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supernatural-flowers Ā· 1 year ago
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As I am watching the earlier seasons of SPN I find the relationship between Dean and Sam especially interesting. They care so much about each other, they are the brothers ever actually.
That episode with Gabriel trying to teach Sam that they canā€™t keep sacrificing oneself for the other one but they are just so devoted and dependent to each other that itā€™s impossible to live without the other one
Iā€™ll try and explain better when my thoughts on them feel more coherent
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chaoswillcalmusdown Ā· 2 years ago
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i really want to dissect season 2 episode 6 of the bear. like. the convo about claire. the mom stuff obv. carmy's gift for michael. the fact that sugar is literally about to become a mom herself which must be extra fucking terrifying, the tragedy of relatives being like 'haha i wonder if donna's gonna do something crazy' vs the berzatto kids' stress and anxiety levels, michael's behaviour at the table combined with carmy being like 'oh i didn't even know he was using' - which. ?!
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todayisafridaynight Ā· 1 year ago
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So what's one of your favorite Tsutsumi fits šŸ˜‰
random as hell question to be askin šŸ¤Ø so mysterious...
but since you did ask probably this one <3 from the second episode of pure <3
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#snap chats#i love his scarves and turtlenecks in this too- i love a lot of toru's outfits tbh. i just think he's cute in general </3#highkey its prob one of my faves cause this is also my favorite sequence of scenes#he and yuka are just esp cute it makes me giggle#their autism4autism love is my favorite..... fr this sequence is so cute like CAN I. RAMBLE about it real quick#cause it's a scene where yuka invites toru home but there's a sign left by her mom on the door that says not to let strangers in#and With His Eyes toru reads it like 'is it ok if im here ??' and yuka just šŸ„ŗ 'youre my friend and a nice person so its ok :)'#and then he just gives her The Stareā„¢ļø yk the one and i cry. AND THE SCENE AFTER WHEN SHE'S TRYING TO MAKE COFFEE--#guys this is my favorite episode for a reason idc pure still has a chokehold on me šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ theyre so cute..#back to the outfit tho its also just. VERY city-goer to me idk what it is. prob all the denim. prob cause its somethin my dad would wear--#im usually denim's number-one hater but if ttm's wearing it it's ok#OH ALSO update on OMC2: ttm IS in it TECHNICALLY but it's just a quick flashback segment#it's. it's a flashback to the ending scene ā˜ ļø#even in a movie he's not technically in he's still shirtless girl i cant#and yet he was never shirtless in THIS show... lol....#anyway yeah it this one <3 def had plans of stealing it since the store i usually shop at's having a sale and they're sellin a similar shir#that'll have to be plans for christmas i think....
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stargirlfics Ā· 2 years ago
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SARAH PAULSON?!!! JAMIE LEE CURTIS?!!!
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cheese-rat29 Ā· 10 months ago
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spn had the greatest kid actors, especially for sam and dean. these kids fuckin' nailed the characters.
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fuckedupsociety155 Ā· 1 year ago
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As a peruvian, I approve the message of what if...? S2e06.
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imtryingandtired Ā· 7 months ago
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Episode ideas for a NATM series that should exist
- McPhee ending up getting fired as museum curator because of complaints from museum guests not liking him all that much and getting replaced with a much worse person, so Larry tries to get him back
- War breaks out between the Wild West and Rome exhibit despite Jed and Octavius being friends now and them having to try getting to the bottom of this sudden aggression
- A buzzfeed unsolved type group starts to believe the natural history museum is haunted and decide to have a lockdown type stream in it to catch ghostly activity
- Larry has some time off as night guard and his temporary replacement ends up being the worst, leading to them trying to get Larry to come back
- Obligatory body swap or Freaky Friday episode for the fun of it
- Larry gets to go back to the Smithsonian after they borrow ahk and the tablet for a exhibit featuring the gate of kahmunrah (new wax statue or his actual corpse), him and Ahk reuniting
- The anniversary of Wea and Teddy getting together comes up and the exhibits try planning the perfect date for them, going the slightest bit overboard
- Halloween special where Ahk discovers a lone statue in the basement while exploring and befriends them, only to find out no statues are actually down there and revealed to be a spirit
- Christmas carol type episode with McPhee as Scrooge
- Flashback episode to Ahks childhood and eventual death (also this episode focusing on his time at Cambridge)
- One of Larryā€™s invention prototypes get discovered by some big tech boss who wants to help him make it big in the industry, making the exhibits worry that heā€™ll leave
- Teddy ends up having to be taken away for repairs after fetch with rexy gets too hectic, but when he comes back heā€™s acting completely different and the gang try to get to the bottom of it
- Ahk decides to sneak out of the museum one night to see how much the world has changed since heā€™s been let out of his sarcophagus and shenanigans ensue as Larry runs around New York trying to find him
Leave suggestions for other episode ideas
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fuckyeahgoodomens Ā· 1 year ago
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Hi, do you have the list of flashbacks we could have had but didn't? Thanks!
