#get Batman a therapist

[yanderelovebites]

Trigger warning: grooming, selfharm, SA, implied underage (17)

Also implied Christian Reader just in case

R-baby neglected batsis plot dump—I honestly just kept typing until I couldn’t think further lol

Yandere brothers, Bruce isn’t Yandere just mentally unstable

I saw someone write about a ‘what if Bruce was groomed and he protects the kids from same groomers’ post and it inspired me for a plot of Neglected Batsis.

Same idea, Bruce is groomed but by an older woman when he was still rather young and she got pregnant with his kid. Never admits it’s his because she was just manipulating Bruce and when it’s obvious she’s his because of her features and such, Bruce is thrown with the child. You’d think the woman would face justice but no, she’s wealthy too so she uses the corrupt justice system to just have to pay out and she isn’t allowed to see her baby.

That’s why batsis is neglected. She came from something so horrific he can’t look at her, he can barely call her his daughter. For him, she’s just a reminder. It leads Alfred to taking care of her and at first… she doesn’t question it because the first few years she’s young. A kid.

Then Dick who is older than her by some years comes in the picture. Freshly lost his parents, she tried to connect to the best of her five year old ability but she’s only five. She doesn’t understand death or loss. She doesn’t even connect herself to her own father. He snaps at her and she doesn’t try again.

The neglect never seems to end even at events. She’s left alone when she’s old enough to go but that brings problems. No one protects her. At some point the people targeting her get bolder. The worst part? Her mother would by this time would no longer be pushed out thanks to the court mandated restraining order expiring and she’s not necessarily targeting her, but is definitely encouraging her friends to.

Batsis would endure this silently until Jason finds out. It would start as him thinking Damian struck her again with his katana and he’d confront Damian about the rules. Damian would obviously deny and say she probably was being clumsy or something. Damian would have been very dismissive at first as he didn’t see his older half sister as important, their father doesn’t even like talking about her. It’s like she’s just a picture he doesn’t want to look at , but feels obligated to keep up. Jason keeps eyes on her and continues his interrogation over to Tim because he has a bad feeling.

Tim would suggest bringing it up to Alfred, getting annoyed with Jason for worrying over someone he sees as a bum, someone he sees as a worthless person in the house. He long tuned anything about her out, he doesn’t know anything about her currently. He doesn’t know her hobbies, her grades, her dreams or goals, hell he doesn’t even know she participates in charity work like volunteering at the local soup kitchens or what she’s doing on these ‘trips’ she goes on every once in a while.

Jason would ignore him and try Dick next, who by his adulthood would have a sense of guilt for his actions when he was younger, but was never able to move himself to apologize to batsis. It’s also very easy to forget her. Dick would say he hasn’t noticed anything new, and after hearing Damian also denied doing anything Dick goes with Jason to ask Alfred about it.

Alfred’s hand would twitch. Much like Bruce was a son to him, he couldn’t help but get a similar attachment to Batsis. Sure, Bruce chose to keep her and provide her what she needs, but Alfred was the one to raise her. In many ways he would never voice, he was more her father than Bruce. When he hears the news, he’s reminded of that time when her mother had ruined Bruce. He would try to approach this to her, but she’d deny deny deny, just like her father did.

He’d later try to discuss it with Bruce who also dismisses it as soon as he mentions her name. He didn’t want to know, he didn’t even get to tell him why he brought her up—no idea it was about her wellbeing. Jason would check in next time he visits and be pissed off hearing she wouldn’t say a damn thing and Bruce was being a bitch, a child about it. Instead of invading her space, as he knew they weren’t close, he started to stalk her outside the house.

Nothing of substance happens, not related to what he saw. Alfred is still worried but without knowledge he can’t tell Alfred what was truly going on. Jason didn’t know what possessed him to care suddenly, maybe just someone outside the family doing this irritated him? Or the fact she was the only person who shouldn’t be hurt like that?

He gets to know her, how she’s very faithful to her faith and goes to church Wednesdays and Sundays without exception. How she’s well liked by the older women in the fellowship and her ‘work’ outside it. He learned that work was volunteering at the soup kitchen but she’s never been announced doing this.

Jason sees she loves medical documentaries, tv shows, and follows social media doctors on her social media, which was private. He couldn’t figure out what could have happened even began wondering if Damian lied until a banquet he also spied in on that everyone else went to, except him because he was ‘dead’.

That’s where the problem was. He saw Bruce keeping an eye on the boys, even though dick was a damn adult and he saw he didn’t even pay attention to what was happening to her. She was surrounded by some men he remembers he was told to stay away from back when he went to these stupid things. There he’d see a woman who only encouraged the men and Jason wanted to throw up.

