#Is this to say all Christians are bad people?

[sigmaleph]

I have to say, I feel like a lot of the people doing this stuff are just better at believing in things than I am; they are not haunted by any hobgoblin of consistency. They have a powerful and effective instinct -- imperfect, but what isn't? -- for the places where being right will or won't strongly improve their own life, all without ever thinking of it in those terms, without ever conceptualizing this as a distinction between knowing and feeling!

This does not seem especially plausible to me.

I don't know why precisely people both profess to believe false things and also fail to act on many of the implications of those beliefs, but I don't think it's some skill they have, and it seems much more likely to be skills they lack.

namely, reasoning from the nature of the world to come to accurate conclusions about what things are plausibly real is a skill, and noticing that your beliefs imply you should take actions you aren't is also a skill, and lots of people are bad at one or both. It would be unsurprising if they were correlated.

And further, being wrong about something it's important to get right generally implies feedback mechanisms that will push you to rightness. In the extreme case, if you are wrong about vaccines and don't vaccinate your kids they might get sick from preventable diseases and die. But really most of the feedback is social, from people telling you that you are a putting your kids (and others) at risk.

If people were in the habit of killing themselves in ways they expect to leave ghosts in a quest for immortality, there would be strong feedback mechanisms trying to stop you from doing that. (allegedly the prohibition against suicide in Christianity developed precisely as an antibody against people making the inference that if the reward for dying a martyr is heaven, surely you should arrange to be martyred as soon as possible). This, I think, is more likely to explain why people often avoid acting on the implications of false beliefs that would hurt them than an intuition for only being wrong in harmless ways: most of them don't think about the implications of their beliefs, and in the rare cases when they do it goes badly and doesn't incentivise people to imitate them.

Separately I am also sceptical about the psychological benefits of being wrong about ghosts and I think you jump to assuming they must exist on thin evidence.

there are questions it is a lot more important to get right than 'are ghosts real', of course. like 'should I vaccinate my children' or 'is this person calling me actually an employee at my bank'. but it's a little concerning when people can't get the ghosts one right, because it's a really fucking easy one. what if there's a more important question they are also getting wrong for the same reason?

[jesncin]

Look I'm gonna put my two cents in on the 'everyone knowing Clark is Superman' thing. Do I have anything new to add, don't know, but I understand passing so here are some things I know:

First of all, even if Clark was bad at hiding his alieness, people wouldn't know. Trust me, I have been mistaken for Christian (despite giving no evidence that I was) a lot, just because I'm not what people stereotypically expect look-wise from a person of my actual religion. It's not even that I'm so far from the expectation, but Christianity is the norm so what else could I be? I am Christian until proven otherwise, white until proven otherwise. And Clark is human until proven otherwise. People are constantly making assumptions, so unless Clark straight up flies into the Daily Planet building, no, no one is going to notice.

Second of all, Clark wouldn't be bad at hiding, he's been hiding his whole life. If people find out, it's not just Clark's family at risk, but his own life, and rights. So, yeah, I think him being an alien is important enough to keep under wraps.

I get why people like the trope, and to be honest, I hadn't thought of it much until these recent conversations. At the end of the day, people like to think they are smart enough to figure it out. And you feel special, knowing a big secret like that, you feel important. I think it's also part of it is this savior narrative that makes people feel good about themselves, like when people say they would've helped escaping black slaves or hid Jews during the Holocaust (by the way, some of these people are absolutely lying). Obviously those are much more extreme examples, but eh I'm tired. And keeping a secret is a much more accessible way (less bravery involved) to be a decent person.

Yuup I think people forget the context that when you're attempting to clock someone as "x identity" you're pulling from a well of biases that are probably pretty limited. I'm assumed several types of Asians before what I actually am, especially when I'm in America but certainly not limited to there. The "Clark is human until proven otherwise" part is on the money. It's why I can't stand MAWS!Jimmy apparently figuring out Clark is a super-powered alien from breaking things constantly. Regardless of how ridiculous that characterization is for Clark (he should've gotten his powers in control by that age), is concluding that he's an alien really the next logical step? How about "huh we live in an ass apartment if things keep breaking" or "your shoes broke again? you gotta stop buying cheap ones".

