#This is as dumb as the argument

[enixamyram]

I truly do not get the "Angel sexually harassed Husk!!! He's awful and it's gross the writers never addressed it!!!" mindset some of the anti's have. Especially when the show very much did address it very clearly in a way that I, personally, believe was very well done:

"Maybe I'd treat you better if you were real, and not some bullshit version of yourself. Always pushin' my boundaries."

Husk openly calls Angel is a jerk for the way he treated him. He (and the writers) make it very clear that Angel's constant sexual advances bothered him. And this isn't a revelation moment either since it's obvious during every moment prior that Husk doesn't like the way Angel behaves with him, even if he puts up with it. He physically expresses his discomfort and dislike for it each time and you'd have to be blind to miss it.

People like myself may find a line of Angel's to be funny, but it's the same way we find other lines funny. (Like Val's: "Not off camera you're not!") As in, it was amusing the way the line was said. But that doesn't mean we're ignoring or missing the seriousness behind the issue in reality. (I mean, some people might be, but in general I think most of the audience is not like this.)

More importantly, all of this is literal Character Development. In all further episodes, Angel stops acting this way with Husk entirely. And only after he stops acting this way, is when Husk and him start to genuinely get on as friends.

I've seen some people complain that Angel never officially apologised for his actions. And yes, while we don't seen an on screen "I'm sorry for what I did to you", it's very clear that there has been something based off of the very next shot of them:

Even if he hasn't said those exact words, Loser Baby was an entire song about how they understand where each other is coming from, why they act how they do and how they can now change that by leaning on each other for support instead. Loser Baby is, in its own kind of subtle way, an apology between them. Just because we're not spoon fed scenes doesn't mean they didn't happen off screen.

Anyway. You don't have to like the ship. But can we stop trying to find problematic reasons why no one else should like them either and just grow up and say it's personally not your thing?

[oifaaa]

"Why would Padme choose Anakin when Obi-wan was right there" Shut Up Maybe the fact that Padme did choose Anakin and agreed to marry him after a week should tell you a wee bit more about what type of person Padme is

[maladaptivewriting]

i think it’s funny when people get up in arms about someone shipping two men because they think it’s cause the person “hates women”

like just on a personal level, irl, i hate men. i believe they should start off in jail and work their way out.

[tyrianludaship]

if you unironically think "proshippers made the selfship community", I will banish you to the dumbass dimension for all eternity.

[cod-dump]

Nik: I have rizz

Laswell: You have brown eyes and a insane personality. You have no rizz

Nik: Well, it worked on Price so- Rizz

Laswell: You could punch him and that would work on him

Nik: Because of my rizz

Laswell: YOU DON’T HAVE ANY RIZZ

Nik: I HAVE GAME THEN

Laswell: NO-

[pigswithwings]

if you are presenting an opposing opinion and quoting it by making up a hypothetical person. and you make that hypothetical person speak with a stutter to make it seem worse. youre a jerk ok

[unnecessary-dinosaurs]

A dumb comic i started forever ago and kept forgetting about. Finally finished it purely out of spite. Anyways silly domestic Bowman brothers I love them so much.

Season five timeskip save me. Save me season five timeskip I love you.

[local-hellhound-steals-spaghetti]

Genuinely would love to meet the "purely positive" dog trainers that aversive/balanced trainers keep talking about. You know, the ones that are so against using force that they just let their dogs walk into traffic.

Boy, they sure must lose a lot of dogs every year and honestly I'm amazed they're still alive themselves if they're getting dragged in front of a semi trailer every time they go out for a walk...

[ghostellie]

Expecting every junior driver to be the next Max Verstappen is stupid

[l3viat8an]

MC: Fuck you!

Belphie: Fuck you!

MC: Fuck you!

Belphie: Fuck you!

MC: Fuck you!

Belphie: Fuck me!

MC: Fuck..you?…

Belphie: *Smirking* Fuck me!

MC: Okay- No! No, not again!!

