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hmm...resident evil brainrot...specifically crossdresser wesker who likes to do it, cause he looks really pretty in a dress...
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Fairly OddParents Kin/System Server!
Hi y'all! Just finished setting up a server for Fairly Oddparents fictives and fictionkin* with a few new friends!
It's designed specifically with kinning and systems in mind! We have channels for sharing memories, rambling about folks you miss, and a place to answer questions about your memories! Alongside a good handful of general channels, art channels, and a section just for talking about FOP <3
Open to anyone from any FOP-related media! Whether that be the original, A New Wish, Nicktoons Unite (even if you're not a FOP character), live action movies, Fairly Odder, comics, video games, what have you! Wow, there's a lot of FOP...
If talking to other sourcemates sounds like fun, we'd love to have you join! Hope to see you there :D
*specifically for fictives/kins, yes, but anyone can join as long as you're nice! And understand what those are before joining, please </3
#reposting onto my kin blog!#fairly oddparents#fop#fopanw#a new wish#fairly oddparents a new wish#fairly odder#nicktoons unite#fairly odd parents#kin#fictionkin#did osdd#did system#osdd system#fop kin#fop fictive#fairly oddparents kin#fairly oddparents fictive#fictive#introject
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At the end of the day, is kin just someone who identifies as their kintype or not? Is it anyone who actually identifies as their kintype, or do they have to perform all these 'correct' behaviours and social dances to prove that you kin- pardon, that you are kin- correctly?
#beep boop#sorry i got fucking salty on this last one bc its fucking annoying people reblogging a version of that post with dumb misinformation about#how introjects work and whoes entire argument is 'well kin as a verb doesnt work for literally everyone therefore you should stop using it#person who it works for'#when my partner and i both already took down why thats a bad argument but no one bothers to check the fucking notes#and its most useful for fictionkin anyways and then a bunch of dragons and canines are saying well i dont have a use for it#so therefore its bad!#on his post about how HE PERSONALLY USES IT and people turning into like hes commenting that eveyrbody and their dog should use it#LEABVE HIM ALONE#LEAVE VALENTINO ALONE#sorry. i dont mind discussion but it pisses me off when shit we already explained is being ignored#And saying you wouldnt invalidate someone for using it while coming onto someones post about how they personally use it#and admonishing them for doing that#hm.#and this tying back to my very origional post on the topic#which was about how coming at people for how they talk makes the community hostile#regarudless of if you like it or not#can you . consider. minding your bees neez?#and everybody all up about the harm kff do meanwhile using kin as a verb doesnt make you kff and you can spread correct info while still#verbing it#and second of all i have seen new questioning otherkin literally harassed and driven out of wanting to every interact with the kin communit#because of the hostility twoards people who use 'incorrect' lanauge#WHIHC WAS WHAT I WAS ORIGIONALLY TALKING ABOUT#BUT NO ONE WANTS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT DO THEY?#IS DOING DAMADGE TO HE KINMUNNITY SUDDENLY NOT IMPORTANT NOW#IF YOU DONT GET TO GO AROUND AND ENFORCE SOME RULES?#kin discourse#kin as a verb#anyways if you encourage people to be alowed to police behaviour in this way#which is what you are doing if youre saying no one should be allowed to do it which is what the argument people are making is
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Introject heavy partner systems are always funny to me
#It must be funny from an outsider perspective. Transfem cWilbur introject and her moonboys#I didn’t know their source at the time - I just think that Jake was that enigmatic :3#I always want art of me and my boys but I would rather die than admit to my favourite artists#That I’m commissioning - to an outsiders perspective - art of transfem cWilbur and Jake Lockley#Imagine they hit me with the DNI because I just so happened to latch onto this character. I’d have to change the trajectory of their life
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speaking of batman, i dont give too much of a fart about harvey dent/two face but they would definately be the most fitting for me "kinning" wise
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one of the fun things about DID is when i remember that im so singularly focused on cameron because like. my other alters talk about the lther characters
#ive had thoughts that have been taken from me before#give me my ideas back asshole /light-hearted#and ofc here is where i could go onto a ramble about introjection in DID but i wont i dont think anyones here for that
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(pretend with me for a moment that you are a singlet getting your first alter if you're already a system for the sake of entertainment. if the character/person you last reblogged IS you, please pick a different one.)
okay: you've been hit by the System Ray, and you now introject the last character/real life person you reblogged onto your blog. if you reblogged a multi-character post, it's the first character you look at.