I've said it before but it bears repeating, these "Everyone Knows Clark is Superman/undocumented immigrant" hcs always de-center Clark's personal life for the sake of an allyship narrative. Clark has been hiding his alien side since childhood. There's no way he wouldn't be good at hiding it by adulthood, especially considering the very real risks that even his adoptive parents understood when they forged documents to keep him safe.

Yup to that last bit too. Similarly I think readers feel confident with their metatextual knowledge of knowing who Clark and Superman are so they feel it's obvious and are frustrated when characters in Superman's context don't. And they want to prove they could be better. It's the self gratification at the expense of a lot of Clark's characterization and basic logic.

[adam--official]

I know I've been doing more mod posts than roleplay posts but christ aliveeee do you know how many expletives we use.in day to day life. "Oh my god," "Jesus Christ," "fuck," "what the hell," "goodness," "holy shit," or anything similar!!! All expletives are cultural, most of them involving religion or taboos. Fuck is a swear because sex is frowned upon, son of a bitch is a swear because having a child outside of wedlock is frowned upon, shit is a swear because excrement is viewed as gross, and don't even mention all the ones relating to Christianity! Anything "holy" is relating to God, saying Oh My Anything is essentially a prayer, "damn" refers to sending something to hell, even "oh, man" is a weird cultural thing that I don't know the meaning of but definitely stemmed from something specific. The only way I can get away with saying oh man is when I'm actually having Eve refer to Adam as man. Like "speak not to me of blasphemy, man!" sorta thing. They don't have the names Adam and Eve yet so it.works. the closest thing to an expletive I've used is when Adam refers to gods burning hand, "burning" being the expletive here because it hurt. But how do I use a swear when these people have never experienced any pain, and nothing is taboo? I'm kind of just having them groan and yell a lot

With the angels it's easier. They were created specifically to serve God, so anything outside of God is bad. The view everything in the context of The Lord™. They don't say things like "oh.my god" because that stems from praying, it's more like a quick plea, and angels don't pray. They do say things like "forsaken", to imply that God doesn't like that thing and therefore it sucks. It's used in a similar way to "damn," such as "I stubbed my toe on that forsaken coffee table" or "God forsake this mess!" The angel insults are wild too, they're not allowed to say anything that directly insults God, or imply that God is anything but Good, so I have to get creative. So they're saying things like "I fear God was distracted during the moment of your creation." It's very passive-aggressive, southern-baptisty. They say "God forsake" when they mean fuck as a verb. Like "God forsake you" instead of "fuck you." The angels of a higher rank are usually more aggressive with their insults because they know they're useful and they know that as long as they have no genuine bad feelings towards God, He doesn't care. The lower ranking ones (foot soldiers mostly) rarely ever insult anyone or imply anything remotely negative at all about God because they fear His wrath and they know they're expendable.

With the Fallen (angels, aka devils) it's not hard. They say things like "burning" and "bloody" and "blood and ash!" (Stole that from wheel of time) and pretty much anything to do with fire. For example, "Blood and ash! I stub my burning toe on this bloody coffee table, agh ow this flaming pious chunk of char!" Pious to show its stupid, because the fallen believe worship of any kind is stupid, and they don't like god very much. Chunk of char/charcoal to show that it's functionally useless and serves no purpose and is a waste. The angels and the Fallen existed before the humans did so.they had time to create some semblance of culture.

