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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang yanli#jiang cheng#'Good Morning World' because to wwx the jiang household is what grounds him. It is his burrow and blanket.#The familiar soup and banter is his home. The familiar arguments and tension are also his home.#Notice how quickly he throws LWJ to the side once he has JC back in reach! 'He was so boring; I wish *you* were there!'#WWX is very quick to constantly remind himself that he fits within a very specific power structure and role.#He pushes boundaries but almost always only the boundaries that he knows he can push against.#Sitting here now and realizing that if WWX did take life more seriously and act more diligent he would totally usurp JC.#Because the contrast with Them (tm) is wwx is the one that gets in trouble and JC is the one that sticks to the rules.#That responsible appearance especially in contrast is the thin line that holds JC's self-esteem together.#And lets be fully honest. From JC's perspective the last week was also extremely intense and stressful.#It truly was a feat to travel so far so fast despite also being exhausted. Never knowing if it is all in vain.#JC said with his actions 'I would move mountains for you and dig through stone with my bare hands if it meant reaching you.'#and WWX said '[read]'#It's about wwx chronically asking 'why would someone care for me? I'm always tool to be used' than accepting that people love him.
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sometimes, ngl, i do find myself wondering what it was that made lan wangji fall so desperately in love with wei wuxian - they really are so different and wei wuxian does represent in many ways the antithesis of everything lan wangji lives his life embodying, even if the audience knows how great and amazing wei wuxian is (we also read mainly from his pov and he is basically handcrafted to appeal to modern fandoms), we the audience are not lan wangji, lan wangji isn’t privy to all the same information we are. and then a scene will come along, where wei wuxian will be so earnestly and painfully good, to someone else or to lan wangji himself, and it all makes sense again. like, of course lan wangji was going to fall in love with him how could he not fall in love with him??? really he’s completely powerless when it comes to wei wuxian how could he not be
#i just read the scene where wwx is like i should go carry him so his injury doesn’t get worse#and jc is like why would you do that he hates you and it’s none of our business#and wwx is like it is my business and someone ought to worry about him and like#lwj didn’t hear him but like if he had#dude id fall in love with someone if they said that about me#tho maybe my standards are low#wangxian#lan wangji#wei wuxian#mdzs
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As someone who has far too much time on their hands I have waded through Ao3 and found some canon-complacent fics that do not assume that Jiang Cheng is a good brother, are not influenced by the untamed, and are hopefully to your tastes!
Our Feelings Remain Unchanged by Karmiya
When Wei Wuxian is resurrected with his original face, any plans to hide in plain sight as 'Mo Xuanyu' are ruined before they can ever begin. He soon runs into old faces, and finds that despite what he feared in his last days, Lan Wangji's feelings for him never changed; whatever they were in the first place.
I really like this author in general! All their fics are good but this is my favorite of them. It is not remaining in line with cannon because oh boy Wei Wuxian having the same face changes things starting with the fact that Sizhui recognizes him...
The Shade of Old Trees by Kryal
“We rest in the shade of trees our ancestors planted.” They called the man in the ice Yiling Laozu, after a folk hero associated with the town in the foothills of the mountains where he was found. No one expected him to be alive!
I believe you will appreciate this authors long footnotes. Also the historical details and world building is fascinating. They clearly put a lot of research into this.
this world (what I make of it) by glitteringmoonlight
The war had consequences. Once, a fully realized Avatar referred to one who had mastered all the elements and could go into the Avatar State. Now, that has changed. No one could master fire when there was no one to teach it, and people feared the abilities of a firebender too much to allow anyone, even the Avatar, to learn too much of it. Now, an Avatar was simply said to be fully realized when their instructors decided they had learnt enough. In which Lan Sizhui is the Avatar, but he cannot firebend, nor can he waterbend very well. That changes when his travels take him to Yiling.
The best avatar fusion fic I've read. No mentions of jc so far and Wei Wuxian currently remains a mysterious figure who is for sure not a bloodbender and definitely isn't in hiding.
