#anti vivzie

[moldy-lemons]

does anybody think that the fight scene with the ice monster is weirdly similar to the scene from disney’s hercules where he fights the hydra?

JUST LOOK :

[ first part of the video is hercules, second part is helluva boss ]

[yourfavouritemotherlyanti]

Nah doing your DeviantArt original character rp sesh in what is supposed to be a professional business email and telling your customer to "fuck off" whilst waiting for their playbill is crazy lmao/Neg.

[vivziepopcriticalconfessions]

"Go fuck yourself."

Submitted by anonymous

[xjulixred45x]

You know something that really bothers me about Hazbin Hotel Lucifer? Is that he actually make sense in the first half of the episode and it make me like him!

We know that Lucifer brings the free will to humans, but why he did that for? Feeling better about himself than the elders? To prove a point? Just for the sake of it? It could really show how of a unrealable narrator he is. Showing His selfish action as an altruistic choice.

When he is casted away in hell, he has EVERY RIGHT to be pissed that His plan didn't work out, why? Bc humans WITH FREE WILL are more propence to be SINFULL! Proving that he was wrong! And Even though he bring this upon humanity never really takes responsabilty!

That's a Sin of Pride that i like! He trow the stone but hide the Hand. And now it's stuck with HIS mistakes, but blames it on the humans for being sinfull (it's hypocrytal, at the same time makes sense, i loved it!).

The fact that he himself says that the sinners are THE WORST, that they have FREE WILL to do all the horrible things that send them to HELL(bc after all NOBODY WHO IS IN HELL IS INNOCENT) it's such a wasted plot line and it could have so much more INTERESTING for the plot of all of the first season.

But noooo, lets have the war with fucking heaven---

[randomfandom123go]

Some Helluva/Hazbin stans… respond to criticism of their goddess somewhat like her. So basically I was in AyyLmao’s server and I asked about people getting banned just because they don’t like Viv, and someone responded oh it’s just the people who have a deep hatred of her and are rude and stuff. And then they asked me what I don’t like about in a fair debate. So I composed a large list of stuff that I could see has proof attached to it, and sent that in. They got mad. Instead of saying, “oh, that isn’t true because…” they said nothing’s of its true and called a mod. Was I rude to anyone in the server? No. Was I harassing anyone? No. So what was stopping them from simply proving my claims weren’t true. My message got deleted but luckily I had copied it so it’s in the images below. If any of these things aren’t true please reblog with proof so I know for the future.

[pleasantspark]

AyyLmao Critic Post

My instance of Orbiter is different from the ones people use, I see Orbiters as people who defend and spend money on the person they defend. Not to sleep with them, to be clear.

I like it when AyyLmao proves he's a VivziePop Orbiter and poster when he makes this video and other calling it a masterpiece.

Reminder, Zoophobia is the origin of the infamous Addison Incident it's said that Zoophobia is written horribly which I do not actually deny. Going off by the title it's one of those:

"VivziePop did NOTHING WRONG!" defense videos that serve nothing and remains the same as any other content. AyyLmao produces Sloptent, he's a Slop Content Farm with no hobby other then to defend and defame victims of VivziePop. He conveniently removes any context of the other end or flatout remove comments in criticism of the show.

He's not a reliable news source for Viv and is content in harassing minors rewriting storylines then being biased. His content is specfically leaning on the Slop end of YouTube and contains nothing more of "Drama Posts", "Did You Knows" and "Updates to [blank] drama"

Now addressing the "Criticism vs Harassment" screenshot in the thumbnail, there's no clear difference to VivziePop as she sees all Criticism as Harassment. Even the good faith ones. She's so deluded and relies heavily on borderline rabid fans yes men statements to get her going.

This thumbnail is insanely misleading.

Now the title.

Once again SLOPCONTENT.

"Zoophobia: VivziePop's Failed Masterpiece"

reason why ZooPhobia failed was not because of what I assume has to be "harassment" but because of Viv's lack of interest in the story after pitching Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss. Zoophobia was already in the stages of decay before being sidelined by Hazbin entirely to even consider putting any more real effort.

