#and she DIED. BADLY???
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was anybody going to tell me or was i just supposed to catch up on tdp myself
#ITS ABOUT THE CHILDREN YOU CANT SAVE DRIVING YOU TO BECOME HORROR INCARNATE FOR THOSE IN THE PRESENT#ITS ABOUT YOUR COSMIC SINS BEING JUDGED BY AN ARBITRARY AND UNJUST MEMBER OF YOUR OWN PEOPLE#ITS ABOUT THE GRIEF#HEY. HEY CAN YOU HEAR ME IN HERE#i thought he was interesting bc they gave him a fake kid but now you tell me#he had a REAL ONE#and she DIED. BADLY???#and now he doesn’t care about the other children he creates?#or the lesser beings he interacts with???#tdp#ffxiv#meg speaks#[chews on the galvus firstborn] [chews on the startouch elves]#DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME. ITS ABOUT THE GRIEF OF THE PARENT.#ITS ABOUT THE ‘laws’ OF THE UNIVERSE#before u come after me w ‘emet selch had entirely different motivations-‘#this is specifically in relation to him as a deliberately abusive parental figure post-lucius#he is repeatedly shown interacting with a creating and using children after his mysterious firstborn whom he loved#(varis. vauthry. potentially zenos.)#and there is Very Much the feeling that he may have loved his firstborn…and he will never make that mistake again#so. anyway.#rraghararahararararraraghd#(<- sound of me using The Parallels as chewtoys)
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vague-posting about this here cuz i don't feel comfortable yapping about my su takes on twitter, but after everything that's happened the most interesting thing about the su fandom to me is that so many are 100% there for applying the "everyone can change and deserves a second chance" message to everyone, even the diamonds. except for one ☝️ she doesn't count. cuz she's dead.
#personal#very extremely delete later#ok cutting the vague post this is about a “whose the worst cartoon mom” twt post with pink diamond in the running#and a bunch of people pointing at her. the woman who died in childbirth and never got to meet her child. and she's literally next to#mother gothel. the baby kidnapper who kidnapped a baby#i'm always gonna be a pink diamond nuancepilled defender. she was a shitty entitled teen who grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth#then got self-radicalized and rebelled for both selfish AND selfless reasons#“this show is great because everyone makes mistakes and learns from them. except the pink one. she's bad and dead forever.”#anyways this is a crit towards the fandom not the show#“she had steven so she could selfishly escape her mistakes and put all her burdens on her child” or she wanted a child#“she abandoned her family” or she died during childbirth#“she started a war that got thousands of gems killed and mutilated” and if she hadn't nobody on earth would exist#the fact that some fans are more willing to jump to white diamond’s defense when talking about her reformation and redemption#white diamond—the architect and supreme ruler of a 10000+ year old fascist empire—has 10000% done worse more unforgivable things than pink#guys even blue diamond has shattered gems before. like not just kill them but permanently split their souls into pieces.#ruby called her a “SHATTERER.” she was INFAMOUS for murdering people. pink never shattered anyone#for fans of a show that explicitly says nobody's truly a villain you guys sure do want a villain really badly#anyways “we need more compelx female characters y'all couldn't even handle rose quartz” etc. etc. etc.
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Same As The Day I Lost You
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This came to me as I'm making dinner so I'll be quick.
What if we mix deaged Danny and twin/older sibling (either one works) Damian, AND he gets tossed to his sibling in a last minute escape.
Like what if he was fighting Vlad who was doing his whole "denounce your father and join me as my son Daniel!" Thing while in the Zone and knocks Danny into something that's floating in the Zone with the ability to deage or was hit by a new Fenton or Plasmius invention while fighting in town that accidentally deages him.
Danny, who in this was adopted, gets put back to the age of six. The same age he had been found by Jazz in a 'haunted' forest Jack and Maddie were visiting/investigating while also using that time as a family vacation. (They were shocked to see a little boy with a stab wound bleeding out and rushed him to the nearby town, almost completely forgetting about the glowing green tiny puddle they found nearby and bagged most of it as evidence when they heard Jazz's scream of terror over finding the hurt little boy)
The sudden revert into that traumatized age, along with the child response to a fight or flight scenario, and add Danny's deepest need/wish to be protected his child fogged mind wishes to go to the one person who always made him feel safe.
His twin/older brother.
Just as quick as it was with Danny being turned into a child, his ghost powers ripped open a portal and sent Danny to the person he wants to be with...
