#im a yapper. sorry.

[penguin--person]

love bullet theory - kanna knew koharu before she died

an explosion happens after hiroshi confesses to asaka. kannas weapon is grenades + asaka gets heart pupils right after the explosion, and (presumably) agrees to go out with hiroshi.

its possible that this could have been a one time experience, but koharus classmates often remark how good she is at matchmaking people, how they always go out together. this makes me think that kanna noticed that koharu had a knack for this, and started 'shooting' the people that she matched. she also let koharu decide who hina would end up with at the end of chapter 1, which she might have done because shes seen her match people up before... idk !!

2. this girl in chapter 1 thats looking at the former confession play out look a lot like kanna, i think! the hairstyles very similar, and theyre both ':3'. its possible that shes in her human disguise watching over koharu.

3. this might just be a bit of a stretch, but kanna knew koharus name before she could introduce herself. kanna said that she made a vow to become koharus mentor, which could have included the goddess of love giving her info on her, but idk how likely that is. she could have found out about koharus name through the target data info, too, which is why this might be a stretch...

4. i think itd be cool

[soosoosoup]

I can see poppy and branch spending time together while John is teaching him

Treasure planet au: making friends :)

[iangallagherisadeadman]

The funny thing about this playlist is that Ian is my favorite character but this was the hardest of all playlists to make. Constantly I was adding a song and then removing it because it just didn't feel right, it wasn't Ian enough. All other playlists felt very in character and this one I just couldn't get right, I was never satisfied.

For exemple, he was just a kid being groomed but at the same time he didn't feel like some kind of innocent defenseless child, he thought he was in control. Hence, "Suck My Kiss". This song is very sexy, flirty, aggressive, imposing, intense. That's the vibe I wanted to go with Ian.

Also, he first saw Kash as some kind of victim in the sense that Kash is gay, so by his logic, it justifies what he does to Linda, why he lies and cheats, and that's the way I wanted to portray Ian. All about him is kind of in between and thats what I wanted. “Kerosene” is that for me. Not love but wanting to be loved, wanting to be seen, wanting to be something to someone, putting himself in someone else's pocket to feel belonged, accepting the circumstances cause it feels like the only way to obtain what he wants. Important: it's not passion. It's not real. There's no fire but just a flame, and so he inflates it with kerosene. That is, until Mick comes and then Ian sees what's real fire.

Then there's a series Mickey Milkovich songs: “Sweet Dreams, TN”, perfect puppy first love song to my boy Ian Gallagher, just yearning for Mickey constantly throughout S1 and S2. "Stop The World I Wanna Get Off With You" + "We Might Even Be Falling In Love" makes me think of Ian visiting Mick in juvie S1E1. "Lonely Boy" would be for me getting back to Mickey S2 without thinking twice cause he's madly in love and seeing Mickey leaving him easily by throwing himself at juvie again. When I listen to “Hot Knife” I think about S3 gallavich being little menaces beating Ned and robbing his wife and also their first kiss. "Stay On Your Mind" for me is aftermatch S3E6 cause Mick became distant and Ian wants him to be thinking of him. "Tighten Up” I wanted it to be post-S3E6 trying to talk to Mickey and that being the trigger for his bipolar (last verse part "living just to be going/going just to be sane/all the while without knowing/such a shame"). “Lilac Wine” is S3E11 wedding day, getting drunk and being miserable.

“Runaway” should be S3E12 Ian joining the army; “Seven Nation Army” is him joining + helicopter + turning back to Chicago. “Townie” + "New Body Rhumba" + “Art Deco” is S4 impulsive, manic, induced in drugs, club dancer Ian. “Disco” would be S4E8's gallavich club big kiss scene; “Closet Lunatic” would be S4's bipolar Ian cause no one is admitting something wrong with him.