I wonder what the watchers will do. I mean they were stationed on mt ararat for thousands of years they're gonna be speaking practically a different language. With all the inside jokes and the shared duty/purpose.. it's gonna be really specific. I'll probably have the ability to pay attention be a good thing, and distraction be a bad thing. Like "shit semjaza are you distracted?" At first it was an actual insult but then they realized they were literally doing nothing and they didn't need to pay attention anyway so it kinda became a joke. Still, things relating to attention/distraction are used as expletives left over from a time when it actually mattered. Like saying "punished again by inattention! I stubbed my toe on this coffee table!" Other swears will be specific to the one speaking. A blacksmith might say "this warped coffee table," a jeweler might call it impure or inclusive, an astronomer might call it cloudy.

Basically in order to determine what to use for swears I have to determine the values of the group, what they like and their taboos, and incorporate that in a way that doesn't sound silly. I'm writing this in a way where they speak an ancient language and I'm translating, so if they were speaking their hypothetical native language it would be normal, but this is English which is so heavily influenced by Christianity that anything besides that sounds stupid! Aghgh I hate globalization

Anyways thank you for coming to my ted talk. Can u tell I like anthropology

[lucifertheanalyzer]

This is an extension on this post because I have the energy for it. (shout out Folger's coffee and Clear American's Wild Cherry sparking water. I'm on the roll today lmao.) I'm being to be a little silly with the post at some points. I'm just scrolling though the subreddit and yapping at posts that hurt my soul.

The fandom's obsession with "teh haterz" 😡 and "antis" 🤬 is so crazy that they had to make a whole subreddit for their hatred of these people instead of just scrolling by or better yet, blocking and moving on like adults. For some reason a person disliking Hazbin is a OSHA violation to these people. I learnt as a young child that there's people out there who dislike the stuff I liked and made terms with the years ago.

First of all, ignore users who say/do crazy outlandish shit and stop comparing them with users who have valid criticisms. That AntiHazbinHotel subreddit is giving anti groups/stamps you would find on deviantART in the 2010s like this sub. Both groups need to go clean their rooms, wash their asses, and go look for a damn job. Why are you wasting time focusing on stuff you dislike instead of stuff that makes you happy?

I truly think there's a part of the fandom that was left behind because how did you get that from ShowToonz's tweet? We saw Val assaulted Angel ON SCREEN (sexually, mentality, and verbally) on screen while Vel's drug potion was seen on a build board and almost used but we never saw the effects in the same episode. Why are you are going uncover (mfs be thinking they the FBI) in a server over a cartoon show?

Calling Pink King 'a hater' is crazy work like did you watch any of his videos? Dude is pretty nice when it comes his issues with the Hellaverse. *INCORRECT BUZZER SOUND* none of this happened, stop making shit up. 🥀Alex is a grown man and Limus didn't harass anyone. She was the one getting harass to the point fans were sending her threats. WHY ARE WE CALLING A 19 A PEDO OVER HIS ART STYLE!? WHY IS THIS POST STILL UP?!

"You need to report to a JOB BRUH! Hop off the goat BirdyBoys, I hope when I make Hellaverse videos they will be in my comment section. "You need to report to a JOB BRUH! Hop off the goat BirdyBoys, I hope when I make Hellaverse videos they will be in my comment section. We also need to remove the term 'bad faith' from the fandom's mouth like right now.

I think I smell... racism. If you actually go outside and took a sociology class, everything is about race. America's society is built off of race and what color you are. I HATE when white people say this shit like be fucking for real.

Before I toss this subreddit away, let me yap about this bingo sheet. I'm going to go by each square left to right.

The only people who say that are Christians and are unaware that Viv was raised as one.

What? Who's hating furries on the big 2025? 🥀

Again what? My main issue with Sinner is how the show fails to make the audience care about the exterminations and that Sinners getting killed in mass every year. Most Sinners we saw in season one were Overlords that own souls of other sinners and do morality fucked up shit (The Vees, Alastor) or morality gray (Carmilla, Zestial). The only good morality Sinner we saw was Sir P who only did bad things to fit in with others.

This whole subreddit is immature like deadass, people are free to dislike a cartoon show. I also never a 'hater' claim to be mature and stoic, they are not cartoon characters why we describing them this way.