They were grabbing, groping, just doing things they shouldn’t ever be doing. The woman reminded Jason a bit of batsis, especially the eyes, but she took more of Bruce’s traits. He about had it seeing them try to make her drink something when he called Dick.

Dick would be annoyed at first since he knew Jason wasn’t at the banquet. Then he hears what Jason was saying and Dick looks in the crowd and sees what’s going on. He can tell you’re uncomfortable, trying to find a way out—anything to use as a way out of what was happening. He almost lost his cool too. He would get in between the men and spoke as calmly as he could about them touching his little sister. He pulled her out from there.

While Jason lit the fuse, he was not the first to get obsessed; it’s Dick. Dick was already feeling guilty for his shit attitude towards batsis when they were just little kids, but to find they were getting hurt because none of them paid enough mind? He had taken her to a family bathroom and insisted he check her. He found everything on her body, or at least without getting her naked. He saw the bruises and the cuts. He asked if she drank anything they gave her and she’d tell him about the champagne they forced her to drink. He could see the bruises forming along her chin from that too. She never felt such concern from any of them, she was utterly surprised. He did take camera evidence of the bruises and cuts, just in case it’s needed, he told her.

Next, unsurprisingly is Jason who isn’t afraid to mention he roughed the guys up a week later as it boiled in his mind. Damian is still annoyed by this as well as Tim, they didn’t get it. Alfred had her excused from school for a few days to properly let her heal. Dick came by more often or stayed longer to speak with her. He never did that before yet Jason wasn’t quite where Dick was.

Alfred would eventually be disgusted further as Jason shows a picture of all parties involved, but none of the men made him angry or disgusted as the woman. At first the boys thought it was a woman standing by or even participating, but were sick to the stomach when Alfred explained the woman involved was batsis’s own mother. He tells the boys what she had done to Bruce and it explained so much to Jason and Dick, but obviously it didn’t mean she deserved it. Batsis isn’t her mom, why didn’t Bruce just see someone to get through it? Alfred then said “He still doesn’t know, he won’t let me speak a word about her to him.”

This only further infuriates Jason. This would trigger the more intense feelings he has surrounding this and her. Mind you, Jason himself until that point hadn’t really interacted with her. Jason leaves in a rage? Takes her with him. It does make Tim and Damian upset since usually he wants to be alone, why were they dragging the loser along?

Jason would teach her how to hold and use a pistol. After what happened he’d want her to have some way to defend herself. He wouldn’t really apologize for the past, that’s just not how Jason is. He isn’t like Dick who is a bit more comfortable with that stuff, he’s a bit more stonewall than him. After the pistol lessons he’d drop her off at home after they get ice cream.

For me Tim would eventually crack try to figure out what the living hell could have slipped Jason’s and Dick’s switches on her and first logically updates his knowledge on her. He sees her schoolwork and is actually surprised. He never took her for the academic type and she clearly had a trajectory towards the medical field based on the classes she was taking. Hell, they’re apparently in the same mathematics, which makes sense since she’s older and for his age it’s advanced. What annoys him is she’s better grade wise. Then there’s her personal life, he sees the church activities she’s been a part of, the church related trips turned out to be missions typical of most churches. Helping out communities outside the country and spreading the word as they did so. He sees her charity work at the soup kitchen and all before seeing how accurate he was in thinking she wanted to go to the medical field, everything she liked on social media related to doctors and she loved medical shows—documentaries to just medical drama. He never really thought there may be more to her than what he saw until then. He always called her useless and a bum, but he ends up rethinking that realizing he was mad that she didn’t need to be a vigilante to be under the Wayne’s wings. He was being unfair for no reason other than his own spite.

Then he speaks to Alfred… because maybe he in formed one of them? He was just curious how the other two found out and is utterly winded by the real reason. He remembers the injury that was brought up but hadn’t thought much of it. She had been SA-ed at the banquets? Alfred shows the bruises Dick had found on her through the photos he sent and her cuts. He felt sick, staring at each deep purple and black bruises, some actually in the form of a hand.

He couldn’t see her the same at all after all that. He also wasn’t the best at giving apologies, but not because he couldn’t do, he just failed at sounding completely sincere and not forced. This leads back to Damian still getting annoyed by them and Bruce hears about it, is confused but because it involves her he blanks it out. It actually is quite alarming how he does it and even Tim who tries to say something can’t get him to listen. He mutters about him needing to see a damn therapist. Especially when he remembers what Alfred said about one of the abusers, while not directly, was her own mother. As he saw it they both have trauma from her so you’d think they could bond over it, but with how Bruce has been handling it… in his mind if he was keeping the baby, he should at least have tried. It’s clear he never did.

