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The bestest most wonderful part of AMAB/AFAB is that it's inescapable. You can change the gender on your birth certificate, but you can't change your AGAB. You can get all sorts of surgeries and hormones and whatever to permanently alter your biology, but you can't change your AGAB. You can come out as trans at age 5 and be socialized your entire life as your real gender, but you can't change your AGAB. Beautiful concept. Very progressive. Yes I am a good ally.
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Something I've noticed about TRAs is that they are literally the epitome of hypocrisy.
They claim to advocate for inclusivity and to disapprove of discrimination based solely on someone's beliefs, yet see no wrong in treating people who don't agree with them on the issue of transgenderism with the highest level of disrespect and contempt, nor do many of them seem to have a problem with using threats of violence to silence dissent, as they are aware that at this point they will ultimately face little to no consequences for doing so. In fact, they believe that in doing so they are performing some heroic deed, justifying their actions by claiming that they only do it to protect people while refusing to acknowledge that they're actually doing the opposite.
They claim to oppose gender stereotypes (particularly those regarding appearance), yet when arguing with a non-TRA on the issue of, say, a biological man claiming to be a woman, they will immediately say something along the lines of "You're ridiculous for calling 'her' a man; 'she' looks more womanly than you!" or, for the opposite scenario, "It makes no sense for you to call 'him' a woman; 'he' has a flat chest, a deep voice, and facial hair!" So we aren't allowed, for example, to say that it's completely absurd for someone to claim to be the opposite sex while not at least putting any effort into looking the part—since, according to them, a woman or a man is anyone who identifies as a woman or a man and to say otherwise is bigotry—but they're allowed to say that simply possessing the physical features associated with the sex a "trans" person claims to be is enough and that people should use a "trans" person's appearance as an indicator? These ideologies completely contradict each other. Do they really believe that "gender is a social construct"? Clearly not, since they rely so heavily on the gender stereotypes they supposedly believe shouldn't exist even to support their own arguments. They just use that phrase to make themselves look intelligent and philosophical.
You can't just say that one way of thinking is correct at one point and then—to prevent yourself from getting confused about the unnecessary and nonsensical complicatedness of your own ideology—say that a different way of thinking is correct at another point.
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To celebrate pride month I’m gonna get myself cancelled by saying my sexuality headcanons for DC characters! Most of which I know pretty much nothing about! Please don’t kill me :D
This is a long post and NONE of this is canon. I have very little knowledge on any of these guys these headcanons are based purely on vibes and it’s all for fun so take it with a jar full of salt.
Bruce/Batman:
He would be bi. I have no doubt about it. His Brucie persona would be very open about it, flirting with potential sponsors at galas no matter the gender to convince them to donate more to his charity as well as flirting with the reporters just to spread the rumors that he's a playboy. As Batman he’d be much more quiet about it. He never talks about himself so no one knows anything about him. No one ever realizes he is bi until he reveals his identity and as one of the most prominent openly bisexual celebrities in the world, they realize right away.
He was born a man and understands and supports transgender people but he never thought too hard about it for himself and is very confident in his gender being male. He is comfortable with being feminine at times without it reflecting his gender and sometimes dresses in drag for photoshoots and paparazzi.
Diana/Wonder Woman :
She lived in a society of exclusively women where lesbian was the default. You either liked women, or you liked no one at all. She was the latter for many years until she met Steve and then she felt something strange for the first time. It took her a long time to realize it was love and that she was only attracted to men which is why she never felt anything for the women in her previous home.
When she hears about transgender people she’s a little bit offended by people ‘deciding’ not to be a woman at first but that’s because she misunderstood the concept. After a bit of explaining she not only accepts it, but becomes a huge ally and will defend their rights fiercely. She has never considered she would be anything but female and is incredibly confident in her own gender.
Clark/Superman:
He’d be just a tiny bit bi but he doesn’t know since he never put much thought into it and much prefers women anyway. He gets a bit uncomfortable when people talk about lgbtq+ things since he doesn’t understand it but he supports it anyway and will fly over pride parades with various flags given to him by Bruce.
He knows transgender people exist but doesn’t understand that being trans is an possibility for him specifically. It just never crossed his mind. When asked his pronouns he says “I’m a man :)” and he’s so kind about it and clearly trying so most people just smile and nod and don’t bother explaining that that isn’t an answer.
Barry Allen/Flash:
He definitely experimented in college and wasn’t exactly opposed, but romantically he is only into women and after marrying Iris he had no reason to keep trying new things. He loves his wife and that’s all that matters. When Wally comes out to him as gay he’s very supportive but doesn’t understand much and promptly researches every single lgbtq+ label in existence.
He doesn’t fully understand transgender stuff but he’s trying really hard. Right now he’s too busy memorizing the names and flags of every sexuality. Check back in a few weeks when he realizes theres more to it than that and actually pays attention to things like transgender rights and homophobia. He will be a changed man and a fierce ally, trying hard to shed light on these issues and change the laws to be more inclusive.
Martian manhunter:
Gender and sexuality are human concepts. Biological sex is irrelevant to a shapeshifter so why would he let it limit him? He doesn’t understand why it matters so much to humans but he tries to understand. He knows a lot more about the lgbtq+ community than most people and fights for their rights but still doesn’t care much about his own labels.
He accepts whatever pronouns other use for him. He literally could not care less.
(I just wrote so much stuff and it all got deleted. Pain.)
Hal Jordan/ Green Lantern:
After travelling through space for so long you start to realize that human gender norms are kinda stupid. When you meet enough sexless space blobs who’s pronouns are based on developmental stages or races with thirty seven sexes and only one set of pronouns for all of them, you start to question if “male” is really the only optjon for you. He doesn’t know his gender quite yet but he’s pretty confident he’s not exactly a man. He doesn’t talk about it much except with people he’s very close to. He has noticed that he has a heavy preference towards 'women' no matter the species, as long as they're sentient.
Billy Batson/ Captain Marvel/ Shazam:
I think he’d be biromantic asexual trans man because hes my favourite boy and I say so. Again, do not kill me. He’s canonically dated and had crushes on girls but I feel like the whole ‘sometimes looks like an adult’ thing would really complicate things and he would try to push away any romantic feelings to not let it distract him from his work or cause any problems. It would probably take him a good few years to realize that he also likes guys and even longer to realize he never really felt anything further than romantic about anyone.
He knew he was trans since he knew what gender was. He has never identified as a girl and as soon as he could talk he told his parents he was a boy they were like “alrighty then!” And treated him accordingly. Hair cuts, pronouns, clothing and such. He didn’t even realize it was seen as ‘abnormal’ until his parents died. his uncle refused to call him by the correct pronouns and all his foster homes after that were similarly transphobic. He never faltered though and when he started living on the streets, he threw away all the dresses and bows his previous fosters got him and never looked back.
Batkids lightning round:
Richard Grayson/Nightwing:
Very openly gay while in costume. Still open out of costume but is just the teeniest bit quieter about it (aka when he’s out of costume he can’t yell at villains about being homophobic for hitting a gay man every time he takes a punch)
He’s a man (either trans or cis, i havent decided yet lol) but he isn’t afraid to wear a dress and makeup every once in a while and is very comfortable with his femininity and masculinity.
Jason Todd:
Who cares? He sure doesn’t. He’s dated women and doesn’t think it’s necessary to explore any further.
He’s never explored his gender and is a bit toxicly masculine but he can, will, and has killed people for being transphobic or making a transgender person feel even slightly uncomfortable. Huge ally though he doesn’t talk much about lgbtq+ rights, it’s just so obvious to him that he doesn’t think it needs to be talked about. A fan group online keeps a tally of how many homophobes and transphobes he's sent to the hospital and the number is unbelievably high.
Tim drake:
Unlabelled. He doesn’t have time to think about any of that but he knows he’s probably not straight, especially considering he has dated men, women, and nonbinary folk. It doesn’t really matter much to him.