Not commenting on this because it's not my place.

Are we talking about the Slurs shirt or people using actually slurs? The slurs shirt is just tone deaf while if you call people slurs for being fans of Hazbin, you're a loser.

HA! I don't make me laugh dawg. The fandom and bigotry goes hand and hand like PB and J.

I seen people like Viv is a zoophile (which is dumb, that's all I'm going to say) but never the fans.

That's just ableism.

The fandom likes to send death and rape threats, gore images, and animal abuse videos to critics as well. If you do that shit to ANYONE, get professional help.

These people got jokes. They're acting like there's not a whole twitter account that has screenshots of stuff Viv said and done to people (allegedly).

That's true. The swearing feels unnatural and at sometimes unnecessary at certain points.

Okay, now this is getting stupid. 💀

I can't blame them. The fandom is full of horny weirdos and only want to talk about how a character gets them hard (poor Loona).

Too many of the character designs are either confusing (Bee) or straight up ass (Alastor).

What? To be honest, I wish Hazbin was edgier.

I don't like either but Al more 'likely' traits then the character is just a rapist and nothing else.

STRAIGHT FACTS!!!

The fandom are the fatphobic ones.

This bingo card was made a local white peorson!

Who? 1 million moms?

I know Hazbin like the back of my hand, people who criticize it have watched the show and actually was paying attention to the dialogue unlike the fans who go 'Look how sexy Alastor looks in this scene". I have seen critical posts that made me go 'that didn't happen/they got something wrong' though. This point is laughable because the fandom tends to watch critical reviews on Hazbin and label all of them as hate videos even though YouTubers that made those videos mentioned positive things and liking certain characters as well.

How is that a bad thing?? They like the songs and animation but they are "haters" so they cannot?? What's the logic here?

The person who made this just saw GalXE's thumbnail and didn't watch the video to hear his actual point. You can't boil someone's 14 minute video from a thumbnail.

This subreddit is just flat out sad. All the users in that sub need to focus on stuff that makes them happy instead because they can't act like adults and have an actual discussion about Hazbin and its issue like adults (same goes for the anti one which is even more sad).

[brazenautomaton]

The MASGD was founded in 2013 according to Wikipedia.

Starting a riot does not require the community's support. Parisians as a whole do not like rioting; there are a bunch of people who live there (or who don't live there according to some) who love rioting. Parisians can't stop the rioting by disapproving of it, the rioting does not require their cooperation, and you can't claim this means Parisians as a whole like rioting. The government in Paris could be doing things to prevent the riots from happening, but idk enough to know how effective they'd be or how tyrannical the attempt.

A bunch of Muslims violently hate Jews and the population of Muslim countries do hate Jews in a way much stronger than you can say Parisians love riots. This is bad! But as anyone can tell you, it's in no way exclusive to Muslims. The OP of this thread points out how progressives just kind of cough and shuffle their feet about antisemitism that isn't a way to attack their enemies in bad faith. The previous guy who globalized the intifada wasn't a Muslim, he was a SomethingAwful Communist. Progressives enforce the value of "racism is bad" by shaming people for doing things that look racist (a terrible way to do so but the way it's done), progressives are committed to letting Muslims get away with everything, progressives do not enforce this value against Muslims, antisemitism is more accepted and prevalent in Muslim communities because it stays closer to baseline from everywhere.

There are Muslims who aren't antisemitic, there are Muslim interfaith organizations, Muslims who speak out against antisemitism, something called a "global digital rally" that I ain't watching all of on the toilet but a cursory examination of random points showed was Muslims talking about how antisemitism was bad. The Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council was founded in 2016 and appears to fight both Islamophobia and antisemitism sincerely and not to divert attention from one to the other. The Council of Muslims Against Antisemitism is exactly what it sounds like though I don't know how long ago they were founded. (There are other Muslim interfaith groups like WCMIR but under the requirements of this discussion I don't KNOW they're not just for "accept us while we're the minority and then when we're the majority fuck you.") There are plenty of Muslims who adopt tolerant liberal secular values and are cool with funny religious hats for everyone, whether just from being a part of tolerant liberal secular democracy or being exceptional enough to adopt those values against the prevailing culture of the place they live. They just had to do it by going past the "assigned reading" because the primary force to try and get people to stop being bigoted in Western society has exempted them.