“Totally Wired” would be S5 first half, living with Mickey; “Lithium” + “Territorial Pissings” is S5E6 Yev's kidnap. “Where Is My Mind?” is about being caught by the cops and S5E7 being put in the mental hospital. “Girl, You Have No Faith in Medicine” + “Kill the Medicine Man” is him refusing treatment. “The Bourne Identity” is S5E8 when Mickey left and Debbie had to go get him. “Ultraviolence” is the S5E10 docks scene when they fight and get drunk and kiss and fuck before Ian gets caught because of Sammi.

“Masterpiece” + "Dosed" is S5E11-12 him escaping with Monica and noticing what they have in common but also that they're completely different, seeing the life she lives because of the bipolar and the lack of meds and realizing that's not who he is and that's not how he wants to live. "Would?" + "Fire Water" + “WDYWFM?” + “Let Me Go” are S5E12 gallavich break up songs.

"Crack Baby” + “I Have No Hometown” is S6E1-3 depressive Ian fase. “Wiped Out!” is S6E3 almost suicide attempt. “Drift” + "Y" + “Mário de Andrade/Selvagem" is S6/S7 beginning again and becoming an EMT Ian. It's all about griefing the life he used to have and aspired, accepting his reality and gaining perspective.

“New Person Same Old Mistake” + “Gotta Get Away” + "So Real” are all S7E10-11 gallavich songs. “Never as Tired as When I'm Waking Up” is S7E12 leaving the Mexico border and coming home and everything sucks and Monica's dead, which is "Mr. Grieves" and the beggining of his new maniac epiosde.

Then my favorite songs! “American Jesus” + “Jesus Lived in a Motel Room” + “Bombtrack” are the perfect S8 Gay Jesus songs to me. While "Prison Décor" is S9E1 Ian's manic first round at jail cause of Gay Jesus and not wanting Fiona to bail him out,"Pink + White" is his S9E6 reunion with Mickey. "Morning Theft" is a love letter about all he and Mickey had to go through and all the breakups to finally be back together.

"Is It True" is S10E8 Ian breaking Mickey's heart (again lol) with the whole marriage thing. “Homissexual” is Mickey with Byron; “Maybe” + “Lover, You Should've Come Over" is him missing Mickey and wanting to marry him. At last, “Soldier of Love” and “Real Love Baby” are the final, happy ending, married until death takes them apart gallavich finale he deserves.

For days I've been feeling my body cold and dead To warn me That I struggle like if I'm crazy and a lot it's few Is it what it is falling in love? For days, I've been feeling my body cold and hollow I let it pass And I forget all the time and little by little I feel another one on my place — Mário de Andrade / Selvagem, Boogarins

#!: ☆ ian gallagher's moodboard ; more shameless playlists

[dnpbeats]

preshow from yesterday!! :)

[mintypsii]

not a part 2, but here's a prequel to this sanuso comic I did last month !!! (takes place the night before ,, technically after the first three panels)

[blondwhxrewrites]

I'm gonna be honest here—

I think Mattheo would be fully against being called daddy but if you ever call him daddy once it's like something in his soul is awakened and now he's trying to get you to call him dad, daddy, papa, literally anything because his daddy issues are just that bad

Ah shit and it gets so much worse if he ever finds out what subspace is, like he's never wanted to take care of someone before but now he literally just wants you to be thoughtless and all dependent on him

[royall-ass]

this. this might just be paul and richie to me.

[speakofthedebbie]

With every fic read I stray further and further from God.

[nato-obenkrieger]

i am a man of my word MORE SLUSHPUPPIESna

[olivegardenhunter]

one thing that I find really really interesting is that in practically every scene where it's just jiraiya and tsunade alone, kishimoto very deliberately draws at least a panel of the two of them being completely silent in each other's companies, even refusing to look at each other.

when jiraiya got drinks with tsunade in og

when he got drinks with her before he left. notice that neither of them are making any eye contact, refusing to look at each other.

