#i hate r/fdc

[sockthecoolcat]

Congrats on being posted of r/FDC!!!

Welcome to “faker” club

thank you, anon, it truly doesnt get better than this /j

but in all seriousness i have no idea why they decided to specifically include a picture of my carrd?? ppl were pointing out the "+ psychotic" which like

i experience psychosis unrelated to my ocd, but i dont have anything diagnosed. yet r/fdc is really against self-diagnosing. theres no winning

[the-alarm-system]

How Anti Endos made me in denial even longer, and how Pro Endos made me Accept it

When I was younger, I always had Red at my side. Red is my protector, he always has been. I didn’t understand him, I didn’t understand his existence. I’d hear about DID, I met people with DID, but to me Red didn’t match what they have felt. I would tell people that I had another person in my head, someone who may allude to DID but I’d affirm that it was not DID. It was something else to me, something I didn’t know for sure. At some point I thought that Red was given to me by the Gods. He would deny this but it’s what made sense to me.

I was in anti endo circles, I still saw myself as a singlet and my system friends were very anti endo. I thought it was just the right non-harmful sides, I didn’t know the actual arguments. I just thought that’s how it was supposed to be because DID hasn’t made sense to me yet. I was a “singlet” who didn’t understand why there was another with me. anti endos circled around r/fdc and I didn’t want to accept that I may have a headmate because I didn’t want to be a dirty faker like they all hated. I didn’t want to be harmful towards my friends

One time I saw this pro endo term, it was about a system granted by deities. This made me think, but I ended up just blocking them because no endos are bad right?

then I saw an anti endo argue that schitzogenic is dangerous and thoughts in someone’s head was stupid and fake and just hallucinations. I thought “but between you and them, what is the difference in the idea that they have someone in their head too?”

then I found the term plural, it was inclusive, it made sense to me. But I stayed in denial

then scald appeared, he was loud, he would front a lot, he wouldn’t just appear when I was in danger like red did. I decided to take the term plural, I didn’t call myself a system yet, at the time plural is what made sense. I felt like I didn’t have the right to “appropriate” the did struggle. I was plural, I was many. Then finally at some point

I realized I could have DID, my headmates were sourced from trauma. Things started to connect, I stopped denying it. I had to the way Scald would be. Anti endos held me back, pro endos saved me. I owe them everything.

[plurapony]

It's time to talk about the how internet fakeclaiming pixielocks have impacted the overall DID community as well as the fakeclaimer community themselves.

So hi, I'm Morgan and I'm a part of an autistic DID system and I also love watching Pixielocks and her content.

With Pixielocks DID content I (and others in the system) finally felt seen. Pixielocks was and still is something our system strives to be, the path of functional multiplicity, cosplay and fashion design, colorful perspective and rainbow surroundings. Being able to look up to someone like that and watch them also talk about the ups and downs of the disorder we also deal with means so so much to us.

And you know what fucking sucks? To lose that sense of comfort, because fakeclaimers want internet saviour points and clout. And I completely understand Pixielocks side too, it's a good business strategy to just steer away and let the negative attention die down. (Side note: I still very much enjoy Pixielocks non DID content) But my point is that those who fakeclaimed Pixielocks DO NOT CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WITH DID. They are the attention whores. They don't care about us one bit.

The internet's obsession with fakeclaiming anything unusual (or dare I say autistic traits) is damaging and disgusting. Places like r/systemcringe and r/FDC will only ever accept those whose DID is pure suffering and whose idea of healing is final fusion - provided they don't have uncommon gender identities, neopronouns, fictives, etc of course.

Oh and a side note - if you're a system who engages fakeclaiming others or in r/FDC or r/systemcringe you're a mean fucking cunt and I hope the validation from people who hate us for existing is worth it.

[starmoon-constellation]

I hate this vision of “the future is singlet”. It shouldn’t be. The future should accept plurality, not meet it with disbelief and disgust. It doesn’t matter what you believe about endogenic systems, “the future is plural” isn’t advocating for more systems. It’s advocating for more plural acceptance. Isn’t that what we WANT? Don’t we WANT systems to be believed when they say they’re a system? Don’t we WANT systems to get the support and resources they need (may) need? Don’t we WANT people to not call systems crazy/delusional/psychotic/etc for being systems? What is wrong with people who say the future is singlet???? It’s supposed to be plural, because the future being plural means less fear-mongering and terror around system-hood. it means less movies likes Split. It means people actually supporting and uplifting systems. It means less r/FDC or r/systemcringe. It means more acceptance, more love for systems.

