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The curve of the earth makes a horizon
Martin/ Ben all fiction, future fic 2063? You are wrong about seeing a spelling mistake.
“When you kiss me I feel like it’s going to be like this forever. A better version of forever, that never gets boring.”
Martin looks through the lens of his camera, adjusting the shot by millimetres until the image was perfectly centred on nothing at all important.
There is a lot of rock. “Lots of fucking rock.” He says out loud. Looking around guilty for a second like someone might hear him. That someone might take notice of this old man standing on the lip of the Caynon taking photographs.
A late in life hobby, an excuse to go out into the wilderness. Careful, sanitised, wilderness. Retracing the holidays they took when they were younger.
His kids, their kids, insisting on regular check-ins, and scrutinising his itinerary. Turning into the hectoring nags they accused him of being when they were young. He takes a ridiculous deep satisfaction at this.
Martin knows that people can drown in sand. His kids, their kids, scold him for watching too many grim documentaries. Like he isn’t Nordic. Like every God his people ever had wasnt mostly a warning that the vagaries of fate will screw you over every time.
Kids raised in too much American sun. Playing in the pool with their dad. Martin the one with snacks and sunscreen. The desert lays waiting on the ground and in the air, and you can wake up with a throat like sandpaper and your lungs squeezing pain every time you draw breath.
There is a difference looking into a fjord, a satisfying cool promise. Ben cutting through the water like an otter. The summer of the midnight sun when Martin walked around every day with a ring in his pocket trying to find the perfect moment to propose.
Martin read that you, a younger you he supposes, even younger than his children now. You can see for nearly five kilometres before the curve - like a wine glass held with the stem between the index and middle finger, red wine swirling a little with the hand moving in time to the conversation full bloodied and alive on your tongue - of the earth makes a horizon.
That is a long way to see, longer if it is both behind and ahead of you. Martin turns away from the agonised mouth of the Grand Canyon. It looks, he’s pleased, exactly like he remembers. Exactly like yesterday. Exactly like last week. Exactly like forty years ago.
When they were young and Martin would insist they had to do something utterly different, and then park up on a beach for Ben.
The first time they saw the Victoria Falls and all that water was just too much to process and he and Ben had gone back to the lodge, barely speaking to each other the whole way home, and fucked all night. Hands rolling over each other like white water, faster and faster and dissolving into steam.
How they had missed two days of the safari and could have just stayed in London and fucked in their own bed. How Ben had looked so wide eyed and innoncent and said “a lot of fucking zebras man” whenever people asked about their trip.
He didn’t understand The Falls then, didn’t understand canyons, terrified by their immensity. He needed the thin steel of Ben behind him to back him up. Needed Ben’s breath in his ear and his hands on his hips. Now he gets it. The extent of time, the patience of waiting to cut through the last few layers of rock to the soft belly of the world underneath. Not blooming and fading, patient and enduring.
Love as a dream that someone else had last night. Martin woke up early, still cool enough to walk up to the edge here. Pretty soon the stones will be spiky with heat. He’s here under a sensible beige hat, his face shaded. Trousers with too many pockets and his kids, their kids, unread messages on his phone. An expensive gold watch that he rescued from Ben’s wrist.
He rests his hands on the metal guardrail that will soon be too hot to touch. The phantom of tattooed fingers that used to slide over his rest just outside his vision.
Eventually, the sludge left of the Colorado River still wading through the bottom of the Canyon will cut right through to the other side of the earth. This is how long it would have taken Ben and the boys to dig a hole to China, like they tried to years ago.
Ben’s face so serious, and their faces so intent. Blurred in his memory to little shovels moving as sand was flung around, all their shoulders getting red. The next morning the tide had smoothed the beach flat and they made sandcastles, Martin balancing out the sides where they were uneven, and Ben decorating them with shells. The careful little hands patting sand into place now sending him daily messages reminding him to hydrate properly in the heat.
He couldn’t have coped with that dark plodding river so many miles below his feet alone when he was young. Would have been terrified with the idea of running out of time. So much to achieve, so few winters left.