the iconic bench scene ofc

why this is important to me is cause I think it's an excellent way on kishi's part to show the dynamic and history between the two of them (and the sannin as a whole too). ((note this isn't a jiratsu post))

the few scenes we get of the two of them talking alone, you always get the impression that there's a secondary, entirely silent conversation going on in the background that only the two of them even know about. a conversation about all the things they cannot say. and he conveys that so well in these deliberate panels. you can SEE in their expressions, in the things that they do say when they choose to break the silence. there's so much between them, so much they yearn to say. and the weight of all of that, the depth of those feelings and emotions, is ultimately what makes them not say anything at all.

because you've known each other since you were SIX years old, you fought WARS together, this is a person you'd put your life on the line for without a second of hesitation. yet. there is a 20 year gap. you haven't spoken with each other for as long as you grew up together too. they've lived an entire lifetime together, but then an entire equally as long lifetime apart. they're the same person they've always been but yet... you can't really recognise the person in front of you. they both can see that they've become shells of the people they used to be. you both have gone through so much, and you know the the other person knows this. you know it so intimately, what things you can say, what things you can't. youre being so careful yet you both know there's this pretense going on.

there's so much left, yet so little. after all of that, what is there even left to be said? what CAN be said? they're already so intimately aware of what the other is thinking, there's nothing new, yet somehow, there's this gap. there's this emptiness that both know they can't really do anything about.

in the end, the sannin are a tragic trio. and kishi does an excellent job of showing this through their stories and histories, sure. but he does an even better job at showing it through their small interactions together. the way they always end up talking about the past, the attempt to bring up happier times (like tsunade trying to reminisce about their genin days as team hiruzen), yet how they ALWAYS come back to ultimately how they fell apart, and the world kept spinning, and all they can do is try to make sure the future doesn't make the same mistakes they did.

what can you even say to someone like that? it must've been so freeing, to have someone that understands them to such an extent. that would know them more than anyone else in the world ever could imagine. and yet. so suffocating. because they're a reminder. a reminder of what you used to be, a reminder of what could've been, a reminder of how everything went wrong, every single mistake you ever made. and so despite the person in front of you being the only person in the world that likely knows exactly how you're feeling, what you're going through, all your experiences, they're also somehow the last person you can ever speak to about any of it. because it becomes like a trap almost. they're constantly reminded of their pasts when they look at each other. how can you ever begin to move on with someone like that right in front of you?

once upon a time, they were the hope of konoha. they were the young shinobi, meant to bring in a new era of peace, meant to be the change. and they wholeheartedly believed this too. and then, to make it to 50, after everything they went through, and realising they were no better off than the generation before them. that everything they ever stood for, ever fought for, were all practically in vain. and how suddenly the people meant to be the change for the future can only hope to make sure there is still even a chance for change for the next generation.

really, what else are they meant to do around each other than continue their little dance or chess game and let the unspoken remain unspoken?

[parentsday]

Hiii! Since you asked about headcanons/analysis stuff:

There's a common interpretation on the fandom about Max's treatment of David in the early episodes coming, at least partially, from trust issues regarding adults/authority figures. And I've seen push back against it, too. People who say it's just because David is annoyingly positive. Nothing else.

And sure, I can see that. But Nikki also acts in a cheerful manner and mostly enjoys camp, and Max doesn't treat her with the level of rudeness he treated David in season one. This could be due to her being his little partner in crime, but idk. I always interpreted it as him thinking that David is some fake nice adult who will just let him down if he allows it.

And, while I was thinking about this, I realized how this interpretation of Max's behaviour towards David adds another heartbreaking layer to Parents day.

Max's perception of David started changing after Order of the sparrow, specifically after the "Somebody fucking has to" moment. For just a moment, the annoying, overly positive persona drops, and Max is able to see a nuanced human being. And it's clear that he starts understanding David a little more, because in Cult camp (literally the next episode), he allows himself to be brainwashed and trusts that David will save the camp (btw, we as a fandom don’t talk about this aspect of this episode enough).

So yeah, his perception of David changes for the better.

But then, parents day happens.

And David spends most of the episode being an absolute jerk, even if he doesn't realize it.