Hiya! Oooh, like the historical scenes? :) I shall try:
Season 1 - written but not shot:
In which Crowley gets drunk with Leonardo da Vinci - where Crowley does that and buys hisĀ Mona Lisa sketch. (in the ultimate script book)
The bookshop opening sceneĀ - with Gabriel and Sandalphon as Regency dandies, and Crowley bringing Aziraphale chocolates and saving him from having to leave the bookshop by ā€˜being promotedā€™ to Heaven. (in the ultimate script book)
In which Aziraphale almost sells a bookĀ - with Aziraphale as Victorian Bookseller. (shared byĀ Neil on his twitter or in the ultimate script book)
In which Crowley goes clothes shoppingĀ - scene preceding the 60s one where Crowley shops for ā€™psychedelic blackā€™ paisley jacket. (in the ultimate script book)
honourable mention: the Rome scene is a smol bit longer with Aziraphale and Crowley talking about Nero and Caligula - this was shot but cut (also in the scriptbook)
(also, I have like a foggish memory Neil mentioning considering them in the ancint egyptian era possibility? šŸ¤” can't find it so not sure :))
Season 2 - only planned or written but not filmed because covid shortened the episodes (covid costs made 55min episodes into 42min episodes :( ):
an Arabian Nights one by a British-Sudanese author who had made a study of the period and the material previously and she was determined to tell a story set in that time and place that wasnā€™t from, a ā€œstereotypical western vantage pointā€. It had a djinn.
a 15th century Papal one
a Wild West one
a 1960s American one with Crowley and Aziraphale female presenting.Ā 
Bonus: When Neil was asked about a Christmas special:
Not one thatā€™s going to be on this Christmas, no.
(Thinks, we could do the Birth of Jesus one, where Aziraphale is in the Inn and has rented out all the rooms to welcome Mary and Joseph, and then is sent out to be glorious to the shepherds and forgets to tell anyone at the Inn that the rooms arenā€™t just for him.)
(Or The Victorian one where Crowley, Aziraphale and the Usher Of Hell are determined to reform a miser by disguising themselves and turning up in his bedroom on Christmas Eveā€¦.)
(still hoping to get... all of them :D! <3)
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midnight1nk Ā· 2 months ago
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So, this week's episode...
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[spoilers below cut]
I KNEW IT!!! I knew that one of the two episodes left of the year had to be a holiday one aha!! *LE GASP* does that mean the last one will be sonic 3?
*nods* respect šŸ‘
A Christmas special with TARI, oooh! and noticeably a shorter one too, huh. alright, let's-a GOOOOOOOO
(the following is my live reaction:)
aww, look at Tari being adorable (see that's how you get me, have my favorite characters do cute little hops and my life is yours)
bringing back the side characters LET'S GOOOO
CLENCH omg you're back I hope you can stay for the whole episode
ooooh tari's christmas list just dropped. hmmm let's see...
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Saiko = KFC Theme Guitar (honestly slay) Mario = Spaghetti Necklace (whether he's going to wear or eat it, he'll enjoy it regardless) Kaizo = Scythe Polish Luigi = Gardening Kit SMG4 = Body Oder Spray (my man can't catch a break, "he stinks" canon) Belle = Nintendo Switch Case SMG3 = Dog Grooming Kit (for Eggdog awwww) Melony = How to draw Manga book (nice callback to "SMG4 and SMG3 Shop For Cursed Items" episode for Christmas shopping) Whimpu = Glasses Repair Kit Boopkins = Body Pillow Cleaning Kit (...) Bob = Karaoke Machine (that's actually sweet considering he is a rapper and the obvious choice would be a gun or smth, tari's a good friend) Rob = Corn Keychain
the cliche superhero transition *wheeze*
can I just say I love the fit Mario has on
1920's spaghetti?
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i did not expect to see Sonic 06 (foreshadowing, eh?) and as a sonic fan, i gotta respect the hustle
now, i know it's supposed to be disgusting and you obviously have to put gross things here to convey that but... there's that eye imagery again.... *flashbacks ensue*
oooh Christmas party! I wanna see that!
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aww tari did get clench a glove, maybe she didn't want to spoil the surprise too soon
also let's take a moment for that board in the bg:
"Random Text Here Shameless Advertising Happy Birthday smg4!" then something signed by a "Fan"
gotta love the small details
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gonna be using this as a reaction pic for now on
Mario, don't you guys have a basement? pretty sure no one will grab the bag in there
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA OMG OMG THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS REAL THEY ACTUALLY USED CANTRO'S OUTFIT DESIGN FOR THIS EPISODE THAT'S AWESOME DUDE (am aware that the Team used the model before in a previous ep but it was only shown for a few seconds, this is BIG)
new merch, eh?