Only he didn't know that right at that moment his seventeen year old twin/older brother is currently fighting the League with his family's help (his mother was trying to convince him to return to the League and be it's heir) in Nanda Parbat (the very place Damian lost the last/only person he knew loved him without any strings attached.)
So imagine everyone's face when a portal opened up, some muttering its a new pit being formed before them or something, and crawling out of it is a very scared and confused six year old Danny.
#danny phantom dc#danny fenton#danny phantom#dp x dc#crossover#dc x dp crossover#No one will be ready for child Danny#Does he have his older memories? idk maybe#maybe his six year old mind from the sudden deage is at front rn or something#Damian almost feral/angry screams at his mother for 'daring to try to replace Danyal with a cheap clone'#only to see the look on her face and knows this wasn't planned#his little brother who he secretly watched as his mother tried to go behind grandfather's back to heal only for the pit to greedily keep#was brought back by the pits not looking a day over the age he lost him#What happened was Danny disobeyed an order from Ra's and was punished for it#he almost died for it and Talia wanted very badly to keep him because he looked so much like her beloved and she couldn't bare losing that#Only the pits kept Danyal instead of bringing him back#or rather under the guide of a certain entity he was brought to the forest the Fenton's were visiting#Damian scoops Danyal up when he see's the look in his mother's eyes shift from shock to calculating greed/love#he refuses to leave his brother in the hands of the League or his mother#he loves her despite everything but knows Danyal would never truly survive their mother's version of 'love' especially in the League#Also Damian may have...refused/forgotten to tell the others about Danyal#so cue them being horrifically confused#The pure sick feeling and deep seeded panic Bruce feels when he see's the mini version of himself but with hints of Talia hits hard#blue rambles
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The fact that all Gwen knows about her variants in other universes is that they're dead is so sad. Like imagine you want to know what happens to you in other dimensions and it turns out that wherever you look you mean nothing, you're so unimportant that there's no bigger role for you other than dying.
And I've seen you guys pointing this out, where she's looking at what looks like her own death and even if it's not this is not just a "love interest" Gwen, this is a superhero who is supposed to mean something, but she doesn't. She's only here to die. And so far this (our) Gwen doesn't have any reason to believe that she won't die very soon just like other Gwens.
I think that one of the main reasons why she's rejecting Miles is not just her trauma and all shit she's been through and the fear of dying like other Gwens when they're involved with Spider-Man, but also because if they start something and she dies this will hurt him too.
It's easy to say "canon events aren't true she shouldn't believe in that" but this isn't just a regular risk, this is her life we're talking about.
#my baby just wanted to stay alive#her death just casually appeared above her head and she's expected to continue the conversation normally#and it doesn't look like she died peacefully at all look at her#spider man across the spider verse#Spiderverse#across the spiderverse#gwen stacy#spider woman#spider gwen#ghost spider#to anyone who says that this is kravens last hunt he injured peter badly in that comic almost killed him#but that doesn't mean that she won't die either in hands of kraven or anybody else#or that this is just one canon event she has more but as far as she knows she'll die if she touches spider man or just die like that#but I'm not sure if it's even kravens last hunt pic she doesn't look well here either way#to me it looks like she's hurt here I didn't think about other possibilities until y'all said it could be but it's sus i think she's hurt
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diversity win! the woman who hates matt respects his gender
#daredevil comics#rosalind sharpe#karen page#i love the dynamic between rose and karen#evil lawyer taking a woman under her wing who is the girlfriend of her employee who wishes she died badly. and he has superpowers#daredevil comics NEED this kind of shit on the civilian side again
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house & amber parallels
#the heart#house md#4x15 house's head#4x16 wilson's heart#2x13 skin deep#ask to tag#'oh my god you're sleeping with me' that got way less funny real fast huh 😭#why were the writers like what if we make a character who's like house but a girl wouldn't that be funny. and then she dies badly#and nothing will ever be the same. and if it felt like divine punishment
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You're looking in the wrong place, Charles.
Happy (belated) Father's Day!