He pushes SO HARD to try and make the day perfect, basically ignores Max when he states that his parents aren't coming, gets way too serious about playing the role of Max's dad for the day, forces Max into the activities and then, at the end of a day that was already shitty for Max, he yells at him.

I think the context of Max's opinion on David finnaly becoming more positive makes this episode so much sadder.

Because it ceases to be just about Max's neglectful parents.

Now it's also about the closest thing he has to a trustworthy adult making him uncomfortable, ignoring his feelings and then yelling at him and telling him that he "has a bad attitude" and "brings everyone else down instead of trying just a little bit to have fun".

(Which are things he must have heard from adults before, if he behaves the way he does at camp in school and other places)

Remember in Friends like these when he said "Life's just one dissapointment after another. I can't belive I let myself forget it"? I think he might have had the same train of thought here: "I can't believe I let myself forget David is an asshole that only cares about impressing Campbell and making this stupid camp look good". Or: "I can't believe I let myself forget that every single adult thinks I'm a bad kid and a lost cause."

And I know it gets fixed quickly, with David apologizing shortly after, but still. I think the idea of Max being dissapointed at David in Parents day, even if it was just for some moments, is so good.

I also think this is the episode that comfirms to Max that David is genuinely a good person trying his best. He spent the entire day having to think about the fact that his parents suck, and then there's David, who is kind, apologizes for upsetting him and takes him to eat pizza and have a little heartfelt talk.

When was the last time his parents apologized to him, or cared about what he wanted/needed, or talked to him so gently?

The contrast between his parents and David is so big, and I think that's what makes Max finnaly go "Yeah, this guy isn't actually that bad."

(Sorry for rambling, omg.)

hi first of all thank u for an ask and such insightful one at it too !! this was an incredibly pleasant read and a lot of the stuff you say i personally find very good analysis of the show and agree with, however i do have some stuff to say abt it soo here we go ^-^ (this will be a long one so sorry about this in advance)

as i said in some previous reply, max is an incredibly peculiar guy when it comes to the way this show treats his trauma and the way he himself behaves as a result of it, and that’s by design! a lot of the thing he says and does in the first two seasons when it comes to david are there for reasons of narrative set up, and are later masterfully recontextualized by parents day later, leaving very little room for interpretation when it comes to how and why he operates. im gonna go out on a limb and say that i don’t think it’s a stretch to assume that most of his actions towards david in the early show stem from the childish born-from-trauma need for attention and also from his need for societal reinforcement of his own ego’s right to exist. when it comes to the first one i see most people agree (bc it’s a basic child psychology fact), but turn their noses in reference to the second one.

contrary to popular belief, max being in need of constant affirmation that he, as a person with little self value, deserves to exist next to other people is something that we see examples of constantly and is not a terrible part of his character that needs to be ignored. max is a neglect victim who from our knowledge is given very little attention by his parents, as a result of it he is a pessimistic asshole kid whose ego suffers from the very thing that made it this way. its in his strained relationship with nikki and neil, its in him arguing with david to put himself in the position of an adult, its him putting himself above others when it’s not needed and its in him putting his own egos safety first when time comes to accept that things are moving forward (two final episodes from both s3 and s4 are good examples of this). its not an inherently positive trait, but it is one okay for him to have by the virtue of being a young abused child with no support system, and denying it will leave him devoid of this characterization. in freudian (ugh) terms, we cannot separate his character’s superego from his id in a way that won’t harm the way he was intentionally written. Id, ego and superego are all influenced by our relationship with our parents, the amount of nurturing of a child's emotional and psychological needs parents does will result in the child’s psychological state forming a certain way, max as a character who is heavily reliant of his lackluster relationship with his parents is not devoid of this and it affects his relationship with david too. and the reason i’m saying all of this is exactly due to this.