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...i'll take your entire stock
Oh Tari, it's okay to say no. Four did ask if you had time
beautiful commercial....wha? Bob, da hell are you doing? oh the usual
charity? understandable, have a good day
PFFT HAHAHAHA that grenade bit somehow got me
oh Four somehow teleported outside, chair and all
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*wheeze* the way they just latch on the back of the cop car like that
BOOPKINS? ...yeah I should've seen that coming. and he's on a toddler seat too
question for the people: is UNO a board game? if not, then boopkins, you got it wrong buddy
RIGHT NOW?! boopkins she's got her hands full
GEEZ even I'm getting stressed
gonna be real here: it was actually a good choice to have the plot at a faster pace just so we could feel Tari's stress rapidly building up
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oh hey Meggy's matching with Mario (love that for the M&M siblings) but Saiko, girl, please get yourself a coat :( you're gonna freeze
OH GOD Tari, i need you to breathe please! all of this is stressing you out, it's okay to say no
...oh no
i can't look dude, i know Tari's technically fulfilling everyone's wishes but this isn't the way to go :(
C'MON TARI, HOPE YOU CAN MAKE IT IN TIME PLEASE
NO NO NO *flips table* oh poor Tari
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OH NO CAN I GIVE HER A HUG PLEASE? *shakes my laptop screen* LET ME INNNNNNN
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WTF NO SHE DOESN'T DESERVE THIS
TARI DON'T LISTEN TO THOSE VOICES IN YOUR MIND, YOU ARE A GOOD FRIEND
...three? let me turn the brightness up
yeah that's Four's model but for some reason has Three's voice and line.... huh... (I'll come back to this later)
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dude, i literally had to pause and leave the room
fuck you got me tearing up. Team, is that what you wanted from me?
no tari, it wasn't your fault :( you didn't ruin anything
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YES TELL HER, SAIKO
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STAWP I'M THIS šŸ¤ CLOSE TO FULL-ON SOBBING WTF
FAMILY IS FOUND šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘
...wha? Three?
wait, this whole episode was you were retelling what happened to Tari, to Eggdog?
...that actually puts things in a whole new context (I'll talk about it later)
*gets hit by the book*
AY Congrats to Mango for your art being featured in the end credits! šŸŽ‰ what an awesome Christmas gift from the Team honestly
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.惻-: āœ§ :--: āœ§ :-惻.
This was a fantastic Christmas special! This really punched me in the gut (but in a good way). Everything, as always, was amazing. Excellent job, Team!!! Too bad Clench couldn't be in the whole episode.
Oh Tari, my girl :( I felt the emotional rollercoaster along with her and I just wanted to give her a giant hug.
Me šŸ¤ Tari ā†’ people pleasers with a dose of abandonment issues
Tari, I've been there and I promise your friends aren't gonna leave you. What you can offer, what you're able to, that is worth something. It doesn't need to be material, just being a part of their lives is enough. No matter how big, because to them, it could mean a lot more than what you think.
It's what I've been struggling too, that the people who have approached me only wanted what I could offer, but not as a person. And it takes time to heal and open up again to people who are worth opening up to, but you'll get there.
So, to remind you (yes, the one behind the screen): you are enough. We are enough. What you do, means a lot more to other people than what you think. You'd be surprised how much a second of your presence means to people, and they value that. It's why it's okay to say no when you aren't able to, they'll understand if they truly do care for you. I promise, time will come around for you to find the good ones.
That's why I love this show. It isn't just a "silly meme show", it's so much more than that. Yes, it does have its funny moments but it can be emotional, dramatic, exciting. And even relatable. That's the point of stories. Like I said countless times before:
Every story, no matter how outlandish it seems, is grounded in reality.
That's why I'm glad this was one of the last episodes of the year, to bring it all back that it's a story that we all can relate to in some way. That we aren't alone. Grab each other by the hand and take one day at a time.
Oh boy, sorry for that emotional stuff. Just wanted to bring some comfort šŸ’™ With that, I'm gonna bring back what was the most interesting of this episode: SMG3
It wasn't until the very end that we realized this whole episode was Three retelling Tari's story not only to Eggdog but also to Terrance.
(If I remember the layout correctly, right in the same nook above the fireplace is where Terrance's photo is placed)
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So, yes, he is reading a bedtime story to both of his sons. (just gonna cry in the corner for a second) He's such a dad šŸ„ŗ
Anyway, i shall put my theorist goggles on:
Back in the part when Tari was too late to buy the Crew presents and the voices in her head were bashing her for failing, we have SMG3 for some reason come in:
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To be clear, that's Four's model (notice the lack of chip of the cap) but Three is the one saying: "And I thought I was evil..." Other than being the narrator, Three wasn't in the story, so the question is why?
The obvious would be that the Team simply made a mistake and forgot that they placed this in. Ok, sure, that's if it was on accident. But what if they did it on purpose?
As Three stated in the episode "Trash Friends", he truly believes he's "the worst version of SMG4"
Think about it: the basic roles for them are Four as the hero and Three as a villain.
If Three was ever in an episode all of a sudden is because he is the negative force of the story. Recall back to the episode "Meme Hunters" when Three was forced to be "the conflict" of the episode.
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Now, it may seem harmless but to him, he was afraid to be perceived as nothing more than "SMG4's cheap and worst copy"
And also in "You Used to Be Cool", people have noticed when he does lay back a bit from the usual villain/rival role and bash him saying, "This isn't you."
Hero or villain, you're seen differently by everybody
Then there was the whole "moral of the story" part:
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Ofc, it's a whole thing that Three refuses time after time that he's not friends with the Crew
Now with the context that we have, we just got a peek into Three's fears/insecurities. Basically: if he opens up and accepts that he has friends, they might try and take advantage of him. So, what should he do? Close himself off, be an asshole, and deny, deny, deny.
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Despite risking literally everything, INCLUDING HIS OWN LIFE, for them, he's doing this to protect himself from emotional harm when he's the most vulnerable.