A look back at the past (it's never like they lie) by Imnobody122
Jin Ling had always wanted to know his parents so when he heard rumors about a ghost forcing people to relive their earliest childhood memories he jumped at the chance. Things did not go according to plan. Instead he's stuck watching the childhood memories of Lan Sizhui and Jin Ling is forced to confront the truth the Sects lied about. The Yiling Laozu should not be good with children!
It's harder to get more canon complainant than when you are literally quoting the text. Don't worry the author makes no excuses for Jiang Cheng and this fic tears apart the rumors surrounding Wei Wuxian.
Return to Sender by Theasaurus_with_no_words
On yet another gray and eerie morning in the Burial Mounds, Wei Wuxian wakes up with his golden core back. It turns out he lost something else in the process. (Aka: Wei Wuxian's feelings towards certain people get erased. It changes things. Is it a curse, or a blessing in disguise? And can Wei Wuxian trust himself, his choices and his priorities, after losing a defining part of who he is?)
Wei Wuxian regains his golden core and loses his loyalty due to Jiang Cheng's ingratitude. This is not a bad trade.
I hope you like them and it is kind of depressing that this list only has five entries but oh well.
Some more mdzs fic recs if anyone is interested!
#mdzs asks#colorsunlikeanythingseen#I’ve read half of these#the others must be newer or unfinished (i usually don’t read unfinished things)#so thanks for the list!#there are way more authors and fics with canon dynamics than this#admiranda and rynne are two and still currently posting#like i said the problem is not so much that i can’t find good fics if i look#but the fact that i have to search so hard to find a fic that#doesn’t treat wwx’s abuse as valid and wwx as a terrible person#makes me uninterested in reading *any* mdzs fic#whether good or bad#i just kinda don’t care anymore
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in MDZS the novel, the innkeeper in Yunping mentions that people are too scared to go petition Yunmeng Jiang for help because someone once walked in on Sect Leader Jiang whipping a guy in the main hall, supposedly because the guy was a demonic cultivator.
#mdzs#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#jc apologism#anyways as you can hopefully tell by now this is a jc stan blog.#so as a stan i will do my rightful stan duty and insist that my fave did nothing wrong#so. onwards. the “jiang cheng tortures demonic cultivators” claim is interesting on several levels#because we don't see it happen onscreen. and because thematically mdzs is a book about the unreliability of rumors#especially when said rumors conform to your preexisting understanding of someone. or what you want to hear about someone#it would have been so easy for mxtx to include a scene where jc tortures a demonic cultivator onscreen. i would love to read it too#but that doesnt happen. when jc actually corners wwx he just shoves a dog in his face and bullies him emotionally#smh jc get your shit together!! what is this lame ass display?? not living up to your reputation here loser#anyways. tbh i consider two things separately: 1. mxtx's intentions. and 2. what the text itself implies#for 1. i am legitimately unsure of what to think. mxtx relies on rumors/empathy/etc to give us info about side characters#in part because she's constrained herself to writing from wwx's perspective and has no other easy way of getting the info to us#does she intend for us to question the rumors? or are we supposed to take them as fact because of the narration limits described?#2. what the text itself implies is not necessarily the same as what mxtx intends.#for me mdzs is in part a story about the unreliability of rumors and reputation etc etc. other meta writers than i have explained it better#so for the work to go “all the rumors about wwx were exaggerated/manipulated/not 100% correct.”#“but the rumors about everyone else are 100% true!!!!!”#is peak stupidity. and shit-tier writing#and i actually like mdzs so i would like to believe the writer is more intelligent than that#thus. i conclude in part due to this emotional necessity of mine that there must have been something more going on#anyways. i have similar opinions about the “did jiggy kill rusong” business but that's a post for later#ill probably put my jc torture opinions in their own post some day#yanyan polls
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I'm willing to at least hear out most of the "xyz plot point is heavily tied to abc cultural context" brands of posts but the "wwx isn't meant to be read as morally gray" and "the western fandom made up Sizhui being wangxian's son" brands of post make me feel like my cultural ignorance is being used to gaslight me