david, when put in most simple terms, is a character who’s an adult figure present and mature enough in max’s current social position that it allows him to treat max as a child, something max is not used to. not used to to such an extent that it puts a strain on his ego in the process. david feeds his need for any form of attention, positive or not, just as much as he clips away at max’s need to be seen as socially important and in a position of an adult. it’s arguable if both of these are good or not but the main thing they are in relation to is obvious: max feels that being an adult who meets both of his psychological needs in ways that are unfamiliar to him makes david an untrustworthy person, thats exactly where you interpretation comes in clutch.

max and his behavior towards david cannot be separated from david being an adult, that is made clear with the way he treats nikki as an equal just because she is a person his age, despite her sharing a lot of david’s traits. going through the episodes you mentioned, order of the sparrow episode lets max see david perspective for the very first time. max is allowed to peek into the reason why david acts the way he does, however it alone doesn’t make him see david in a good light, if anything it makes him appear genuine in his actions. it also lets max have something for david that he didn’t have before: trust. it ends up being used in cult camp as a confirmation of it being something david can live up to (you are absolutely right, we really don’t talk abt this episode and it’s narrative weight enough). all of this has been adding onto the way max himself perceives david, parents day, however, lets both of them internalize the sentiment of mutual understanding towards each other together. parents day does this by lampshading max and david parallelism, making this whole episode consist of max seeing his parents in david just as much as david sees himself in max through the whole show and putting them in each others shoes by the end of it. the episode ends with david choosing max as a priority, he is still acting selfishly (once again david is an asshole) but choosing to do so towards max because the situation allows him to understand max the way s1 finale let max understand him. and with the final turning point in their dynamic, max understands that both his ego and need for attention can exist without them being reinforced by an adult treating him like he is an adult too. max was chosen as a priority for the very first time and that alone made him feel of more value than the treatment he initially yearned for would have. above all else parents day makes max see david as someone he can look up to as a person in emotional way, not only in a life or death situations, the shot of david from his perspective in the end making sure that we don’t miss it.

most of this is not me disagreeing with you, on the opposite i think a lot of the arguments you make are nice and are mindful interaction with the media. gold star for enjoying meta analysis to both of us i guess ⭐️. my main problem is, however, the fact that using all of this to basically say ‘maxs parents suck so he has a distain for david because of it’ is a heavy oversimplification that you somehow go against in your initial statement too and that i, personally, just don’t enjoy. this alone does not make your interpretation wrong though, if anything just reinforces your general idea into a more concrete argument rather than a collection of bits and pieces of evidence pointing to it. hope all of this made sense

tldr; man idk no summing up this one as to not take away from the overall statement im making with this. read the post 🫶

[ping-ski]

Hewwo, hope you are having a lovely day! :3 For the Artist Ask meme questions, what is your favourite music to draw to, your go-to things to draw for comfort and do you little warmup sketches before drawing? Thank you and have a wonderful rest of the weekend!!

hi ama!! :3 thank you and i hope your day + weekend is lovely too!! <3 (now to the questions, sorry for the yappage lol)

🎼 Your favorite music to draw to right now? ooo how fun!! i got 2 other anons asking this too haha! i love music and i'm also a (hobbyist) musician myself so... usually the music while i draw is dependent on the mood/intention/character i have with the piece! (silly art = silly music etc.) often times i'll loop a song for DAYS just to keep up the "vibe" cause i don't have a go-to favorite when i draw! otherwise i just listen to whatever comes to mind in the moment! but yeah right now (while i draw DCA au stuff), i'm listening to Willow Smith's "empathogen" album & yaelokre's "Hayfields" because i adore that project and it's fun to sing along with!