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Plural Culture is wishing more people understood "source separation" is different for everyone and regardless of how they do it, it is actually very important for introjects
Sometimes source separation is just "okay, I'm not actually {source}, but I'm a lot like them and still look at my source and see myself and don't plan to change. But I can acknowledge I am not genuinely them" and that's okay, that's good
Sometimes it's "I look at my source and feel nothing, I've changed my name. I hardly look like my source any more. I don't really identify with it at all." And that's okay. That's good
Sometimes it's "I've accepted I'm not {source}, and I've got a few differences, but I still mostly identify with my source other than that" and that's okay, that's good!
Source separation is not "I can never be anything like my source ever" it is getting an introject to the point where they understand they are not actually their source, and are not suffering because of source memories constantly
I get so tired of seeing people argue about it on sysblr, because I've gone all the way with how a lot of ppl think source separation works
I don't look like my source, I use a different name, I've grown up a lot because my source is like 3 years old and I'm 19, and I don't have a lot of source memories any more either
But my best friend in sys still very much identifies with his source and he's very happy about that. He understands he's not that character, and he's learned how to cope with source memories both good and bad
And he's been told he's "anti recovery" because he's not source separated enough. And it pisses me off so much, because he is! He is as source separated as he needs to be to function.
Source separation looks different for everyone, don't shove one way onto every single introject. Let them figure it out
-Ava
#endos dni#osdd#pdid#did#did system#pdid system#osddid#actually did#traumagenic#actually dissociative#plural culture is
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Unfortunately you do have to make a post explaining what introjection is and why its bad if you don’t support it /nm /gen
Hello, let's a get a few things straight.
1) I never claimed that introjection is bad, and I never said I don't support it. The initial post this anon is referring to involves me stating that holding onto the belief that you are a literal fictional character is anti-recovery rhetoric. Either the anon misunderstood my post, or they're twisting my words, the second of which I don't appreciate.
2) I am a nursing student and am currently employed at a disability office. I know what recovery should ideally look like and what it doesn't look like. Aside from that, people more qualified than me have studied this element of psychology, and there are plenty of resources out there explaining what I'm talking about.
But since you and the original post author asked, and since I'm running on 26 hours of no sleep and don't care to wait for the morning to make this post, you'll get my explanation now. Apologies in advance if my tone sounds rude or aggressive. I don't mean to be, and again, lack of sleep may affect my tone. I'll maybe edit this after I sleep to sound nicer. Who knows.
Let's get started.
Introjection, as defined by the APA (American Psychological Association), is "a process in which an individual unconsciously incorporates aspects of external reality into the self, particularly the attitudes, values, and qualities of another person or a part of another person's personality."
Introjection is something every single human on this planet will do, even outside of dissociation. Cultural values are a good example. If you primarily grow up in a Latin American household, you may introject traditional family values, the same values your parents may display. The same goes for any culture and their own values. This occurs with fictional characters as well. Ever watch a TV show and you suddenly start using your favorite character's vocabulary? That's also introjection.
In dissociative patients, particularly those with a complex dissociative disorder, introjection is commonly found with abuser introjects. These introjects often take the form of persecutors. Here's a screen grab from The Haunted Self:
"Without the ability to mentalize perpetrators, to create symbolic representations, children may "take in," introject, the "bad" object of the perpetrators. Thus, as EPs they claim they are the abuser, and not the abused, and have the affects and behaviors of a perpetrator to varying degrees."
These introjects serve as coping mechanisms, as do all alters within a dissociative system. With these particular alters, the brain creates them to build a barrier between it and the abuse. An internal thought process may be, "if I commit violence against myself, then I'm not really being hurt because I'm doing it by choice." Various thought processes similar to the one I just outlined are used as justification for the internal abuse. Children direct blame towards themselves rather than the perpetrators because they're often told the fault of the abuse belongs to them by their abusers or even by others. To protect the child, persecutory abuser introjects may form to direct the abuse inwards as a way to make sure they're "actually at fault." Introjects are largely used to cover up an internal struggle or trauma within the self.
Fictional introjects are no exception. The thought process for introjecting a fictional character may be, "if I am [character], then the abuse never *actually* happened to *me.*" The brain may see a character that has gone through something similar to the body and grab onto said character as a defense mechanism for denial. This has been documented, however my hazy memory and 26 hours of no sleep is not a good way to hunt down the sources for this. This segment may be edited when I get some sleep.
Taking all of this into consideration, stating and believing that you are literally a fictional character feeds into the denial loop the traumatized brain has created. Denial is never a good ingredient for recovery. Recovery begins by facing what has happened to you and healing from it. Hiding behind denial prevents this process from happening. It prevents integration (the lowering of dissociative barriers), communication, and teamwork from occurring within the system, all of which are needed for healing. Hiding behind what is essentially a lie created by your brain does not help you, nor does it help your alters beside you.
