#tw lesbophobia

[frenzyarts]

I hate the way transphobes try to use lesbians to justify their transphobia (the poor helpless lesbians are being preyed on by men!!)

I hate that when a queer woman attracts a lot of negative attention, people throw masc lesbians under the bus (calling JoJo Siwa a masc lesbian even though she’s not masc and has said she doesn’t like the word lesbian and has said she’s pansexual)

I hate that when lesbians get popular for a positive reason, people try to insist they aren’t lesbians (yes, Reneé Rapp used to identify as bisexual, but she has since come out as lesbian. Ditto Chappell Roan. Chappell literally has multiple lesbian flag outfits.)

Everyone needs to be nice to lesbians please and thank you!!!

I’m not gonna do the thing where I say “nonlesbians need to reblog this!” Or whatever because that kinda thing bothers me, but I will ask you to look inside your heart and kill the lesbophobia that lives within it

***this post is about lesbians only, do not derail***

[armoralor]

WolfWren featuring real comments from the fandom. It's okay to have different opinions on fiction, but maybe let's all remember there are actual real life people having to read this shit daily

[pinkpinkmermayyy]

Sometimes I feel like I’m just saying a simple fact, for example 2 + 2 =4, but somehow people start coming up with new complex solutions being like “well actually you shouldn’t police the equation” or “well math doesn’t actually exist so it can be anything” or some other bs like THATS A FUCKING FACT!! 2 + 2 =4!!!! I genuinely feel like I’m losing my god damn mind because some people are dismissing a BASIC FACT for their rocket science difficulty light yagami gymnastics logic that has no reason to exist

@aishabellasbigblogofeverything @punkeropercyjackson

TERFS/RADFEMS DNI AND FUCK OFF

[honeylemony]

Mourning for the lesbian that was one of Neil Gaimans victims. I'm so sorry that happened to you. You didn't deserve that.

[invisible-pink-toast]

“The woman dies.

She dies to provide a plot twist. She dies to develop the narrative. She dies for cathartic effect. She dies because no one could think of what else to do with her. Dies because there weren’t any better story ideas around. Dies because her death was the very best idea that anyone could come up with.

‘I’ve got it! Let’s kill her off!’

‘Yes! Her death will solve everything!’

‘Okay! Let’s hit the pub!’

And so, the woman dies. The woman dies so the man can be sad about it. The woman dies so the man can suffer. She dies to give him a destiny. Dies so he can fall to the dark side. Dies so he can lament her death. As he stands there, brimming with grief, brimming with life, the woman lies there in silence. The woman dies for him. We watch it happen. We read about it happening. We come to know it well.”

- The Woman Dies by Aoko Matsuda (translated by Polly Barton)

[lelianasbong]

apparently the ""bisexual"" sera mod is the 4th most popular dai companion mod on nexus

ONE. ROMANCEABLE LESBIAN. IN THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE and everyone and their dad showed up like hell yeah for meeee :))) instead of being normal and not playing as a man to pursue the ONE. ROMANCEABLE LESBIAN. IN THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE they chose to embrace erasure and assault my retinas with nightmare screenshots

[kissingwomenat3pm]

What tf is a cis guy lesbian. What has our community come to? Conversion therapy is back but under a different label and it's all because of y'all.

Me when i forget that bigender ppl whos genders are both cis man and woman at the same time exist, me when i forget that a multigender person can also be a cis man, me when i forget that a lot of ppl that at first identify as cis men and relate to lesbianism can then later realise they're not completely cis, me when i disregard that lesbians can have complicated relationships with their genders and/or orientations and that it's none of anyone's business what labels they choose but theirs, and that people using unusual labels in good faith is not the reason why bigotry exists.

Bigots do not care how we are queer, but that we are queer, they want to get rid of us all. Nor are bigots even aware of these niche labels half of the time to begin with.

When a cishet guy harasses a lesbian by saying stuff like "im a lesbian too", that is not identifying in good faith, that guy doesnt actually use that label in general, and is 99.99% not aware queer cis guy lesbians are even a thing, nor does he care. Even if we "didnt allow" that label, it literally wouldn't matter to any bigot, it'd only affect queer people w complicated genders, because those are the people actually using it and in need of community.

I have no idea what conversion therapy has to do with this.

Gotta love the blaming queer ppl that they personally dont understand for a deadly practice bigots still force onto queer ppl to this day though.

[princealberich]

Transphobia is almost always rooted in misogyny.

Be it toward trans women or trans men, the talking points always come back down to the same argument: Women are defenseless, and cannot make decisions about themselves.

Let's break that down!

Obviously, transphobes (and TERFs) focus primarily on Transfem people. In media, it's trans women that are the butt of the joke, and if you spend even a second in Transphobia-related spaces you'll notice the overwhelming difference between discussion of transfem and transmasc individuals.