🐻 Your go-to things to draw when you need comfort? hmm... my go-to comfort to draw is almost always whatever my current hyperfixation is! which is primarily DCA right now! outside of that (tho i'd probably have art block tbh), it's usually drawing myself in varying styles or (if i pull them out of the basement) my OCs. i'm a fanartist at heart, so drawing original stuff sometimes feels alien to me haha! i need a fictional muse to fuel the art lmao

☕ Do you do warmup sketches before drawing? (Bonus: do you have any to share?) actually- no i don't! i don't really "warmup" at all because it ALWAYS ends up being a sketch i post or end up as a finished piece! (i feel like this would make more sense if you watch me draw live ig/posted a speedpaint? maybe for art requests and commissions, but i can't recall tbh.) before digital art, i always drew with a PEN or CRAYON cause that's the most sensory friendly option for me. (it doesn't make a lot of scratchy noises like markers and pencils) so i unintentionally trained my muscle memory and myself to draw whatever comes to mind because every stroke was (literally) permanent + i tried to draw fast and loose cause i hate the feeling of paper. it gives me the strongest, most volatile, and intense visceral ICK. when i draw, i always draw with intention otherwise i'm probably not drawing at all! (this is also why i'll go on streaks of posting often then disappearing) idk my vision is usually clear, even for sketches and the muscle memory does its job! im too lazy to do actual "warmups" tbh. anyways, it's not a warmup sketch per say but i here's a random wips i have !! :3 (it's all LDR, but the last two images are from a separate wip!)

[dickinfectionbez]

If Marc was a little more unhinged and more chronically online then there is a 35% chance a MLP rainbow dash jar exists with one of Vale's bike figures that he made.

[yuwuta]

the way you always write yuuta to call reader angel makes me swoon it’s soooo cute and “sweets” from gojo is equally as cute

it took me so long to find a term of endearment that suits yuuta and angel is so :( he means it purely, but also slightly idealistically, he truly believes his partner is something other-worldly, and perhaps too good for him, or at the very least, too good to be true :(( tho the other day aleks posted about him calling you “honey” and that’s so :((( so sweet 

satoru seems like he abuses any pet name he can think of, but there’s always a few that he comes back to: sweets, baby, love. those are the ones that always slip  a bc out unconsciously; “baby” when he thinks you look particularly cute, “love” when he thinks you look particularly pretty, “sweets” whenever the moment calls for it, whenever he misses you.

kento is fairly traditional, very gentle in all aspects with you, including how he calls for you. “my darling,” “dear,” and “my love” are what slip out most frequently, and always with such a tender timbre to his voice :((

i think a lot about toge and language all the ways to adapt his technique to a relationship, whether it’s canonically or in a modern au, because either way he makes it very known that you are special to him, even if it’s not in the traditional way. in some kind of canonverse situation, it’s a kind of codeword—maybe another onigiri ingredient that acts as an encompassing pet name and i love you depending on how it’s said or when it’s said; it wouldn’t be obvious to others, but you would know and he would know, and that’s all that matters. there are ways to call for people or express affection through sign, too, but he’d also establish some kind of gesture that communicates what he’s thinking. 

megumi doesn’t strike me as the pet name kinda guy, but if you ask for it, he’ll comply. still, even without the use of a frequent pet name, you can hear the affection in megumi’s voice just by how he calls your name. it’s always gentle, soft in tone and volume, and just a sickly sweet as any other term of endearment.

yuuji :(( absolute angel boy :(( goes through weekly rotations of pet names until he finds one that sticks for you. babe and baby are always there, but he lands on something slightly unique? he also seems like he’d be the one to use food as a term of endearment…. also…. hear me out…. sunshine…. which everyone, yourself included, finds to be ironic considering how bright and lively yuuji is, but yuuji doesn’t always see himself that way; but he does always see you as the center of his universe, you’re the light that guides him on his worst days, and something so pure and essential to not just him, but everyone in your life :((

[elainsgirl]

why do people deny what elriel has? It baffles me that people actually try to make their scenes they have together into something else and saying its not romantic. we elriel's get called delusional for believing our couple could be endgame even when they have multiple scenes together that backs up our opinions and not one bonus scene that people just nitpicked and did everything they could possibly do to see if their ship could be endgame?!?

sorry, but, no. Im going to keep believing in elriel because I actually read the books and I don't just stick to a bonus chapter and believe a ship could possibly be endgame. thats like with cassian and emerie, when people thought they would end up together, and guess what? they didnt! like we are going down the same road again people!

