#poor sarek

[flavoredfaeman]

Everyday I think about how Sarek hunted down Kirk to be like "I knew you two were married, now where tf is my son's soul??" only for Kirk to go "ooh yeah sorry, not with me. Oh you know what though, our third was acting real strange!"

[conspicuous-gallantry]

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[montgomerydadbodyscotty]

Kirk: It is not my fault that your father likes me better than he likes you!

Spock: Oh, don’t flatter yourself. My father likes everybody more than he likes me.

[spocks-husband]

No bc Sarek and Spock are both autistic, Sybok has the worst ADHD Vulcan has ever seen, and Michael probably has all of the above-- Amanda is the only neurotypical person in the s'chn t'gai household and she's so fucking tired

No one else has ever done the dishes because Sarek doesn't have time in his carefully arranged schedule, Spock starts crying if he touches wet food, Sybok has the object permanence of a literal infant, and Michael diligently avoids the question when it's asked.

[commander-quack-to-the-bridge]

i'm watching Star Trek while I am working and I just got to Journey to Babel (s2 e10) and I'm absolutely losing it at the fact that Sarek is beefing with his son cause he chose to join Starfleet instead of the Vulcan Science Academy.

Sir. Maybe if your people hadn't been so shitty to him while he was growing up hw might have had more of an interest in staying there HELLO???????

crying. turns out being a petty parent is NOT unique to humans.

[queen-boudicca]

Kirk: Mr Spock, this is Ambassador Sarek; perhaps you two are already acquainted?

Spock: it is illogical to assume that, just because we are both vulcan, we already know each other. I believe a less charitable observer might even venture to call it prejudiced

Kirk: shit, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that at all! Thanks for telling me, Spock; I try to be aware of my own biases but I know I'm not immune to prejudice. I'll make every effort to do better in the future, and please don't hesitate to call me out again if necessary

Sarek, to Spock: I was hesitant at your joining Starfleet, but I will admit that perhaps this captain is at least less illogical than his peers

Spock: thank you, Father

Jim:

[dark-elf-writes]

Okay, I love good husband/father Sarek, but just imagine him running out to get whatever it is that Amanda craves while pregnant with Spock.

It’s three am and Sarek is logically bribing the Andorian place by their home to open back up after hours for the third time that week because it’s all Amanda has been able to keep down for days. He pays them ten times the normal amount every time it happens. They become far more agreeable to keeping later hours when he does.

Sarek’s control being put to the test when he sees Amanda dip pickles in her shake.

It’s two am and Sarek is making plomeek soup because “Your baby thinks it sounds good, Sarek!” (He will not admit the illogical thrill that runs through him when she says his baby. He will have to meditate on it later.)

Hearing Amanda crying while he’s meditating and sprinting to her side only to find she is holding an empty box she had mistakenly put back in the cabinet and she wants that particular snack right now.

The clerk that works the night shift at the convenience store by their home knows him by name. They keep a collection of Amanda’s preferred snacks behind the counter just in case.

The Andorian couple give him their personal number and promise to make all of Amanda’s favorites is he just calls ahead first. He tips them generously.

Sarek using his touch telepathy to know what Amanda is craving before she does and taking the worst of her nausea/pain away. She pouts at him, not liking that he is feeling discomfort for her. He tells her it is only logical as she is the one carrying their child.

The clerk at the convenience store calls him “Mr. S” now. It seems illogical to correct them when they are the only two people in the store in the dead of the night and Sarek is still in his sleeping robe.

He often comes up behind her and holds the weight of their child for her. It is the least he can do. The faint almost thoughts of their son that he can feel through the thrum of Amanda’s relief and joy and love indicate that he wants plomeek soup.

Amanda gives birth to their child and he is perfect. She has never looked more radiant than she does lying there exhausted but smiling as she holds their son, their Spock.

The Andorian couple ask when they are planning their second child.

[strangenewwords]

@tzaled

Only to stop spirling on that other post BUT HES SO GORGEOUS.

Tbf, I've fancied him since the Tudors and he was Thomas Cromwell.

It also may be that I have a huge thing for mussing up fastidious people. So I wanna ruin him. Just a lil' bit.