There's indeed a trope that villains, especially redeemed ones, would have a sense of empathy of some kind. They know what's like to hit rock bottom, it's why they can empathize with the people who least deserve it, like Tari. (Even with Four back in IGBP.) So yes, as much as this is a story about Tari, it also relates to Three.
How can you have what you want when you're the one holding yourself back?
Three: "I also need love, understanding, and tenderness." [IGBP movie, Spanish dub] Three: " I just want the USB in that spaghetti in your stomach so I can use it to gain fame and love that SMG4 has too much of, okay?!" Mario: "...Is that it? Silly SMG3, you could of just told Mario instead of suppressing your inner emotions and your fear of being forever forgotten." [Trash Friends]
I mean, look at the last episode, he was so happy to know he got fanart.
The pressure he has, the role he has to play, what he's perceived as. It all affects him. Sure, he doesn't care that he's not perceived as the standard definition of a villain but he is really as human as he can be, with fears and desires.
Another way to see the "failure" part of the episode is that Three could never see Four in a negative light. Sure, Four has made terrible mistakes but past the YouTube Arc, Three has never seen Four as a villain (again, the role of the hero thing). Four is flawed just as he is, but since he's the one telling Tari's story, he replaces Four with himself in the narrative.
It's not confirmed it's because he cares about Four in this instant but it's obvious he has done it on purpose. All because that's the role he plays, one he absolutely fears, "an evil and worst copy of Four".
(For all we know, he might've altered some other things in the story we haven't even known about.)
AND the fact that he's telling it like a bedtime story to his son(s) as a warning, so they don't go through what he went through when he was younger (his whole parenting of reminding them that they're loved and appreciated for even the smallest things)
So, long story short: me šŸ¤ Tari šŸ¤ SMG3 ā†’ underlining abandonment issues
I've been noticing that a lot of points from past episodes are starting to resurface again (like IGBP) and I do hope we get to bring back what's going on with Three. Then, we might get Three having the same conclusion that Tari went through: as much as he wants to deny it to protect himself, he'll realize that it's okay to be vulnerable and have friends.
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And he'd be surprised how much of what he did was valuable to them. That what he seeks is already right in front of him. After all, he's already part of the Crew :)
He would just have to let himself avert his view and see the truth.
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taahko Ā· 1 year ago
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I just found your blog today can you please explain or point out a post that explains the MASH timeloop thing? I love the show but I've never heard anyone talk abt it that way before
oh yay hurray ive been waiting for an excuse to talk about this lmao sorry this is long
ok so basically maeve (my gf) and i started watching mash for the first time about a month ago and we started joking about it being like the characters were stuck in a time loop mostly because the same basic episode format is repeated over and over, because it's a sitcom from the 70s and the episodes arent meant to be watched en masse where you can start noticing all the little repetitions and plot holes and inconsistencies that naturally occur in longform tv
but then i started to pay attention to the dates being mentioned in the show - famously the korean war never technically ended, but american troops were involved in active on the ground fighting between 1950 and 1953, so the entire 11 seasons of mash have to be squeezed into that three year period. with 251 episodes occurring within 1,129 days, that gives every episode about 4.5 days of real time. so it works right? no time loop right? well wait a sec
for the first 5 seasons or so of mash they give very consistent dates about when things are happening. for example, bj arrives in korea in september of 1952, at the start of season 4. colonel potter arrives about a week after him, and talks about how he has 18 months left before his retirement. that gives us about 7 months for the shows final 7 seasons to take place in, meaning that by the episode 'point of view' in season 7 we should be around december of 1952. in that episode the pov character starts writing a letter home and in the corner he writes the date:
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september of 1951. ok, could be that this episode isn't meant to take place in the regular timeline of the season - maybe for some reason its just like, a random flashback episode. but bj, charles, and potter are all present, even though none of them got to korea until 1952. now i KNOW that this is not like, the True Hidden Secret Lore of MASH, this is the writers realizing they were running out of road and turning back the clock a bit to accommodate for how long the show was running on. but play in my time loop space with me please
more talking points:
consistent jokes about time zones and how difficult it is to call the states because "our today is their yesterday but if you call them now it might not reach them until our tomorrow and by that point our yesterday will be their today"
hawkeye's increasing mania over the seasons and his conviction that the war will never end, comparing the camp to dante's inferno multiple times. maeve once pointed out that the closer hawkeye comes to realizing that he's trapped in a time loop the closer he gets to being institutionalized - and what does the series finale cold open onto ? hawkeye in a mental institution. the only way out is to lose yourself etc. sidenote frank also escaped the time loop by going insane and getting institutionalized
in a war for all seasons bj potter and charles are all present at the 1951 new years party as well as the 1952 new years party
there are three christmas episodes, two of which bj is present for even though he should only have spent one christmas in korea
details of people's families and lives shift around - sometimes potter's got multiple grandchildren, sometimes he only has one, sometimes its a girl, sometimes its a boy, sometimes she's 5, sometimes he's 2
we're not the first people to talk about this either, here's a good video compilation posted a couple yrs ago of time loop moments
overall ive been using the time loop thesis to add another layer to my mash viewing experience. it increases the already present sense of constant dread, anger, frustration, and disgust with their situation that the characters feel, plus it feels like a very poignant take on the united states' constant warmongering and violent existence. it really never ends, it just goes on an on. the future's been canceled by the war department- we're just gonna replay the past.