Your stance on endogenic systems does not matter here, your desire for a plural-accepting world does and should be the only thing that matters.

[pdid-culture-is]

Ello! Welcome to P-DID culture is! This is a safe place for beings with P-DID to share their experiences, because I can almost never find anything for P-DID,and if they're included it's more of an afterthought.

Submission rules:

No syscourse, this blog is supposed to be neutral on that. Talking about how syscourse has affected you is fine, but no genuine syscourse, that will be deleted.

Nothing explicitly NSFW, the system running this is bodily a minor. Somewhat suggestive is fine along with more dirty jokes. Cursing is also fine, but I will tag it accordingly.

If you have potentially triggering things in your post, label them at the top. If you don't know exactly what it would be, I'll tag it (unless I don't know either, then I'll probably just put ask to tag)

Vague 'posting' is okay, but don't tell others to harass them and don't drop names.

Anon tags

👁 anon

��� anon

🩻 anon

🧼 anon

🍩🍬 anon

💛 anon

👽🦷 anon

😈 anon

🥚🍳 anon

DNI:

Basis DNI criteria, conservative, Zionist, Pro contact for harmful paraphilias, talk about God a lot, heavily religious, Christian themed blog (no hate, it just makes us uncomfortable), Radqueer, Proship or any variants, syscourse blog, against contradictory labels and good faith labels, use R/FDC and R/Systemscringe unironically and actually post others there, against self DX, Billdip and Mabill shippers (makes everyone uncomfortable especially our Bill fictive)

Tagging

Culture is asks will be tagged with "PDID culture is"

Asks that don't fall under that are "Not PDID culture is"

When it's me, the host answering them it will be tagged #🐕answers, Bill is #⚠️answers, Springtrap is #🐇answers, when we don't know is just #🫥answers, the talking tags are the same just with talking instead of answers but Springtrap doesn't get one right now because as far as we're aware he can't speak and doesn't want to type, this might change

(We pretty much only go co-con but Bill might want to comment more than Theo and will probably respond in caps so just clarification on why we're responding in the way we are)

Also, we won't always comment on your submissions but we might if we have similar experiences we want to share or something else

[unfamiliar-ghostly-girl]

R/systemscringe and R/FDC are hateful subreddits by the way and posting to them or supporting them makes you a hateful being.

There is no good explanation for supporting a place where people, who are mostly middle and high schoolers may I add, get posted to be mocked, bullied, be armchaired diagnosed, and ultimately be told they are liars and the reason ableism exists.

This sort of behaviour and shaming people helps no one, no, not even the "ideal mentally ill" people who are quiet and don't talk about their mental illness.

These subreddits are filled to the brim with blatant ableism [dubbing everyone delusional, FDC literally banned people from talking about their disorders in the comments] and plain old bullying [No, calling people attention whores and sad/pathetic is not "good bullying"]

[sophieinwonderland]

i feel like at a certain point a lot of anti-endos are either wilfully ignorant or just straight up stupid, especially the ones who’re also trans.

how do you be part of a group thats entire ideological argument is that a group of people dont have the right to exists and not think “maybe we’re the bad guys here”

how do trans anti-endo’s unironically say “real systems” and not immediately think “oh, i sound exactly like terfs and truscum”

how do anti-endo’s claim to be punk, the specifically counterculture ideology about defying the current norms, and at the same time yell that the future is singlet. how do they not see the stupidity in claiming “the future is <current societally accepted normal>!!” is somehow punk.

to any anti-endo’s reading this, from a traumagenic system, please just.. think, for a second. think about your actions and beliefs, think about how they compare to the groups you consider evil in other parts of your lives, think about why you believe those things. i know that realizing you’ve been horrible is a hard thing to accept, but it will always be better to stop being hateful today than tomorrow. also please for the love of golb please get off of reddit, it was already horrible before the spez event, but its so much worse now. i can guarantee that even if you stay anti-endo, getting away from r/did and fdc and r/systemcringe will improve your mental health massively.

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[solar--system]

Holy shit I got posted! It only took me three years of being a system online.

Let’s go through some things because as I mentioned in an earlier post these subreddits spread misinformation!

1. All these alters from their favorite shows games, and general YouTubers.

We have 1-3 fictives in our system. 1-3 because I’m thinking two of the fictives that “formed” recently weren’t real. I think someone in the system took on the personalities of characters from our hyperfixation show and we mistook it as a fictive. I’m not certain on this yet though.

2. Makes memes almost weekly about how silly their altars are being in headspace.

Funny cause we dont post about other alters in our system much. And we don’t really have access to headspace so… how am I making weekly memes about these things?