[anndramarama]

About T'pril and her attitude, thinking about things from her POV made me feel for her just a tiny bit. Like not MUCH at all but think about it:

She raised T'pring who is an outstanding person, but it doesn't seem like they have much in common. T'pring struggles to spend time with her mother and, sure, that's because time with T'pril seems to be a lot like swallowing vinegar -- and she knows that, knows her daughter's mind and understands why her company is not preferred. It was played for laughs, but it was actually kind of sad.

And T'pring's career? Something tells me she got some grief from T'pril about wanting to work with social outcasts.

So T'pring is distant and has a high stress job that's potentially dangerous, and T'pril's husband is a checked-out yes man.

And then her daughter is betrothed to someone from the S'chn T'gai family, who are famous and infamous on Vulcan and, well, everywhere. Sure the connection to Sarek is good for her husband's career etc., but the S'chn T'gais are very much THAT family in Vulcan society. There's political intrigue, assassination plots, the danger posed by murderous Vulcan separatists, constant contact with aliens, illegitimate and/or missing children who are never spoken about, every chance one might run into T'pau at a family gathering -- and let's not forget that her daughter's prospective father-in-law married a human, and T'pring's betrothed is a half-human in Starfleet doing Surak knows what, who is currently being shunned by his father.

I mean, whew. That's a lot for one woman from a moderately high status(?) Vulcan family to process.

And then there's Amanda, a human who joined the S'chn T'gais and has seemingly thrived there and in her life on Vulcan which, according to T'pril and Vulcans like her, mere humans should not be able to do. So Amanda is formidable and Sarek's family history is ... a considerable challenge. Given all that, you would think she would be on best behavior, but T'pril doesn't try to blunt her xenophobia one bit. Why?

I think her antagonism is based in fear and the fact that she's intimidated by the whole situation, and by Amanda, who has never behaved the way T'pril expected a human to behave. Amanda was not overly emotional and failed to react emotionally to constant criticism and insults, and what's more she had the audacity to treat T'pril kindly, gently thanking her at the conclusion of the ceremony -- which T'pril had to endure in a human environment, in enemy territory.

After watching those scenes again I'm sure that this is how Amanda dealt with T'pril from the start of their relationship: with an excess of grace, and patience, like T'pril was someone else's misbehaving child who didn't know any better. Which is fair and accurate, but also infuriating to T'pril, because how could she, and by extension her daughter, ever measure up? And after that first misstep, during some first meeting between the families where she made her disdain for Spock and Amanda clear, what could she do but double down in an effort to save face? Because how could they fit in with the S'chn T'gais, a family of intergalactic players who were sure to look down on them for being provincial, ordinary racists? In T'pril's mind they couldn't, they won't, they're doomed!

[wonderlandsakura]

Everytime I try to remember the name of Hannigram's daughter, my brain comes up with Amanda Grayson, even tho I know it's wrong, so I guess Spock is the grandson of 3 cannibals now.

[daftmooncretin]

me: so apparently all vulcans get mind melded as children and have this weird marriage or death ceremony when their mating season hits and we see this in amok time when spock reveals he has a “wife”?? that he’s like legally bonded to??? and he has to go to vulcan or he’s gonna die of horniness or some shit????

my poor father: ..right

me: but then how did amanda and sarek happen??? surely sarek was vulcan engaged too??? did he ditch it to elope with his girlfriend? if he did why does fanfiction always make out that sarek is really ashamed of spock for ditching his vulcan engagement when he did the same thing! why are vulcans even getting engaged at like eight? thats weird right dad? i just know the divorce rate on vulcan is through the roof.

my poor father: yeah that sounds rough for spock. so did you want milk in your tea or….?