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bylerismyeverything Ā· 2 months ago
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The way I see it, Sorcerer could be one of two storylines (or both tbh). So we know that this is the episode with the miwi flashbacks. And the name ā€˜Sorcererā€™ greatly hints about this episode being centered around Will.
1. This could be either the episode that byler happens in or be largely significant to their development as a ship.
2. And hear me out on this- Will might get powers in that episode. Ok so I think thereā€™s some reason why Will can still feel everything upside down related and I honestly think him having powers would make a lot of sense. If you look back at season one you might see the scenes of Will communicating with Joyce, but did you ever wonder how he did that? Will talked to her through the Christmas lights and painted letters which he shouldnā€™t have seen since the upside down is frozen in the day he disappeared, he also found a way to communicate through his house phone and call Joyce from the upside down, weā€™ve seen him dangerously close to the demogorgon which probably means he had a plan and means to escape, this happened once in the song playing scene to the demogorgon breaking through his bedroom wall, and another time in the Byers living room in which he- and I think thatā€™s the biggest proof- opens a gate. Yeah I know what you probably think, the gate just opened on its own or maybe the demogorgon opened it but imagine it from the upside down. In no scenario would Will see the demogorgon opening a gate and run towards him, and the demogorgon also opens very different gates (when he tears down the walls). And a gate has never opened on its own. In addition weā€™ve never seen what happened to Will in the upside down and he never talked about it. I think this would all eventually lead to Will powers reveal (probably in a time where Mike is in imminent danger), and what would be a better time to do that than an episode called ā€œSorcererā€?
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will80sbyers Ā· 2 months ago
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STRANGER THINGS 5 PRODUCTION MASTERPOST / part 007
October 22 / 2024
Pics from the Creel house with Jamie there + rovickie news
Circus stuff + Finn arriving at the radio station set
Holly on set at the Creel house
Again
Jamie on set dressed as Henry
Vecna's make up + Noah hinting at the mind flayer imo
October 25 / 2024
POSSIBLY Eleven on set at the Creel house but it's not confirmed that it's her
October 28 / 2024
Will is the centre of the story in season 5
October 29 / 2024
New pic of the UD tunnels
They literally posted trashcans, this is probably in the hospital set and something Demogorgon-like is happening because lights are flickering
October 31 / 2024
El spotted in the UD with Hopper and a 3rd person that we think is a random kid that they have to save, sadly it's not Erica teaming up with them: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5
Finn gets a coffee ā˜• Mike was at the lab set with Will and Robin
Searching for random musicians (probably for a graduation scene as we learned )
November 2 / 2024
Military checkpoint set probably where the Bradley's truck gets attacked by monsters: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5
A good picture of the gay van *ahem* I meant the blue radio station van
November 4 / 2024
Various BTS pics of cars and the kid with Hop and El in the UD
November 5 / 2024
Blood prints in downtown Hawkins + military and random stuff
Is there a battle going on in Hawkins?
November 6 / 2024 ( Stranger Things DAY!!! )
ALL the names of the episodes
NEW BTS PICTURES WILL, MIKE, LUCAS, DUSTIN, NANCY, JONATHAN, STEVE, JOYCE AND HOPPER !!!! Promo pictures quality šŸ„°
+ the duffers and a BTS of a scene with lots of characters (the names are written on the chairs)
Filming in downtown Hawkins with the military / again
November 7 / 2024
Video of Noah/WILL AT CASTLE BYERS
November 12 / 2024
My speculation on this scene
November 14 / 2024
New military in downtown Hawkins scenes + blue van... Steve, Robin, Hopper, Murray and Linda Hamilton's character
November 15 / 2024
Searching for real couples and dog walkers idk
Filming at the Wheeler house and the lab (?)
Finn spotted on set as Mike - again
November 17 / 2024
BTS pics of random stuff
November 20 / 2024
There's no Christmas epilogue like we thought but they were looking for catering people maybe for the graduation or something like that also they have been filming at Mike's house and Gaten + Finn and maybe Jonathan's double were spotted on set
November 21 / 2024
These could be doubles but we have a scene with Will, Dustin, Joyce, Nancy, Mike, (maybe) Lucas and Robin: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 (maybe this is Mike and not Steve?)