Same thing for gender, who has the time? He identifies as male because looking too deep when he feels just fine as a guy would be a waste of time to him. If he had a transgender friend suggest it though, he would look a bit deeper and find that he’s either cis or gender apathetic. At that point he'd get bored and stop again lol.
Damian Wayne:
He has other things to worry about. Like eliminating all crime, for example. And polishing his swords. He'll deal with the whole 'romance' thing when he is the appropriate marriage age and will select if he wants to date a girl or a boy then. (He has not yet realized that isn't how it works. He'll realize hes aroace eventually but for now teaching Alfred the cat how to steal from Tim is much more important)
Other misc hero’s:
Zatanna: bi with a preference for women.
John Constantine: (edited this one because it was misunderstood) Bi but that’s none of your business. Won’t go out of his way to hide it but isn’t gonna tell you about it either unless it’s actually relevant.
Kon-el/Conner Kent/ Superboy: Gay. Maybe one day he’ll try dating a woman or something just to see if he’s interested but for now he knows he likes men so he’s sticking to that. They use He/they pronouns.
Wally west/ kid flash: Gay. Thought he was bi for a bit but realized he was just trying to hold on to a tiny bit of normalcy and accepted he would never be ‘normal’. He’s very happy with his boyfriend now! Experimented with different pronouns for a few months but ended up being a cis man. The experience really helped him understand the community better and hes glad he tried it out even in it didnt result in a big self discovery or anything.
And thats it! If you have a different headcanon please tell me in the comments/reblogs/tags/whatever!! I’m super interested to hear them.
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Well can you explain Gender Ideology with who uses it and where? Can you show where I can find it? Can you describe it without conspiracy theory or recycled homophobia? You are welcome to try.
So I think some of the confusion might come from the language. I know you’re being facetious with this comment but anyway. I am literally a gender studies major so this will probably be more in depth than what you’re asking but maybe someone can benefit.
Gender Ideology™️ isn’t some sort of official concept and doesn’t have an agreed upon definition or foundational text like other social theories. It’s a way of conceptualizing sex and gender. Other analogous frameworks would be biblical gender roles, the Christian fundamentalist ideas of men and women, or postmodernist queer theory, something like Butler’s Gender Performativity.
You’re right that gender ideology is vague and non-specific and I think this is because of the interaction between academia, politics, medicine, and popular culture. Sure, academics and theorists influence society, but rarely in such a direct way (please feel free to correct me). For example, the American civil rights movement and women’s liberation movement had academic elements, but were not governed by how academics theorized race and sex, they were based on people’s lived experiences. Transgenderism, I think, is the opposite and somewhat of an escaped lab experiment. Towards the end of the 20th century, academics began to write about gender in more provocative and philosophical ways. Obviously, this was not the first time anyone had done this, but there was a huge shift in the way academic spaces thought about gender in the US after women achieved full legal rights (which didn’t happen until the 1970s btw). I’m sure the fact that women and gays/lesbians could finally be scholars and professors was important as well. Anyway, I might disagree with Butler, but her theory work is at least intellectually robust. And if you read Butler, it’s very obvious that she is first and foremost a philosopher, not a sociologist or an anthropologist, and this is clear when you hear her speak (which I’ve done btw). Contemporary transgenderism, as a social category, is a direct result of these theorists. There is a lot of misrepresenting or even rewriting history but “transgender” as we understand it today did not exist 20 years ago. We like to call people like Marsha P Johnson transgender, but he didn’t identify that way. He called himself a gay man, a cross dresser, a drag queen, a transvestite etc etc. TRAs often say “trans people have always existed” and homosexual behavior and gender nonconformity (and maybe even sex dysphoria) have always existed but trans as a concept undeniably has not. I could talk a lot more about historical falsehoods and Transgenderism but for the sake of getting to the point I’ll move on for now.
Gender ideology, is how groups like radfems refer to the Frankenstein monstrosity that is the framework Western left/progressives use today to think about gender and sex in order to be inclusive to transgender identifying people. The main ideas are that biological sex is not real and neither is sex-based oppression. It maintains that social and medical transition is necessary for transgender people to live, and that medicine is able to change someone’s biological sex (it can’t). Being transgender is not just dysphoria but some innate sense that someone’s soul is differently gendered than their biological sex (except biological sex is also somehow not real, one of many paradoxes). A woman is “someone who identifies a woman,” even though this phrase is completely meaningless. Because gender is not tied to biology sex, it relies on social ideas. As a result, gender ideology reinforces regressive gender roles and stereotypes, without which it cannot exist. 20 years ago we said boys can play with dolls and it doesn’t mean they’re gay because gender stereotypes aren’t innate and are very harmful, today “we” say that boys who play with dolls are actually girls and need to be given a pink makeover and put on medication. While society was beginning to move away from gender, gender ideology has brought it back to the center and gender is once again considered to be central to one’s identity (and personality) and maybe even the most important fact about them. For this reason “misgendering” and similar actions are considered violent attacks on personhood. Crucially, gender ideology converges with conservative gender ideals through its obsession with gender and performing femininity and masculinity.
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anon from earlier here. i thank you for your nice response to my words, and i do respect that you are supportive of trans people's presentation, though it is a bit confusing to me that you said this in your response when i am aware that you have uncritically reblogged a post claiming trans women to be men in a derogatory manner a few posts down? i understand that you may not share that view despite reblogging the post, however it does not fill me with confidence in your convictions that you support how trans people present and identify.
i would like to say that, while you and your personal circle of radfems may not harass any trans people, and i appreciate that, that there are many radfems who do, in fact, harass trans people. not simply arguing passionately like someone in the replies of your post claimed might be misconstrued, actual harassment. i have personally witnessed entire campaigns of harassment against popular trans users led by radfems. again, i am glad that you don't do this, but it does happen.
lastly, i am curious what you mean by "at the expense of women's rights" with regards to changing of sex. of course people can't change their sex down to their chromosomes (which aren't always reflective of how their body actually develops anyway), nor can they make themselves able to reproduce in the opposite manner, sex characteristics can be changed through surgery. is this what you mean? i've seen radfems argue against plastic/cosmetic surgery before, and i think their arguments are often somewhat reductive. or is it inclusive language? i've also seen arguments about that, though i think that's stupidly pedantic considering that "people who can become pregnant" does include women, just as a statement. or is it about sports, which are often either pointlessly segregated (shooting, chess??) or where gender/sex isn't the most efficient category to sort competitors (ex. basketball, where it would be better to sort by height. there are very tall cis women and shorter cis men out there) and the segregation of these sports just makes it easier to underpay women.
...i do apologize if any of that came across as confrontational, i am not trying to be. i do enjoy debate occasionally, though i am a bit tired right now so i may not be choosing my words as well. if you don't mean any of the things i've mentioned, though, this may actually be a new argument to me, and i'd like to know more about it (i probably won't be checking for another response until morning though so take your time). again, i do wish you well.
Hello again!! 🤗🤗 This is probably the part where our differences come out a bit more so bear with me!! This is all in good faith. :))
I do support anyone's right to dress as they want and call themselves what they want, however I see the words woman and man to mean adult human female/male. That means nothing at all except an accurate biological descriptor of humans, and it matters to have words to describe our physical differences, because a) it's just reality that we're built different and b) women are oppressed on the basis of those physical differences. 'Adult human female' frees up the definition of woman from being "feminine" or "baby-makers" (barf) and vice versa from men being "masculine" or "tough". It means you can do literally anything you want, be whoever you want, call yourself whatever you want and you will be no less of a woman/man. To me this is more progressive than doing away with biological descriptors and only going off of stereotypes. This is why I reblogged posts saying trans women are men; it's not mean or bigoted for the sake of it, they're just an adult human male, and the word for that is man. I've seen trans people's definition of man and woman and it doesn't sit right with me, because it lends itself to a lot of stereotypes. It's why some posts about this are combative from radfems, because we take offense at the idea that we're being reduced down to a feeling when our oppression is so very sex-based. What makes them women apart from a connection to the cultural stereotype of 'woman'? What does 'woman' even mean, then? If you take away the biological definition, it means nothing at all, because women aren't a monolith or share some spiritual essence of womanhood; we all have varied experiences. Saying that no, there's a specific 'womanly feeling' that all women have seems downright spiritual, and that's one of the reasons why radfems dismiss it so readily; to us it has no basis in reality and is similar to religious beliefs. We are gender abolitionists.