I do understand that not everyone is ready to face the denial and challenege it, and thus saying/believing that you are literally a fictional character is what is keeping you alive at the moment, but the line has to be drawn when you start encouraging others to feed into the denial loop as well. Healing is done on one's own time, and spreading anti-recovery rhetoric removes that autonomy from others. I could visually see that spread in the reblogs.
That spread is the problem I had with the initial post. I never had a problem with the post being about introjection itself. My problem is that it is encouraging others to stunt their recovery when they may otherwise be ready.
Seeing posts similar to that initial post tends to prevent the process of looking inwards and figuring out what is needed in the individual. It encourages the process of looking outwards and only applying what is deemed "acceptable" within the community to oneself. I know that I personally only began to see myself and what I needed when I moved away from the community and stopped seeing anti-recovery posts. I'm sure I'm not alone in that regard.
@certified-silly-guy Here's that post! I don't have the energy to do back and forth reblog replies, so please DM if you have any questions.
#starlit speaks#dissociative identity disorder#did osdd#did#syscourse#did system#oea#ramcoa#misinformation in did spaces#misinformation#introjects#fictives#factives#fictive#factive#again no sleep so lets all be civil
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hello, my lovely <3 it's so nice to see you!
come with me, you can trust me, right? :)
welcome to my personal blog. i'm a 21 y/o c!dream fictive in a bodily 19 y/o system, so feel free to interact as you'd like (with your own discration). i'm hella radqueer, so don't be afraid to say what you truly want to say, i'm not here to judge, just have fun.
i'm here to interact with others who wish to speak with me, whether that be sourcemates, fictionkin, or just general freakiness curiosity. i will also be using this account to braindump and reblog posts, so to keep things organized each anon will have their own tag, whether emoji or name.
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Most dreamoths live in nomadic friend groups that travel along the surface of the conscious mind. They seek memory trees to find the best memory orbs to gather and decorate their silk nests. Each individual moth has different tastes, some prefer childhood memories of playing tag on the playground, others prefer memories of wearing hats. Whatever they prefer, they pluck each from the tree and weave them to their nests. As an unintended consequence, those memories deep underground into the subconscious, and influence the dreams I have. Once the moths move onto a new location, they leave behind the nest, where it decomposes, and the memories break free and float back to their memory trees.
Some introject families make it there mission to keep dreamoths away from certain memory orbs to prevent them seeping into my dreams. It’s a common stereotype that ints and moths are natural rivals because of this. The ints most successful at this currently protect my scary memories. In a perfect mind, ints would leave the moths alone to perform their ecological role (to influence my dreams), but since they also work with memory orbs for their own agendas, competition is bound to happen eventually.
#selkra scribbles#emotionsonas#species dreamoths#species introjects#inner world#head world#headspace#paracosm#paragenic#inside out oc#inside out fandom
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A swordsman with the gift of prophecy?
You know, for such different characters, Zero and Siffrin really do have similar symptoms. Memory loss, delusion, hallucinations... next thing you know, Siffrin'll have a ponytail and start dressing as a samurai.
(It's crazy to see another Katana Zero fan out in the wild. I thought there were only 6 of us left.)
Fellow katana zero fan 🤝
AND YEAH. No memory of home. Some form of time loop (I mean just look at the V kidnapping scene). So many mental issues.
And as for Null! I chose their name very deliberately. I wanted to portray what an introject into this au and how it works (at least from my experience). I wanted an act 5 version of Siffrin to exist in the Sifstem, and having that mentality latch onto a character to form, leading to. . .
The "Play" was one Siffrin saw sometime in the past and remembers almost nothing about it. It was basically K0 plot. Jinn/Keaoholo'oko'a/The universe actually references that it's a game in our world when Null brings it up! ("I know that play! Well, not exactly a play, but it's still a story!" / "I hope your story ends better than his.")
Also for the record, an alter being able to dress up how they see themselves in headspace is a form of, well, body euphoria. If you're trans, you understand.
#null real!!!#art#isat#in stars and time#isat spoilers#isat art#isat fanart#siffrin system au#sifstem#isat au#isat siffrin#isat null
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Something I really struggle with in did spaces is just how sensationalized introjects are.
Introjects are parts that take on identity traits or qualities of someone either fictional or factual. The most common type of introject is an abuser. I at one point was aware of one, I don’t know if that’s still the case. Fictional introjects come about when a child undergoes extreme trauma and the lines between the media they’re consuming and the real world abuse get blurred.
