#hellaverse Octavia

[prof-ramses]

Golden Goose (Mammon x Stella) Headcanons

You can see my first batch of thoughts for these two here.

This particular batch is quite general and will have some family stuff and how the relationship effects those around the lovely couple.

Mammon is, ironically, more of a night owl than Stella and she often falls asleep first.

Before they got together, Mam would usually sleep with a large pillow in his arms for slight emotional comfort. Stella's presence comforts him far more, calling back to the last one, though it still takes him a bit to nod off it's still quicker than before.

Mam always brags about Stella to the other Sins, especially Ozzie. Even her smallest achievement is something Mammon cherishes as much as possible.

Speaking of Ozzie, the first time he talked to Mammon after he started dating Stella, he made a crack at Mammon going blind to a gold-digger over her own "assets". Before he could properly register it, Mam had him pinned to the floor with a hand tightening around his neck, Ozz immediately took his joke back. It was then that he realized that the seemingly impossible happened, Mammon was in a loving relationship.

Expanding on the concept of Stella sating her curiosity about "peasant" things, she tries to play a fighting game with Via and struggles. Via tells her not to worry about it, but the lose activates Stella's competitive nature and she starts practicing in her free time (Something Mammon makes sure she has plenty of) . She absolutely demolishes both Mam and Via at the next family game night. And that was how Octavia learned how quick of a learner her mother is.

This one was originally an ask for @pinkandpurple360 but it seemingly went the way of HB's original premise: While he got to see Charlie grow up and now has a daughter in Octavia, Mammon wishes deep down that he could raise a child of his own blood. It's not that he doesn't love Charlie and Via, he just can't help but feel he's missing something he wants. He considers asking Stella about having another kid, but knows that she was forced to have Via. This makes him confront the dilemma of pursuing his wish or not reawakening the trauma of the woman he loves. This idea definitely deserves more exploration, maybe in a fic.

After Stella and Mammon get hitched, people returning their Robofizz becomes a far rarer phenomenon, mostly because word gets out that Via personally "deactivates" any returned or recalled Fizzbots, who start going above and beyond to please their owners to avoid the princess' coulrophobia-fueled fury.

[satoumafuyuss]

Blitzø has zero tolerance for creeps when it comes to his daughters!! 😤🔥

[adyophene]

Been rewatching HB and I am haunted by the passing gag in episode 2 where it shows Blitzo working at Loo Loo Land at the same time that Octavia visited as a child.

[prof-ramses]

You fool! You released my brainrot about them! Now you must bare all these cute ideas!

Stella spent two and a half decades with a man she can't stand and who can't stand her, this combined with her daughter becoming closed off means it's been a long while since Stella felt genuine affection. Why am I bringing this up? Because we all know that Mam is touch-starved, there is no way in Heaven he is not spending every available moment reminding his swan that she's the most perfect demon ever, this would be doubly significant for them since Mammon's primary love language is 100% touch. Hugs, kisses, nuzzles, gently stroking her hair, every imaginable way someone could appreciate Stella's body and general presence is something Mammon does. Including in the bedroom ;)

Matching. Outfits. So many of them! Stella gets at least as many as Mammon has, same shade of green but with her white and pink accenting it, instead of Mam's black and yellow. If she complains about a given outfit even once the finest tailors Greed has to offer are already at the palace doors and the ones who originally made it just so happen to get dead in an accident with some "faulty wiring".

Since the Sins generally have a less formal and up-tight life style than the Goetic nobility it takes some time for Via and especially Stella to adjust, this actually helps the two bond more as Stella finally feels comfortable enough to let herself actually explore those slight "peasant" interests that have been piling up in the back of her mind her whole life.

Mammon becomes an honorary member of The Gossip Girls(tm) with Stella and her two besties. (Wish someone would make some fan content that expands on those two BTW) Because you just know he has tea to spill.

Via is pleasantly surprised when Mammon first tries to bond with her because, unlike Stol-ass, he comes clean that he doesn't really understand teens and is willing to let her explore her interests and join in on any they happen to share. Initially, as part of his father complex denial, Mam tells himself he's doing it for Stella's sake, but eventually finds himself genuinely having fun with Octavia and soon he's as protective of her as he is of Stella. And yes, he does teach Via how to FUCKING SHRED!