3. And makes new alters every week.

Depending on if those fictives are real or not, we havent formed a new alter in 3-4 months. And the last split before that was 7 months away. So we don’t split often and we’re a system of about 15ish. Huge numbers I know /s

4. They shared a post about Inside out and Riley having alters. I’ve linked the post because it was a silly post I reblogged saying that you should’ve realized you were a system sooner based on how much you rated to the emotion characters in inside out.

But I’ve finally done it. 3 years of being open as a system online and I finally got fakeclaimed. I just wish they had better reasoning. Honestly the post probably happened cause I said r/FDC and r/SC spread misinformation. Here’s a fun fact for everyone. Endos spread misinformation, these subreddits spread misinformation, and yes even CDD systems spread misinformation. Anyways thank you for this new honor. Try harder next time though, kay?

Here’s the link to my post in case anyone wants to check it out. I find it funny so no harassment or hate towards the poster or any commenters. I wanna see what they have to say.

[cosmossystem]

[id: screenshot of an anon ask saying "redditor cunts posted you x [kisses] stay safe" the ask includes a link that has been removed from the screenshot. end id]

oooof thank you anon i appreciate the warning but we do NOT need the link to that lol. I made a promise to myself that i would rather jump off a cliff than open r/FDC.

but yeah i kinda figured (based on the name of the link, again i didn't open it) that'd be that post of all of them to piss them off. For our followers that would be this one. Like, they really hate it when people find joy in their differences and disabilities lol. god forbid you find the human brain fascinating.

i'll admit Red phrased that post with the intention of it going viral (clearly it worked) but like, i dunno, i think "miracle of the mind" is kind of a dope way of explaining ANY kind of neurodivergency. it's already a miracle we're alive at all, and a further miracle that we are the way we are--are we not allowed to be kinda interested in that? Is it a crime to find the human brain intriguing? Good fucking god these people are sad.

I can just see the comments now: "ah yes, having a highly traumatizing disorder is sooo quirky and fun!! /s how DARE you romanticize OSDDIDODISDISDSIDS?? don't you know it's a terrible awful horrible no-good disgusting awful scary yucky wucky icky disorder to have that RUINS MY life??? imagine thinking COMPLEX SYSTEMS are REAL lol there's no way you can have MULTIPLE subsystems or, gasp, a HEADSPACE. CLEARLY you're FAKING" -- you get it, we've all read that already. Just another tuesday really.

if anyone feels like arguing for us in THAT subreddit, you'll have avenged us and you'll win my undying appreciation (but don't hurt yourself to do it, that's not sigma) (i just wanna cause a lil chaos)

Anyway i'm considering this an award. Thanks anon for the ask.

💙 cass

[sockthecoolcat]

r/FDC sucks

I have a small rant about r/FDC that I needed to post on here. This is to all the disabled/mentally ill/neurodivergent people who post on r/FDC. You all loathe yourselves and it SHOWS. Anytime someone talks about how ableist and annoying r/FDC is, I see so many comments say things like "ACTUALLY mentally ill people hate fakers and hate themselves!" or "people who actually have said disorder are absolutely miserable and suffering immensely" Like that's just projection. Look, I don't like my mental illness. Nobody does. But there are some things that you can't change. People on r/FDC will get mad at any minor who have multiple disorders and/or post about it. God forbid someone accept themselves and TRY to bring some positive light on their disorders. And this is coming from someone who used to religiously scroll through r/FDC because I hated myself and my disorder so much that I resented the people who could post about their disorder in positive ways. Also, there are so many people on r/FDC who use their disability to say they aren't ableist. You can be disabled AND be ableist.

That's all

[debunkingfdc]

This probably isn't super surprising, but apparently r/fakedisordercringe users are almost 13 times more likely to be active on r/fatlogic than your average Reddit user according to subredditstats.com.

From what I can tell scrolling through r/fatlogic, it's pretty much entirely just making fun of fat people. Like, that's the subreddit's entire purpose. They post screenshots of anything related to weight and laugh about how silly and stupid fat people are.

Basically, it seems like there's a noticeable overlap between people who like harassing/fakeclaiming disabled people and people who like harassing fat people. I'm guessing it's because in both scenarios, they get to act smug (or feel like they're not the loser for once in their life lmao) by publicly shaming random people online in a socially acceptable way. Obviously there's a difference between accusing someone of faking a disability and making fun of their weight, but the motives behind it don't look like they differ all that much.