#mdzs#vent post#the filial piety stuff in relation to jgy is incredibly interesting and has influenced my opinion on him#being told about the whole mo dao vs gui dao thing was very helpful since that is completely lost in the english translation#whether or not wwx's self sacrificing tendencies are supposed to be a good thing is a conversation i find interesting#even though i haven't come to my own conclusion on it yet#but wwx not being morally gray??? bro was a major player in a war- no ones coming out of that spotless#i also just straight up don't trust y'all about what mxtx said on him being morally ideal#y'all take her words out of context or just straight up lie about what she said so often that#I can't take anything y'all “repeat” from her at face value. i need links to the sources before I'll believe anything#on Sizhui being wangxian's son:#thats so embedded in the text the only way I'd believe it wasn't the intended reading is if 7 seas straight up rewrote section of the books#because its more than just a few throw away lines and wwx calling him his little one#its sizhui being formally adopted into the lans (proven by the cloud pattern headband)#its the extra where they take him on a nighthunt/investigation without any of the other disciples#its the paying extra attention to his hw while doing the grading#its in the miscellaneous anecdotes Sizhui remembers from wwx even after he lost his memories from early childhood#its the baby stories and sizhui chewing on wwx's flute#its Sizhui's unconditional faith in the two of them#its in Sizhui's choosing the same instrument as lwj#that is their kid!!! not through modern western adoption but thats still their kid!!!#sizhui developing a close relationship with his uncle doesn't change that#Wen Ning is the cool untaking the lan babies on field trips. wangxian are the ones actually raising him#also mxtx has been pretty open about being influenced by things other than chinese classics#so using “well traditional Chinese story telling uses this convention” will never be automatically be the correct™️ take on her work#not to say her stories are completely devoid of traditional structures its just she mixes in other styles too
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u evr see a post n go "man I could rip this apart in seconds"
#< not directed at st surprisingly#altho I have had my fair share of moments there too#anyways<3 said w no love btw<3#okay ykw it was abt mdzs idc#abt wwx specifically#n lets just say I wrinkled my nose several times while reading said post#like woah sm of u guys rlly Dont understand nuanced issues huh
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not me re-reading the qiongqi path ambush and feeling a pang in my heart when jin zixun said that quote above, because it immediately reminded me of...
#it is genuinely interesting to analyze just how wwx internalizes the things said to him#like i was already obsessed with a bleeding and sick wwx worridly wiping lwjs clothes because ''he got him dirty again''#cause my god. my godddd this is SO not just about the clothes#BUT I HAD... I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT HOW OFTEN PPL STRAIGHT UP SAID TO HIS FACE#that anyone who associates with him will always be marred by a stain#and wwx really really really doesn't want lwj to be stained#anyways if u like this typo of angst. read yuwu LMAO#modao#lace speaks
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seeing a post that has interesting canon analysis and wanting to reblog it until you get to the last paragraph and just
#fandom shenanigans#tumblrisms#actual about me#wank for ts#opinions for ts#kassie hush#mine: text#i am always here to talk about how MXTX Be Gendering Again in her novels#bc truly there is SO MUCH to talk about re: how she plays with gender & this usually applies to Wangxian Bingqiu & Hualian bc Main Ships#but it also happens with the supporting characters & relationships and i love love LOVE analysis of this shit#please do talk to me about how the relationship coding w/ jiang cheng & wei wuxian is more romantic than brotherly & jc gets the fem tropes#but that being said: it’s one thing to say that JIANG CHENG believes wei wuxian’s ‘blah blah blah duty & debt to the jiang clan’ nonsense#from guanyin temple…………but i deeply question the media literacy of any READERS who actually believe that story for themselves lmao#i also seriously question their read on wwx as a character when he spends the entire novel being an unreliable narrator abt his own feelings#but like okay cool we have fundamentally irreconcilable reads on both wwx & chengxian; you do you *thumbs up*
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I love hensheng but telling people about its name must have been so awkward. Imagine if someone said "that's a cool sword. What is it called?" and JGY responded with "hating life". I mean, what would you even say to that?
