#lesbian seperatism

[demonpoetlilith]

musings on baeddelism

i don't agree with the common critique of baeddelism, as it relies on a distorted conception of the ideology. for simplicity's sake, let's just define baeddelism as the fusion of transfeminism and radical feminism, which believes transmisogyny is the apex of patriarchy, as it's the clearest shared target between misogyny & queerphobia. most critiques of it come from what's referred to as TMRAs (also transphobic cis women who're upset about not being the center of the world, but ignoring them). the argument begins as the baeddel suggests trans men are agents of misogyny (patriarchy of course fundamentally shapes standards of manhood), who're a sugar-coated bullet, due to rhetoric of experience with misogyny preventing repetition, this paired with a strong distaste for the very relatively privileged cis mainstream feminism leads many leads many baeddels to also dislike most cis women as. this leads TMRAs to the very superficial & bad faith suggestion that we (do keep in mind "baeddel" is a reclaimed slur, which they really shouldn't be using in their tirades) are reskinned TERFs, due to believing there's a bad gender, alternatively TMRAs make the even more absurd suggestion that baeddels believe in AFAB privilege & general AMAB oppression. i think baeddelism's current ebb unfortunate, as it's the highest development of the classical radical feminism's (the era before it was co-opted by the far right) social-constructivism

[lesbianerin]

i wish every woman could experience being in a true female only space at least once. a space away from men in a secluded area. cooking, eating, dancing, creating, swimming, existing only among women. no need for make up, clothing that’s not comfortable and practical, no bras, no shaving, no artificial femininity. if you wanna walk around naked you can be, no one’s gonna stare at you, no fear of a man sitting in the bush filming or masturbating. no body shaming or pointing out any part of your body. no pressure to look perfect. no need to look perfect. just existing and being enough, living without fear and in harmony with our bodies and nature.

[mikasasrippedtoenail]

Calling Lesbians' attraction to vaginas a mere genital "preference" erases the sheer violence behind corrective rape of millions of sapphic women. I do not just "dislike" dick, I am physically incapable of being attracted to it. My allure to the female genitilia is not a choice, it's my biological reality. Dismissal of same-sex attraction as a choice reinforces the homophobic ideology that attractions can be altered and also paves the way for discrimination. One cannot opt out of their sexuality, they are always born with it.

[autismhotpot]

I DONt KNOW WHO NEEDS TO FUCKINg HEAR THIS

BUT JOAN OF ARC HAS NEVER BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE NON-BINARY

SHES THE OPTIMUS PRIME OF THE FEMALE CLASS, DONT YOU FUCKING DARE TAKE AWAY OUR ONE AND ONLY TRUE PROPHET

[blackfempilled]

the way men talk about women they find unattractive is both enraging and idiotic.

she doesn’t look like a man because of something that she naturally has. a muscular woman doesn’t look like a man because men don’t own being burly. if it can grow naturally on a woman’s body then it’s not a man thing. if she can obtain it naturally then it’s not a man thing.

women look like that. they can look like that. men are just so used to seeing women bald and bleached and weak. women can be hairy and brawny. if we lived in the wild without current technology most women would look like that. men just aren’t attracted to women’s natural state. they want warm and breathing sex toys built like hentai anime girls. it’s honestly pathetic how heterosexual men only like women when they’re dolled up and artificial.

[selkie-on-land]

Exhibit n°87359 that gays aren't allies. First of all they are MEN 💀

[geoffrey]

the seperation of lesbians and gay men is a travesty. "why are there so many historic gay bars and only like a handful of lesbian bars in the whole country" why are being gay and lesbian not the same thing in this context. you dont need to fuck everyone at the bar and it is a problem that needs to be addressed if these spaces arent mutually hospitable. and this applies to most gay/lesbian spaces imo

[phoneticsubstance]

It is so fucking sad to me that so many queers I've met and see simply Do Not Realize that they use TERF talking points.

[mavkarants]

I'm sick and tired of bisexual and hetero women making lesbians out to be the bad guys when it comes to female seperatism. It is literally part of the damn movement. Sorry you have issues following or even understanding your own movement, but I will not apologize for pointing that shit out.

There are hundreds of hetero and bi women in other countries who can and do see past their own desires for the sake of the movement that they truly believe in.

And jesus stop comparing dating your own oppressor to lesbians dating other women. Like I dunno if you have noticed but lesbians don't date men, of course female seperatism is gunna look different for lesbians. Maybe it is even easier for us. But lesbians not being able to date each other in the past is NOT the same as osa women being asked not to date their own damn oppressor! Are you gyns even ducking hearing yourself???

Honestly it feels like most "radfem" gyns aren't even radfem. When they are confronted with their own shit they react just like TRA's & TQ+ & extreme right wingers.

I don't care what anyone says. I just don't. My lesbian friends always have something to show when the topic of lesbophobia in radfem spaces comes up. Always. I do too. I see this shit all the time myself. I will hope radblr is different but I'm not getting my hopes up.

If you wanna worship dick, go and do that. But don't pretend like you are a full on hardcore radfem when real hardcore radfems leave their dick worshipping ways behind them, no matter how much they wanna worship dick. It's not like we can stop you.

Radical feminism is a way of life, an ideology. Ideals to structure your life after. Female seperatism is one of them.

No one said you have to follow all the ideas of radical feminism but female seperatism is a pretty ducking big one. Calling it oppression is lunacy and complaining when someone brings it up is pretty ducking stupid.

The way osa women cry wolf... Smh. Especially considering that osa women are the ones who came up with the whole "female separatism" shit... Right during the time when they excluded lesbians from the movement... Guess some things never change.

[lesbianerin]

the male brain can’t comprehend the wonders and joys of a womyns land

[satedsaint]

Combahee River Collective on lesbian seperatism

[autismhotpot]

This is the type of society radical feminists should strive towards. We should make incels actually be right about how oppressed they are:

[chaos-in-one]

Every time I see words like "fakebian" and "transtrender" I have to fight so many urges to start a fight

Any terms like that but those two especially give me the ick as someone whose both trans (esp since I'm genderfluid bc nonbinary people get targeted w that word a lot) and a lesbian

[birdnormal]

"identity is complex and people can identify with labels that don't make sense to you" and "lesbian as a specific term that excludes attraction to men matters to many lesbians" can both coexist I think. i don't want lesbian to be an umbrella term but i also don't want to like attack bi lesbians who are also just surviving in a complicated world. my lesbianism will always be a relief for me in that I no longer had to consider men as being in my options and the term lesbian will always mean that relief for me is all. we have different needs from the terms.

(t/-erfs dni, nonbinary is included in every orientation, etc)

[selkie-on-land]

how are you so great seriously 🥺

I genuinely don't know. 🥺🤷‍♀️

Can I ask you what makes me so great from your perspective? I'm curious. ☺️

Thank you 🥹🫶 I guess, if you value what I am, what I share and talk about, that you are great too.

[autismhotpot]

How males see me while im minding my business in the gym

u can lift it bunny