We don't believe you can change sex because... you can't. You mentioned plastic surgery, and radfems are against it for cosmetic reasons, simply because we oppose surgically conforming to beauty standards that are harmful and socially constructed. We want people to be encouraged to be happy in themselves, dammit! ❤️ People can imitate the other sex, but you can never actually change it because that's just impossible. A surgically constructed vagina is not as complicated and self-cleaning the same as a female vagina. Breast implants are plastic and don't have a complicated network of ducts like female breasts do. Do you see what I mean?
As for sports, yes, sex does matter, as much as I want to duke it out equally against a male. We have different muscle mass, different fibres, different testosterone levels and different areas of strength as a group. Yes, some of these overlap between the sexes, but not enough to do away with sex classification. A 6" man is going to be statistically far stronger than a 6" women, even with similar training. This isn't to say women are weak, because hell no. Again, women are not weak, it's just that we define weakness in a way that benefits the quick-fibre, burst muscle strength of men, whereas women are stronger over a longer time, and are more physically superior (?) in pretty much every other biological way (such as muscle regrowth, disease resistance, harsh weather resistance, pain tolerance, etc etc.). Women fight for spaces where we can be recognised by our own potential, not competing against the standards set for men, by men. The slowest male swimmer, for instance, is still faster than the fastest female swimmer. We aren't inferior because of it, we just want to be judged on our own merits.
For more mental sports such as chess, no; men and women are not different. The issue is misogyny and having a space for women. Men can be incredibly cruel in these spaces, and it's proven that women often perform worse against men because of internalised misogyny/misogyny coming from their opponent. Women just want to play in a space that lets them reach their full potential, and that means no men!
This is quite long 😮💨 I'm glad we're having this conversation, and I'm taking in what you're saying with an open mind! I just hope I've laid out my ideas well enough. Looking forward to debating more! 🫶🫶
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I’d like to break down my current feelings and gripes about the trans movement, both to inform my followers and maybe start a discussion.
The vast majority of trans people are relatively normal and are just trying to live their lives in peace.
Trans women are trans women. They are male, and by definition it is much more accurate to call them men than women, but I do believe they are something of a separate category. The same goes for trans men, in reverse.
Definitions like “a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman” and “a lesbian is a non-man who’s attracted to non-men” are ridiculous and frankly offensive. The word lesbian is taken. It means “female homosexual”. Literally nobody is stopping you from making your own term, so stop trying to forcibly redefine ours.
Male socialization and female socialization both exist and are important. Trans women were socialized male and trans men were socialized female.
The sheer amount of vitriol towards “terfs” and anyone else who questions anything is just…disgusting. It’s acceptable to send them graphic rape and death threats, doxx them, assault them at protests, and celebrate when they get sick or die. I don’t know how to explain that that’s not normal fucking behavior, especially since “terf” is thrown around very casually these days.
Biological women should be allowed to have spaces that don’t include any males, regardless of the purpose. Lesbian bars, female only gyms, female only domestic violence/rape shelters, and literally anything else are fine and should be allowed to exist without being vandalized or threatened with shutdowns.
The former point includes female only sports teams. Males are biologically very different from females and it should’ve be offensive to anyone to say so. Both sexes have advantages and disadvantages over the other, it just happens that many sports are designed in a way that makes it easier for males to succeed.
Abolishing female only categories in award ceremonies, scholarships, and the like in the name of inclusivity is stupid and completely forgets the reason they were established in the first place. Male bias exists and women will almost never be included because of it.
I’m not against transitioning because I believe in total bodily autonomy and find language like “mutilation” to be incredibly gross and callous. However, I think it’s bad and dangerous to be presented as the literal only treatment for dysphoria.
Children who express any form of questioning or gender nonconformity should not be immediately assumed to be trans. A little girl saying “I want to be a boy” may mean “I want the freedoms that boys have and this is the only way I know how to express it because I’m six”. For actual trans kids, puberty blockers are dangerous and minors should only be allowed to socially transition.
The entire idea of being non-binary is frankly silly to me. I believe it to mostly be a poor coping mechanism for sexist stereotypes. Again, do what you want, but don’t expect me to take you seriously.
The way a lot of information and discussions that don’t support the current trans narrative are censored or lied about online is really bad and honestly borderline cult-like. Very few people actually know what radfems believe because people are discouraged from reading anything straight from the source. The Cass Review was picked apart in bad faith and many of the articles that “sum it up” are just straight up full of false information. Detransitioners are swept under the rug and told to shut up and stop trying to ruin things when they try to talk about their experiences. The trans community needs to do better.
And most importantly:
I do not want trans people dead. I believe in my heart of hearts that the vast majority of actual radfems and gender criticals do not want trans people dead. Neither ideology is hateful or inherently against trans people.
(Y’all just hate being told “no”.)
(Also I probably forgot something, so feel free to ask or discuss idk)
#radfem safe#terf safe#personal#trans#misogyny#gender critical#i s2g if this flops after all the time i spent on it i’m killing someone
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TERFs intentionally make it impossible to argue with them.
They refuse to listen to men. To them, Men are incapable of having good opinions or points. If you are a man, then your point is immediately invalid to a TERF. They have no interest in listening to men, because they are of the belief that all men are inherently evil, which is completely against the whole thing of feminism. The only good men are Trans-Exclusionary Gay Men, because they share the same opinions, and they don't see them as the same level of man that straight men are on.
They refuse to listen to Trans Men, Transmascs, or anybody who in any way implies that they were assigned Female at birth. To them, we are just delusion women, who have internalised issues, and that's why we hate them. They literally cannot fathom the idea that we hate them because they literally do not treat us like people.
They refuse to listen to Trans Women, Transfemmes, or anybody who in any way implies they were assigned Male at birth. To them, that's a delusion man. That's a man pretending to be a women, and as we all know, TERFs hate the idea of men. They think that they hate TERFs because they're secretly women hating men. They literally cannot fathom the idea that Transfemmes hate them because they do not treat them like people.
They refuse to listen to Intersex folk because they see them as birth defects. They see them as exceptions to the sex binary, not an equal part of it. That, or they flat out refuse to believe such a concept exists. Intersexism either isn't a real thing to TERFs, or it's these super rare cases where actually their sex is just fucked up. TERFs literally cannot grasp the idea that intersexism is normal.
If you're a Lesbian or Gay Man who is trans-inclusive, despite being cisgender, guess what! They don't fucking listen to you either. You're basically just bisexual to them, and you don't want to admit it. They cannot understand the idea of being Monosexual and being Trans-Safe.
Are you a Culture-Specific Third-Gender such as Two-Spirit or Fa'afafine? They also won't listen to you, because to TERFs you're not actually that thing, you're just a feminine man, or a masculine woman, or you're castrated. TERFs don't believe that third-genders exist in other culture. They see it as a matter of genitals, even if that's incorrect.
And they refuse to listen to Feminists who are Trans, and Feminists who are Trans-Inclusive, because to TERFs, feminism is only about biological sex. To TERFs, gender is a matter of what's in your pants, and if you have the wrong thing in your pants then you are an awful human being. TERFs see people as genitals, and not people. They show it in every way they interact with men, every way they interact with trans people, every way they interact with intersex people, and every way they interact with Trans and Trans-Safe Feminists.
If you agree with a TERF, they automatically assume it's because they're right about everything, rather than assuming that you share an opinion. TERFs literally cannot understand a world where things are complex. In their eyes you are either completely for everything they say, or completely against everything they say.