#me when i fail to keep the promise i made to my daughter lol lmao even#mine*#xmenedit#x-men#filmedit#gifset#erik lehnsherr#charles xavier#jean grey#nina gurzsky#xmenuniverse#usergif#marvel#cherik#marveledit#me when i promised my daughter something but then she kinda died (it was supposed to be me) but for some fucked up reason i survived#and now i have to live with only the memories of her and how i failed to keep the promise lol#under pressure started playing while i was doing this i've never wanted to kill myself more badly
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#agatha#agatha all along#can you tell that im so so soooooo bitter about the finale#like i get that some people loved it#good for you#i dont and i'm dying on this hill#yall have every right to be happy about it and talk about how happy you are about it!! but pls keep to your lane#i spent two hours going through the agatha all along tag and there were a handful of people going#the finale wasnt that bad look at the bright side you should be happy about how it ended#bitch. dont tell me how i should enjoy my media#why did she see the darkhold in the cradle and why that reaction?#'is the how nicky died' i dont understand how that prompted her to take such a huge risk#also??? why does rio wanna see agatha die so badly??#and when she did die where was rio? all that build up and fighting without any conclusion to it??#rio just disappeared no conclusion no confrontation not even a word before she kissed Rio and gave her what she wanted which is her death#the build up was really good but the pay off really fell flat and felt rush and agatha ended up feeling like shes sidelined in her own show#even when she had tons of screen time! it just fell flat like agatha deserves better she deserved change and growth and development#she deserved confrontation and facing her feelings not all this continued avoidance and shifting focus onto Billy#she's done too much to have this half assed conclusion to her arc that was built to set up someone elses story like the direction it went#was so gross like every other character had really well written and developed story arcs and conclusions and hers was just???? deflated???#im not even asking for a full on backstory about their relationship bc the show isnt about agatha x rio lmao#them having a happy ending doesnt make narrative sense. what im asking is simply tie up the threads they sewed into the narrative
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have we considered the possibility that kipperlily stole cassandra’s fragments from kristen…
#considering that she stole kristen and buddys gems. and how she reacted to finding out cassandra died. and how badly she wants the bad kids#to fail. taking away what is left of their clerics god feels like something she would do.#maybe im forgetting something and it was mentioned but im rewatching rn to see but had the thought and wanted to saaaaaay it#fhjy#fhjy spoilers#fantasy high#dimension 20#snow.txt
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I mean this in the kindest way I can say it; if Klaus dies for real and they try to pull the "It's ok, he's with Dave now." I'm gonna be so pissed.
I've seen it suggested and like...look Klave is cute af, but ffs let Klaus live and move forward and find someone new. Dave was and will always be the first person who showed Klaus that he is worthy of being loved, but he shouldn't be the last.
Klaus deserves to live a life and have a future filled with possibility.
If they're determined to stick with Klave, the only way I'll accept it is if Dave is somehow resurrected. I'm cool with that. I'm not cool with Klaus 'dying for real' and it being justified because of a ship.
#klaus hargreeves#tua#the umbrella academy#the umbrella academy s4#tua season four#tua s4#the umbrella academy season 4#look i have 1 ship where I'm like#yeah that person who died was it for the living partner#and that's because the living partner never wanted a relationship in the first place#she just happened to fall in love against her better judgment and it ended BADLY#i do not want klaus dying to be with dave its been years?!?!! let him move on
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What if charlie and alastor grew up togethr ?
For that to happen, Lucifer would have had to know about Alastor from the beginning*. I don't think he would have taken Alastor away from Nicaise, and she wouldn't have wanted to live in Hell, even if it did mean living in luxury. The guilt and the feelings of betrayal are still there - it certainly doesn't help his crumbling relationship with Lilith - but Lucifer wants to keep an eye on his friend and their child. So he peeks in on them on Earth, occasionally pops in to grant a couple small miracles or gifts. Never staying long just in case Heaven catches on.
Then Nicaise is murdered by her employer. And there is no way in hell that Lucifer is allowing that fucking piece of shit to keep her child! Lucifer books it over as soon as he can and finds Alastor sleeping in a shed and, oh, he is not happy. He doesn't kill Nicaise's murderer. It's enough to flash his wings, horns out, spitting flames as he informs the man that Hell is real and he's bound to it before disappearing with Alastor**.
So now, in just the span of a few days, Alastor: has witnessed his mother's violent murder, has been effectively kidnapped by her murderer, was forced to sleep in a shed that smells like dogs, found out that angels and demons are real and that his father is one, has been whisked away to live in another world that transforms him into a monster as soon as he enters it, and is now expected to get used to living with his mysterious father as well as a new step-mother and half-sister. Needless to say, it's a lot.