November 22 / 2024
They aren't decorating for Christmas (sadly) because we found out it was the town doing that and they took the decorations down to film BUT it's still confirmed that Hawkins gets saved and not destroyed
Jamie has wrapped filming as Henry Creel
Random AF - they hired this group for the 200 day of filming party
November 25 / 2024
Downtown Hawkins and BTS stuff random + Karen working
Again
November 26 / 2024
BTS pic of a Demogorgon at the hospital, it's basically confirmed that they are gonna attack there, also we found out that the IF poster behind is a AIDS prevention poster
New set in an abandoned school
Matthew Modine (Brenner) posted and OLD video hinting that he might return as Brenner in S5, I think he'll be in some visions or flashbacks
November 27 / 2024
1989 GRADUATION TIMEEE
Spoilers of who survives the finale and makes it to the epilogue (unless that's all a dream/vision lol)
December 1 / 2024
Downtown Hawkins has been rebuilt and there's a movie set (probably for the Lumax date)
December 2 / 2024
SPOILERS FOR WHO SURVIVES - conversation between two characters on a bench near the monument of the fallen in the epilogue in 1989
We have lots of pictures and videos of this scene :
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 / 9 / 10 / 11 / 12 / 13 / 14 / 15 / 16
Kids in the epilogue that I thought after posting this, maybe will remind one of the characters of when the Party was little
The blue van was filming but not for the epilogue
Searching for extras, not for the graduation but for a SPOILER!!!! .... College scene for someone in 1990
December 4 / 2024
SPOILERS of some names in the monument of the fallen
December 5 / 2024
My theory about Lumax
December 10 / 2024
Coffee for Gaten
December 11 / 2024
SPOILERS OF THE CHARACTERS THAT SURVIVED THE FINALE (at least for the leaks)
December 12 / 2024
They filmed a scene at a bar with some characters, spoiler of the epilogue
December 13 / 2024
SPOILERS OF THE EPILOGUE - two characters meeting in 1990 :
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6
December 15 / 2024
WILL on set, 1987 because of the outfit and also Derek is there and El too : 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5
Headless stonathan spotted
SPOILERS OF THE FINALE / EPILOGUE
For my personal speculation about stuff you can search St5 speculation ( warning āš ļø there's lots of byler lmao)
GO TO -> 001 / 008
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Nat is called Sugar far less in season 2 than in season 1.Ā 
The nickname Sugar has a lot of significance.Ā  Firstly, itā€™s notable because itā€™s an ingredient.Ā  Itā€™s used in the kitchen, but it has no agency in the kitchen.Ā  We see in the flashbacks in season 1 that both Carmy and Nat are not allowed in Mikeyā€™s kitchen, but itā€™s in different ways.Ā  Carmy and Mikey cook together, but Carmyā€™s not allowed to take the final step and follow him to the Beef.Ā  Nat, however, is rejected from the cooking process altogether ā€“ sheā€™s belittled and stopped when she tries to add raisins, her cooking isnā€™t right, it isnā€™t good enough.Ā  Sheā€™s an ingredient in the kitchen, nothing more.Ā  Similarly in the present day she at first has a similar role: sheā€™s in Carmyā€™s life, she turns up at the Beef, she comes across at first as miserable and nagging (which she is, and reasonably! Her brother just killed himself! Her other brother looks like heā€™s headed in the same direction!).Ā  She hates the Beef and everything it stands for, so while sheā€™s there, she takes no part in it, she refuses to engage in it, just as she is not allowed to engage in the family activity in the flashback.Ā 
(Notably, sugar as an ingredient is often dismissed as merely existing to sweeten food.Ā  However, itā€™s crucial for many other aspects of baked goods such as moistness, texture, and sometimes leavening.Ā  Sugar is seen by many as something to cut out, or cut down on, but itā€™s essential in tying together the finished product.)Ā 
Secondly, the nickname Sugar itself, we learn in season 2, comes from a place of humiliation.Ā  This information further cements the idea that Sugar doesnā€™t belong in the kitchen ā€“ she mixes up sugar and salt, and sheā€™s known forever for it, sheā€™s known forever for the fact that she canā€™t cook, that she doesnā€™t cook.Ā  Given how important food is for the Berzattos (clearly) this just serves to alienate her from the heart of the family.Ā  Calling her that is a constant reminder that sheā€™s not part of it all in the same way her brothers are, calling her that in the present is a reminder that sheā€™s not part of the restaurant.Ā  And when the restaurant becomes her brothersā€™ whole lives, sheā€™s not allowed to be part of that either.Ā  Sheā€™s estranged when we meet her, looking in, trying to reach out but struggling to do so.Ā 
Iā€™m pretty sure Pete never calls her Sugar, he might be the only one not to.Ā  This is because heā€™s an icon a legend the moment.Ā  However, side note on Pete ā€“ he does cook.Ā  In the Christmas flashback he brings tuna casserole.Ā  His cooking, however, isnā€™t right for the family.Ā  He was specifically told not to bring food (not to bring sustenance, not to bring care) and he does anyway! But this sustenance doesnā€™t fit with the rest of the family, with Donnaā€™s expectations (and the episode is all dancing around Donna, around her dysfunction, and Peteā€™s steadiness and kindness doesnā€™t fit in a household like that), so itā€™s rejected.Ā  It starts to make a lot more sense why everyone hates him in season 1.Ā  Importantly also, I think, itā€™s tuna casserole.Ā  This dish is often maligned as bland or boring or goofy, and Pete can seem that way when compared with the high energy and intensity of the Berzattos.Ā  But it has staying power because itā€™s cheap and simple and it lasts, because itā€™s versatile, because it can be comforting.Ā  Pete isnā€™t a flashy character, you wonder sometimes at first why Nat married him.Ā  But heā€™s deeply deeply kind and comforting and steady, wholly at odds with the Berzattos and completely what Nat needs.Ā  And to him, sheā€™s not Sugar because sheā€™s not alienated from him.