Why do syscord and sysblr treat introjects like characters? You all will yell about how introjects aren’t their sources while demanding borderline roleplay out of anyone you come across, whether you’re the introject or whether you’re interacting as a “fan.”
I haven’t opened up about introjects because they’re either based off of abusers or very indicative of my trauma, and I don’t intend to do much here, but I’ll say this.
It’s not painful to be an introject because you miss source or your friends or family.
It’s painful to be an introject because you attribute traits that were in the media onto abusers of yours and feel crazy when that’s the only way you know how to associate them.
I wasn’t literally in the situations that I’m based off of in my source (it’s a novel), but now I can only associate my abuser with systematic and intentional abuse, and not the accident that it actually was. I have such a hard time believing that what I experienced just happened to occur, and that it wasn’t some insidious attempt to ruin me the second my abuser had the chance to.
Introjection is such a complex process that changes your outlook on absolutely everything. I cannot understand the desire to survive such an ordeal as trauma and abuse and to want something like an introject as a result.
These are not fictional character besties that live in your brain, or YouTubers who want wacky situations with you, these are traumatized parts that have embodied traits of characters you were so immersed in you couldn’t tell the difference, or abusers who emulate the same traits that harmed you in the first place.
Do better system community
#dissociative identity disorder#mental health#did#dissociative system#did osdd#actually did#actually dissociative#trauma recovery#did system#adult did system#introject#fictive#factive#syscourse#system discourse#system community#system stuff#sysblr
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Been doing a lot of thinking about who "I" am in relation to my system. I'm Crimson, but who is Crimson? I'm... an imaginary friend, I guess? I started out as one, I mean. I was with Purple a lot growing up, and she'd pretend she was playing with a little mouse who got into all sorts of silly, mischievous trouble. And that's me, the mouse.
But... I'm not "just" an imaginary friend. I've fronted before, like many of the other alters in this system. I've talked to alters other than Purple. Hell, I've been the host for this system on and off... but I still struggled with identifying as "Reimei". Like, sure, I'm a part of the Reimei system. But... am I Reimei? I couldn't tell you that for a long time. Logically, if I'm an alter in a system, then that means I'm a part of that system, right?
I've struggled the most with the idea of fusion and identifying with a singular sense of self. It had nothing to do with losing the others, or losing myself. It was that I didn't feel like a part of Reimei the person. I was always Reimei's imaginary friend, inherently separate from the rest of the system. I didn't understand what it meant for me to be both an imaginary friend and a part of this system. Did that mean I was my own person? A completely separate identity? "You don't have to fuse if you don't want to," the others told me again and again. But I wanted to. But I also didn't want to. And I wanted to understand why I didn't want to.
And so.... I spoke to the only other alter I knew who had similar-ish origins to me. I spoke to Tiger Plushie Green, who, while not actually our Tiger Plushie irl, is an introject of him. And we talked about how we're similar, why we're different, and, notably, why he's able to consider himself Reimei while I struggle with it. "Well you see, even though I'm not actually our plush tiger toy, Reimei had a habit of projecting a personality into that plushie," he told me. "And by projecting into the plushie, that means Reimei, or rather, I, was projecting a part of myself into the toy."
And... it felt like something clicked for me. My entire perspective of myself changed in that moment. I realized that I have always been Reimei, but I was so lonely that I projected a version of myself into an imaginary friend so that I could be less alone. The thoughts and feelings I had projected onto that little imaginary mouse all originated from... me. But I am also that mouse, because the mouse is a part of me. I cried so hard, suddenly understanding what it means to be "a part of Reimei" and also what it means to be "all of Reimei" at the same time. I'm both. I'm an imaginary friend of myself. How sad, how lonely I must have been as a child, that I found solace in becoming a mouse to soothe my own pain.
Anyways... I thought I would share all of this on this blog that we keep. Perhaps there are other imaginary friends in systems out there like me, wondering how they fit into their system and their collective identity. Maybe my story can help someone out there better understand themselves.
#did#dissociative identity disorder#actually did#actuallydid#did osdd#osddid#cdd#imaginary friends#did alter#did system#by crimson#by reimei#about green#about purple
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Ask the Inter-Systemic Tulpar Crew!