So naturally, he's a bit shaken when he first arrives in the Morningstar household. He doesn't speak and spends most of his time shut up in his new room which is way bigger than his old house was. Lucifer's awkwardly trying to balance giving him the space he needs and make him feel welcome. Lilith isn't terribly thrilled with the situation, but... Well, she seems to have a lot of compassion for her people. I don't think she would really turn out a traumatized child, but she's definitely going through some complicated emotions of her own.
Charlie has none of the reservations the grown ups have. In fact, she's suuuuuuuuuuper excited to meet her new little brother! Even if he doesn't look that much littler than her***. So she slips into his room, tries to drag him out of bed, pesters him, and generally just acts like an excitable, friendly child. As much as Lucifer and Lilith try to get her to give Alastor space and time to adjust, she keeps coming back. Her little brother looks so sad and she doesn't want him to be sad! She wants to help him feel happy!
She remains persistent, telling Alastor all about her home and family and insisting that he'll like it soon because her mom and dad are really nice and she loves him already and he'll love it there in Hell and...
She stops as she sees the tears start to roll down Alastor's face. Charlie begins to panic, thinking she's said something mean by accident, but then Alastor sobs out that he misses his maman and just wants to go home! Suddenly Charlie feels really bad. She doesn't know how to make things better. So she just stays. Sits next to him. Doesn't leave him alone. Sheds a few tears of her own.
Once Alastor's cried it out and tired himself out a bit, Charlie asks him what his mom was like. They spend all night talking about her. When Lucifer goes to check in on Alastor later, he finds both kids passed out on the floor in a pile of blankets.
It's still rough going from there on out, but Charlie plays a large part in helping Alastor heal after everything. Some things still stay the same. Lucifer and Lilith's marriage still struggles, she disappears, Lucifer pulls away from now both of his children in his depression. And Alastor still has a lot of anger. He doesn't really agree with Charlie's goal of redeeming sinners because he fully believes that some people just aren't worth redeeming.
Still, he goes with her whenever she searches for injured sinners after the exterminations. He and Vaggie actually get along a bit better here. They still snipe at each other quite a bit, but there's an almost friendly undercurrent to it. And although he doesn't really believe in the goal of redeeming sinners, he does go along with the Happy Hotel project just to help Charlie out. Doesn't stop him from mocking the idea every step of the way.
This version of Alastor hasn't really developed the Radio Demon persona. He doesn't exactly need to, given he's the Prince of Hell. But he's still Alastor and still cultivates a terrifying reputation for himself. Charlie's grown up with this Alastor though and knows the man behind the curtain. She's not always happy with how quick he is to suggest violence as a solution, but she also knows that when he sees a weaker demon being preyed upon by stronger ones, he'll step in.
He's also protective of Charlie, and usually takes it upon himself to step in and do things that he sees as necessary but he knows she wouldn't like. For example, after finding out how Valentino treated her when she went to the studio, Alastor pays his own visit in private and makes sure Valentino knows if he tries to pull any shit like that again, Alastor will pick apart his soul piece by wretched piece and scatter it across all the rings of hell. Charlie knows he did something when the next time she sees Valentino, the pimp screams bloody murder and throws himself out the nearest window.
(*Just imagine Lucifer, wings out, attempting to drunkenly climb out of Nicaise's window, only to get stuck, give up, and slump over on the floor.)
(**The old bastard spends the rest of his life donating his wealth to build orphanages and hospitals, helping the poor, and basically trying to buy his way into Heaven. It doesn't work and he's slaughtered during his first extermination in hell.)
(***Charlie at this point should be roughly a century old, but to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what that means for a half-angel half-demon like her. Did she age at a typical human rate until she reached young adulthood and then just stopped? Or did she just age very very slowly? I'm going with the second for the sake of this AU. I also have this theory that Lilith never actually died, and was transformed into a unique sort of demon simply by entering primordial Hell. And something similar happens to young Alastor when Lucifer brings him home.)