The Quran is hostile to non-Muslims and says a bunch of shit about how Allah will curse those who refuse the obvious truth it doesn't get around to provinv, but then turns around and goes "eh, Christians and Jews and Zoroastrians, that's like half credit, they follow Allah just in kind of the wrong way." The translation I have access to obviously doesn't accept "everyone has the right to their own religion and is equally valid," we don't expect it to, but is much kinder to Jews and Christians than to polytheists. I don't know if this translation was massaged to be more acceptable, but I really doubt it; it's clear it thinks there are good Jews and bad Jews and "good Jews" doesn't just mean "converts to Islam." Under Islamic law, Jews were second-class citizens, but so were Christians, Zoroastrians, and something called Sabians that nobody knows what they are nowadays. And oppression is terrible, of course, but a system of "okay so you are a second class citizen, here are the rights you have, here are the rights you don't have, here's the increased jizya tax you pay because you can't be in the military, sign and date right here" is at least a fair-ER way to go about it. Antisemitism was of course everywhere and spiked in various times for the same reasons it did everywhere else, a mostly insulated community that retains strong identity and loans money at interest makes people go fucking mental. But the Quran doesn't appear to single out Jews, and the acceptance of extreme and violent antisemitism as being a teaching of Islam appears to be a more recent development. But of course I'm not a Quranic scholar or Arab historian.

If you've called for a intifada, what happened in Colorado is what you were chanting for.

In case there was any question about that.

[boofindoopin]

I’m severely dehydrated. But, it’s NOT my fault that water tastes yucky.

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I’m not gonna come on here and lie to you and say: “Oh, having friends that are have different religious beliefs then you isn’t hard at all!”

The thing is, it can be very hard at times. It’s not hard most of the time, hell, majority of the time it doesn’t come up!

It’s and hard and uncomfortable when your friend is supposed to try and share the word of Jesus to you in an effort to convert you. It’s not a fun conversation to have to explain that you don’t like when they do that.

It’s hard and uncomfortable when your friend might notice you breaking rules of their religion, and having to know that they shouldn’t comment on it.

This post is no hate to my best friend. She’s Christian, and not all Christian’s are terrible, hateful people. Every religion has bad apples.

Moral of the story is, sometimes having friends of other religions can be a bit tricky. Just give the other grace.

[katsdynam1ght]

I like endeavor :3

me too! :D i think his character is so fascinating and i admire so much how he is trying to be a good person. is he flawed and has he done terrible things? absolutely. but he is working hard to improve.

sorry to go on a rant on such a small ask but!! idk it very much frustrates me how people respond to his character. one of the main grievances surrounding redemption arcs is the forgiveness component, often contained in these mentalities of “you don’t have to forgive your abuser” and “being forgiven doesn’t mean they’ve earned redemption” (which i have separate opinions on that i won’t get into here)

but the thing is like. endeavor does not require forgiveness to improve. the grievance is almost always that the person is forgiven without making any steps to improve, and that (sometimes) is valid, but like. it’s not applicable to his character. he is trying to improve even without being forgiven, which is what people on redemption arcs actually Should do

(and brief note that i am not making a distinction between redemption and atonement here because. i don’t know. i don’t think they are that different, at least in how i refer to them. good redemption is atonement imo.)