[spirk-trek]

19 for the trek ask game!

woohoo headcanons! here's an unhinged list of the ones i have ready in my brain (enjoy)

lingering stares on the bridge = communicating telepathically (usually talking shit or flirting)

jim has a file containing every crew member's birthday so he never forgets to wish anyone a happy birthday

in fact one of the first things he did was read every personnel file and take detailed notes, both because he cares and because he knows a weak link in any situation could endanger them all (so he needs to know what everyone's possible weaknesses could be). the opposite is also true for their strengths! cue him requesting some poor ensign up to the bridge because they did a research project on the specific type of rare space that just knocked their communications out and might have the fresh insight they need

vulcans don't dream but spock occasionally does because he's half human. this was much more common when he was a child and really freaked sarek out

when he starts sharing a bed with jim he starts dreaming again, which really freaks HIM out

jim regularly falls asleep mid conversation with both bones and spock (bones tucks him in, spock pretends not to notice just as an excuse to stay with him a while longer)

vulcans can purr but it's extremely rare post-reform (they're all touch starved and repressed) so spock literally doesn't even know until one night before he's about to fall asleep jim is carding through his hair and it just HAPPENS

spock has extra knuckles. no i will not elaborate

[woman-of-many-fandoms]

ST 09 Script

If he had called him commander Spirk I would have laughed my ass off.

This is hilarious

McCoy's actual line was much better

Nice

McKirk

Glad this was changed. Made him seem sexist

I know this seems small but I would of liked a line (even a sarcastic one) on Kirks love of books

Imagine living in a town with a bar named that

Same energy as "Vulcan's never lie" Spock lied

Aww, I wish they kept this in

The ears <3

This needs to be the accepted canon of how Sarek reacted to spocks birth, not the 'so human' from V.

I like half of this, not the second half

Aww

Shouldn't it be green faced. Why red faced?

This is how porn starts

poor spock

So is Kirk a cadet or lieutenant in this??

Ah, yes. The one use of the F word you get in a pg-13 movie

So the brig was at least momentarily considered

So glad this was cut

I'm actually glad this line wasn't in there.

[quasi-normalcy]

Sarek as a "weeaboo"-style human fetishist or Sarek as a "bring the light of Surak to the poor benighted savages"-style evangelist?

[sechere]

Rough Timeline For Sybok

NOTE: Given the fluidity of Star Trek canon the exact details such as ages, the role Sarek played in Sybok's early life, etc. I am open to discussing with partners in fact I respect it. This is primarily a rough timeline for my own reference and to use as a starting point when plotting.

Sybok was raised primarily by mother, T'Rea, and her clan. As to be expected from a former paramour* of Sarek, T'Rea was somewhat unconventional in her habits and raising of her son refusing to have him be bonded in childhood. A practice while considered the norm in much of Vulcan society is not without some controversy with some like T'Rea viewing it as illogical and primitive. T'Rea was also a Reldai, meaning her family could trace it's roots to before Surak and once held religious and political power.

Sybok's mother died when Sybok was in early adolescence. Despite being an exceptional student there were certain inconsistencies in Sybok's education aggravated by the upheaval caused by T'Rea's death and his being sent to join Sarek's household which left him vulnerable to certain feelings of vulnerability and even anger.

These unsuppressed emotions were not wholly 'negative' as Sybok did come to genuinely love his siblings Spock and Michael. His relationship with his siblings is significant as Sybok was able to observe first hand how they were treated differently than he was often for no apparent 'logical' reason. Furthermore many assumed that given Sybok's social status and being a full-blooded Vulcan he would approve or partake in such behavior which he always rebuffed.

As Sybok grew into adulthood he continued to excel academically but show signs of poor emotional control (Poor to Vulcan standards anyway). ** Sybok had also begun to make connections with others who had their doubts about Surak's teaching or at the very least did not embrace logic as the ultimate answer. By the time he'd reached adulthood Sybok was fully aware of his inability to fit into Vulcan society as expected and elected to leave Vulcan. *** It was during this period he entered a relationship with the human pirate, Angel.

At some point Sybok made the decision to return to Vulcan to advocate against the suppression of emotion. The civil unrest Sybok and his followers posed led to their imprisonment.

*It's possible Sybok's mother was Sarek's intended or who he was bonded to according to Vulcan custom with the engagement having been broken off for any number of factors.

** It's possible Sarek blamed himself for Sybok's emotional nature.

*** It's likely Sybok didn't inform anyone of his departure hoping to do so discreetly and without causing a scandal.