#He was so emo for this#Xy too#Wwx at least had an excuse because suibian was an accident and not that concerning for strangers#I mean a sword should have a concerning name but it's not supposed to make you feel sorry for the owner right?#I desperately want to read the scene of JGY telling LXC and NMJ about what he's naming his sword#LXC is concerned about his mental health and NMJ thinks he's seeking pity#Also.#Immediately after winning the war and getting legitimized I don't think JGY would come up with that name#It's possible that he got it while he was a spy#But imagine if he named it “loving life” at first because hell yeah he just fulfilled his mother's dream#Or at least got close to doing to#But then JGS happened and suddently the name didn't feel suitable#So he renamed it#Or what if there was a ceremony where he was supposed to get his courtesy name and a sword#And was under the impression that he was going to be jin ziyao#He had a fancy poetic name for his sword but once he heard his new name he got overwhelmed by resentment#And said hensheng without considering what other people would think#Because I can't imagine JGS being thrilled about people thinking he was such a bad father that his bastard hated being recognized by him#And let's be honest JGY isn't very good at making snap decisions
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like I have plenty of critiques abt jc's behavior (I went back into my archives and I was WAY more understanding in 2021 lol but the fans pissed me right off) but I don't think he would do that, or then leave and then LIE TO JYL about it...he did put himself in between wwx and his mother to try to protect him, he did sacrifice himself for wwx later, he did sit down with jyl and promise to get wwx back while CRYING, he did search for him for months. as destructive as his anger is he's never been that out of control, and wwx at this time still has a very powerful gc
he has anger issues and he does take them out on wwx and he does hurt him when he's upset but this is just rly extreme for him, and its in order to set up a situation where wwx stays with the lans starting really early on, and I don't mind it enough to stop reading bc I also have my biases and my silly self-indulgences, and jc isnt even rly part of the story in most chapters and they come to an understanding, but I know it's really not in-character or fair to him. the author tries to make it even by saying jc really thought he was dead when he left but leaving a loved one's dead body just lying there in a field is a hideous thing to do, especially in that setting, so it doesn't really make him sound any better 😭
#there was a time when I was just as exasperated with diehard unreasonable jc haters#there's less of them and I don't get as annoyed but like....per-defection there's a lot of nuance there in his behavior#less in the novel ig#I can't even tell which canon this fic is following#but it's not rly accurate. that being said I will continue to read bc I like when wwx gets outta there early and recognizes shit was perhap#fucked.#MAN lp massacre was so fucked up in general. goddamn#ficblogging
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I had a conversation with a friend. And based on that conversation I would just like to say
✨WEI WUXIAN DID NOTHING WRONG. EVER✨
#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#wei wuxian#wwx#wei ying#some ppls opinions are broke#i know they read the book#and they called wwx 'oblivious' to lwj's feelings#like...best friendo#lwj did not handle the yunping situation with grace#you don't get to give your non-communitave fave an out here#he DIDN“T LISTEN#also#he never spoke to wwx about his feelings#or tried to figure out what wwx felt#this is the same person that said wwx#should have gone to the sects with the wens#as proof the jins were liars#he DID THAT#when he confronted jin zixun#they make me wanna bang my head on my desk
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Since teaching really does seem to be Lan Qiren’s passion I like to think about a modern Lan Qiren who is really good about pursuing possible diagnoses and treatment of learning/developmental disabilities of children entrusted to his care.
#i also like to headcanon him as dyslexic <3#but like#Lan Qiren noticing his younger nephew is several months past when he should have started speaking and hasn’t said a word yet: Hmmm.#WAIT OMG…#LQR initially NOT knowing much about autism but reading everything he can on it bc he knows just enough to know that baby Wangji missing#developmental milestones is a sign that he might be autistic#and one very deep rabbit hole later LQR is up at like 4 am taking an online Am I Autistic quiz for himself#ANYWAY all of this is to say.#something like the cloud recesses summer school still happens in this modern setting#and when WWX gets returned to Jiang Fengmian lqr makes about five seconds of small talk before being like#Has. this child. ever been assessed for adhd. because.#I’m not a psychiatrist but oh my GOD he has it.