Viv has not mentioned Zoophobia in years, she's completely forgotten about it, and her Nozz Account as well as not addressing any of the Addison concerns.

Something tells me in the video he's going to be like "Reason why Viv stopped Zoophobia was because of Harassment and Criticism as well as people like [Dollcreep] destroying the reputation of Viv."

Tbh. AyyLmao's Bias towards Viv is uncanny and barely even adds to the drama other than to monotize off drama his input does not add.

AyyLmao is a VivziePop Orbiter as with DaniDraws and DJBlitz.

VivziePop's "Masterpiece" Zoophobia didn't fail because of Criticism and Harassment, it failed because she refused to improve, and that is a fate that will befall Hazbin and Helluva Boss if she doesn't tighten the fuck up.

In order for your stories to thrive and have your work be praised, you have to take criticism and improve, refusal to do so only shows you're willing to not change, and in a decade or so, Hazbin will be merely forgotten and seen as a distant memory. There's a reason why old fandoms of obscure good media is considered obscure. It's because people or the people behind it refused to get with the times, and Viv refuses to take the incitive to better improve her content.

It's all on her once Helluva and Hazbin's views tanks and the only memory of it is the stans that refuse to change and move on from a dead show. There's already Stans being converted into Fans being converted into Former Fans that are jumping ship.

Furthermore, if you can't make content regarding Hazbin Hotel news without being biased (As News sources are OFTEN bias to both parties.) then you aren't a news source to be trusted. AyyLmao is one of these people.

[angellic-critique]

Reminder that this is the level of drag 'representation' angel dust gives :/

This is bottom of the barrel feminization towards drag performing arts :/

And since helluva boss fans are only do passive as to read everything at surface level only here is the Spitting definition of drag queens/kings

At no point is it intrinsically all about just sexual performance or sexual drive, it can be a factor or a small portion but it is not just a large generalization as much as people are trying to make drag performing seem to be.

Drag is an art form. It is a statement. It is a person of beauty and the love and appreciation of fashion and expression!

Angel Dust is the complete opposite of sex workers or drag performers at all! If AD is supposed to resemble the theme of abuse in industry [something she already failed to portray with fizzerolli] and the toll that sex workers and addicts within the industry for that matter, we have no clue how he will act in Hazbin but the sneak peek of him in leather gives me no hope if the implication is that he will purely be centered around valentinos abuse. Considering someone on the team ship's and actively adores the ship that is Angel x Valentino

How can you claim to support sex workers while actively seeing them as purely fetishism gay yaoi bait THAT YOU ACTIVELY MERCHANDISE AS """SEXY""":/

There is nothing to angel dust besides the appeal of a feminine man being sexually abused.

[pastel-kaleesh]

Welcome to Trashbin Hotel we got horrible writing, repeated color palletes, a literal rapist that people simp for, whitewashed biblical figures, harmful stereotypes, racism, offensive caricatures of actual people, fetishized queer characters, fetish in general, a creator that's a rip-off JK Rowling, a fandom full of proshippers, transphobia and more.

Would you dare to step in?

[helluvacriticalrewrite]

[mccloudyyy]

If Vivziepop let other people design her characters than the show would atleast be a tiny bit better (the shows writing is a whole other thing to fix)

Like she's got an appealing art style but for the love of God ENOUGH WITH THE STRIPES

[moldy-lemons]

oooo the misogyny is strong here

[enixamyram]

I have tried really hard to ignore anti nonsense. I just wanna focus on the good and positive side of this fandom and just enjoy the series in general. But it's also hard bottling up thoughts when I'm used to ranting for the sake of getting my thoughts and feelings out and moving then on.

So I'm gonna put a couple reactions to Anti-Related Hazbin things under the read more just to get them out! Because my god, some of these are bullshit!