I also noticed that r/fakedisordercringe users were a whopping 96.80 times more like to be active on r/munchsnark. Though, sadly, I cannot tell you what that subreddit is like because it's been "banned for violating Reddit's rule against promoting hate" (FDC users on a hate subreddit? More likely than you think). I googled it and it seems to have served the same purpose of fakeclaiming random disabled people online as r/fakedisordercringe. I'm not sure why Reddit banned that one but not FDC.

So... yeah. I don't know why I decided to go into this on a Sunday night when I have school tomorrow, especially given that I don't use Reddit or give much of a flying fuck about what happens over there, but here you go in case you wanted it. A bit more context as to what exactly is going on in the general r/fakedisordercringe population.

ngl I suspected that sub had some overlap with other hate communities

[vernalloy]

How do you feel about Adam Stanheight and or John Kramer? For curiosities sake, I like your takes.

I like both! Adam has really interesting interactions with everyone— his anger issues pop up with Lawrence (because he’s stuck in a death trap) but in both cases, on meetings with Amanda and Lawrence, he’s exceptionally kind. He compliments Amanda, he decides to hide the family kidnapping to Lawrence. He regrets lashing out at Lawrence. Going to the beta script (we love the beta script) he feeds stray cats. I just really love how his impulsivity is shot thru with kindness.

Also… another little tidbit on script!Adam I thought of while I was scripting a comic… Some people draw Adam with self harm scars. Which makes sense if you’re running from an angle of suicide and their overlap. But he… doesn’t actually have them in canon. He doesn’t take any action to Saw (2004) off his foot, and one could interpret that as a lack of will to live but that’s fucking stupid. I think… he’s very passive in waiting to die. Doesn’t seem to me like someone who would have scars. Too averse for pain for that. More just dragging by. Not to shoot down people who do! But I just thought it was an interesting thought, especially in the context I came up with it in, in parallel to Amanda.

John Kramer is not a person I would want to be around, but he is a fantastic villain. I joke that “Saw dares to ask the question ‘what if a disabled person hated you for being disabled’” and I stand by that. John Kramer is scoping out his next victims on r/fdc. <- terrible sentence I’m sorry about that. But cutting to the core of how I find him interesting— He’s an abusive father figure to Amanda, and specifically in a way that is very much mentally focused. He can’t physically hurt her, but he can put her thru traumatizing situations under the guise of a good cause. He doesn’t raise her voice at her, but to be stuck with a person who disapproves of you when you so desperately love them is just horrible!

[thecorvidforest]

i am little but having many big feelings so am sorry if hard to read!

is very hard being little in a grown up body. world is so mean to people like me, kids in grown up bodies. say is “fetishizing” and “cringy” to just be kid and watch cartoon and have stuffies and pacies. makes me never ever ever want to talk and be me ever.

is not bad to be kid in grown body. is bad to hate people like me and call them mean names and put them on bad bad places like r/fdc. is bad to send angry messages to people who are different from you. is bad to be so so angry because you uncomfortable and make other people sad instead of look inside you and be better.

making fun of “cringy” people “weird” people not make you better than them. makes you worse because you are mean and hateful inside.

[chorus-communities]

lord what are half of these words. how can you be an endo and have medical DID.

if its 420 + then why specify 420 (because theyre a 12 yr old who thinks teehee weed prolly) also wtf does eternally growing mean. you know thats not a good thing right. you know alters only split for reasons right.

look i get pds are comorbid but not that many and ESP not as a minor. judging by the post this kid isnt even 16. you dont have pds youre just a teenager. also you dont have bpd you have audhd black and white thinking. heart. and you are defo not schitz at age like 12

yeah this explains a lot.

cringe compilation incoming

[hazedxhealing]

2/?

> FDC also made me realize how many people fake being autistic. Which I have been fighting for assessment and diagnoses for almost my entire life, despite being quite obviously autistic in my day-to-day life.

IDK there r ppl out there who fake autism or are simply misinformed about the symptoms surely, but idk what benefit it does to blast random ppl online. Like that doesnt do anything but give them more attention?

i hope you have a good day. Be safe, be well. Please dont take this as me being combative, hostile, aggressive or trying to personally attack or disprove you or your experiences, im really not, your beliefs about FDC and You (& your experiences) as a Person are seperate concepts

I appreciate you being calm and not an ass, but also you seem to have personal beef w/ FDC?

I’m not like, singing their high praises or anything. They are a *shit* subreddit, but that doesn’t negate that some of the members actually care about the movement, not just the clout (or fun, if? Idk).

That whole post was meant in like a “you can dislike it if you want but I don’t honestly see a problem with calling ppl out who actively cause harm to a specific marginalized community” yk?

It’s not a personal attack on anyone who doesn’t agree. It’s okay to disagree, it’s okay to not like them. It’s even okay to hate them. I’m just neutral I guess.

