#Fandom drama

[cute-little-fly]

Omg you brought core memories into me

"i want more media with zero drama, no tension, and zero problematic characters and i am not joking"

Great! Here are my recommendations:

[avengetheangels]

If anyone tries to tell you it is impossible to avoid fandom drama, you tell them about me.

I was on Tumblr and a Sheith shipper as Voltron was airing. I didn't know there was a whole Sheith vs Klance thing until 2024.

That's how easy it is to avoid fandom drama you don't want to see. I did it unintentionally.

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]

tag y’all’s problematic ships 🫶🏻

[tthelady]

"Genshin is better", "honkai is better", "star rail is better", "wuthering waves is better" could some of you all possibly shut the hell up. Would it kill you all to just simply enjoy stuff without turning into it some kind of dick measuring contest

[the-bar-sinister]

So I keep seeing people warning others about a "gore raid" that is supposedly going to happen and to close their inboxes to 'stay safe'.

And I want to remind people that most of the time the warning itself IS the attack. It's people trying to make you afraid and shut down your blog without having to do anything.

It's like how people call in a bomb threat without there actually being a bomb at all.

The threat is the point.

I know a lot of the people spreading the message are well meaning, but never capitulate to mysterious warnings of impending terrorism.

[tremendouszinelovermug]

someone:

*Seeing two fictional characters interacting with each other*

*Headcanon them as siblings*

*Seeing other people ship them*

*Their mind cannot comprehend the fact that people have different opinions and start attacking the shippers and calling them names*

*"Why would you ship siblings -who are not actually siblings but my headcanon says so- together?"*

Congratulations, for being delusional.

[lanadelreyvisualaesthetics]

New comment by Lana on Instagram.

[moondustinfj]

THE Jam Reiderson vs Zamasian fever dream poll be like:

discourse after the results..

[fishfishlove]

[speedsketch]

Digimon Fandom Space Alert

PSA to those of us in the Digimon community. We got a rotten egg spouting anti-gay BS whilst bitching the fandom is dead. Bro, We don't want you here.

Guardiandua

Get that shit out of here, there's no place for anti-LGBTQ+ on Tumblr or anywhere else frankly. Go be a hateful ass in a different community, we don't fucking want you.

If you can't interact with a community without being "given the ick" by some the people in it, you do not belong here.

[scarefox]

Haven't watched anything KristSingto recently but he's right

You can think of fanservice what you want. But the moment you want to police or censor it, it turns into something really problematic. And this stance comes from 2 or even 3 different oppinioned sides but they ironically melt into the same outcome.

But at the end of the day most people forget / ignore, regardless of anything, fanservice still helps normalising public queer affection. And let's be real, most of the stuff in those stage and event shows are that... a show or even a performance! Do you protest at your local theater when they have queer characters kissing? Do you notice how this sounds in a sentence? Yes actors are real people and not characters but especially BL actors & idols still perform stage shows and kind of have a public enertainer persona. You notice how different they are on stage vs. in their personal live streams + nowadays most actors are even very honest about just doing fs for show & fun and often genuine (platonic) affection towards their acting partner but don't pretend to be actual dating (and the ones who do will most likely not lightheartedly come out with it like that... apparently there are exceptions but I have not enough insight on them to judge). You should watch some serious interviews or live stream (translations) of your favs now and then maybe to learn more about them and the industry, they are more than just pretty faces... Actors in just my bubble who talked open about the fanservice topic as far as legally possible at least: JamesSu, Perth Nakhun and I guess we can count Pavel and Nut as well.

What fans make out of it is a whole different story.... and one of the reasons people want to shut down fanservice as a whole. But imagine how lighthearted, fun and easy going this whole thing could be if we didn't had all these toxic naive fans who think every interaction is proof of actors dating (or worse: cheating) in RL. That mindset of "we are BL fans of course we are delulu" is not a joke anymore among some of them. They srsly take pride in that... babes you are part of the problem, stop encouraging it!