I feel like Damian would be the last before Bruce to come around. I debated if him or Bruce would, but it would definitely be Damian… it just would take more time. More accurately it would be three months after Tim came around, that he actually finds anything out about her. What happened was an attack downtown and he was involved of course while Batman handled another further up town. They thought it easier and while it was handled, Damian was legitimately hurt. She happened to be working at the soup kitchen that night and found him. Usually she was timid to Damian, but when she saw his arm she hushed him and told him to be quiet while she does some on scene first aid. She made a tourniquet to stop the bleeding and later Red Robin found them. Tim would comment on the scene clearly, but aside from insulting Damian for poor performance to annoy the brat, he would comment her time learning at ‘the’ center since she turned 18 must have helped a lot. She says “This is literally covered in nursing I at school, Tim.” Tim will respond “Hey, don’t smack my compliment like that.”

Damian never had seen her actually talk like that. He had never seen any version of her but the one who hides behind the timid and scared barriers she had put up—especially after he had struck her when he first arrived. Damian is taken home to recover but now he’s annoyed by something else. What else is she hiding? Why did she immediately revert back to that timid posture when they got home?

Dick eventually would ask how Damian’s doing and Damian would snip at him for information. Dick would sigh, trying to think of a way to explain. Sure he’s someone violent and willing to kill… but he’s still a kid. He had to explain things with a certain tone.

He first asked Damian if he remembers the men his father told them to stay away from and would sometimes get inbetween if they approached. When Damian nods, Dick explains he never warned or did the same for Batsis, he thinks he didn’t even notice. At the last banquet that Batsis attended, he caught a chunk of those same men and a horrible woman that Bruce had a bad history with, not explaining it was her mother.

Damian saw the pictures too. Mind you, he isn’t immediately jumping into this either. He at first just understood the basis for the sudden protective nature they had. Someone had hurt a family member, it’s natural to get offensive especially when they’re not one of them. The line started when he asked what got Tim involved to Tim and he said it wasn’t actually the incident but the sudden research. Showed him everything and he was stunned. Sure, she wasn’t impressive by what he grew up knowing, but considering her upbringing she was an incredible person. Over the next two months he slowly warmed up to her, the last two weeks of which were easier once he found out Jason taught her how to shoot guns. She was best with a pistol, but she could shoot.

It’s not like she was his favorite, but he admits he is protective at that point. To the point he found himself going off on Bruce one day when Alfred mentioned she was starting medical school, which he couldn’t even get to that part before Bruce reminded him. Damian thought it was getting ridiculous, didn’t see why no one could even talk about his sister with him. It surprised Bruce to hear it from him, Jason he understood well by then, but from Damian?

She was gone for college one morning and Bruce forced himself to look in her room. He sees a plethora of items from her Bible and Jesus cross statue on her desk, a stack of medical books and he sees an old calendar and looks at the markers. They mentioned things like soup kitchens, church missions, church events, reminders for college. On her desk were also acceptance letters. He looked through the names, but one had labeled her a free ride. Followed was two scholarships from church groups, 500 dollars on one and another 700 dollars on the other. He was surprised, he never knew any of this. Then he thinks to himself ‘I never let anyone tell me.’

He sees pictures, all of them included Alfred. From simple birthday pictures, to prom, to graduation. Some that didn’t have Alfred was her in a group photo with mission kids and some at the soup kitchen, some older lady was affectionately pinching her cheek. In a recent picture, her graduation from high school, Alfred, Dick, and Tim were there and there was a picture of her and Jason at some shooting range.

He looks away only to notice the medical posters, the medical dramas and documentaries stashed on the bookshelves. He couldn’t help but look back at the pictures, specifically the prom photo. He knew it was hard looking at her because she’d look like her mom, or at least he told himself that. Yet he looks into her prom photo, the picture of Alfred, her and a blond haired boy and he couldn’t see a lot of that horrible woman; only the eyes shown any resemblance. Yet he couldn’t see himself either really. He looked at her and tried to think where he’d seen it before.

Alfred would interrupt and comment on not expecting him to be there. He’d tell him what Damian said hit him hard so he decided to look at her room when she isn’t here. Alfred hummed to that and he asked what she was planning on doing in college. Alfred said “Well, Master Bruce, she’s going to medical school. She wants to be surgeon, if you’re going to ask.”