#ask#anonymous#Hazbin Hotel#the Devil's Bastard AU#Raised Together AU#spinoff where Alastor and Charlie grow up together#Alastor#Charlie Morningstar#Lucifer Morningstar#Lilith Morningstar#other things I wasn't sure where to fit in up there:#Husk remains an Overlord in this AU. Alastor knows of him but they're not friends#Alastor's still friends with Rosie Mimzy and Niffty. He met Mimzy after she died and has a similar relationship to canon#while he's not as vehemently anti-modern technology Alastor still feels more comfortable with more vintage tech#especially things that remind him of his life on Earth#Vox still develops a fixation on him#instead of trying to fight Adam alone Charlie and Alastor fought him together#they still got badly injured but held him off long enough for Lucifer to arrive
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making an emily-arc gifset and screaming internally. why the fuck did they do that to scully
#also kind of why the fuck did they do that to mulder. like obviously it is WAY worse for scully but imagine:#your best friend slash love of your life calls you. she's just found out that a. she can't have kids#(which you have known for several months but didn't tell her because she was DYING OF TERMINAL BRAIN CANCER)#and b. when she was kidnapped and medically raped by the government a child resulted from this and she's only now found her#and you fly out to them and the little girl is darling and precocious and terrified and your partner ADORES her#and seeing them together hits you over the head with how badly you want this for her. how badly you want this for YOU#how any children you were ever going to have would have always been hers#and you make the girl laugh and you threaten the men who did this to her. you want everything to help her. and she dies anyway#your pseudo-mother-in-law calls from the hospital. your partner's brother just had a baby#you watch your partner fall apart and you grieve for her loss but also for yours. that was your daughter too. or she would have been#arwen.text#the x files
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Had an interesting dream about the rwr trio.
Percy had been out on patrol, and she was attacked. During the fight she was turned into a child with an epithet. Bc nobody managed to see the attacker’s face or hear their voice besides her, and bc she’s 6 and has No Memory of what happened, nobody knows who the culprit was or how to find them. And so, without the attacker, they don’t know how to get Percy back to normal.
So someone has to watch over her until they manage to find the culprit, and it ends up being Zora and Ramsey. They all seem to be on okay terms, but their relationship is a bit awkward and uncomfortable, they’re not friends really. Allies would be the best term to use.
They become a lot closer while watching out for Percy, and resolve some Personal Issues that happened in the rwr arc. They’re also helping out to find the culprit.
While this is going on, they keep running into this man. I think he was either helping with the case or he was a suspect? Either way, they had to talk to this guy. And something about him made Zora feel UNBELIEVABLY uncomfortable. She felt small and anxious around him, sick to her stomach. She’s doing her best to avoid this guy and Not snap at him, bc they need him for the case.
It turns out the guy was the culprit, and he tries to ambush them. He’s fighting Zora, and he’s WINNING. His power seems time related, and a perfect counter to Zora’s epithet. Any progress Zora makes he seems to be able to reset, and she’s having lapses in memory. But more importantly, he’s getting to her somehow, she feels helpless, angry, emotional.
Then, his epithet is revealed. NOSTALGIA, described as “can bring a person back to a time or place”. He was able to PHYSICALLY bring Percy back to when she was a child. Zora felt terrible around him, because his epithet had a passive effect, bringing her back to her emotional state when her parents had died.
#he didn’t know about her parents. probably??#i think he just noticed she was doing BADLY and he took advantage of it#epithet erased#zora salazar#percival king#ramsey murdoch#Percy and Ramsey didn’t find out about her background or anything btw#but I think Percy got back to normal and Zora became a kid? specifically the time after her parents died and she was living in the woods#so. they probably would’ve found out that way#redwood run#redwood run trio#zora salazar epithet erased#ramsey murdoch epithet erased#percival king epithet erased
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A Sibling Sacrifice
The JL were having a normal, for them at least, meeting when suddenly a portal rips opens and spits out a young teen with snow white hair and glowing green eyes and he's carrying a bundle as he's stumbles out and lands on his knees in the meeting room.
The two main odd things about this kid was floating above the kid's head was a crown made of stars, ice, and the colors shifting like a aurora borealis and the bundle in his arms was strangely made of stars somehow, almost like a blanket of galaxies plucked out of the cosmos.
Before anyone of them could say or do anything, the kid turns around and screams towards the portal as he scrambles for it.
"JAZZ NO DON'T DO THIS! I CAN STILL FIGHT THEM! NONONONO!" but before he could reach the portal it snaps close.
The kid lands again onto the floor when he doesn't reach it in time, pleading for the damn thing to open again, and the bundle in his arms begins to cry from the jolting and noise.
The baby crying was the only thing that stopped the kid from pleading and instead focused his attention on the bundle in his arms.
"I'm sorry, I'm so damn sorry Ellie. I should had gotten us out of there sooner, I should had saved you bef- I'm sorry. I'm sorry for everything..."