They have all this bullshit set up so they can pull out a big red buzzer any time you validly call out their bullshit. The only way they know how to argue is using Ad Hominem and Tone Policing.
TERFs are no goddamn better nor any more inclusive than the patriarchy they say they hate so much. They are no better than the bigoted men they bash. They are no better than any of the people they say they hate.
#i know ive been making a lot of anti-terf posts today#im not good at dropping topics#trans safe#trans inclusion#anti radical feminism#anti gender critical#i know damn well there are gonna be TERFs doing this exact shit to me in replies#smh
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i just saw jessie gender's "trans women are not biological males" video and . . .
it's so catastrophically awful. like one hour of strawmen and flat out inaccurate and false constructions of what is meant by the term "male" and "female" and "biology"
and isn't it funny how the goal with the trans movement as headed by these guys is about erasing distinction rather than providing clarity? we say, fine, transwomen are transwomen, and they can go by she/her, but no, they need to be called "women." okay. then we call transwomen "women", but male, and they say, "no, we must be called female."
woman and female are not inclusive terms. they are descriptive. i don't care who doesn't like to be "defined" if you exist, behave and are percievable in this dimension, you will get a fucking label because no one has the time to pretend to see you as an "essence." no matter how many times we move the goal posts, we are still going to need language for those distinctions between trans women and women, but oh wait . . . hold on, there are distinctions that are acceptable. we can use "trans" and "cis" for women.
and that's the thing isn't it? women can no longer define themselves as they want, centering their biology and struggles as the female sex, because they must define themselves as trans women want.
acknowledging sex differences, which is vital to women's rights and liberation, the core of their oppression, is now secondary to the comfort of transwomen.
it's an affront on feminist consciousness-raising. screw up the language so much and so successfully that you can't meaningfully discuss women's oppression.
feminist-materialist ideas are incompatible with genderqueer-metaphysical fantasies. jesse literally starts railing on "naturalism" being some kind of "belief" that how we are born is "is the only way we should exist" or some shit, which is like . . . not what naturalism is.
As indicated by the above characterization of the mid-twentieth-century American movement, naturalism can be separated into an ontological and a methodological component. The ontological component is concerned with the contents of reality, asserting that reality has no place for “supernatural” or other “spooky” kinds of entity. By contrast, the methodological component is concerned with ways of investigating reality, and claims some kind of general authority for the scientific method.
naturalism is literally about investigating reality: it's constraints and capacities. no "naturalist" is arguing that people are born perfect, but that they are born male or female, which is a biological system, not a fucking dress code or magical aura. it means, jesse, that even if you took more estrogen or got implanted with ovaries or feminized your face or got a vaginoplasty, your MALE BIOLOGICAL SYSTEM will react accordingly. this is why transmen can't just take testosterone without it causing serious physical risks. this is why trans women still can't fucking gestate a baby. STOP LYING TO PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT MALENESS AND FEMALENESS MEANS.
and top comment was some shit like "They just replaced ‘In the eyes of god’ with ‘biologically’ and thought we wouldn’t notice that it makes no sense because it invokes science".
It is a literal religious trick to refer to scientific endeavor or non-religious philosophy as its own religion. you are the ones thinking religiously. christians and young-earthers literally call "atheism" and "science" religions. like . . . what are you on right now?
biology is not a language game. it's a fucking reality. if you called water "spoof" it wouldn't change what water is or how it behaves, for fuck's sake. even if you believed really hard that the ocean was calling to you, it wouldn't change the fact that oceans cannot physically form a mouth and consciousness. i don't care what judith butler or forest valkai or whatever a pedo-queer theorist man said. women's oppression is not due to pronouns, fashion, or the english language.
trans women are biological males or they wouldn't be trans, jesse. you're fucking up your own lore.
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Bruh it’s so true what you said about nonbinary as a label cuz that would assume that there is a binary. There’s no binary when it comes to gender or sex. Literally fucking “man” and “woman” are nonbinary cuz there is no fucking binary to begin with. “Male” and “Female” aren’t binary sexes cuz intersex variations literally exist and not everyone is born XX or XY. There is no fucking binary, surly I’m not the only one that this makes sense to
YUP.
Before I get into this I want to say I’ve heard intersex people saying they don’t want to be brought up in this argument (I think because it can feel to them like they’re just a talking point, and their rights are often forgotten in conversations about trans rights- eg. the argument “no children are being forced to go on hormones” is true for endosex kids, but not for intersex kids (whether they’re trans or cis).
I don’t mention that to shut you down or anything, I only bring it up because I’m not intersex (as far as I know, I’ve never had my chromosomes tested) and I’m trying to be as inclusive as possible when making arguments that sex isn’t binary. My rights and needs are aligned with the rights and needs of intersex people but I also recognize that they have rights and needs that differ from mine and I want to support them and elevate their voices whenever possible.
I want to acknowledge that there are multiple definitions of what “intersex” means- some that define it merely as having different sets of chromosomes and others that define it more broadly as “ people born with atypical and stigmatised sex characteristics that do not meet stereotypical expectations for men or women.” I think that second definition is good and more inclusive but I also want to point out that it relies on the idea that there is a “norm”.
For example, most medical establishments don’t consider PCOS to be intersex, but many people with PCOS consider themselves intersex. The point I’m trying to make here is that all of this is based on the idea of a “norm” existing, and that means that someone (a biased human being) has to decide what that norm is.
So some of what I’m about to talk about may be considered intersex, and while I’m trying to avoid using that community as a talking point I also think it’s important to talk about the flawed way that science discusses sex and sex differentiation in general, and it’s difficult to do that while completely avoiding anything that might be considered intersex for someone, given the breadth of definitions the term has.
Some of the people with the traits described below may be considered intersex and some others would not. The reality is that biological sex differentiation doesn’t stop after birth, and our bodies can develop in a variety of ways that align our needs with the needs of the intersex community regardless of whether or not we were categorized that way at birth.
One example of this is that genitals exist on a spectrum- there is no either or, they start from the same tissue and what they end up looking like just depends on how much hormone exposure they had and what hormones they were exposed to. It’s not scientifically a binary. Like. It’s not. It’s a genital spectrum. So what determines the cut off of “atypical”? How does a doctor decide that someone is so “atypical” that they should be categorized as intersex when they are born? The answer is it’s arbitrary.
Beyond that, even the effect that hormones have on you depends heavily on what kinds of receptors you have, how efficient those receptors are, where they are, and how dense they are where they exist, and these effects may not be visible until long after birth during puberty.
This gives rise to the wide variety of ways that hormones can affect the body regardless of chromosomes or anything else- there are cis, endosex men with xy chromosomes who have less body hair than I had before I transitioned, and there are cis endosex women with more body hair and a nicer beard than any of the grown men I know.
For people that study sexual development it is notoriously hard to use biological features to categorize sex in a way that gives reliable medical information. And this is where I’m about to talk about some things that are under the intersex umbrella for sure, but which are also used by medical professionals and scientists when defining sex.
Most people don’t have their chromosomes tested, and even if you have the chromosomes expected for your AGAB it’s possible that another gene won’t express the protein needed to trigger gonad development.
Or you can have the expected chromosomes and all the other necessary genes being expressed and forming functional proteins, so your gonads match your chromosomes, but your gonads don’t produce hormones, or you don’t produce the receptors needed for your body to respond to those hormones, so your genitals and secondary sex characteristics (body hair, breasts, ect) don’t develop in the direction some people would expect based on your chromosomes.
Functionally I would say what matters medically is for all people, intersex or endosex: what body parts do you have, what organs do you have, and what hormones are you dominant with? And none of those questions are answered definitively by the question: are you male or female? Imo that question obscures a lot of important information and likely leads to a lot of medical mistreatment. But beyond that none of it is relevant to the social categories “Male” and “female”.