The discussion boils down to the same point: Trans women are men, and therefore, they are predators. To cis men, it is because they are "tricking" them. To cis women, it is because they're, simply put, 'still men'. This is indicative of two things:

On the side of cis men, women are an object. Misogyny.

On the side of cis women, women are victims of men. Misogyny.

To explain that last point further- It's true that women face massive oppression in the patriarchy, but by simply assuming that a woman is inherently a victim, it reinforces a misogynistic standard that women will always be victims, and that this gap in power is not a symptom of a misogynistic society, but simply a fact of life. Hence... Internalized misogyny.

So... Why aren't trans men talked about as much in these spaces?

It's because the existence of transgender men directly opposes the transphobic rhetoric. If transfem are secretly predators trying to prey on women, what are trans men? Are they women trying to prey on men? No, that can't be right- Because in a transphobe's view, these are still women, and women are inherently the victim.

Thus, the next argument is born: Trans men are delusional women that are victims of a patriarchal society, and need rescuing.

Think about that for a second. If you're a transphobic person reading this, or even someone just questioning it, I just want you to think about the implications of that sentence.

Do you believe that women are incapable of making decisions for themselves? Do you believe that a woman who goes against the greater society's idea of a woman is delusional and must be fixed?

See, we're quickly slipping into extremely dangerous territory here. It leads into lesbophobia, and the idea that a woman must also be with a man, and if she's not? She just needs to be protected and shown the truth.

Even disregarding sexuality and identity entirely, we come into the topical snare of abortion rights. Are women who want abortions delusional? After all, bringing this back to the original point- If women aren't capable of making decisions about their own bodies, about transitioning (a "life-altering, permanent decision"), then... Surely they also can't choose to have an abortion, or tattoos, or piercings, or any other permanent decisions.

This is misogyny.

A lack of bodily autonomy is a problem of the patriarchy. Dismantling the patriarchy is to embrace bodily autonomy, and yes, that includes for transgender people.

I've talked about the TERF persppective here a fair bit, so for fairness sake I want to quickly go into the viewpoints of a transphobic man to further the point that transphobia is rooted in misogyny.

The talking points of cis men on trans men are mostly physical objectification. Some believe that trans men are forsaking a woman's duty, and boil him down to his intimate parts- This is misogyny, in believing that a woman's only purpose is to please men.

Others are emasculated, clearly upset by the transformation that makes them feel inferior, and pulls into question their own masculinity. This is, surprisingly... Also misogyny. It is a direct influence of the patriarchy- That women must be small and meek, and men must be big and strong. A dismantling of that ideology would make a man, who believes in it, lash out. Thus, this is misogyny.

Misogyny is at the root of almost every transphobic talking point. Misogyny, misinformation, and religious extremism.

TERF ideology is not about protecting women, it is about hating men, even if that means trampling over their own in the process. It is not feminism, it's just transphobia.

To address transphobia, we must address misogyny, and to depower misogyny, we must embrace transgender people.

[alyceinwonderland777]

⚠️TW⚠️: Misogyny, biphobia, lesbophobia, transphobia, racism, and rape mention

70% of radical feminists be like 🤡:

There would be many other things to say, but otherwise this post would become lengthy. These "memes" I've made are based on personal experiences I've had with some radical feminists. Fortunately I have been lucky enough to meet radical feminists who are decent human beings, but this does not change the fact that the radfem community has a serious problem of misogyny, racism, transphobia, biphobia, lesbophobia (in many cases internalized) and "conversion therapy jokes" about bisexual women.

Obviously, as I've said several times, not all radfems are like this, but somehow every time a self-proclaimed feminist acts like this, it very often turns out that she's a radfem.

So if you are a radfem but you don't act in the ways described by the memes this post is not about you, while if you are a radfem and you feel attacked then it means that this post is about you.

Cope and seethe.

Bye. ♥️✨️

[siberianforrestafterdark]

Can I be real with u guys for a moment re: the Xiaohongshu/Rednote migration

Firstly let me say the good points. I love how bipoc users are educating the Chinese people about racial issues in America. I love how queer people are steadfast and so tough and strong in facing queerphobia. I love how Chinese people and American people are doing a culture exchange and understanding each other more. I got into a transmasc group chat and it has been so nice to chat with them.

HOWEVER it has been a generally frustrating experience for me on Xiaohongshu recently. I hate seeing the blatant ignorant display from Han Chinese about what people from minority ethnicities go through. I hate how they say "There is no skin color based discrimination in China" when I've seen videos of blasian kids talking about being bullied and I know what the Black diaspora in Guangzhou go through and I've seen the slurs and racism on bilibili (I'm Han Chinese so I can't really tell you the specifics, sorry). I hate seeing Chinese gold-star lesbians saying rednote is "The Most Queer Friendly App" while I (transgender) had to see their blatant transphobia before this. I hate how people say "There are no queer hate crimes" when there was literally a lesbian couple that was beaten to death in HongKong recently!!! I also know if you get read as male while being feminine you go through a lot of hardship in China, a trans woman literally wrote about her horrendous experiences in employment and there was another trans woman who had to literally sue her employers for firing her because she used the women's bathroom!!! The general culture on Xiaohongshu or Rednote was known for being elitist and classicist among Chinese people and being transphobic for queer Chinese people for a long time (before this)!!!