but anyway. yes, he did a lot of terrible things. yes, he sucked as a father for a really long time. but i don’t think he’s irredeemable. it would be immensely hypocritical of me not to redeem him when i’m willing to redeem even shigaraki, who honestly deserves a much worse punishment. (and before anyone tries to slap the victim card on him, too: i know. i know. it doesn’t change what he did. good redemption does not ignore a person’s crimes. he still has to pay for those regardless of what was done to him and regardless of why he did it. that’s what atonement is.)

if you ask me i think the people that disagree with this sentiment want to view the characters strictly as characters but i do have a tendency to humanize everyone. i like to ground myself in a universe and operate as though they are all actual people because i think it makes for a much more interesting analysis and writing process. i think this is why i tend to get a lot of comments on my characterization, because they aren’t flat entities to me—they are all dynamic and rounded and i love exploring their humanity. i’m a writer. that’s what i do.

[keshetchai]

Oh!!! To be clear I'm not actually annoyed *at* you, or really uh, in general. I'm still in *gestures at the thing comedically* mode rn. Like the humor of "but Christians say ___" and then blithely don't even recognize the irony is still my focus. Not even annoyed at you or anything! Haha. The secondary thing is just be being like "damn what would Christians even find interesting about the gospels if the drama of it all is totally removed?"

I was also very bad at being Catholic but I always got bored and just straight up would open the NT book and read directly from there. The thing I did inherit from my family is coming from a long line of people who read the books and want to argue 😂 my great-grandmother once argued a Jehovah's witness at her door into becoming a Catholic lmfao.

Anyways the final joke of this whollleeee post is that the person on r/religion in question called me passive aggressive in response to my response and I was VERY good and didn't say "can't believe I spent a whole comment explaining my problems with calling Jews passive, and then you turn around and call me passive aggressive."

They also got all "well sorrryyyy I don't know everything about Judaism."

It's like, babe, I don't expect that you know everything! BUT YOU STATED IT AS A FACT. And I was pointing out things you should know AS A CHRISTIAN!

Anyways yes CHAG SAMEACH TWINSIES!!

Today a Christian said that Jews have "historically been incredibly passive," when other people would have "been rebellious," and I said many things in response but I'm gonna be so forreal I think that's very funny when you consider how Christianity started and also literally....much of the Bible that they also reference.

[jacepi-time]

can people agree to acknowledge being hurt by religious experiences without being disrespectful to religious people like come on, there's so many Christians and Muslims suffering in impoverished countries and concentration camps and to villainize and disregard people's suffering existing because you had a bad experience is uncalled for. Not all christians are skinheads waving signs who wish people death and not all muslims are terrorists??? The same goes for other religions but I tend to see it a lot with these, calling them derogatory terms, thats just disrespectful?? Just because one group under this label treat people evil doesnt represent the people as a whole nor does it undermine someones suffering by their hands either. Like being hurt by horrible people is wrong and that crime should be called out. But it's just insane to me people will just not believe christianity is a real persecuted religion outside of the US but everyone seems to think it's a USA exclusive religion full of bigots or something even though there's a severe need with real christians suffering (like palestine, like china, like north korea, and so on)

[cupcakegalaxia]

When 20 years ago atheists said that the decrease in religion (*cough* Christianity *cough*) would lead to a more enlightened society are suddenly concerned about the slow moving ball of Western Society collapsing, authoritarianism rising and political unrest on a level the world has not seen for a very long time.

sigh

[uchiha-gaeshi]

I would never wish growing up in a hyper religious African house on my worst enemy. The cognitive dissonance is insane especially if you grow up in the West yet your family (and other African families around you) insist on clinging on to asinine “traditions” that are really just covers for abuse.

[prettyvintageafternoon]

I would also like to add that the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" is not a religious concept, but a secular one which does not align with Christian theology at all. The Christian religion itself literally revolves around the idea of original sin - Eve biting the apple Satan give her while in snake form and then spreading that sin to Adam by convincing him to do the same.

This story is significant because when God punished Adam & Eve by casting them out of the garden of Eden, the rest of humanity following behind them is born into sin - which they have to make up for by worshipping God.