Like, what even is my “biological sex”? I don’t know what my chromosomes are, I haven’t been tested. I know I have ovaries, but my body is testosterone dominant and it has been for years. If I want effective medical care that’s the information my doctor needs, and “I’m biologically female” doesn’t tell them that.
Finally I just want to say that I’m extremely open to criticism from the intersex community. If you are intersex and you feel that this discussion uses you as a talking point or otherwise misrepresents you please let me know and I will happily change it or take it down.
You don’t even need to openly reply or message me if you don’t feel comfortable doing that, you can send me an anon ask to tell me the issues you have with it. I won’t publish the ask if you don’t want me to.
Realistically there are far more intersex people in the world than we know, because chromosomal testing doesn’t happen unless something seems “wrong” (in quotes because sometimes this just means that society considers it atypical regardless of whether it is harmful to the individuals health.). There are cis men walking around with ovaries and penises and testosterone dominant bodes that will never know, and that’s just one example.
#sex is not a binary and treating it that way is a great way to miss medically relevant information#intersex issues#trans issues#ask
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I'm curios on your thoughts on agab terms. If you're comfortable talking about it.
The way I see it used, in general, seems really exclusionary of intersex, trans, nonbinary, gnc, and anyone who doesn't fit into rigid binary ideals of male and female. (So cis people are excluded under this too, like say a cis woman with prominent body hair or a cis man who's short, for simplest examples.)
It's always about, like, agab bodies, agab genitals, agab hormones, agab organs, agab socialisation, agab chromasomes. And it just doesn't work. Like even considering agab in a more literal sense, like intersex people being assigned a sex without their say, that can only go so far. With current technology it's impossible to assign internal organs, chromosomes, and even with surgery and hrt, that still doesn't change the experience of being different, of getting such changes rather than always having them. But agab just groups everyone under the same category, and erases those differences.
And for trans people, I think it leads and perpetuates a lot of incorrect information as well, some of which gets into the territory of sexism too. Like the idea of agab bodies, when applied to trans people, it just makes a lot of assumptions about what genitals they have, what organs they have, what hormones they have, etc. which just isn't true. And for those who don't medically transition, which is fine, lumping them into the same category are cis people really erases their trans identity. Like for example, a non medically transitioning trans man isn't just exactly as a cis woman, or a non medically transitioning trans woman isn't just the same as a cis man. I feel like it's really erasing something there, and under agab they're just treated as the same.
And I feel like I see it used to be really weird about biology too, like "oh it's important for your doctor to know your agab!" For the most unrelated things. Like a flu is a flu, fixing that illness isn't about chromosomes, or agab, or whatever, but it's treated as if it is. I wonder if people who say things like that know what trans broken arm syndrome is, how trans people can have completely unrelated issues blamed and refused to treat because of them being trans. Of course, even for things where "sex matters", intersex people mess up that system. Or even just perisex people with some mild difference. Like women can be autistic do, but people think of it as a "biological sex" thing, and so say only men can be autistic. But that's just not the case right. Agab terms just remind me of that. Another pointless oh but sex matters thing. Except maybe worse, since I feel like people have started accepting sex can be changed (think trans surgeries), so they just replaced it with agab, which is forever assigned and can't be changed.
There is more to be said about it, how it just weirdly separates men and women as different species, and drags trans people into it with the whole forever assigned thing, but I've already typed too much haha /lh
So I mean I guess it's obvious I don't really like agab terms, but then I see people like you (or I guess actually you're the only one I've seen) who use it as self identifiers, instead of boxes to shove other people into, and are quite inclusive with it (like people can be transmasc/transfem regardless of agab sort of thing). So that does get me wondering about my distaste for agab language. I mean you seem to really identify with it, it'd be mean to say you can't use that word for yourself.
This turned out more negative than positive, but you seem to be using it pretty positively, so it got me wondering about your ideas with agab terms. /gen
Basically how I see them is that they can be self-identifiers and they can be useful terms, but only in certain situations
Like you said, agab shouldn't matter at all with things like going to the doctor for a cold or something completely unrelated (shoutout to the time I went to the doctor for a cough and he asked me if there was any chance that I could be pregnant like what 😭)
Afab and amab shouldn't be used like how tme and tma are, people are literally just using them as a different binary to put people into
Obviously I see my afabness as a very important part of my gender identity and other people don't and that's completely okay
And like what you said, people of the same agab can have different experiences
Like many afab people have more testosterone than other afab people
I see agab terms as terms that should only be brought up in conversations where it actually matters (such as this one, or someone stating their experiences as an amab person) or as self-identifiers
And they most definitely are exclusive of intersex people, since most of the time intersex people are assigned afab or amab
Like just because someone has F on their birth certificate doesn't mean they're gonna have the same experiences as someone else with F on their birth certificate yk?
And the fact that I'm the only person you've seen who uses agab as a self-identifier and is inclusive with it is kinda sad tbh 😭 like people should be able to identify as transmasc or transfem regardless of their agab
Transmasc and transfem just mean being trans and transitioning to masculinity/femininity, agab shouldn't matter and it should be up to the person on whether or not they wanna use those terms
Honestly people are just using agab terms as boxes to push people into, like it's literally just a new binary that's "inclusive"
And also like what you said about trans people with a certain agab, just because that's their agab doesn't mean they're gonna have every single afab trait if they're afab (and especially if they transition)
Just because both me and a cis woman are afab doesn't mean we're the same, I could have a dick but still be afab (I mean I don't but ykwim)
You basically just stated everything wrong with agab terms, how they're exclusionary and also rigid boxes to put us into that are labeled as "inclusive"
Just because some doctor took one look at our genitals and decided "yep, that's a female/male" doesn't mean that that should have to determine the rest of our lives
So basically, the only good way I see that agab terms can be used is for self-identifiers and in conversations or other situations where someone's agab would actually matter
Other than that, they're just a new exclusionary binary box that people are shoving us into
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hey guys! serious post rn.
if in ANYWAY, anything I say is offensive or ignorant or problematic, please PLEASE let me know so I can understand better and reevaluate everything, because I'm actually confused right now.
Where I live, they want to get rid of men’s and women’s washrooms all together.
Women’s and men’s washrooms are not allowed to be a thing anymore (at least in the near future)
I'm having trouble understanding how that solution makes any sort of sense or how it’s a good thing.
Like...as a woman, I don’t want to share a public washroom with a man.
I’ll admit, I'm not comfortable with that idea at all.
how does that discomfort make me a bigot or wrong?
I’m literally confused at this point.
Why are we erasing women’s places?
how did a conversation about including trans women in women’s places turn into a movement of getting rid of women’s places altogether? How does that help trans women? how does that help them feel included?
Why are we getting rid of women’s spaces, instead of just making them more inclusive?
what am I missing here? I feel like I've lost my mind, because how is a woman being “I'm not comfortable sharing a washroom with a biological man who identifies as a man” in the wrong?
how does this make sense?
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First of all I am sick of people appropriating AAVE, especially in an insulting way.
2) So these people have a problem when generally others find it tedious to use long or ludicrous terms (example- uterus owners, people with estrogen based endocrine system) instead of simply "women" to describe something only the female sex experiences in a patriarchal system.
But now it's "transparently transphobic" to even categorize social experiences by sex (idc if you believe sex is biologically immutable or just a social construct but if you believe there's no sexual inequality on basis of sex then you're just unbelievably stupid).
If you go through the notes you will see the brain rot there.
What actually pisses me off about this tho, and why I felt like ranting about it here, is that these people tokenize third gender culture and feminism of brown women ALL THE TIME.
(Despite them certainly knowing hijras are exclusively males and there is a history of the patriarchy's role in creating some of them but they somehow see it as gender liberation.)
If they actually found out how "afab" people (LBT- Lesbians, Bisexual women and Trans men) from our country's LGBT community form organizations only for those who are female because we recognize misogyny is sex based and how "amab" people hold more privilege, they will freak out.