Chaggie - I've seen so much bullshit citicizm for this ship. People claiming they're boring or bland or badly written and I have yet to see a legit reason why other than that they don't have any typical relationship drama (which, for the record, I personally am so relieved about) or because they're not being overly affectionate every five minutes of screen time. And you know, this especially drives me crazy because they have some of the sweetest little gestures, whether it be holding hands, hugging, swinging each other round or even just the constant damn heart eyes they have when looking at each other in the background! They're so damn precious and if you can't see that, you don't know what a legit established relationship is supposed to be past the honeymoon phase.

Charlie - People once again have claimed she's badly written. I don't know why people seem to hate happy kind hearted females so much but I have seen this exact complaint about many characters who are similar to her. None of which are actually badly written. They're just not the new stereotype "bad asses" that seems to be the only acceptable way to write a female character lately. Which is ironic since a lot of the so called "bad ass" female characters I have seen are often so one dimensional. Yet we have Charlie, a kind hearted but also sometimes naive girl who is doing her best while also learning with the rest of her friends and ya'll are gonna try and claim she's not amazing? The more I rewatch the show, the more I wanna reschedule my favorite character list because there's not a second I don't adore having her on my screen.

Niffty - This one really makes me want to slam my head against the wall. I have seen so many people complain and claim she acts like a child. Bare in mind, I've just watched episode 3 - you know, the one where Niffty is fully ready to throw herself into the BDSM that Angel takes them to. The only thing close to evidence that I have seen for her acting like a child is the episode where she gets drunk except she's still not acting like a child there, she's acting like a drunk! When some people are drunk they're silly and dumb and very "child-like". Otherwise, the only reason I think people call her a child is because she's is literally small like one. Yet, if you actually look at anything past her basic physical appearance, she's a crazy murder machine and I don't know many children I can also give that title to.

Angel - This is so old and everyone else has said this all so much better than me but I just really want to repeat: Just because it's not YOUR representation doesn't mean it's BAD representation. Just because you dealt with your sexual assault in a certain way does not mean everyone deals with it that way and it sure as hell doesn't give you a right to dismiss others. I have seen so many people say they identify with Angel's character and his hypersexuality, so it is so annoyingly arrogant to see people trying to shut them down entirely because Angel's character isn't portraying their personal reactions. It's just so amazingly self-centered to be saying that if you can't personally relate to it exactly, then it shouldn't exist at all. Seriously, grow the fuck up.

Loser Baby/Poison - Again, this has been said so many times before by other people but I'm gonna add/repeat. Some people take these songs and videos so damn literally. I saw someone claim Angel was happy during his dance with Valentino in Poison which apparently made the whole character a contradiction? Completely ignoring the parts where he's clearly miserable or the part where he's clearly putting on a fake smile or even the part where he all out says he dissociates to get through. And then you have Loser Baby where people are outraged that Husk call Angel a loser and is apparently trying to compare their situations? I mean, he's obviously not saying they're situations are the same if you think about it for more than two seconds. Like, are you seriously this literal? If I said the message went over your head, would ya'll look up?

[tamaruaart]

Hazbin Hotel wishes it was Dante's inferno

[pleasantspark]

Also Viv once claims that kids don't go to hell yet Vaggie got into trouble because she hesitated to kill a kid sinner

And the fanbase tries to explain "it's a hellborn"

but they also forgot that Hellborns are exempt from killings. How can a hellborn be targeted? Make it make sense.

We should already not trust what VivziePop says.

[godzillagamer2012]

If you want more dark or gore (or something).

Go watch the Evil Dead and Friday the 13th and A Nightmare On Elm Street Franchise, go watch, it way better horror than hellaverse.

But if you want something different.

Go watch monster inc and toy story 1-3, TMNT original movie (1-2), deadpool, superman movies or other different disney, go to watch, it emotionally better and funny.

[malesshit]

Hazbin/Helluva antis:

Look how Valentino is r*ping Angel, look at how uncomfortable Angel looks. Surely this is a romantization of r*pe and Vivzie is problematic!

Also Hazbin/Helluva antis:

Why didn’t Vivzie make the sympathetic character a r*pist!? This is bad writting! I need Ozzie to SA Fizz or else it’s not accurate to demonology!