Belphie:*Laughing*

[objectiveunknown]

Oh so trans women just transition to beat cis women at sport?

So trans men just transition to lose to cis men at sport right?

Because sport is at the total centre of every trans persons life?

That’s why we take hormones and wear binders which actively make exercise/gaining muscle mass harder and more painful of course…

And there’s no way that an afab and amab person could ever be physical equals right?

So if a trans masc pro boxer and a trans femme person who never exercised had a physical fight the trans femme person would easily win because she’s amab?

✨Makes sense to me✨

[cloud-based-and-rainpilled]

I’ve been highly confused as to why Michael “deeply openly thirsting on Twitter about David Tennant for half a decade” Sheen is half-in half-out the closet but apparently Wales is absurdly homophobic lmao what the fuck how is a country the size of New Jersey that much of a hater bruh we out number the shit out of you

[huntingrays]

jason: i’m not sure who to ask to be my best man when i get married. i was considering reyna but can she even take such a role now that she’s a hunter and swore of the company of men?

leo: what the fuck?! why wouldn’t you ask me, your best friend?

jason: because you already have a role that’s much more important

leo: and that is?

jason: the groom

leo: oh

leo: wait, are you proposing right now?!

[lyonface]

Genuinely convinced that the people who love Ascended!Astarion and argue with people about him genuinely loving Tav the same way he did before, or it being his best ending over Spawn (in terms of character arc, not taste) legit only picked the enthusiastic options for Tav when dealing with him, and most certainly didn't break up with him and talk to him afterward. He says some downright chilling shit to a Tav who refused to become a spawn.

And like, sure, it's because he's hurt and he's coping to some degree. Astarion can be vicious even in a good mode, and Tav agreeing to help him ascend only to essentially abandon him is painful to deal with, but of all the shit for him to say??

Tav can argue that he's becoming like Cazador the night before, and he gets so hurt and angry if Tav says that, and it makes sense! It's a harsh thing to say, and even after that argument, no matter what, Astarion will be willing to let it go if Tav wants to stay together and agrees to become his Spawn. You can run through the entire dialogue tree again before it forces you to pick an out option, that's how desperate he is to keep them. But like goddamn how can you beat the accusations if you're willing to say shit like this?? A thing that could have easily come straight from Cazador!

Regardless, however, of his desperation, his real feelings, Ascended!Astarion is fundamentally different, in his mind, than how he used to be. Magic has literally corrupted him, changed what his body is capable of, the curse that he was given as a spawn is different now. Sure, Astarion didn't stop loving Tav the second the ritual was over, or the day after or the day after that, but even he knows he's changing, and rapidly, but he can only recognize so much of what's different, and everyone else can see what he can't. By his epilogue at the end of the game, he might as well be another vampire lord, just far, far more dangerous.

[geegers22]

Some Zukka shippers need to understand that “Zutara shippers spend so much time arguing that their ship should be canon. Zukka shippers don’t care if our ship is canon or not because we’re above the ship wars” isn’t the sick burn they think it is.

Like YEAH obviously. Zukka is a ship that has almost no standing in canon in the first place. So many Zukka shippers admit that they are drawn towards the dynamic because they just like to see the characters together (there’s nothing wrong with liking a ship for this reason).

But the entire reason that Zutara is still as popular today as it was 15 years ago is because the narrative strongly suggests that it would be canon. If ATLA was a bottle, many Zutara shippers believe that the wrong cap was screwed on in its final moments.

Zukka is a ship that is not backed by the narrative while Zutara is heavily backed by the narrative. So of course our conversations are going to revolve around different topics.

It’s not “above the ship wars” to complain about Zutara shippers gathering too much evidence that our ship should be canon, it’s actually inserting yourself into the ship wars.

[rin-tezuka]

I think an important part of the mythologizing by TME people about like, Nazi Phase Transfems or Transfem 4Channers is just outright commitment to erasure of non-white transfems who take issue with them.