#anti vivzie

[moldy-lemons]

oooo the misogyny is strong here

[yourfavouritemotherlyanti]

Nah doing your DeviantArt original character rp sesh in what is supposed to be a professional business email and telling your customer to "fuck off" whilst waiting for their playbill is crazy lmao/Neg.

[vivziepopcriticalconfessions]

"Go fuck yourself."

Submitted by anonymous

[randomfandom123go]

Some Helluva/Hazbin stans… respond to criticism of their goddess somewhat like her. So basically I was in AyyLmao’s server and I asked about people getting banned just because they don’t like Viv, and someone responded oh it’s just the people who have a deep hatred of her and are rude and stuff. And then they asked me what I don’t like about in a fair debate. So I composed a large list of stuff that I could see has proof attached to it, and sent that in. They got mad. Instead of saying, “oh, that isn’t true because…” they said nothing’s of its true and called a mod. Was I rude to anyone in the server? No. Was I harassing anyone? No. So what was stopping them from simply proving my claims weren’t true. My message got deleted but luckily I had copied it so it’s in the images below. If any of these things aren’t true please reblog with proof so I know for the future.

[angellic-critique]

Reminder that this is the level of drag 'representation' angel dust gives :/

This is bottom of the barrel feminization towards drag performing arts :/

And since helluva boss fans are only do passive as to read everything at surface level only here is the Spitting definition of drag queens/kings

At no point is it intrinsically all about just sexual performance or sexual drive, it can be a factor or a small portion but it is not just a large generalization as much as people are trying to make drag performing seem to be.

Drag is an art form. It is a statement. It is a person of beauty and the love and appreciation of fashion and expression!

Angel Dust is the complete opposite of sex workers or drag performers at all! If AD is supposed to resemble the theme of abuse in industry [something she already failed to portray with fizzerolli] and the toll that sex workers and addicts within the industry for that matter, we have no clue how he will act in Hazbin but the sneak peek of him in leather gives me no hope if the implication is that he will purely be centered around valentinos abuse. Considering someone on the team ship's and actively adores the ship that is Angel x Valentino

How can you claim to support sex workers while actively seeing them as purely fetishism gay yaoi bait THAT YOU ACTIVELY MERCHANDISE AS """SEXY""":/

There is nothing to angel dust besides the appeal of a feminine man being sexually abused.

[pastel-kaleesh]

Welcome to Trashbin Hotel we got horrible writing, repeated color palletes, a literal rapist that people simp for, whitewashed biblical figures, harmful stereotypes, racism, offensive caricatures of actual people, fetishized queer characters, fetish in general, a creator that's a rip-off JK Rowling, a fandom full of proshippers, transphobia and more.

Would you dare to step in?

[mccloudyyy]

If Vivziepop let other people design her characters than the show would atleast be a tiny bit better (the shows writing is a whole other thing to fix)

Like she's got an appealing art style but for the love of God ENOUGH WITH THE STRIPES

[pleasantspark]

Also Viv once claims that kids don't go to hell yet Vaggie got into trouble because she hesitated to kill a kid sinner

And the fanbase tries to explain "it's a hellborn"

but they also forgot that Hellborns are exempt from killings. How can a hellborn be targeted? Make it make sense.

We should already not trust what VivziePop says.

[enixamyram]

I have tried really hard to ignore anti nonsense. I just wanna focus on the good and positive side of this fandom and just enjoy the series in general. But it's also hard bottling up thoughts when I'm used to ranting for the sake of getting my thoughts and feelings out and moving then on.

So I'm gonna put a couple reactions to Anti-Related Hazbin things under the read more just to get them out! Because my god, some of these are bullshit!

Chaggie - I've seen so much bullshit citicizm for this ship. People claiming they're boring or bland or badly written and I have yet to see a legit reason why other than that they don't have any typical relationship drama (which, for the record, I personally am so relieved about) or because they're not being overly affectionate every five minutes of screen time. And you know, this especially drives me crazy because they have some of the sweetest little gestures, whether it be holding hands, hugging, swinging each other round or even just the constant damn heart eyes they have when looking at each other in the background! They're so damn precious and if you can't see that, you don't know what a legit established relationship is supposed to be past the honeymoon phase.

Charlie - People once again have claimed she's badly written. I don't know why people seem to hate happy kind hearted females so much but I have seen this exact complaint about many characters who are similar to her. None of which are actually badly written. They're just not the new stereotype "bad asses" that seems to be the only acceptable way to write a female character lately. Which is ironic since a lot of the so called "bad ass" female characters I have seen are often so one dimensional. Yet we have Charlie, a kind hearted but also sometimes naive girl who is doing her best while also learning with the rest of her friends and ya'll are gonna try and claim she's not amazing? The more I rewatch the show, the more I wanna reschedule my favorite character list because there's not a second I don't adore having her on my screen.

Niffty - This one really makes me want to slam my head against the wall. I have seen so many people complain and claim she acts like a child. Bare in mind, I've just watched episode 3 - you know, the one where Niffty is fully ready to throw herself into the BDSM that Angel takes them to. The only thing close to evidence that I have seen for her acting like a child is the episode where she gets drunk except she's still not acting like a child there, she's acting like a drunk! When some people are drunk they're silly and dumb and very "child-like". Otherwise, the only reason I think people call her a child is because she's is literally small like one. Yet, if you actually look at anything past her basic physical appearance, she's a crazy murder machine and I don't know many children I can also give that title to.