Also. The fact that people are trying to make gwyn into a main character is laughable. why can't we see that she's just a side character with potential? why are people trying to replace elain with her??? "rhys will love gwyn and be besties" "auntie gwyn" "gwyn will be the savior". im actually sick and tired of acting like I actually cared about gwyn (I liked her character obviously) but she was just there to me, just like emerie. This fandom is just something else.

Hey Anon, I hope you’re having a great day 🫶

I totally get the frustration & annoyance, trust me, it gives you a headache trying to wrap your head around how people are genuinely doubting elriel over a ship that doesn’t even have any romantic scenes. I mean, elriel - a couple which goes back 3-4 books, is genuinely being rivaled with Gwynriel? Two characters that canonically don’t even want each other? They’re being so forecefully shipped over the silliest things. “Gwyn glanced at Azriel in Ch43? Omg its soooo clear she has feelings for him 🤭”

“Did you notice the way Azriel half turned when Gwyn squeaked? AHHHH HE LITERALLY CAN’T HELP NOTICING HER ITS SOOO ROMANTIC!”

Yet when it comes to elriel?

“Elain blushed bcs Az smiled at her? Pffft Sjm was just trying to show us how uncomfortable and awkward Azriel makes Elain” (no joke this was something an anti actually argued once)

You know what happened w that bonus chapter? It was over-exaggerated and over-romanticised.

Imagine this. You absolutely hate elriel and when you first read the bonus, your worst nightmares have come true. Azriel is in fact wanting Elain. There is a mutual attraction and want between them. Your hope that Elain secretly wanted Lucien has gone up in flames or the hope that Azriel didn’t actually want the blandest character in the series has also gone up in flames. Your distraught. Disappointed but then comes along another fmc in the bonus. A female character you actually like, over elain. Ofc you’re going to use that as a way to ship her w Az instead of accepting the obvious. Elain & Az are endgame. Poor Gwyn is simply a self-insert as well as the “better” option for Azriel as she is more widely liked. Her whole interaction w Azriel has been so inflated that when you look at it with unbiased lens, you just find it silly.

How many times have we been told that the shadows love gwyn? That they’re so playful with her? That they performed an entire salsa with Gwyn? Going off this alone, it seems so romantic right? Yet when you actually read the scene,

“Her breath curled in front of her mouth, one of his shadows darted out to dance with it before twirling back to him. As thought it had heard some silent music”

How disappointing is that scene compared to the way Gwynriels promote it? The shadows aren’t given any emotions. There is no way to tell they’re being playful. Its not even plural, it was one shadow that danced with gwyns breath. It can’t just be me finding this so unbelievably plain.

Then you get told by gwynriels that Gwyn and Az bantered! They had a simple conversation in which Gwyn herself couldnt care less + Azriel actively was trying to be polite. “Gwyn allows Az to open up so much! We find out he sings” im being honest- if you made it this far not knowing Azriel is a singer despite it being in the literal name, shadowsinger, thats just you being odd. Can’t forget the kicker - “The image sparkkng in his chest, where it glowed quietly”.

But you know what? This could have just been an amusing crackship. Yet, its when antis come for elriel with their stupid takes that get you annoyed especially when its just mischaracterising Elain and Az purposely. THAT becomes bothersome. EL and GA stans have turned Azriel into a toxic, possessive incel that needs to be isolated in therapy away from all women - excluding Gwyn, ofc, gwynnie is the ONLY one that can help him through his disturbing issues bcs Gwynnie is just the best. She will make him realise how foolish he was being over Elain. How his feelings - Az questioning his belief, religion and system, being ready to fight a BD for her, wanting to beg on his knees for Elain were simply a front bcs he didn’t want to admit he’s falling in love w his little gwynnie poo.