They will freak out when they find out we recognize homophobia is sex based oppression too. Our laws literally specify people of same sex cannot marry regardless of gender identity, meaning a trans woman cannot marry a cis man and same for trans men and cis women unless said trans people undergo complete SRS. And the ability to pay for it is a privilege only middle and upper class same sex attracted people who haven't been shun out by their families enjoy.
It is literally necessary for us to organize on the basis of sex to get our rights.
Despite all this fucking bullshit, we're being asked to focus more on trans people than on "love is love". That India's LGBT activism is not trans inclusive enough (I hate these stupid white bootlicking libfems sm) because our activism doesn't look like the West's.
Ik op is not Indian but the amount of both Indian liberals who fall for this bs....although Indian radfems are not less guilty of indulging in bootlicking white people and Western activism, both responding in bad faith to each other while knowing absolutely NOTHING about their own country's history and activism regarding gender and sexuality. My views are still very different even according to Indian LGBT activists' beliefs, and yet I have more respect for them instead of fuckers like you who think online content creation is fighting for "queer rights".
Like girl, our activists were fighting even during a time when terms like "lesbian", "bisexual", "queer" etc were not known and used here. Ik for a fact you were introduced to gay and trans activism via Western media but I swear we have our own history and community and you do NOT need to nod your head to whatever these idiots say.
How can you believe this bullshit despite coming from a country where female infanticide occurs because daughters are seen as a "burden" to their fathers?
Postmodernism along with US cultural imperialism is a fucking disaster.
#I have come across hijras who believe they are privileged compared to women and that the female sex experience is different from theirs#and I don't even like how hijras talk about womanhood at all but they are genuinely so much less worse than trans people who follow Western#gender ideology#desi lgbt#lgbt india#desi feminism
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Just accidentally reblogged a "Gender critical" "radfem" post about "Why can't pro-trans people define "what is a woman" without being sexist, why it is so hard to say 'adult human female'." Because I genuinely thought it was a pro-trans take, and had to re-read it, to get what they were actually trying to say. Because yes, to me I am female, I am a woman. I would say that I fit the definition "Adult human female." We disagree so fully on the definitions of words that we would say the exact same things and mean something completely different.
I do not understand what is sexist about saying "A woman is someone who identifies as a woman" It is literally treating all biological sexes the same. It's more inclusive since it includes intersex people. Do they think it's sexist because I'm saying "Anyone can be a woman but only biological males can be men"? Because I don't think that. My definition of a man is "Someone who identifies as a man."
There are women born with penises, and I'm not even talking about people with XY chromosomes who transition, I'm talking about people with XX chromosomes, who have both the phenotype and genotype to look perfectly female, but for whatever reason they have a penis instead of a vagina. They grow up being seen as a girl, facing the same misogyny and social pressures as any other AFAB person in our society. Why would anyone tell them that they aren't a woman that their experience is invalid, that they don't belong to this group, because of a few cubic inches of flesh?
This same person was claiming that the term "Lesbian" is being destroyed by people claiming that lesbians can like people with penises. As far as I know, lesbian is defined as "A woman who is sexually attracted to other women." If the woman from the example above is sexually attracted to women, why would you try to exclude her from the spaces designed to protect and nurture people like her? Do you think she should be forced into male exclusive spaces? Do you really want to throw intersex people under the bus, just to be able to exclude trans women because they haven't been seen as women their whole lives?
I know that I have benefitted from male privilege for most of my life, and still do whenever I decide to go out en masc, since I pass as cis. I mostly likely still benefit from it somewhat when I go out en fem, since I don't pass as female yet. I'm trying my best to stop benefitting from that privilege whenever it is safe to do so. (I'll readily admit to trying to hold onto it when it comes to situations where it's a matter of safety. I hope you won't begrudge me that, I understand if you do, but that does make you an asshole. I wish I could give you that same safety) And it is my responsibility to support the voices of my sisters when I can on issues that don't affect me. To not talk over them, and to raise up their views and voices on abortion, mensuration and mensural products, birth control, the wage gap, and women's rights.
Please don't misconstrue this as me saying "I'm a woman so all lesbians have to be attracted to me." because they don't. Everyone is allowed to not be attracted to other people for any reason. It's not something we can control (or do you say that sexual attraction is a choice now?) If you're not attracted to penises specifically, that's fine, if you're not attracted to me specifically, that's fine. If you're not attracted to trans people specifically, I'd ask you to make sure it's not because of a misconception of us as a threat, or any less of our gender than cis people, but if not, that's perfectly fine. But womanhood is not defined solely by biology. No one is not a lesbian because they're attracted to me, and I'm not not a lesbian because of how I was born. Or do you really want to go back to the misogynistic idea that all a woman is is a vagina, a womb, and a pair of tits?
#transgender#trans#terf nonsense#lesbian#sapphic#misogyny#trans misogyny#lgbt#lgbtqia+#protect trans peopl#protect lgbt peopl
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Sigh… you assholes will never learn that wishing death on people you hate is absolutely stupid. No matter how much you say that you wish her misery and angst, JKR will always be known to all the world as an amazing woman who stood up for the rights of both genders, all races, all sexualities, and the validity of biological sex 🥰 You’ll never shut up about your shit opinion of her and you’ll harass her amazing supporters and HP fans. Bye bye you’re invalid 😘
Jesus Christ the terfs are after me now lmao
No one said that ‘biological sex’ was invalid, it very much is a real thing and is also much more flexible than you likely think, it’s driven by a wide range of biological factors (not JUST chromosomes as many will have you believe, but rather a myriad of different biological factors, such as hormones. See intersex ppl lmao).
Biological sex is of course a real thing, however when it comes to one’s own identity gender dysphoria is a phenomenon that occurs in many ppl and can only really be treated through transition, be it social, physical, etc. As someone who experiences a lot of gender dysphoria as well as clinical depression, I can tell you that before receiving any form of gender-affirming care my daily life was significantly harder to get through and my suicidal ideation considerably more frequent. (I would also like to note that many cisgender individuals also experience gender dysphoria related to not feeling like they comply to how ‘the idea man/woman’ looks or is, my god its common among gymbros, and very much tied to body dysmorphia that many of them face, a lot of the time.)
The concept of sex cannot be ‘erased’, as sex is real ofc?? Who told u it wasn’t?? (Though it does have much more nuance than many are lead to believe). But gender identity is a separate thing that is honestly more beneficial for you and everyone around you to respect.
JKR is also well-known for her inclusion of many antisemitic stereotypes in her books, movies, and carried through video game. This can be seen quite clearly through a basic examination of the characteristics of the ‘goblins’, with nasty caricatures of Jewish people echoing through. (My god just read about the ‘Goblin Rebellion’ in the game where you’re meant to suppress the uprising of the goblins from literal slave labour).
In terms of racism/classism in the HP series, I’d recommend giving this a read:
(She also very much falls into profiting off of gay rep without actually having any gay rep and very much using identity for profit - see the Dumbledore situation)
With her strange and continuous transphobic rants, and everything listed above, I know may be SUPER HARD to understand why I, queer, trans person (or really anyone with a shred of insight and empathy) may have a BIT of a problem with JKR.
Also, I do not wish death upon her, as I could never really find it in myself to wish harm upon anybody, however, I do wish that she would shut the fuck up.
Hope this helped =^}
#ALSO all her fascistic principals are a bit Not Good imo#i dont think this is well-written but I hope the point gets across#also I would like to note that outside of the jkr stuff I’m not too well read up on some of these issues so I apologise#for any indiscrepancies#but like point is she’s hurt a lot of ppl man#jk rowling#tw jk rowling#jkr#anti jkr
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[Context from other, very long reblogs: Hellsitegenetics has posted Intersex Positivity before, and was thusly marked Red by Shinigami Eyes, which is currently run by racist, intersexist trans-inclusive radical feminists, who instead of worshipping Biological Sex as an inherent trait of Evil, instead worship *gender* as an immuatable, inherent trait that makes you Evil and Oppressive if you're a man or nonbinary, because they view only women as good and pure, etc]
I was just gonna leave this as a reply, but nah, someone's really trying to argue you getting marked red
~didn't happen because screenshots are easy to fake, and sure it is more No True Scotsman than to believe perisex white women might fall into conservative, radical feminist mindsets!~
So anyways:
Looks like you are (potentially) Green again, but I can guarantee you it is ONLY because people are spam-marking you green by the dozens, OR because the developers are trying to do damage control.