When Mam and Stella eventually get married it's Hell's biggest event in well over two centuries. All of Greed turns into a massive parade celebrating their new queen for at least two full days. No sounds of gunfire, no one getting mugged in allies over 5 souls, no one typing away at new adds for their pyramid schemes, just a celebration of seemingly impossible love.

The actual wedding itself ends up being the biggest non-business expense in Greed's history, every single person involved in the reception is handpicked by Mammon to make sure every single aspect is perfect.

And closing off with some Stol-ass hate: He basically becomes a hermit for a week after the wedding, trying to act like he doesn't care. He does, he so fucking does. To his surprise, he gets a card a few days later, It's a photo of Stella and Mammon kissing at the altar, Mam is holding her in his lower arms while one of his upper arms strokes her hair, she's caressing his cheek. They're both flipping the camera off with their free hand. Stolas turns the card around to see this message written on the back:" I would say sorry, but you don't deserve it. -O".

Mammon x Stella is so fuckin cute, neither of them have to budge even a little from how evil and despicable they are. But they can just be cute together and evil in their own little world

Plus the stepdad thing and Vias rant about corporate shame I saw in one of Chai’s anons makes it even better

[trisiyamoon]

🌈🌟 this idea by : CemetaryCins on TWT

[meandtheyeehaws]

doodles i did for a 23k celebration on twt! colored the verbie one :] i love women

[eweeka]

Making Amends Part 1 Yo, I've been posting this comic on Twitter since December 2023 so I don't see why I shouldn't post it here either Hope ya like it guys! Making Amends Cover Making Amends Part 2 Making Amends Part 3 Making Amends Part 4 Making Amends Part 5 Making Amends Part 6 Making Amends Part 7 Making Amends Part 8 Making Amends Part 9 Making Amends Part 10 Making Amends Part 11 Making Amends Part 12

[angelshizuka]

Happy Father’s Day (June 16th, 2024)

Stolas & Octavia + Blitzø & Loona

[prof-ramses]

АHHHHHHHH! OP I love this!!!

The suit, the hat pattern, the little baubles on Mam's shoes, Fizz's face, THE WAY VIA IS SMILLING WITH HER OWN FLOWERS! Love the way Stella is drawn here too.

I love them so much (except for Fizz, no offence, but I just don't like him)

Had to draw this ship at some point ;)

[n3felibata]

Incredibly powerful demon prince, practically immortal, capable of turning people to stone, commander of 26 legions... playing dress up with his daughter

[prof-ramses]

Me again, before you yell at me, read to the end of the sentence I had nothing against Stolitz when it was simply a CRACKSHIP.

Realistically, Stolitz could never have worked, but it was interesting to see how it could, the problems only started when the entire show began revolving around it, and it only got worse from there.

Now Golden Goose I can see genuine reasons why, especially with Octavia:

The main reason being Mammon genuinely treats her like a daughter, where as Stolas only really does when she's at risk of abandoning her lineage and going on her own path, thus incurring Paimons wrath.

(I'd also like to point out he's just flat out a coward, he's the 5th prince of the ars Goetia)

It was inevitable that some fans would ship Stolitz even from the pilot, what shocked me was Viv literally derailing her show to appease said fans.

Stolas is truly an awful father, I understand both he and Stella were forced to have a child, but that doesn't change the facts.

He's an even worse father than Paimon, at least Paimon tried, his attempts were misguided and shallow due to his worldview, but he genuinely tried and took pride in being a good dad, at least in his own eyes.

Stolas is only seen ignoring his daughter or making excuses and empty promises to change. We never even get concreate confirmation that Stolas wants to be a good dad, just that he's willing to do the bare minimum when Via snaps from how miserable her life is now. Said instances of snapping being her only appearances in the show thus far btw.

Mammon and Stella are both such fascinating characters that deserve better, especially with each other :)

[satoumafuyuss]

Her pride outfit was too cute not to draw even if it’s a little late 💜

[tealvenetianmask]

Hell's royalty has a culture that enables Stella's abusive behavior.

Point 1: Keeping up appearances is valued above all else. And I specifically mean the appearance of things being the way they're supposed to be. Conformity basically.

Conformity in this culture seems to include a kind of stoic dignity ("you know excitement is unbecoming of a goetia"), an air of superiority ("don't bow to that one- he bows to us!"), and, of course, some good old fashioned toxic masculinity ("cease this bitch crying").