Elain? She’s just confused. She doesn’t know what she wants. She’s in denial, Elain can’t handle how badly she wants Lucien, she’s trying to push it all down. You know whats the funniest? Eluciens yap day and night about how toxic Az & the IC are for infantilizing Elain yet the little hypocrites do the exact same thing when it comes to Elains character. Or they apparently need her pov to know how she truly feels about Lucien bcs Elain losing her boldness and saying verbally - she doesn’t want a mate, is not enough.

. They have to make elriel toxic bcs thats the only way their ships can happen. Its not possible otherwise.

As you said, elriels dont need the bonus. The ship is more then canon within the books, the bonus simply gives more insight into Azriels character in acosf, but gwynriel? The bonus is their entire foundation. Without it they have nothing aside some out of context scenes. For eluciens? They need the bonus to back up their whole “elriel is toxic agenda”.

Keep on shipping elriel, anon. You’re shipping a couple that have had genuine interest in each other, that have had multiple scenes developing them from Azriel figuring out elain is a seer when only her her mate was suppose to figure it out, too Nesta noticing a charged glance. From Azriel staying up late at night talking to Elain too Elain gifting him a personalised headache powder. Elucien & gwynriel have absolutely nothing when compared too elriel. Im sorry, but Az chuckling bcs of Gwyn isn’t compared too when Elain made him laugh so joyously it cleared the shadows from his eyes. Elain, who mentioned nothing when Lucien showed up hurt - went out of her way to make Azriel a headache powder to help him feel better.

people would ship Az with anyone. They’re that desperate for another Li aside from Elain. I can guarantee you, if there was another fmc Az had interacted with, gwynriels would split so damn fast - kind of like what happened when Bryce and Az interacted. Antis were so desperate - they shipped Az and emerie in acofas calling Elriels toxic for not succumbing to the likeliness of that ship. Its a cycle. Fandom hates certain character in a ship, looks for alternative ship, ships them, ship sinks and fails then they have to accept the ship they hated sm. Cycle continues.

Didn’t you know anon? Since Gwyn has a second name and her heritage is known- it immediately means she is now THE most important character especially over Elain. Whose an archeron. The family the spinoffs are about. But that doesn’t matter. Gwyn does not follow the typical fmc pattern sjm has laid out, she isn’t a main character anytime soon. Her stans love saying she is due to her appearance in the bonus but elain also appeared in Azriels AND Feysands bonus. Going by their own logic, Elain is the next fmc. Gwyn was a lovely character in acosf, but she isn’t set to be a main character. Elain was. Gwyn was created for Nesta, she’s Nesta’s bestie. Almost eveything about Gwyn, is linked to Nesta. We have now had Nesta’s story,therefore Gwyn has served her main purpose.

Even gwynriels know that gwyn isn’t an important character as of now bcs she has no ties to the IC. She hasn’t met Feyre, the Main character and sjms biggest voice in the series. Gwyn and Rhys aren’t buddies. He will be a Hl to her. She is simply Nestas friend. Nothing more.

I used to like her character but gwynriels and her stans kept on shoving her down my throat yapping about how awesome & great she is compared to Elain, who was boring. Her stans hated elain so much, bringing her down whilst uplifting Gwyn that I now just can’t stand Gwyn. I haven’t reread acosf bcs I don’t want to go through any gwyn scenes. I dont interact w Gwyn content either. I viewed Gwyn the same way you did. She was a side character to Nestas story. She was great, but didnt stick out to me.

As sad as it sounds, the only reason so many people are obsessed with Gwyn is Bcs they’ve potrayed her as another Li for Azriel. Otherwise, she would have been treated the same way Emerie has been treated. As a side character.

Just to end off: Anon, Gwynriels and Eluciens make themselves look foolish when they claim elriel aren’t romantic or obvious. How am I suppose to take their ships seriously when they can’t even acknowledge elriels’ foreshadowing and romance clearly displayed in the books? If you’re claiming you saw absolutely nothing going on between elriel - but gwynriel were so obvious to you - then thats just embarrassing for you. It’s clear that there’s some denial going on.

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