Hello all! I've been debating how to begin this post, but I figure no time like the present! This account is a Muthwashing-related ask blog! The difference between this and other ask blogs that are Mouthwashing-related is that the answers will be provided by introjects of the characters from the game! This account currently is ran by 3 systems: The Treehouse Tavern System (myself), the Moonlight Nightshade System, and the Mystery Box System! From those systems, we have a Curly fictive (TT), Anya fictive (MN) and a Daisuke fictive (MB). What is a system, you might ask? In my own words, a system is a form of trauma response. When under heavy duress as a child, when the brain is still forming, the brain might find it simpler to attach a train of thought onto a different direction, making a new pseudo-personality to better handle certain situations! As this person grows, their stresses become more complex, and so new alters (or personalities, if you will) are made. In most cases, these alters may be mirror images of fictional characters that the person might have become attached to! These fictives/introjects may then have memories of what life was like before entering the system! This ask blog will allow people, as well as ourselves to discover what each fictive's world was like! I do hope we find ourselves some people that share a love for the game as we do, and remember that these alters are distinct people; inextricably connected to their source material, but not exactly like them!
#mouthwashing#captain curly#anya mouthwashing#curly mouthwashing#daisuke mouthwashing#ask blog#ask me anything#ask us stuff#please be respectful#did osdd#osdd system#did system#fictive#introject
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Anti Endos and Projection of Decisions and Hurt
I'd like to start this off with my story and how it relates to the experiences of many hurt anti-endos.
I don't remember a big chunk of my original trauma, most of it feels like a dream that has chunks guarded by Red our protector. I do have bits and pieces, and I know for a fact that I went through RAMCOA.
Growing up I got hurt by a lot of women, and one of those woman's personas got introjected into my system and would retraumatize me consistently for a few years. This was before I realized I was plural.
What Im trying to say is I have survived a lot of horrible shit, and I know it's why I'm plural, and I have had horribly abusive headmates before.
Anti Endos bring these forms of exo and internal abuse up whenever attacking the slogan "The future is plural". I saw an anti endo say
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And I got angry enough to make this. Maybe it was rage bait, but I'm convinced most of them genuinely believe this.
Using your own trauma and hurt to invalidate the existence of others is one of the most vile horrible things you can do. Not every traumagenic system is formed from programming, not every system existing is formed from programming. Trust me I know the pain of being hurt that way, but are you serious? Don't use your trauma to hurt others. No endo wants to fucking program a child and abuse them, this is just a false analogy used to bring fear to others and towards the movement. We are not the enemy.
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I have experienced strong negatives, I've felt strong dissociation, memory loss, and Scald has gotten lost before and we do struggle a lot in disordered experiences. But this is expecting that every system puts the negatives above the positives. This is expecting that your experience and perspective of your own system lines up with everyone elses. I don't care that I have so much to deal with, being a system makes me extremely happy and I would love to share that with others. Obvious negatives? Yes, but "few" positives? In my experience with DID, psychosis, and even BPD I do my best to see the lighter side of them because I wouldn't be me without them. I have so many more pros than cons that comes with being a system because I actively changed my perspective in order to accept ourselves. I had to see the joy of it because I was abusing Scald by not accepting him and giving him individuality. I understand a system seeing their DID as more negative than positive, but this is projection to others which is simply narrow minded.
Before going deeper, I want to affirm that I have no hatred towards those who go towards final fusion or uses parts language. This is an argument about those who project their end goals and hurt and suffering onto other systems in order to invalidate them.
While I may not experience this towards my own system, I can understand why others may despise being many and/or desire to end as a singlet. However in the argument against endos; being broken, wanting fusion, using parts language, and hating yourself as a system is bought up multiple times. Here are some examples:
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Their views on their systemhood, while valid, is narrowed to the expectation that every other system should see it that way and if they don't they are put into the pile of fakes and subject to harassment. Anti endos have called me disgusting simply for expressing how happy being a system makes me. It reminds me of when I was a transmedicalist(essay for later) to be honest.
If you don't want to fuse, if you don't see your systems existence as an abomination, and you desire better acceptance from the world
You are a fucked up groomer who is anti recovery, never wants to heal, and wants to abuse children.
I'm sorry I love my system
I'm sorry I found so much joy in my system that I would love for there to be more of us and better acceptance of us
I'm sorry that I'm not all pessimistic on my system
To be honest, I can't change the past I went through, I can't delete my system,
But maybe to me it's ok to see the good that came out of it even if its hard then and hard now
Projecting your perspective of your systemhood onto others though, projecting false analogies based on your own trauma, and expecting every experience to be the same as yours is vile and just self victimizing in order to hurt vulnerable systems looking for community.
Giving your sob story, ranting about how you hate your pieces/headmates, and then tying it up with "and thats why endos want to hurt children" is a different level of fucked up
small personal note: if I had to endure everything again just to be with Scald, I would Over and over and over Piss yourself mad about it antis, I love my system and we aren't faking because of it
#actually plural#plural community#plural system#plurality#traumagenic system#pluralgang#system things#did osdd#osdd system#pro endo#syscourse#syscource#tw syscourse
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