Angel - This is so old and everyone else has said this all so much better than me but I just really want to repeat: Just because it's not YOUR representation doesn't mean it's BAD representation. Just because you dealt with your sexual assault in a certain way does not mean everyone deals with it that way and it sure as hell doesn't give you a right to dismiss others. I have seen so many people say they identify with Angel's character and his hypersexuality, so it is so annoyingly arrogant to see people trying to shut them down entirely because Angel's character isn't portraying their personal reactions. It's just so amazingly self-centered to be saying that if you can't personally relate to it exactly, then it shouldn't exist at all. Seriously, grow the fuck up.

Loser Baby/Poison - Again, this has been said so many times before by other people but I'm gonna add/repeat. Some people take these songs and videos so damn literally. I saw someone claim Angel was happy during his dance with Valentino in Poison which apparently made the whole character a contradiction? Completely ignoring the parts where he's clearly miserable or the part where he's clearly putting on a fake smile or even the part where he all out says he dissociates to get through. And then you have Loser Baby where people are outraged that Husk call Angel a loser and is apparently trying to compare their situations? I mean, he's obviously not saying they're situations are the same if you think about it for more than two seconds. Like, are you seriously this literal? If I said the message went over your head, would ya'll look up?

[moldy-lemons]

A page inside the Hazbin Hotel playbill :

Seems kinda ironic, doesn’t it?

[tamaruaart]

Hazbin Hotel wishes it was Dante's inferno

[godzillagamer2012]

If you want more dark or gore (or something).

Go watch the Evil Dead and Friday the 13th and A Nightmare On Elm Street Franchise, go watch, it way better horror than hellaverse.

But if you want something different.

Go watch monster inc and toy story 1-3, TMNT original movie (1-2), deadpool, superman movies or other different disney, go to watch, it emotionally better and funny.

[malesshit]

Hazbin/Helluva antis:

Look how Valentino is r*ping Angel, look at how uncomfortable Angel looks. Surely this is a romantization of r*pe and Vivzie is problematic!

Also Hazbin/Helluva antis:

Why didn’t Vivzie make the sympathetic character a r*pist!? This is bad writting! I need Ozzie to SA Fizz or else it’s not accurate to demonology!

[tardlard]

hazbin hotel redesign part 2/?? (since i felt creative and the last one was received okay! lore below :3)

BACKGROUND: husk was a gambling addict when he was alive, surrounding himself with "hang in there" posters whenever situations got tough and being able to sneakily cheat in solitaire (which is why hes a cat lolzies) -now in hell, he made a living by becoming an overlord of the pride ring's casino motel, but then met alastor. the two got along, but its clearly toxic from how alastor treats the poor guy. husk stays by the radio demon's side nonetheless, the two becoming really bad business partners and 'friends'. (his soul isnt owned hurrah) -alastor drags him and nifty to the happy hotel, run by the dynamis angel charlie morningstar. he decides to roll with it, becoming an overlord sponsor and the hotel's bartender. 👍

DESIGN CHOICES: i wanted husk to look more like a bartender and a gambler, changing his attire and giving him an actual shirt :3 -his design originally wasnt that bad (surprise it wasn't made entirely by vivzie), but i felt like it was a little too cluttered and bland at the same time -i feel like he shouldn't be so skinny, considering he's supposed to be an alcoholic who loves cheap booze, so i fattened him up a bit :3 -his claw is supposed to act as a cork screw since he works at the hotel bar -i removed his wings, i just felt like they didnt fit his design or theme well (sorry wing lovers -made his color palette less red, adding in some gold n green -FUCK THE TOPHAT BRO LET HIS HAIR BREATHE -i didn't give him shoes despite him being an overlord n all, but its due to cats sweating through their feet and using their paws as a stealth advantage!!

CONCEPT SO FAR: -so, charlie goes to the seraphim and blabbers out her ideas, faithful in heaven being accepting and fully siding with her dream. but, approval's iffy, and it takes a while before heaven decides to go along with it (albeit they shit on her constantly for it). sent down with keekee, now her trusty book of sinner backgrounds and hotel embodiment/key, she gets to work on advertising her happy hotel!!! -first to arrive to the hotel is vedika (my vaggie rename), a fallen angel with the intent of guarding charlie and providing for the hotel itself. (not revealing she was an exterminator, and now these lesbians get SLOW BURN) -as they advertise, the infamous radio demon finds the idea of an angel wanting to redeem SINNERS entertaining, so he shows up and drags along husker and nifty to help around. (hes more evil here, me and my homies HATE alastor) -then they find a demon to bring along as the example/star of the redemption idea, angel dust (now more related to his mafia background, no more porn jokes guys11!!), and attempting to get him clean so heaven doesnt make fun of charlie as much feel free to critique me! im not the brightest in character design, so it'd be helpful to get any tips and tricks with my design! be nice tho, im just a gyal might do another 😋(is it obvious i had a warrior cats phase)

[rainbow-wolf120]

where is the first king in the au bro i need him

-@crazycuttle

Here he is bro

He’s Carmilla Carmine. I thought this would work because he’s

A. Old and wise. He also has experience in battling and combat in general because (in the Rayman lore) he was around before Rayman, so the Teensies must have been able to defend for themselves

B. Going off the theory that Carmilla is a fallen angel like Vaggie, First King being an ex-Grand Minimus would fit.

C. Uhhhh cause Carmilla slays and so does First King??? I sorta had two solid points and everything else being teehee

Also, a glimpse at one of the Vees! (Or, Rhs in this case). André is Velvette because they’re both snobbish assholes who are probably one of the trends and stuff (He references Zelda in R3. Like, come on)

Like I said before, these are my opinions and ideas. Feel free to disagree ^^

[angelicassassinations]

Imagine they send out another email saying there's a delay with the playbills

I-

Lmao I wouldn't put it above them. But then Viv would receive more backlash and that can't ever never never happen! :(((((((((/sarc