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baffled by all the useless drama. just wanted to say nothing brings me more joy than your vintage pictures posts. under any tags. with or without them.

nobody should care; please dont get upset because some people get sensitive at minor things in wrong time

tysm <3

i was just happy to see them together again. i didn't mean to force it on anyone or alienate them or make them mad.

thank you to those who have sent kind comments & messages. they have cheered me up immensely :)

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Ah. You're a Shatner stan. Makes sense. 

Stop making it out like people who don't like Unification are just sucking out all the fun because we're mEaN. It's a shitty cash grab and nothing more. Not our fault spirk shippers will fall for anything (and I am one. Still true). 

ok this is the last thing i'm posting. i got my laptop out to stop anons because apparently on mobile it won't work.

if you don't want to be called mean, maybe don't be mean? i never said you have to like it. i never said anything!!! like at all!! i just tagged some old art!

if anyone knows the blog the-stars-our-destination they sent me a very short message that didn't really make sense but now their blog isn't working so i think they blocked me and i just... i thought we were friends. i don't know what i did i really don't but can you just tell them i'm sorry for whatever it was :( they were one of my favorite people on this site :(

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people beefing over a fictional ship of fictional people is fucking WILD to me. Like…with everything going on in the world, the wars and whatnot, and you’re devoting energy to being upset over THIS? Seriously? JUST SCROLL. Literally just SCROLL. People using the wrong tag on accident is NOT something to vaguepost and beef over. I’m sorry that happened to you.

as someone who cares way too much about a fictional ship between fictional people i probably can't agree with you on this without being hypocritical. i don't want to disparage anyone for being passionate about anything. i just wanna cry about it lol (thank you)

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Hey, I hope you're doing okay, just wanted to say I really appreciate how you honor Star Trek fandom history on your blog! I'm new to the fandom (like 2 months) so I don't yet know a lot, but your posts have been wanting to make me do more research about it. And I don't understand someone criticizing you, when one of the main arguments I've seen against Unification is that we didn't need it, because we already have our own headcanons, which is valid, but then we can enjoy Unification too without being criticized for it, when we’re all going by what feels right to us

Also thank you for being so nice on my Shatner post, I get so anxious about posting, and kind of immediately regretted it (haven't even watched SNW, who am I to get people's hopes up about a potential Spirk confirmation)

Sorry for the long message, don't worry about answering. I feel like this whole Unification thing is so emotionally overwhelming, at least to me - and I find it so disheartening that now people are arguing so much about it (but I understand of course why people feel conflicted about using Nimoy’s likeness, I do too.) Hope you can get a break from it all and have a nice day <3

hi :)

there's never a reason to be anything but nice. the internet loves to hate shatner so sometimes stories about him become more legend than fact (even the stories where criticism is valid)

i was emotionally overwhelmed in a good way before. now i'm just disappointed. it made me rlly happy to see everyone come together so i'm just being a baby about finding out that's not the case. like, now i just feel bad and weird

anyway welcome to the fandom <3 it truly is something special- please don't feel nervous about posting! also thank you for this message. i'd love to chat anytime about fanzines and trek history. i can recommend several amazing blogs (including favvn's) if you ever want.

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Ngl I did have to unfollow a bunch of people because of their hate towards unification. Like it's literally a 10 minute video I didn't know people would get *THAT* mad about it enough to make like multiple long posts about it. Made me kinda sad too bcs I thought everyone was happy and having fun with it, meanwhile some of the ppl I followed were actively shitting on it

where were you even seeing these posts?! i feel so blindsided. i was on cloud nine with my whimsy and celebration and now it's like oh :(

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literally you didnt do anything wrong & everyones online experience is their own to curate. i loved seeing the fanworks you reposted!! some people being allergic to other peoples joy is their own cross to bear. dont let it dim yours c: its so nice to see how old fan dreams tie into this new short film, i think its beautiful. weve been wanting them to be together forever for ages <3

idk i just looked at the post and a lot of accounts i really like and respect on here liked it and are mad and i just like :( didn't even have a second thought that i was doing anything wrong or that people hated it this much :( i thought we were all having a moment together :(

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Hey so, it's me. The debbie-downer vaguing you in the spirk tag. I didn't mention you directly because my post wasn't directed at you, although it was made in response to checking some of your posts because I do have Unification in my filtered list (content and tag), so those fanworks? Behind a button, so my choice to look is all my own. (I didn't send the anon, though. That was someone else, sorry to say.) It sucks that that's how tumblr's system works but yay content filtering! Tumblr didn't always have that.

I didn't make that post to start drama, and I'm not the sort to get my kicks by being a contrarian for opposition's sake (like. I'm a Shatner fan. In a lot of online Star Trek spaces, I might as well say I hate K/S or Leonard Nimoy or kick puppies in my spare time, you know?), but I did make it in anger and for that I apologize. I should have waited longer on it to phrase things better or simply have deleted it from my drafts after typing it out. (But it's out there now and I'll live with it.)