Obviously with time and effort Nat and Carmy get closer.Ā  We find out she cosigned for the Beef, she is part of this even if she doesnā€™t seem to be.Ā  She gets involved more and more with the building, at first out of necessity but later out of care.Ā  Season 2 rolls around and she becomes project manager, she slowly admits she works there, she takes on more and more responsibility with it.Ā  She gets closer to the other employees, itā€™s clear she and Syd have a real friendship going on.Ā  She gets happier, she loves it! And I donā€™t have time to unpack it now but I think thereā€™s something there about the fact that sheā€™s pregnant and this is a family restaurant, that she gets to help make it better.Ā  If the Beef is the family, Nat gets to make it something functional.Ā  Something something breaking cycles.Ā  And as she gets closer into the kitchen (to the extent that sheā€™s wiping plates in the last episode, sheā€™s got an apron on, sheā€™s literally right there in the middle of it), as she gets less alienated and more involved, sheā€™s Nat more and more often.Ā  When sheā€™s called Sugar in the Christmas episode itā€™s almost a surprise because she hasnā€™t been referred to by it for a while.Ā  Sheā€™s not being made fun of for her outsider status anymore, sheā€™s being let in.Ā  Sheā€™ll never mix up sugar and salt again.Ā  Ā 
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metacrisisdoctor Ā· 2 years ago
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i think sometimes people have a hard time seeing jackie as an individual person and this leads to them sort of seeing her as a villian in rose's story.
in my opinion it's pretty important that as much as jackie is sometimes wrong about things, she is also right about a lot of things as well.
i do feel like jackie was unintentionally holding rose back out of fear of losing her, hence her "airs and graces" comment etc- but rarely do people think of why jackie feels like this.
think of jackie tyler. in doomsday she is forty. this means when we meet her and rose she is 39, meaning she had rose at age 20, meaning she was pregnant at age 19- the same age rose is when we meet her.
19 is young.
think of jackie tyler, age 21, widowed with an infant daughter, on an estate and looked down upon. in army of ghosts we see that jackie's father passed away years ago, and we never see her mother either.
this is partly why the fandoms universal eyeroll at love and monsters frustrates me. that episode fleshes jackie out and shows us how deeply alone she is, but how loyal she is to rose despite the fact that the only family she has sees her as second best. the tentoo and jackie big finish audios also bring attention to this. jackie is not afraid of rose advancing in life, she is afraid of being left behind. because she has no one.
it pains me that the bf audios with her and tentoo aren't more widely known because they explore jackie and her relationship with both the doctor and rose a lot. we see how much jackie loves, and has always loved, the doctor. how she too missed him after doomsday. how she wants to be close to him again but she's afraid of what him being back in rose's life means as well, because now that the doctor is in their world, what is stopping them from leaving again? and i think it's important that jackie feels that way because it shows that her love for rose isn't just because she was lonely, despite it having had played a large part.
she genuinely loves them both and does not want to be without them, so much so that she says if/when the tardis grows the doctor has to take them all- because he has a family now. this mirrors the doctor telling donna that rose had a family and that they had become his family as well in the runaway bride.
in this sense, we should know that the doctor and jackie are on the same page. we know how much he missed rose and how that extends to the sense of family he found in the christmas invasion. however, jackie's own poor self image leads to her projecting her own fear of being left behind onto tentoo and to his relationship with rose and it causes friction in their relationship until they can both be honest with each other in the climax of the audios when they're about to die together and realize they want to live, which is why rose trapped them into talking in the first place.
jackie struggles because rose was so young when she met the doctor, and she was RIGHTFULLY wary of their relationship considering the last time rose trusted a man he left her behind and took all her money. in the audios we hear jackie say that she was the one who payed off all of rose's debts which is a stark contrast to the idea some people seem to have that jackie didn't have a job and mooches off of rose entirely- which makes no sense anyway because how does she keep the lights on at home when rose is missing for an entire year? it's much more plausible that she and rose both have jobs, and that she was going to look for a second job.
jackie gets everything she wanted in a sense. her husband back, a son, rose is still with her, but her own low sense of self is something that is hard for her to shake off because she has been looked down upon for so long because of who she is and how she was raised, so much so that the thought that rose looks down on her terrifies her. in the end of time flashback we sees jackie say that at that point in her life she isn't gonna do much better; but rose tells her she doesn't know that which speaks volumes. rose is afraid of falling victim to the helplessness jackie has in the last twenty years, but we also see that deep down jackie also wants more to her life as well, she just thinks it's too late.
jackie is proud of rose, she grows to love the doctor, but her fear of rose losing herself entirely is a valid one. just like rose wanting more out of life is valid as well. they're both right and they're both wrong which is why they bicker but also very very clearly absolutely love each other more than anything.
this is why the ending rose gets is perfect for everyone. rose gets to keep defending the earth at unit with the doctor, a life that she always wanted. the doctor gets to, in one life, have a family and be human and jackie gets to find her sense of self again and find "more" in her life, and doesn't lose what makes her who she is at all because people like jackie - working class people - are the ones who make it possible for "bigger" things to happen which is what the purpose of the back and forth between rose and jackie is. rose wanting more from her life is valid, but it's also important to rememeber not to look down on people who you subconsciously see as "less" because "less" is just as valuable.
of course rose leaving helped jackie grow, but sometimes the way people talk about jackie is unintentionally classist while also defending rose from classism.