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“Unpopular opinion, but—” proceeds to state a fandom opinion so popular people make viral posts about it every week.
#the mdzs fandom is so unsufferable#especially with how it seems like now that folks are losing the#‘everyone is morally gray!’ argument#from just the book canon#they’re now tryna argue that ‘mxtx said so!’#knowing full goddamn well she ain’t said no such thing#somehow y’all read interviews enough to know that she said wen chao and jin zixun are flat antagonists#but not enough to see where she said that wangxian are the moral ideals we are meant to strive towards#‘everyone is equally bad!’ says someone who thinks that#wwx stating he could easily kill a character if he wants but he does not want to#is equal to characters actually verifiably murdering people#out of a sense of superiority and misplaced aggression#go to hell
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Oh god i made a doomed by narrative post on doomed by narrative's fan.website and it's sweeping
#[borealis.txt]#anyway i really enjoy reading the tags#mentally im on my bed giggling and kicking up my feets#so far three wwx and jc tag and so shout out to that one tag that said cant wait for mdzs fans to find this post#i really love tragic siblings dynamic
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I don't want to sound like an ungrateful bitch (which I'm sure I am) but can people please just add an Implied/Referenced switching tag!? Even if it's just a sentence, a word, anything at all that implies they switch during sex!! Please
#day ruined#it had the top lwj/bottom wwx tag YET NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SWITCHING#cell rambles#I'm done with this#i hate that this silly little thing is what is making me not want to read fic anymore
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4, 10, 26 for art asks!
4. Fav character/subject that's a bitch to draw
You wouldn't be able to tell since I draw them so much as of late but arval........their honeycomb. plate. tabard . Thing. I vacillate wildly between being obsessed with it and loathing it depending on if I'm drawing it or not. Also what is going on on the back of their head? Their hair is so cubey I don't understand... And if it's epi then you've got the wing things which took me ages to figure out how they're shaped for some reason
Their design looks chefs kiss MWAH in game or in finished pieces but oh my goodness please help my doodling, cutting-corners hand
10. Favorite piece of clothing to draw
I'm a huge fan of crinkly clothes, cloth that comes to oddly sharp angles. Like where big poofy sleeves that are cuffed come to an end. Or where pants crinkle, at the knees and ankles. These bad boys
26. What's a piece that got a wildly different interpretation from what you intended
Hmm that's a difficult question because the stuff I draw is 90% of the time so Very straightforward funny fan art...
Oh but one time someone reblogged a MDZS post of mine and said in the tags that they didn't go there but thought it was funny, and the post is. This one. And you need SO MUCH context to get what the joke is like wow that is an entirely different joke.
#tia posts#tysm for the ask :D#...should i try to explain the joke even though its major spoilers and guaranteed to make it less funny#im gonna try. feel free to not read any of this#so that sword can only be drawn by the late enemy of the state wei wuxian (wwx). and ppl have been keeping an eye out for#him resurrecting himself‚ possessing ppl‚ etc. so when mo xuanyu draws the sword everyone goes 'alright wwx we know its you. die again'#and the thing is. theyre RIGHT. that *is* wwx and the sword *can* only be drawn by wwx.#its just that the 2nd guy to draw the sword‚ jiang cheng (jc)‚ is wwx's little brother that he loves SO much#and a long time ago jc lost his magic and was devastated so wwx gave his own magic to jc and told No One About It#not even jc (he said 'look ive found a way to get your magic back!! wdym youre worried im not using my magic anymore? dont worry abt it')#so the sword recognizes jc as wwx. and like. there are some incredibly smart ppl in the room who've figured out that that guy is wwx#AGES go. they *know* thats wwx. and they *know* the sword cant be drawn. so what is going ON#is jc possessed? are there two wwxs? wtf?? the smartest ppl doing their own grand schemes and theyre just dumbfounded. what do you do.#it also ruins both the 'thats wwx!' reveal AND the 'jcs magic was never recovered‚ hes just been going on his brothers sacrifice'#so thats the comic. ig its still funny if you read it like theyre just lying about who can draw the sword and who cant though
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