I feel like this would still not put him in the right space, but it would bother him enough. He’d eventually be in a situation where he talks to Superman about it and Clark is basically like “So the guy who told me to cut Conner some slack and try… can’t even look at his own biological daughter …? I’m sorry, Bats, but you need heavy therapy if she’s spent her whole life essentially being shunted because of one woman’s actions. She isn’t responsible for what happened, she was just a result. You can’t punish her for that.”

From here I don’t really have a clearer idea, I know I’d have Reformed-attempt Harley maybe being his therapist (aka Harley who is done with Joker) and the trigger to him truly going to therapy was an incident where he had to catch an unconscious batsis and instead of seeing batsis’s mom when he caught her, he saw his mom, Martha.

Also wanna make it a later storyline shipping but don’t know who yet since I’d need to figure out everyone’s ages by this point (timelines are confusing lmao)

As you can tell, and guess, the brothers would all kill for Batsis by the time Bruce starts to open up to her and therapy. Jason nearly did back at the banquet. Dick, if he ever dies, would’ve been on accident. And no baby bird nicknames, doesn’t really make sense since she doesn’t participate in the Batman life. Tim would psychologically torture and cause they to do something dangerous that gets them killed. Much like Jason, Damian has no problem or issue in just killing someone for her, only that is his objective unlike Jason. That’s all I have so far, I only warned about the religious stuff since it’s part of her character and some people do have religious trauma and I didn’t want to accidentally trigger anything.

[spidey-webs]

Not to get into it again, but adding on the Tower of Babel thing: the "Bruce looks down on Hal" thing is so lame compared to their canon dynamic between the 90s and 2010s, aka Bruce spending over a decade of comics being fucking terrified of Hal.

It's so much less interesting than the reality of Bruce being terrified of Hal and what he's capable of. Bruce spiraling into crippling paranoia every time Hal does literally anything, whether it's rewriting reality or doing Spectre-stuff or talking to his ex-girlfriend. Bruce squirming and gnashing his teeth and losing all rationality over the slightest suspicious Hal-related activity. Brcue being vulnerable to Parasite!Parallax's influence because of his paranoia about Hal. Bruce constantly jumping to the worst possible conclusion about Hal, and sometimes being right, and sometimes being wrong, and how that fucked with Bruce on the deepest psychological level and took a lot of time and conversations with other heroes to get through.

Just...Bruce's inability to cope with Hal's plunge into supervillainy bringing out the worst him. How he doesn't dare hope or trust again so instead he doubles down on what he knows are his own worst tendencies.

Bruce saying shit like:

The feared Batman fearing the man without fear!

This dynamic is infinitely more fun and interesting than anything I've seen made that’s based on 5 minutes of animated movie (that doesn't even know how Green Lantern powers work), or fandom osmosis (have no idea how powerful Hal Jordan is), or some infamously out of character comic they saw out of context on tiktok one time (really, really doesn't even know how Green Lantern powers work or how powerful Hal Jordan is)

But obviously dealing with the baggage of Parallax isn't for everyone, but even after everything got rebooted, it's not like Bruce doesn't respect Hal:

Or, you know, there's other aspects of their dynamic that are really really funny:

High Drama Bickering!

Sulky Batfrowns!

Bruce's many, many "YOU'RE NOT A GOD!" moments!

And Clark being so so so sick of Bruce's Hal Issues!

[violent138]

Love that the Batfam consistently ruins and is largely incompatible with any and all of Alfred's attempts to nuclearify the family.

[agerasiaa]

legacy? no babe, that’s just the trauma pipeline with extra steps. and lifelong performance review I never asked for

[atelier-melvalda]

She gets her like no one else ever did

[finz-art]

More comic practice, yay! Yeah, so, turns out touch can at times be a huge trigger for Eddie due to some past trauma ;-;🖤

[writerformanymuses]

me, with cirilla of cintra in one arm, the vampire claudia in the other, and jason todd on my back, doing my best samwise gamgee voice: i can't save me from my childhood trauma, but i can save you!

[dailyjasontodd]

Hi! I saw your last post's tags, and I was wondering, what was your favourite theory for Robin Lives? How did it get debunked? Somehow I haven't seen proper speculation for this comic, only criticism 🥲

Oh my very early first theory (like literally thought about it after reading the very first issue) was that Jason's therapist would kill the joker, there was a page that could've been really neat foreshadowing if it went that route, but well. -🐅

[heres-the-marvel-tea]

Someone get Dick away from All Star Batman STAT

[griffle-musings]

The Drake Charm

Duke: *looking over at a portrait of Jack and Tim that Babs has for some reason*

Duke: you know.

Babs: hm.

Duke: I know I'm not the only one who thinks this, but are we really sure Tim and Bruce aren't related, I mean-

Babs: No, Duke, Tim just takes after his mother.