[sophieinwonderland]

Why Pluralphobia Is Distinct From Other Forms Of Prejudice

This is mostly a response to this post, but is also part of a broader conversation. Choice quotes:

they hate us because we’re mentally ill. they’re afraid of us because we’re mentally ill...

“pluralphobia” isn’t the right word to use here because it’s not the plurality they’re afraid of. they’re afraid of what it implies — the mental illness, the idea that they might be in a situation they don’t understand with someone who could be dangerous to them.

ableism is the problem that plagues all of us. it rots societies from the inside out. whether you believe yourself to be a disordered system or not, you’re experiencing ableism when you’re being discriminated against for looking like DID

I want to say that I actually agree with a lot of this. A significant portion of pluralphobia IS based in ableism. But that only provides a fraction of the picture. There isn't an autism cringe subreddit or a schizophrenia cringe subreddit, and we would face significantly less stigma from being out as plural than we do from being autistic, or than we would if we were schizophrenic.

DID cringe, and later systems cringe, were specifically a response to this one type of disorder and community. Even /r/FDC is primarily focused on systems at this point. And there's a reason for that.

Dissociative Identity Disorder isn't just stigmatized for the disorder part. It's also stigmatized for the identity part. The same attacks that are directed at transgender people are just as often directed at systems. Half the posts on the cringe subreddits spend as much time targeting systems for using neo-pronouns as they do for things associated with the actual illnesses. The same mentality that makes transphobes want to deny people's chosen gender and deadname them is the mentality that results in them not wanting to acknowledge alters and headmates by their own names or acknowledge their individual genders.

DID and plurality as a whole exist in an intersection where ableism and transphobia meet. It does this while introducing another element of identity to the public consciousness, plurality itself, that many singlets are not prepared to deal with.

Pluralphobia is made up of three fundamental parts. Part one is ableism, the idea that we're "crazy" and dangerous. Part two is an extension of transphobia and identity, relating to people identifying as a different gender than their biological sex, or going by different names. Part three is the threat of the plurality, the idea of multiple individuals within a single body and the threat to a singlet-normative society and the traditional conceptions of how the human brain works. This third reason is why you even have many psychologists who are convinced that DID isn't even a real disorder.

All three of these aspects are inextricably linked together, and is going to result in systems facing more discrimination than those with almost any other disorder.

the entire endo community is based on the idea that if endos can distance themselves far enough from being “disordered,” (and from dissociative systems as a whole) then maybe they can be accepted by society.

if this distancing behavior sounds familiar, it should. it’s the same mindset as the LGBT “activists” who are working to sanitize queer history by removing any mention of things that are complicated or potentially upsetting. it’s the same attitude that calls neogenders “cringe” and tells GNC trans ppl that their presentation somehow hurts others.

This, I don't agree with. Certainly, there are groups who have done that here and there, but I don't see this being particular prominent in modern inclusive spaces.

I think it would be more accurate to say that one of the goals of the endogenic community is to show that plurality itself isn't a disorder, and ultimately result in plurality as a whole being accepted by society. You can have a disorder that affects how your plurality functions like DID and OSDD, but that disorder isn't the plurality itself.

I've seen a lot of DID systems, especially in anti-endo communities, be quick to point out that DID isn't just an "alters" disorder. But those same systems fall into the trap of viewing the alters as the defining characteristic of the disorder rather than the instinctive switching or difficult internal communication or the dissociative amnesia or any myriad of other issues associated with it.

This shift of focus isn't just for the benefit of the endogenic community. Normalizing plurality as a natural function of the human brain rather than presenting it as the brain being "broken" or "split" by trauma, as I've seen many systems repeat, is just as important to the mental health of alters who might view themselves as being a problem rather than having one. It also reinforces that healthy multiplicity is a valid healing option, and that you don't have to try to be what society views as "normal" to be healthy, whereas many singlets would push final fusion as the only valid healing option.

Furthermore I can't speak for every endogenic and non-disordered system. I can only say that the reason we don't identify as DID or OSDD is because our plurality has never resulted in any sort of distress or impairment that would warrant a diagnosis of a disorder. Choosing not to identify with a disorder we don't have isn't some sort of internalized ableism, nor is it a slight against systems who do experience those disorders.

If distancing was the primary goal, I think you would see a greater push by endogenic systems to push DID/OSDD systems out of plural communities, and would be pushing to stop using the word "system" to describe ourselves. Instead, this type of distancing behavior is far more often associated with anti-endo communities.

I've always believed that the plural community is strongest together.