This is literally Christianity 101.

Also, the presumption of innocence does not necessarily protect people - especially women, within religious system. Women were literally hanged for "witchcraft" because they were presumed guilty of it - not because witchcraft is real per se, but because hysteria ran rampant centuries ago and it was easy to get your neighbor convicted and killed if you wanted them gone for any reason (especially in an environment dictated by certain religious rules). And that's just one example.

It's also the fact that many Christian communities did not even consider abortion to be an issue until right-wingers galvanized them to be concerned about it after racial segregation in schools was dismantled.

It has also been the view of many Christians to segregate and dehumanize other people based on their race - a phenomenon reaching all the way back to the days of transatlantic slavery, which was legal for a long time even after the American Civil War. White christians literally felt that God gave them the right to own anyone who wasn't white. Also, this concept is something leaks into other religious belief systems, like Mormonism - which holds that dark skin is a sign of the mark of Cain or a sign of religious disobedience or negativity.

If all human life has 'equal value' and all babies are born "innocent," none of this history would have taken place at the hands of Christians.

People were literally birthed into suffering because Christians used their Bible as justification to do whatever they want to various groups of people. And the legal system at the time justified that (and still does, if you commit a crime).

So no, our legal system is not "based on Christian values." And that's a good thing.

Also, saying that humans are just "bags of meat without any rights" without discussing religion is whose fault exactly? Perhaps the people who want the entire legal system that everyone lives under to work based on their pick-and-choose interpretation of their religion? It is conservative Christians who want to tie the concept of having rights as a person to their interpretation of God, leaving everyone else as a pariah if they do not conform to that interpretation.

Also, if "law itself is abstract" then why is everyone required to obey your interpretation of it?

Also - let's say that souls exist, theoretically. How would the soul of an 'Unborn child' be harmed if a woman got an abortion?

It's not a physical thing so it wouldn't be "murdered" if a woman got an abortion procedure of any kind.

And - according to Christian belief, the soul of the fetus would be sent to heaven because it's "innocent" - which Christians believe is a good thing.

So, if unborn babies' souls exist, then isn't abortion ultimately positive?

[your-fave-is-christian]

I have a dumb question, and I really hope this doesn’t sound rude. What’s the logic for some of the characters? Like, if they’re the “hero” in their storyline, but they don’t seem to follow Biblical doctrine… does that even count? I’m sorry if that sounds snotty; I don’t mean to have an attitude.

No, you're fine!!

Short answer: I don't know, I'm not the one sending in the characters 😂

But really I would say there's not necessarily a consistent logic that they have to fit. That's part of the beauty of Christianity, isn't it? Anyone who repents and believes is welcome; it's not limited to any certain type of people. For the characters people are sending in here, I think there are a few categories. There are some that fit what you said, who already hold Christian morals and who one could easily headcanon as being Christian within the story. Sometimes people send in villains who they want to have redemption arcs and become Christian. Sometimes it's characters who are Christian; mostly it's characters people would like to see become Christian.

[gxlden-angels]

I don't know entirely how to explain this, but I think an important part of healing from religious trauma is learning about substance use disorders and shifting your views on drugs to neutral

[solsthiems]

Leftists get comfortable with religion and religious people. No shut up do it.

[vamptastic]

It takes less than five minutes to find, even from sources with a strong anti-Israel lean, that it is a matter of historical fact that the land that now is called Israel and Palestine used to be Roman Judea and was renamed to Syria Palestina after the Jewish exile occured roughly a century after Christ's death when it came under Ottoman control. Why the fuck do I still keep seeing people do a find and replace for Israel -> Palestine when talking about the time of Jesus, or claiming that Jesus was Palestinian? Who the hell goes around making confident assertions like that without so much as reading the Wikipedia article for Palestine? How am I seeing people who literally do not know that the Ottoman Empire existed devoting their time and energy into activism for a Middle Eastern country? I don't even want people to read a book, I want them to Google things!