Babs: Also we've done too many DNA tests, with and without their knowledge. No relation.

Duke: huh. It's just, weird, isn't it? I mean, they really don't look that alike.

Babs: Genetics can be weird, Duke. Plus, Tim takes after Jack in different ways.

Duke: How so?

*flashback- Police Charity Ball*

Jim Gordon: *rumpled and missing his bow tie* Barbara there you are- listen, Officer Michael is going to take you home, as Daddy has to go take care of some...paperwork.

Younger Barbara: Dad I'm twelve not two- Wait, where have you been, and why's your tie missing-?

Jack Drake: *enters, messy and wearing Jim's tie and with Officer Michaels* Jim, shall we go?

Jim:

Younger Barbara:

Jim: Be good, I love you sweetie *leaves with Jack*

Officer Michaels:

Barbara:

Officer Michaels: You know it's not paperwork your dad is doing, right-

Barbara: Officer Michaels, kindly shut your mouth up.

*End of Flashback*

Babs: Too much charisma and not enough sense, for starters.

Duke: ?

[figofswords]

anybody remember the stephanie brown essay I was working on under a research grant fully last summer? yeah it’s not done yet it super needs to be done and I’ve been avoiding working on it for weeks. someone tell me to just do it already

[kstarlitchaotics]

Nah I will always say that if the most paranoid family of all DC can't admit that they are traumatized by any means necessary -besides Dick since YJ did that for him with Dinah- then how in the world are they supposed to open up their ways to a stranger who will not be much help if they themselves don't admit to it that they need the help

I mean if the people around them can't convince them nor themselves then how on earth will a stranger do it cause I'm no expert but I'm sure step one is admitting you have a issue if you want to resolve it and I don't think they ever will

[kittythelitter]

Batman AU where Bruce's parents survive and he ends up being a psychiatrist (after seeing many to recover from the trauma of his parents being shot in front of him) with a passion for improving infrastructure in Gotham because of all the things that went wrong and almost killed his parents that night.

He can't clean the police but he can find good people to do psych evals and push for them to be More frequent.

He can't adopt every kid he sees but he can make sure there are safe homes for them and register as a foster parent so he can take care of kids who need extra help.

Like the girl who can't speak. And the neglected child next door. The traumatized son of murdered acrobats, and that one fiery kid who tried to steal his tires.

He gets all his kids, some just temporarily.

He still has Damian because he known for being brilliant in the field of psychology but also as someone with great economic and social influence who isn't a politician but Gotham might as well be his kingdom with the way he runs it.

He's also still in fighting shape.

Maybe not as much as most Bruce Waynes but in a world where Alfred pennyworth didn't have to raise Bruce Wayne he became sort of a fun honorary uncle (who was maybe dating his parents) even after he quit being a butler. And as Bruce Waynes fun uncle he taught Bruce all his special forces moves in the hopes of helping a scared little boy feel a little safer and more able to defend himself. This of course sparked a lifelong love of martial arts.

In this world Bruce is a doting parent, a powerful social influencer, a leader in philanthropy and vocationally, a psychiatrist.

Though most of his time is not spent with patients. He teaches workshops. So many. Mental wellness, aiding people with mental illnesses, helping your child cope with trauma.

He teaches several workshops that are mandatory for Gotham police and some that are highly sought after by social workers. Hes also a popular guest professor at GU.

Aside from teaching he has helped create, revamp, and strengthen Gotham city's publicly available mental health resources like clinics, support groups etc. But his most impressive work is the one day each week he spends treating the patients at Arkham Mental Health Hospital and Rehabilitation Center (formerly Arkham Asylum).

Anyway. This Bruce Wayne accidentally falls into another universe, finds out about all the Batman. And starts dedicating one day a month to being a therapist and mental health educator to that Batman and one or two weeks every few months to going to other universes and trying to see if he can add other batmen as patients.

"Who better to help you with this than a you who is internationally renowned in this field. I might not be Batman but i am you and i went to college for 10 years on this exact subject so I'm objectively better informed in this than you while also being one of the only people you can trust to help you. "

[lil-gingerbread-queen]

Me: *talks about something that happened recently and I struggled way more than other people do*

My psychiatrist: Not to scare you, but... That's screams austism, like a lot.

Me: *literally asked her a couple of months ago to help me try to get a diagnosis (we need our psychiatrist or doctor to write a note to get tested here) but she refused because she didn't see signs in me* No, really?

[ccorinthian]

I think The Penguin is a fairly decent show but I really wish there was a freak

[ladyantiheroine]

Bruce Wayne is truly the embodiment of "men will literally do anything but go to therapy."