Either way, folks, uninstall shinigami eyes and start filtering terf tags, and start rejecting biological essentialism and gender essentialism whenever you see it.
Just because you are a trans women does not make it impossible for you to fall into radical feminist rhetoric.
If you think that all men, including trans men are inherently oppressive, predatory, and evil 'because they're men and all men are dangerous attackers', and that all women, including trans women are divinely pure and incapable of being abusive or dangerous 'because they're women, and all women are harmless victims', you are already on that path and need to seriously rethink why you think gender essentialism is a good alternative to biological essentialism.
You can go to pages 10 and 11 on the Firefox Reviews to see some of the canned responses the developers left to reviewers:
Partial ID:
A series of twelve screenshots from the Shinigami Eyes firefox extension, each of them 1-star reviews where the person leaving the reviews explains that the extension is no longer accurate because anyone who talks about intersex, nonbinary, and trans men's rights or struggles is marked red, while people are still being marked green even if they are using extremely vile slurs against trans people, usually radical feminist trans women against trans men, nonbinary, and intersex folk being their targets.
Each of the reviews in the screenshot group above, no matter how long and detailed the review, or how short it is, received the exact same, copied and pasted response no matter what their review contained, which was:
"Transmasculine, intersex and xenogender people are welcome. Just don't use "AFAB trans woman", as it forces trans women to use "AMAB" or "male", aligning your goal with that of TERFs."
End partial ID
These next two images received unique, non-copied and pasted responses:
An anonymous reviewer said:
"The guidelines for this extension literally say that a slur targeted at trans people is "not enough" to mark as anti-trans. The developers have as of recently been exploiting this extension's purpose to mark subsets of the trans community they personally don't like by flagging them as anti-trans while a lot of pro-trans tagged accounts can say highly bigoted things about other groups of trans people such as trans men and non-binary people. This is no longer an actual add-on to help trans people online but a way for transphobes to pretend they are trans-friendly while harassing trans people"
And the Developers Response was: "Binary trans woman" has long been used in a disparaging way against trans women who transition, but was never a reason to mark someone red. I will not apply different standards to other controversial terms." This prompted the anonymous review to edit their review to include the following:
"edit: this developer reply is not only using rhethoric to attack non-binary people baselessly by mentioning "binary trans woman" is used against women who transition (usually transphobes wouldn't be in favor of non-binary people either so i dont understand why the claim of "long been used" was even attempted) but also avoiding the clear slur criticism by saying "controversial terms" instead As a trans woman these kind of attempts to come up with false reasons to muster community in-fighting by falsely tagging non-binary and trans masc people as transphobic while allowing the use of slurs against those identities (like "theyfab") does nothing but make me feel unsafe about the extension if it is being misused in this way to slander and enable harassment of my fellow members of the community" End ID
The next screenshot is a short review from an anonymous reviewer that reads:
"Used to be a great way to filter and block transphobes but now the moderators are flagging trans men and intersex people red for speaking on their own experiences with transphobia"
to which the Developer Response was: "Discussion of transandrophobia doesn't turn you red. It's using trans language to promote anti-trans values." End ID
The devs are literally spelling it out that they only care about white perisex trans women, and as far as they're concerned everyone else needs to shut up and worship them if we don't want to be seen as Vile Transmisogynists for talking about our own experiences or supporting other queer folk including intersex folk who already deal with a ton of flak from both cis and trans people.
This is the last developer response they left, 19 days ago:
ID:
a screenshot of the Shinigami Eyes firefox extension reviews, showing a review by ZoeOfShark, posted 19 days ago as of this post that reads: "This addon used to be my go-to recommendation for trans people online. Unfortunately, that is no longer the case. The moderators of the extension are not very well educated on trans issues. Any advocacy for intersex trans people, trans men, etc risks getting you flagged. Trans activists should not be marked red for advocating for their identity. We need intersectionality more than ever, but this addon is trying to break us apart. Whether this is incompetence by the moderators or intentional division is unclear." The developer responded with: "Appropriating trans women's language in a way that harms trans women is not okay. Intersectionality? The community is already divided by transmisogyny." This prompted ZoeofShark to edit their response to now include the following line: "Edit: the developer response proves my point more succinctly than I could. Intersex people advocating for their rights is not 'appropriating language'. Please google intersectionality." End ID]
Anyways. Uninstall Shinigami Eyes if you haven't already.
Go to your Tumblr settings and under filtered tags, start filtering:
terf safe
terfsafe
terfs please interact
terfs please touch
moids
radblr safe
radfem safe
along with any other variations you can think of.
You can search the above tags on tumblr, and find another half dozen variations from there to add to your filters, as well as pre-emptively block a bunch of terfs.
If you see a post from someone who's saying
"Trans women are the women of the trans community. Therefore, trans men are the men of the trans community. What's not clicking? Fight the patriarchy."
If you see this post, uncritically on your dash, that's a big red flag.
That should be an automatic block. If it's not obvious, this is a post where the OP is saying that all trans men are inherently abusive and predatory to trans women because they are men.
This is a direct example I saw from memory, where the main post was as vaguely worded as the above, and the OP clarified in the replies that yeah, they're saying trans men are oppressors and predatory 'because they're men. duh'
If you are queer, and especially if you are trans, you need to get rid of the mindset that someone's gender defines their entire life and personality and destiny.
You also need to get out of the mindset that a group of marginalized people talking about their experiences is not erasing your own. If someone says the phrase "binary privilege" they're not saying that all binary trans people never face any struggles whatsoever, they're talking about how nonbinary people face unique struggles that binary identities do not.
If someone refers to a group of people as "perisex trans people", they're not saying that perisex trans people have no struggles, they're talking about how intersex folk and trans intersex folk have unique struggles that perisex people do not.
If a trans man is describing his unique struggles to get healthcare as a trans man needing a pap smear, or an abortion, or birth control and being denied by their insurance or other medical providers because they are marked as 'male' on their identifications, that is NOT them 'speaking over trans women who can't get pregnant in the first place'.
You cannot deny that a group of trans people experiences transphobia, (""transmisogyny exempt"" or "TME" as the rad fems have started to say about trans men, nonbinary, and intersex folk) and you especially do not get to police people for coming up with words to describe their own oppression after you've routinely denied them the right to use existing terms.
You cannot complain and scream that "transandrophobia isn't real because androphobia doesn't exist, trans men are just experiencing transmisogyny and don't want to admit it" while those same trans men you're complaining about are being harassed endlessly for "not allowed to use the term transmisogyny because you're a man, you don't experience misogyny you're exempt from transmisogyny"
Anyways.
Too Long, Didn't Read: the current developers of Shinigami Eyes are radical feminists. They aren't TERFs with an 'e', but they are TIRFs with an 'i'. They believe that men are all inherently evil and predatory and physically superior to women, and because they are Trans Inclusive Radical Feminists, they automatically include trans women and trans men in their bigoted belief system. They believe trans men are men, and thus under radical feminism, trans men are all evil oppressors. They believe trans women are women, and thus, under radical feminism, trans women are all pure victims... Unless of course, you don't believe that all men are inherently evil, then you just get branded a "gender traitor" and face an endless barrage of harassment and get called a 'transmisogynist' for thinking transphobia against trans men is bad.