I by no means am against the new wave of American and global users, but just be mindful, okay? We all have our cultural baggage, and internet culture is a reflection and part of that!

[scuderiabutch]

Please, read

A couple of days ago I received the first message from this profile, I personally dgaf bc at my fossil age things like this don't bother me but I think there are a lot of younger lesbians who could be hurt by receiving messages like these, so please if that's you: BLOCK @/perfectnifhtmareearthquake

[kavalyera]

“vivienne (my very explicitly -> -> LESBIAN <- <- oc) should have a bf hehe” SHUT THEFUCKEUPPPPPP YOU FUCKSING BITCHHH

[pinkpinkmermayyy]

Tumblr Adults ™ are so annoying they’re all like “I love cursing to look cooler and more punk even though I don’t know what that means and only like the AeStHeTiC and I love dunking on those stoopid kids for being pUrItEeNs (saying pedophilia is bad) and I loooove being a man defender and protecting them from the haggard evil Women and dykes while being a quirky “genderfuck ™” and being the ugliest person to ever exist 🤪” like you do realize no one actually likes you in real life right. They’re all just tolerating you if they haven’t blatantly told you already that they hate you.

@punkeropercyjackson (bc i need to u rant to u about how annoying i find these ppl)

[gnometa233]

Im very glad people are actually taking the new Neil gaimen allegations seriously. Im also glad that the conversations surrounding scientology and how disgusting it is are also being brought up (i highly reccomend Leah Remini's docuseries about scientology. Her and Mike Rinder (who recently passed away) go really into depth about how disgusting that cult is).

WITH THAT BEING SAID the one thing I'm very sad to see not be discussed is the lesbophobia. Gaiman disregarding a lesbian's sexual orientation and doing whatever he wants with her because he's powerful and feels ownership over her is disgusting. Especially since Palmer is a bisexual woman and allowed her husband to do this. Especially since Gaiman championed himself as being pro Lgbtq+. It's disgusting

I'm not discrediting or ignoring the other victims. It's still wrong regardless of sexual orientation, and i hope those women find peace and justice. However, it's just sad that most people gloss over this other aspect so casually.

[strawberrylipscrub]

inanimate insanity and its lesbian queerbait problem: a rant

(made by a lesbian)

TW: DISCUSSIONS OF LESBOPHOBIA, MYSOGINY, AND TOXIC RELATIONSHIPS

okay, I have been really wanting to get this off my chest for a very long time since I joined the ii fandom and watched s2 and s3.

when watching and analysing everything, something really did not sit right with me, and that is the treatment of sapphic ships in the show. sapphic relationships in the show are treated very differently compared to gay and hetero relationship

a relationship for a hetero couple in the show can usually go like this:

the two characters, male and female meet for the first time -> they start to interact frequently and start to form a "bond" -> halfway through the series, something happens between them, causing their relationship to fall apart -> but a few episodes later, they make up, and all is well -> fanbase really likes ship -> creators make it canon

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however, a relationship for a sapphic couple in the show goes a little something like this:

the two characters, both female, meet for the first time -> they start to interact frequently and start to form a "bond" -> girl 1 starts to visibly show romantic feelings towards girl 2 -> a few episodes in, girl 2 does something "toxic" or "mean" towards girl 1, and their relationship falls apart and it is like that for the rest of the show -> fanbase deems it as "toxic" -> creators don't even give the ship a second chance

or alternatively:

two characters, both female, start interacting for one or two episodes -> they seem really into one another -> they never have a single interaction ever again after that

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I could go on for ages about more examples of this, there are so many sapphic relationships in the show that had so much potential

tacomic had so much potential

soapmic had so much potential

cabtube had so much potential

clovercab had so much potential

candlecab had so much potential

but yet, sapphic relationships in the show are either doomed by the narrative or demonised the fuck out of

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tl;dr: they're have been many sapphic ships in inanimate insanity that had so much potential but they are all doomed by the narrative

[broodingnightgoddess]

So there's an online newspaper article in my country that is claiming that political lesbians are lesbians, and on Lesbian Visibility Week AND day mind you.

As "oh women are tired from men and they *choose* to be with other women instead, they're lesbians :)"

No, fuck off, we aren't a fad, a choice, a trend, we aren't lesbians because we tired of men and choose to not date them, we are lesbians because not being attracted to men is something we do naturally! Non-lesbians, stop trying to equate lesbian to a choice and much less framing it as a "slay queen" moment.

TERFs and bi lesbians DNI you're the kind of people this post is directed at after het women.