I do understand where the joy of connecting the past to the present comes from (as a lot of your posts do with connecting old and new fanworks together), and that a lot of people are celebrating the Unification short as a culmination of 50+ years of K/S despite their initial separation according to the initial story, but for me (personally! I want to stress that. It's just me and my own opinion here), I keep seeing it as a valuing of what a company is finally offering fans rather than the celebration of fans who saw where K/S's story ended at the time, rejected that ending that was offered by the corporation, and made their own ending for K/S, without looking towards any official channels as a guide for their visions. That's what my post was about, where my anger was from, those questions--what becomes lost in fandom if we accept canon from the corporation that holds the copyright? What does it say if we look towards that same canon as being above what fandom has already envisioned? In a fandom as old as Star Trek's, one that laid so much groundwork that we take for granted, to overlook that worries me.

I suppose the biggest issue here is it's too similar, like a reflection in a mirror: on one side, Unification stands as the canonization of what the fandom has envisioned all along. It culminates. On the other, Unification appears as a bone tossed to finally appease fans who have seen K/S from the start and it feels too little, too late. Ironically enough, the short has seemingly managed to divide people, but it's too early to tell how lasting such a division could be.

Hopefully I've cleared the air by this. Unification clearly is not my cup of tea and I'm honestly not trying to ruin anyone's fun (most of my posts have gone untagged for a reason but I forget tumblr still parses for post content to index. Yikes. That post was tagged, though, because it was a snap decision made in anger and I wanted my thoughts to be seen). One could argue the short wasn't even made for me as I've long wondered if I will watch Generations because I've read the summary and didn't like it. But that's the joy of fandom and transformative works. We can look at the story and pick our favorite parts and rewrite the ones we don't like. If we didn't do that, fandom wouldn't exist, or it would but it wouldn't be as much fun.

Sorry for the essay in your inbox and for causing any confusion and hurt. I hope you've had a great day 💛

i'm not going to lie, it does hurt a little. i wasn't going to answer this publicly but i don't have the time today to have a private convo and i don't want you to think i deleted it or ignored it, so here we are.

i don't think unification made spirk any more canon than tmp did. i don't think the short was made with k/s in mind at all, even as a bone to toss starving shippers. star trek at large was never intended as a love story between them, but people have always seen it anyway. 

i'm conflicted about the use of nimoy's likeness too. despite that, i think that they did it as respectfully as they could have and involved the right people. it was a goodbye, not using him for a cheap cameo or advertising purposes (yes i know it was an "ad" like everything is, but it's not like spock holds up a coke at the end). you can disagree with me, and i understand your point of view. that's why i said i understood where that anon was coming from. 

what i see is william shatner and others taking a story that ended in a way that was disrespectful to both characters, one of which he himself has been playing for the majority of his life, and trying to fix that. it doesn't mean there's no corporate greed involved. both can be true. at least they posted it on youtube, they didn't premiere it or put it behind a paywall. it was just eight minutes, and less than a quarter of that had nimoy's face in it. my favorite part of the whole thing was seeing tos kirk meet his future selves. i love that even though they both die out of their times, they find each other in the end. 

i don't want to be an activist or defend or endorse anything, i just... 

those zines i tagged were 1) a poem by della van hise that was so accurate to the short that others were already reblogging it (i posted it weeks ago). i found it super interesting that she wrote a poem about them meeting again in death before tmp/wok even came out, let alone this short. 2) i was gushing about unification in the tags. 3) another poem about being side by side, which again, i found incredibly relevant. the other one i posted was because it went well with the others visually. it has nothing to do with unification other than the fact that spock is laying down. 

this has just made me sad tbh. i'm not angry and i love your analysis/fan work so much, so :( idk, i don't want anything i post to be divisive or disrespectful. i wasn't even worried about that before. i just really needed a win and maybe i clung to that a little too hard :/

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i haven't watched the new video because tbh i'm still building up enough emotional strength, but given the circumstances i changed my mind about never posting this drawing

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Return to Tomorrow (deleted scene), 1968 // 765874 Unification, 2024

Together, forever. I hope someday, with someone, you'll find out what that is...

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There was someone in the spirk tag vagueing about you posting old fan works with the unification tag, I think that’s where that other anon came from. I’m sorry, I hope you’re not dealing with more of that bs :(

:/

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Hi, I have #unification filtered because I find the use of CGI and prosthetics to mimic dead people's appearances very uncanny. Can you not put old, unrelated fanart under that tag?

i respect your opinion and i'm sorry you were bothered by the tags, but tbh at the moment i am enjoying this and celebrating with the fandom. part of that for me is the connection over decades, through past and present, to come to this point. i'm not sure which art you're referring to, but honestly i'm tagging the two (spirk + unification) simultaneously on everything since it just happened and it's a big moment we're all experiencing together. i get that your interpretation of it isn't the same, but that's where i'm coming from.

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Festival Fanzine | Deeb, 2001

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Charisma Fanzine | Elizabeth Kay, 1992

BY MY SIDE by Patti Byher

Alone, Without knowing He is there, Can be The darkest side Of lonely.

Joy, In knowing He is there, Is the peace That is known In the soul.

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First Time Fanzine | DEW, 1992

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Happy K/S day!

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suspense!

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this fucking movie and the essence of living felt in spock taking death to reach the stars