WHY ARE YOU MARKED RED ON SHINIGAMI, WTF DID U DO
i cant even post moths anymore. because of woke
#partial id#partially described images#long post#shinigami eyes#intersexism#transandrophobia#radical feminism#trans inclusive radical feminism
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Define Woman
So this is going to piss some people off, but frankly speaking I don’t give a damn.
The words woman and man were words used to define the sex of a person. However, we ended up with a situation where gender is no longer a reference to sex, but instead to some strange amorphous concept with no meaning whatsoever.
Gender in it’s original context was just and only “Man” and “Woman”. In their original meanings. Which was, “Man: Adult Human Male” and “Woman: Adult Human Female”. The reason these distinctions are important, is because gender originally had no difference from biological sex. Somehow however, because of bad actors like John Money (A child abuser, pedophile, and scientific hack) he both was the foundation of and the root cause of the normalization of terms like gender fluid, gender non conforming, and other stuff related to the term gender.
Basically this monster is the reason the term gender now means nothing at all. What’s worse, there are politicians and parents worried about their kids now, and are asking biologists, doctors, and scientists, to define what a woman is. Asking if only women can get pregnant. If only women can get periods, and resoundingly, a lot of them have bowed down to the new radical norm that is, “Trans women are women”.
And yes. It is a radical ideology. You might ask why. Simple answer? Because woman is SUPPOSED to mean as stated above, “Adult Human Female”. So by claiming that trans women are women, you are falsely claiming that trans women, who are biological men, are SOMEHOW able to ignore science, and just by the logic of claiming as such, have become biological women.
The dangers to this are vast but let me explain one of the biggest ones. I recently saw a doctor, though I question her credentials, say that “...trans people should be able to change their sex assigned at birth on their licenses...” First of all.....no one is “Assigned a sex at birth”. If you really believe that you should be stripped of any ability to practice medicine. Sex is observed at birth. Not assigned.
Secondly, men and women have biological differences. Not just sex organs. The types of medication and the amounts of those medications are VERY different. There’s a reason that drugs need to be tested on both men and women and women that are pregnant and may become pregnant. Because there was a lawsuit in early years that found that drugs were not universal, and affected men and women differently.
Imagine walking into the doctor, and they see your ID, and it says, “F” on the license. And you tell them, “I’m a woman, give me the drugs you would a woman”. And it injures you permanently or kills you. Congrats. You are a moron with no one to blame but yourself. Because fun fact about medications. They don’t just affect you differently based on your sex, but also your size, and other medications and health complications.
Though as things would have it, there are trans people that think the most inclusive thing is to NEVER be asked about if they are trans, and always HAVE to be treated like the “gender” they identify as. I’m sorry Susan, who used to be named Steve. Medication isn’t “Bigoted”. Biology isn’t “Bigoted”. Your entire life is based on a fabrication that you can be literally anything you want to be. We don’t live in a fantasy world though. Medications, much like biology is rooted in fact. And it doesn’t discriminate. And no amount of screaming into the wind, will change that.
And there are people that are going to find this post to be, “Transphobic”. Well sorry you are offended by reality but the ideology you are trying to push is dangerous. Why? Well aside from the medical risks in regards to medications, there are also the complications that come from transition surgery. Which frankly there are a lot of. Contrary to the popular activist pushed idea that surgeries, and hormones will have zero negative effects whatsoever.
It gets more rough when you realize how many people are not sterilized because rushed transitions. Wonder how many dead bodies will be enough from detransitioners, and people who don’t realize they are not trans, who need mental health help instead, but just get told to medically and chemically castrate themselves. How many have to die? How many lives need to be ruined before it’s too many.
The answer? For the people I’m directing this at, it will never be enough. Because most of you believe that a 2yo can decide they are trans, and should just get put on hormones immediately, and have their junk cut off. The sooner the better right? God forbit they are too young to know that on their own. God forbid parents are capable of abusing their kids. Like Jazz Jennings. Who’s mother is basically abusing “her” and using “her” for fame. And you might say, “Why are you putting her in quotes?”. Because I don’t think Jazz is a girl. I think that Jazz’s mother wanted a daughter, and decided to take advantage of how easy kids are to impress upon, and created a daughter. Said mother also on the Life of Jazz show mentioned that she has to wake Jazz up in the middle of the night to dilate. And they will personally take the dilator, lube it up, and wake Jazz up to use it. Even when Jazz doesn’t want to.
And said, “Oh no, when Jazz goes to college, I better not find out that they are not dilating themselves, she’s going to strangle Jazz”. Sure call it humor. I see it as a, Jazz better not take this dream of having a daughter with a fake vagina away from me”. No normal human talks like that. She basically got famous for transitioning her 2 yo and she is loving the attention.
What kills me the most though is the attempt to change what woman means. So what did they change it to in order to be more “inclusive”? “Woman: An adult human female, or a person who otherwise identifies as a woman”.......Which is a funny as hell definition, because it cites itself in the definition. Meaning you get caught in an endless loop of what the word means, which is nothing since it can’t have a meaning while citing itself. What’s worse though is that the definition also doesn’t renounce it’s association with biological sex. Which is more or less criminal in my opinion. Because if “woman” is only a reference to “gender” then it should remove it’s association with biological sex fully. And I’ll just start calling everyone male or female.
Right up until they decide that they need to change the definition of Female to something it’s not. Though I will admit, it’s going to be comical watching feminist loose their shit when they start losing rights because when words change definitions, so to do laws.
So again. Define woman.
And before someone tries to imagine this whole rant is because, “You clearly hate trans people”, realize what I want is less harm in the world. Less harm means NOT chemically castrating kids. Less harm means not cutting off body parts of kids who are not even old enough to consent to the consequences of sex, much less permanently cutting parts of their bodies, and chemically stunting their growth.
Pretty sure if most of the suicides of trans people were looked into, it wouldn’t be because of lack of acceptance. It would be lack of proper mental and emotional health. It would be the fact that rather than addressing the mental health of a person we just rush them to transition.
The last point I will make is this. Once upon a time, you could be a guy or a girl, and rather than being taught from childhood to hate yourself, we just told guys, hey if you want to wear a dress, wear a dress. We might think you are gay, but ya know, maybe you just want to wear dresses. We told girls, hey if you want to wear a suit or jeans, you can do that. We might think you are a lesbian, but maybe you just like looking more masculine. Who knows. It was kind of a given for a number of years that you didn’t have to conform to gendered norms. Hell, in the 90′s girls started wearing baggy clothing in mass. That didn’t make them not women. It just means they wanted to dress comfortable, or act more masculine in general.
Now a days, if the wrong people, see that, they will go out of their way to convince that girl, that she is NOT in fact a girl but a boy in a girls body. I consider that to be harm. Because what happens when that girl is peer pressured and led into believing she IS a boy. Then as soon as she transitions all of a sudden, her life gets a lot harder. She is stuck on chemicals for years, and might have a number of medical issue crop due to cross sex hormones or the surgeries done to the body not lasting. Her life goes from however hard it might have been, to 100x harder, which she won’t be prepared for, because no one is going to tell her what all is going to happen. And no one except people not following this narrative, are going to tell her the truth about the risks. No one except people that are not following this narrative are going to tell the person to go to a NON affirming therapist before they make any medical choices.
I can’t count the number of people I’ve seen share stuff like off market CSH’s and blockers to minors. I can’t count the number of people I’ve seen share information on shrinks that will just give you a note so you can start hormones SAME DAY. And that’s scary to me that the people harmed the most by this are kids and those whom are autistic. And when they eventually do off themselves, the people who suggested all of that will go, “IT”S NOT MY FAULT! MAYBE IF SOCIETY WORSHIPED US THIS WOULDN”T HAPPEN!”. It’s sad but this really is a sick form of eugenics. And the people falling for it will end up never able to have kids or in fully developed bodies. And I feel bad for them. *sigh* This is a lot longer than I wanted it to be. Maybe I’ll turn it into a video with just audio and repost later. Just stay safe out there.
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