Those were the rushed, raw words the kid said down to the bundle. The kid curled inwards a bit, to both shield the baby, who was calming down somewhat into tiny cry hiccups, and for himself.
Those with advanced hearing could tell the kid was still whispering apologizes under his breath as he held the baby close.
"I'm sorry everyone, I'm so sorry. I tried, I tried so hard to save everyone but in the end... I'm sorry- everyone's gone... I'm sorry."
-x-x-
[Pssst, read the tags, they clear everything up]
#danny phantom#danny fenton#dp x dc#crossover#blue rambles#writing ideas#random idea#danny phantom dc#dpxdc#The GIW did something baddddd#basically it ended the DP world#and badly damaged the Infinite Realms in the process#Danny's family and friends and those in Amity Park all tried to stop the GIW#But in the end none were spared#Sam was accidentally killed when she spotted some GIW trying to unlawfully arrest and take a old woman and her ghost husband late one night#Tucker took out the GIW main base during a raid. He made sure to destroy their servers even as some agents were busting down his safe house#He also made sure none of them or himself left that house that night too.#The Fenton parents died during a raid to free their kids and Vlad. Jack died shielding them and Maddie stayed back to give them time#Vlad only held on enough to make sure Danielle and Danny could escape the GIW base alive. Before going out in a bang.#They escaped into the Infinite Realms but the damage done to Dani was too much and she started to destabilize#it was only thanks to both Frostbite and CW that they managed to figure a way to stabilize her. They had to deage her.#and feed her pure ectoplasim as a baby.#The upcoming months get worse with Danny still healing from the torture they put in him and Dani now a baby#Jazz decides they need to attack their main base and destroy their blueprints of ghost portals on their servers.#They needed to cut the GIW access to the Realms. Sadly only Jazz and a small handful of Amity Parkers and ghosts come back.#They thought it was finally over but they get word one of Vlad's portal is still open and the GIW are planning a all scale attack#By destroying the Realms in a single swoop#CW can't let that happen and calls in Jazz and Frostbite for a meeting and kept Danny in the dark. He can only see one good future#Because Danny is Ghost Prince he is connected to the Realms. if he lives and survives so does the Realms no matter how badly it gets hurt#Jazz makes the hard call of getting both Danny and baby Ellie out of the Realms into a new world. No matter what happens to her in the end.
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I think Slay the Princess is so popular partially because the *gets stabbed* "I'm in love" reaction is both intentional on the part of the developers and then they completely follow through on it.
#slay the princess#me @ the Razor: I love you so much and you're so hot and funny and– *gets stabbed again*#and then! the little Voices agree that they're kinda into it too! fantastic game! A+! kill me again beautiful woman!#they managed to make even the Princess's most terrifying grotesque forms the most beautiful fictional women I've ever seen#while never sacrificing the horror elements. if anything the horror and gore and monstrosity makes her even more attractive#like they get it. the inherent eroticism of being trapped in a time loop made with the sole purpose of getting one of us to kill the other#and then killing and hurting and dying and struggling together over and over and over until finally breaking free#she hurts us and we are but a receptacle for the pain. she hunts us like prey and swallows us whole. we beat each other to#death for the thrill of it and keep on going long past when we should've died. she torments us until our heart stops from terror.#we see her as a dominating goddess and she becomes one. she knows what our organs look like. her bloated corpse once drowned us.#we lie at the foot of the stairs to freedom with broken backs because we betrayed her so badly she could only betray us in turn#and don't even get me started on the amazing intimacy/violation of the Spectre/Wraith possession stuff#and we (both the player and the Long Quiet) love her for it and through it
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i don't know if anyone else ever has any thoughts about sam and kelly but i do think it's interesting how late seasons spn gave us two characters who'd both had their lives ruined by lucifer and gave them next to no interactions besides a few stilted conversations where they never talked about anything of sustenance, but a point was still made of sam being the one to close her eyes after she died.
#it's also different than the way he interacts with rowena?#but that's for another post#i just do think there is something about sam being the one to lay kelly to rest like that#even if it wasn't an intentional writing decision#like. lucifer has hurt the both of them so badly. and they never talk about it. but sam still closes her eyes after she dies#while giving birth to lucifers son no less#is this anything i have no idea#spn#sam winchester#kelly kline#supernatural#lucifer spn#s12 thoughts
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