obligatio#And I'm not saying Ford doesn't love his family I'm saying he's very repressed and bad at showing it sometimes#It's just that... Stan fought SO hard to be a part of his family. THIS family. That is all he has EVER wanted#and FORD- who had it and took it all for GRANTED- gets to waltz back in and just.... take it for granted AGAIN#hang on guys i think I'm starting to take this a little personally i need to calm down wow#Okay.... I think I'm good#But you get where I'm coming from#cole's talking#gravity falls#grunkle stan#stanley pines#grunkle ford#ford pines#stangst#stan twins#These tags really got away from me huh#Ahem-- all that to say I think Stan's vague resentment in that scene is valid!!
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dan and phil have proven themselves to be fans of freakish gay arthaus horror movie stuff with their dnpc universe and whatever the hell dan was on when he wrote The Urge so in my head ive created this fake short horror film starring them wherein phil dies and his body is possessed by this creature that retains all of phil’s memories and simply wants to live as him normally but dan knows he’s a fake and HE knows he’s a fake and so dan is stuck in this emotional saw trap incapable of telling anyone without sounding insane and forced to grapple with the grief of phil’s death while 99% of phil is standing right in front of him BUT his only other option is to force the creature out of phil’s body and thereby live the rest of his life alone with none of phil at all so eventually he just gives in and lives with this fake phil and no one knows but him. a soul is small dan. very very small.
#sorry if this is insane#Urgeposting in the fandom got me thinking about Dan’s love of horror but only when it relates to his all encompassing love for Phil#and the otherworldly devastation he’d experience losing him#and the insane lengths he’d go to to keep them together forever#btw the creature possessing Phil did not kill him !!! it’s not evil it just wants to live as a person#and pip’s fresh corpse was free real estate#is this anything. horror loving phannies find me#I might make a fic of this#Dan and Phil#dnp#Dan and Phil crafts#Dan Howell#Phil Lester#Phillip Lester#Phan#Daniel Howell
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STOP babying and objectifying Daisuke
STOP making anya a perpetual forever doting victim
STOP making swansea this hotheaded gaurd dog
STOP babying and objectifying and being ableist to curly and removing autonomy
STOP ignoring the complex themes of jimmys character just to mischaracterize and to dunk on your idea of him and, therefore, ignoring the themes of the story
Stop ignoring the complexities of their characters please and thank you
#mouthwashing#mouthwashing jimmy#mouthwashing anya#mouthwashing curly#mouthwashing swansea#mouthwashing daisuke#i need you guys to just stop actually lmao#ik its fandom and its bound to happen#but geez#think this is spurred on by a mixture of shit and weird fanart ive seen#btw this doesnt make that art bad at all!#but you cannot deny how much these works mischaracterize these characters and show very real issues surrounding:#rape culture + pop psychology/demonizatioj of personality disorders+ how yall treat disabled people +male victims of abuse+ how yall treat#abuse victims in general (ahem anya)#how you make characters you cant understand 1 note and boring#ships + media literacy AND SM MORE.#this was spurred on by seeing someone shit all over jimmy and anyas characters#and then scrolling down thru the moythwashing tag just to see someone draw curly as anyas drooling gaurd dog from men#so caught of gaurd aha#i have a lot of opinions on this gane#some controversial some not#eh
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God forbid you ever criticize the lack of consequences Bakugou experiences in MHA, or suddenly you’ll find dozens of Bakugou stans pouring into your mentions to make a speech about how cruel you are for forcing him to eat cement. They’ll act as though “consequences” inherently involves throwing him into the dungeon or putting him in detention for 100 years and then moan about how him facing consequences would only perpetuate a cycle of abuse/discrimination.
Listen, it’s not really that much of a consequence if the “consequence” in question isn’t directly connected to his current or past bad behaviour. “Oh but his scars!” “When he died that one time!” “His guilt for getting kidnapped” None of those are related to his bullying, and in my opinion, that makes them insufficient as consequences in an arc about changing for the better.
The consequences I would actually like to see could be as simple as: Izuku feels sad/mad because of what he went through, or certain characters reflect on how Bakugou’s past impacts their perception of him. More introspection on the victim’s end is needed, Bakugou doesn’t necessarily need to be pilloried for the arc to be satisfying.
#No#listing off every bad thing that has ever happened to Bakugou doesn’t prove that he faced consequences for being a bully#What these types truly want is the most digestible redemption arc they can possible imagine. Where the bully character is let off the hook#in every way while the victim’s side of the story is overshadowed by the narrative focusing so much on the bully’s side#Also don’t you dare try to *But Izuku doesn’t hold a grudge!!! why do you want him to pray on Bakuchan’s downfall?#me.#Izuku isn’t a real person and his feelings on the matter are dictated by an author who clearly prioritizes Bakugou’s emotional development#and introspective over Izuku’s (who is reduced to the awful position of constantly approaching his for#bully with: *You’re doing great sweetie!* as opposed to actually reflecting on how the bullying affected him for the worse#anti bakugou#anti bakugo katsuki#anti horikoshi#anti bakudeku#mha critical#mha fandom critical#fandom discourse#MHA salt#anti mha fandom#my hero academia
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