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demodraws0606 Ā· 2 months ago
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TADC and Duos
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I was thinking back to this christmas promo and it kinda made something click for me.
I think there may be set duos/dynamics that the writing is trying to set up here.
We know Digital Circus's themes of companionship and friendship but we always see it in the lense of Pomni's relationship with everyone.
However I think there are actually gonna be set duos that are gonna be specifically ride or die to one another which will then form the full friendship group. Now the obvious one is Gangle and Zooble, they share thematic similarities and the way Zooble treats her probably comes from how they in a way relates to Gangle's struggles.
Here's where it gets interesting though, Kinger and Ragatha.
I'll be completely honest people undersell their potential friendship a lot especially with episode 2.
Kinger actually helps to ease Ragatha's worries when he has the bucket on his head. They're also I believe are canonically the two first people to have joined the circus, while also being the two oldest.
Considering Ragatha's episode is next there is kind of a question on who could potentially help her.
Things are too awkward with her and Pomni, same with Gangle and I don't think Zooble could help much.
However it would work very well to have Kinger be the one to help Ragatha, I mean he's been basically just been MIA in episode 4 it would make sense that he goes back in the spotlight a little bit.
I think also Kinger's memory issues could help Ragatha in a strange weird way, she could say what she honestly feels, all the negative stuff and Kinger wouldn't have to remember it.
So that leaves us with Jax and Pom..... (flashback to Goose saying Pomni and Jax's relationship is "messy")
Yeah that would technically leave us with her and Jax as the last duo (if we count Cain which I'm not going to bc he's a freak).
I don't honestly know what that duo could possibly hold. There is something interesting about how Jax actually genuinely wanted to interact with Pomni in episode 4.
What I think there could be here is Pomni maybe cautiously wanting to help Jax and him playing hot and cold between not wanting isolation and not wanting to be vulnerable (aka he probably doubles down on his asshole-ry)
It will probably be not as sweet as Kinger/Ragatha and Zooble/Gangle but yknow what, i'm here for it.
Edit : Actually there is also possibility of Pomni and Cain being a duo thing, there is some interesting stuff there. And Jax being alone would make a lot of sense.
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copepods Ā· 9 days ago
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ok arcane s1 act 1 misc thoughts (SPOILERS)
-i like that a lot of the rich characters (cait's family, some council members) have transatlantic accents. i didnt really notice at first but upon rewatch of ep 2 it was super apparent and i love it
-i never got super into vander's character bc by the end of ep 1 i was like Yeah this guy is super dead. the 2 other kids who died as well (never even learned their names lol). also there was a lot more vander + silco than i thought there would be? like they laid it all out at once. i kind of knew they knew each other in the past from fandom osmosis but i expected it to be more of a slow burn reveal i guess
-im interested to see what the show does with ekko specifically. i know he becomes more prominent later on AND has stuff going on with jinx/powder, which i was honestly expecting them to set up more? like have them be friends or like talk to each other once lol. anyway he was pretty minor thus far so im intrigued in what they're gonna do with him
-i know vi goes to prison after this, but the guard who chloroformed her seemed to be trying to save her??? so i have no idea what's happening actually
-i knew silco was gonna adopt powder but i was honestly expecting it to be more? calculated? on his part? like he finds out powder was the one who blew up the building, and is like ooooh new talent. hey kid. do you want to join my gang of evil drug warlocks. but nope he genuinely reached out to her in a moment of grief against his better judgement. kind of a baller move mr. lesbian i respect that
-also powders eyes turned purple for emotional reasons and not magic drug reasons? cool. didnt know peoplw could do that
-Heimerdinger War Flashback last episode was kind of really funny im sorry i cant take this guy seriously. but i also got distracted because there were horses in the flashback and for some reason that surprised me? it did not occur to me that horses exist in the arcane universe. they just don't fit the vibe. also this guy is transparently what if yoda were lorax
-also i wanna know how the fuck jayce and his mom and the wizard (viktor probably) got to piltover after all that in the flashback. did the wizard summon a honda civic to drive them home or what. also, what were they doing there??
-and jayce keeps saying "magic real. ive seen it" but refusing to elaborate??? if i got saved by a wizard who warped space and time then gave me a cool rock i would make it my personality. which i guess he kind of did but you'd think he'd be telling people about it more. maybe he thinks people won't believe him? silly jayce. magic tech isnt real. you escaped the siberian tundra through the power of science. athiests on christmas waiting for charles darwin to come down the chimney etc
-i cant tell if mel is just one councilmember and not like above all the others OR straight up the president or whatever? she clearly has influence but i cant tell if she's everyone elses boss or not. maybe they said something about that in dialogue and i missed it. also is piltover an oligarchy or do they inherit their council positions or what? somehow i don't feel like normal democracy is on the table here
-what is it exactly jayce (and viktor) were trying to do WITH the magic? this always bugs me in tv shows when they just say "im working on some Science Tech Inventions" and dont elaborate on what those inventions are. are the magic balls a source of infinite renewable energy??? please tell me what you're actually doing with the sparkly zero-g machine
-vander's dying words being "protect powder" and vi immediately doing the opposite of that is crazyyyyy sure hope that doesnt haunt her for the rest of her life lol
-was genuinely distracted by the cool ass crab logo on the abandoned building. that was sick as hell. i love crabs
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