Individuals at the very top are not immune. Even though he gets past it, Asmodeus seems to spend a lot of time and effort on keeping his relationship with Fizz quiet in order to keep up the appearance of fulfilling his "lust" role.

Point 2: The members of the aristocracy who don't conform are seen as the problem, not the members who are being cruel.

Speaking of Ozzie, there's a chance he'll face real consequences for getting out of line . . . Mammon seems pretty confident about getting revenge. Also, if Ozzie had decided that his reputation was important enough to avoid stepping in to help his partner, well . . . I'm just saying. Cultures of conformity create bystanders who stand by and let abuse happen. So it's good that this guy has the courage (and a good heap of privilege and power) to enable him to step out. Yes, I realize that the crowd at Mammon's celebrated Ozzie and Fizz, but the crowd was distinctly NOT aristocratic.

Now look at Stella's party- this woman is not subtle about being cruel to her husband.

She calls the party a "Not Divorced" party. She openly talks negatively about Stolas in a blatant attempt to humiliate him. She's not trying to hide that she hates the man.

Because he's . . . an oddball. Gentle, not as polished as others in his social sphere, awkward and mostly friendless, probably autistic. And importantly, I think, not traditionally masculine.

So Stella has no need to hide that she treats him poorly. She's proud of it. And her social circle seems to support her in it, or at least, they don't push back. Because based on the aristocracy's unspoken (or if we look at Paimon, very much spoken) value system, Stolas's failure to fulfill all of his expected roles gracefully is worse than Stella's cruelty.

Point 3: Stolas's parenting, while much better than his own father's, still reflects this value system in some ways, and that's . . . complicated.

In some ways, Octavia is doing great. She has her own interests (music! gothy fashion!) that don't seem to be based on any role prescribed to her by others. She has a genuine bond with her dad that's based on care and not on molding her into some ideal princess.

But Stolas still puts on an facade in front of Via. We know that he pretended things were fine when they distinctly weren't for most of her childhood. We could argue endlessly about whether Stolas was right (as Georgia Dow explained in her video) or wrong to stop himself from explaining the situation with Stella to Via in Loo Loo Land, but honestly, the man could let his nearly grown up daughter know that abuse was happening without all out trauma dumping. It would enable her to make more informed decisions, and I think she would want to be able to do that.

Instead, Stolas keeps it to himself. Because he feels like Via SHOULD have this picture perfect childhood. Look at the pictures that are up in his palace. Look at his attempt to gloss over the fighting in the household by taking Via to an idealized childhood destination.

A part of him still thinks that good parenting is keeping up appearances, and that the ugly things are best kept hidden. Look at how hard he still tries to avoid crying in front of people. The values he was taught as a child are part of him.

And while it's not his fault (it's Stella's fault, obviously- these are HER actions), his inability to be open allows Stella and Andrealphus to scheme and (we'll see . . .) probably manipulate Via because of her lack of knowledge.

We're meant to see the moments where Stolas breaks expectations and behaves raw and even a little unhinged as triumphant. Sleeping with Blitz. That is the sound of a fucking divorce. Actually going through with the fucking divorce. Insisting on it. Appearances be damned.

And yeah, more of that please. Because if the people around Stella stop caring about aristocratic social trappings, all she'll have going for her is her shitty personality.

Thanks @akirathedramaqueen for inspiring this post with a conversation.

[prof-ramses]

I imagine Moxxie being the first to point it out and Blitz tells him off but later tells Stolas that Mox is right and they need a proper gig soon but Stolas just gives him a bunch of money and gaslights him about it.

Also, you know that I wrote this right before going to sleep when I forgot that the word "fulfillment" exists. The fuck is wrong with me?

Now Some More Stuff!!!

Every time Octavia tries to talk to Stolas he interrupts her before she can finish a sentence and reacts to what he assumes she was going to say, which is, of course, something that assumes she agrees with his self-pitying view of his life.

An inverse of the ending of Seeing Stars, as in, Loona's occasional aggression towards the rest of the team is resolved (at least partly) through her interaction both with Blitz and with Via.