Then on the other side, being critical of some of the practices of the industry is one thing but it should not lead into backwards queer censoring... but that's what some are swaying to with their "real people queerbait" agenda or getting the cringes when (samesex) people interact romantically or erotically during live events (that's a bit of a you thing my dears. not necessarily in a queerphobic way but in a purity / shy way and that is a you problem to deal with not anyone elses problem)....

And a lot of people don't even understand or get what most people criticise about fanservice and just jump onto the ban-fanservice train. Without understanding the nuances nor the actual industry circumstances. Like one main argument here isn't even true. Lot of people assume actors get forced into fs. Which is not true (source: one of Perth Nakhuns Q&A vids, the 2. vid i think). BL actors usually know what they get into by entering the industry, decide with eo how much they want to do. Now that can still cause internal personal conflicts like one going over board or not playing enough but that's human miscommunication. Or companies can still be bastards but it's unfair to generalise it over the whole industry when we nowadays have companies who give their actors that freedom.

There are still some points to criticise, definitely. Like I personally dislike how MCs and sponsors sometimes treat actors during events or how fans scream at every little move or glance like crazy.... But the topic is a bit more nuanced (as always in this world) than how most people look at it. I just mean it really always sticks out when you talk with people about their reasons why they are anti fanservice that they just repeat after another with no sources or without actual up to date information or only look at it from one side.

I personally am in the middle. I only like fs when the actors have fun with it and are transparent about it. In the end it comes down to actors consent what they want to give to the audience (reason why it annoys me when people write "i feel like i am interrupting something here / am intuding their privacy" the actors consented! they want you to watch if you want to see it! consent babes! it is fine)

(when i see someone coming in with "but Krist is a homophobe" I will bite you. I am not even his fan and already researched what happened back then when I first saw those accusations when I got into BL 2021ish. It is really not that hard to look up the source and reports of people who were live pressent at the time to understand what went down back then. Ya know instead of believing rumors that twist and lie for rage bait)

[mtascritical]

So, to recap on some people's involvement...

This place and this person, along with her co-owner Huni-bii, both of whom fully support the act of writing a 500 page call out post, and both of whom just will not stop reblogging drama and hate campaign posts...

Why do they care so much? What's their part to play? They weren't involved with the Simprock psychos (OddRobyn, Spagooterx, jacchibi, and yet they're so invested. Are they just addicted to drama and don't have lives outside of it?

That's definitely a part of it, but it looks like the reason they're so invested is because, by their own admission, their target happened to say that their server is toxic, which was paraphrasing something someone else had said in a private space that was supposed to be a tight-knit friends group.

All of this drama is stupid, pointless, and poisoning the fandom, but since these people will not stop, you, the average bystander, please stop and think about this:

These people took the time to write 500 pages of nonsense and extremely edited screenshots to condemn someone.

This was still not enough, and they continue The Dramaz.

They pursue this like someone brutally murdered their firstborn in front of their eyes just because someone said their server is toxic. Given that these people go this far over someone not liking their server, it really says a lot about a place that they run.

They put spies in safe spaces and exploit people's trust.

They took DMs from people not involved.

Some of their "evidence" go back to two years ago, this kind of thing isn't just spontaneous.

There might not be any innocent people here, but consider this: What kind of people are so unhinged as to do all of the above, for such trivial reasons?

Think about it.

[stargazing-sapphire2]

Important PSA

I normally don't do call-out posts, but after everything that went and what I've been told/shown, I can't stay silent about this, especially after it has badly effected close friends of mine.

TRIGGER WARNING UNDER THE CUT: Threats of suicide, self-harm, doxxing and harassment. Please proceed with caution when engaging with this post.

As of this month, this individual has been the subject of drama and unprompted harassment in the Ghosts fandom as well as in both servers (one of which I'm the moderator), as well as on here due to them harassing and acting aggressive on here to those who attempted to reach out to them.

*Urls blacked out for privacy reasons*

They've attempted to get back into the server despite leaving, and if you're here in there, do not understand any circumstance send them a link. This is for safety reasons

•Them sending anonymous hate in response to being blocked

Huge trigger warning for the images down below, as they contain a photo of their self-harm they themselves posted in the server as well as doxxing someone they've had issues with

*Openly bragging about someone who deactivated due to the constant harassment and doxxing*

I have been made aware of his behavior in the other server, where he harassed and insulted a minor over their art, as well as breaking the rules over SFW/NSFW content

Him also openly admitting to being transphobic on his alt account.

Due to the image limit on posts, I will be reblogging additional screenshots through there, and possibly a lot if anything else comes out.

Please block and report this person, and do not engage or talk to them under any circumstance. Please stay safe out there!

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]

what people think pro ship means: dangerous people who want to harm children in real life and/or think taboo subjects in real life are justified

what pro ship actually is about: the belief that people are allowed to enjoy fictional thing however they want, as long as it's fictional and no one in real life gets harmed or harassed in any way, and as long as they tag their trigger warnings properly.

most pro ship folks I've come across are just "hey, you like this fucked up thing that is fictional? okay, cool. you do you, man. I myself don't even like this thing that you like, but hey, it's not real. and I trust that you know the difference between fiction and reality, so you do you. if it ever gets too much for me, I will just block or mute you and move on with my life, but that doesn't mean I think you're a horrible person in real life because of the fictional thing you like, it just means I'd rather not see or engage with this thing that can make me uncomfortable. I still want you to have fun doing what you love, and I still think you're cool as fuck. love and respect, dude"

meanwhile most anti ship I've seen are like "omg you like this fictional thing where fictional children are harmed??! Red Flag Red Flag. put this gross piece of shit behind bars immediately!!!"

and I'm just ????? I don't normally engage in fandom wars, but I think, as long as you don't harass anyone in real life and as long as no one in real life is in danger or is harmed, how you enjoy fictional things is none of my business. and I'm not gonna make any "call out post" where I encourage my followers to harass you because you like fucked up fictional things that I personally don't like or believe is wrong either.

I mean, from personal experience, I was exposed against my will to thing I didn't want to see from anti's screenshot of fanart or fanfic where they encourage their followers to harass this person whose fanart or fanfic, that was screenshot and spread by them, was originally tagged properly with all the trigger warnings so that people who didn't want to see it wouldn't get exposed to it. until anti screenshot it and flaunted it around in the name of being morally superior while also, at the same time, advocated for the witch hunt against someone who just wanted to mind their own business. so... the irony. lol

fandoms used to be more peaceful before Fandom Police starts their witch hunting, but it's a good thing we can just block these people and keep on enjoying our blorbos however we want to enjoy them.

and I'll always encourage every artist to write whatever they want, draw whatever they want. don't let people who think they're "morally superior" tell you you can't make art this way or that way. my best advice would be to block and ignore and keep on creating what you want. they may be loud, but at the end of the day they're just noises and they're not worth your attention x

[pastelpinkkadan]

I try not to get involved in this topic, since it comes up every other month like clockwork, but here’s my thoughts.

I have never, in any fandom I’ve ever been in, had one side of the fandom DEMAND the other side apologize for the behavior of a few individuals.

So if some random Elriels are mean or rude, the other Elriels (who aren’t mean or rude) now have to apologize for their behavior, apparently.

What in the heck would that accomplish? I’m not a parent, apologizing for my unruly kids. And my apology wouldn’t mean much since I didn’t do anything. In fact, any apology would just be used as a way to say “See! Elriels are the worst! Even other Elriels admit it! They’re bullies and delusional!”

It’s painfully obvious what the angle is.

That’s such a weird demand, and I’ve only ever seen this kind of thing happen with ELs/GAs.

And personally, considering I’ve never seen ELs/GAs apologize for the massive misogyny and hate their side of the fandom creates and supports near daily, I’m not especially inclined to rush to their defense if a random Elriel says something mean. Not when I’ve received hateful anons and unwarranted comments from ELs/GAs for well over a year. Didn’t see a single EL/GA coming to apologize to me, even when I know for a fact my posts were seen by them.