I'm still working out the Harvest Moon Festival/Pain Games equivalent, but the idea is that Striker participates to act as a diversion for IMP and potentially someone else who could be after Stella and Octavia, speaking of them, they could be disguised as imps in this segment. Maybe Blitz and Moxxie compete together since Striker taunted them both (I like the idea that it takes Striker some time to respect either of them, making him slightly more dynamic and helping with Moxxie's arc and his dynamic with Blitz)

To clarify the last one, the mid segment of the show would have Blitz slowly realizing he's being exploited while he and the team search for the mother daughter duo since Stolas passive-aggressively threatened and/or guilt-tripped Blitz into feeling he has to find them.

Also, to give Mills some actual characterization and more chemistry with Moxxie, she has MAD shop skills, customizing IMP's weapons and later her family tell her she can't be in the Pain Games... Because she' been chosen as the lead organizer, which in Wrath's super rugged nature, means she literally constructs all the event courses herself.

More Song Ideas!

A comedy ensemble number with all of IMP in act 1 with them doing a regular hit.

Another comedic song with Blitz, Moxxie and Striker in the pain games, maybe Millie's family joins in during the chorus. While still comedic, this one would mainly develop Moxxie and to lesser extent, the other guys.

Of course, Stolas has a proper villain song (one that starts with him pouting that Via is mad that he forgot something she was excited for, Azatoth's Tears or otherwise). The song itself would have Stolas lament relatively small things in his life while saying that "Blitzy" makes him forget them, tacitly admitting that he views Octavia as a problem, and how he's happy that Blitz is his and his alone, and that that's perfectly just since it makes up for his own personal suffering.

Both a song and a joke, Moxxie tries to sing to Millie multiple times and gets interrupted each time. However, he only starts the song once, every other time he sings it it's actually the next verse, a non-live viewer could piece it together and the song could be a bonus on the soundtrack.

Rest assured, there will be more to come.

More ideas for "Helluva A Rewritten Musical":

Jokes, Running Gags and Story Moments With A Comedic Twist :

After the Ozzie's equivalent Stolas' actor would wear a different wig after every two scenes, with each having more grey feathers than the last, until, by his final scene, all his hair/feathers are grey

The first time we see the M&Ms is their morning routine, Millie enters the scene first, with curlers/rollers in her hair, then Moxxie enter with curlers/rollers in his hair AND in his sideburns.

Wally appears a few times, he's exactly the same as in the show but has a much deeper voice to contrast with the high-pitched, scratchy voice Don Darryl Rivera does in the actual series

We only see Andre once, during a half and half split of the stage to show his phone conversation with Stella, later, in hiding (Yes, I'm going with that idea for the time being), Via asks why they could ask him for help and Stella reveals he got in hot water for drunkenly hitting on one of his cousins.

If we go down the Strella route, we could have some early bonding when Striker hisses at a minor frustration and Stella very obviously finds it attractive, because both snakes and swans hiss as a defense mechanism. In response to this Octavia let's out a sharp exhale that ends up sounding like a hoot.

A member of IMP pointing out how little actual hits they've been carrying out since getting pulled into the divorce drama, poking fun at the show abandoning it's original premise, maybe build on it by having Stolas be the only character who doesn't seen an issue with that.

Song Ideas (The Good Stuff):

An opening number or at least early song where Blitz sings about how, by running his own business, he has freedom to make good life for himself. The song would immediately be followed by some form of bad news.

A flashback duet between young Stolas and Stella, meeting for the first time, promising to make their situation work. Stella's lyrics make it clear she hopes that she will find some form of personal fufilled-ness in the relationship, while Stolas' make it clear that he plans on taking every chance to distract himself from what will be his family.

Striker having a song where he tries to console Via, because he can tell that she is in no way personally responsible for the shit she's going through, big stepdad energy, slightly more comedic elements towards the end of the song. This would play into Striker's arc, realizing that not all royals ae truly malicious and finding sympathy for them because he comes to view them as too sheltered for their own good.

A climactic duet between Striker and Blitz, after Blitz realizes that Stolas is a complete shitsack, during the song they're fighting over a blessed revolver to see who gets to kill the jizz-soaked feather duster.

That's all I got for now, more to come :D

Very beautiful. Your mind. Your vision.

Especially the meta commentary I NEED that scene to happen

[trisiyamoon]

🖤💀😈

[savzo]

The boysss and their girls