It is almost dark by the time Martin pulls into the small town he’s been using as a home base. It’s almost time to move on, he can feel it. Too long in the dust, and he’s longing for a damp that can settle in his body and anchor his brittle bones down. But he keeps driving around these small towns with their ordered streets filling in a checkerboard on the map. First street the thickest black line through the centre of the town, cutting second street west off and making it second street east, making order of the desert.
He came here, decades ago, with Ben. They were new to each other then and imagined, he imagined, you could make order by planning. But they didn’t stick to the route, they went off the map. Kept the secrets though, the ones they whispered, the ones they thought.
That trip that was carefully named many things, a vacation, a break, a road trip. A get away. Before the beach. Neither of them willing to admit out loud yet that it was a dress rehearsal for their possible future.
The two of them. A car. Two boys at play, all the weight of London sanded off. When he finally saw the Canyon he understood their trip. The first time he had gone to the desert he was a child and time has wounded his face to grooves but he’s still a boy hopelessly in love. Tripping over his tongue and Ben’s trying to explain what he wanted their future to be.
In his dreams he is young. And Ben is there. Ben drives and Martin has just woken up, woozy and not entirely sober after sleeping in a moving car. And he can smell Ben’s sweat on him, feel the salt and skin itching under his fingernails. Ben isn’t talking, just driving through the black, humming in tune with the white lines, dots and dashes, that appear in the headlights.
A truck appears from nowhere and breaks the spell, and Ben spills out a flood of words and love that chip the first stone face of the canyon away.
He’s told his kids, their kids, he’s travelling around. But he’s never far from a canyon. Every day when he comes back from walking the scrub looking for inconsequential images he can send back - nothing with bones picked clean in the sun, nothing with snakes, nothing with vultures posed on power lines like cartoons - he reminds himself it’s time to go soon.
Propped against the lamp is the last picture he took of Ben, when Ben was only just there. It’s in the sun all day and it’s faded almost away. And Martin holds to the idea for seconds every morning that replacing the past is as possible as replacing a photograph. That last picture that he took as much with his mind as his camera, swept years and travel from Ben’s body. Martin can only see his eyes and the gleam they held.
The smooth ordered bands of his skin with the carefully shaved beard that Martin would run his fingers over. Even now he runs his fingers over the image, Like peeling a sun burnt layer of skin off. The same way he’s brushed frost from a window, cleaned dust from a shelf, and underneath, not another layer, but the gleam of the glass and wood, the round of bones.
He knows that he can’t walk to the edge too many more mornings. That their kids are waiting, messages need to be answered, and the garden they planted needs watering. That no matter how far into the horizon he looks he won’t find that flung apart longing that they left here years and years ago. The earth curves, closes off behind you, no matter how desperately you look back.
#I used to write about grief a lot#and I used to write a lot of future fics#fic#I quite like the last couple of lines#I used to hear a random fact#like how far you could see in the distance and write a story about that fact#I never fact check
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wait i just realized... the mastersword isnt even important enough to warrant zelda doing to such extreme lengths to repair it bc its NOT EVEN REQUIRED FOR DEFEATING GANONDORF
idk about you but the mastersword being not just this weak after all this but also not even required is like ... hurting the whole plot SO bad for all that zelda knew she was basically killing herself by doing the dragon thing ONLY for the mastersword, which isnt even needed to reach the end why do the dragon thing at all??? she could have put it in some other divine place for it to recover (she knew where the springs are, she knew where the krog forest is, heck she even knew where the forgotten temple is BC THEY WERE ALL THERE* and im not going to belive any of them came into existence afterwards), in botw it took 'only' a 100 years to regenerate the damage it took in botws past which, while not as extreme as in totk, was pretty bad! yeah it gets outright broken in totk but like ... really? far over 10 000 years to recover it? through ZELDA? one of the most divine being IN THE FORM of one of the most divine beings aside from the very gods themselves?? whats the use of it being able to regernate if it takes THAT long?? feels easier to forge a new one for that matter?? and the excuse that "it needed to be able to resist miasma" is like .. why tho? yeah ok fine i could do the entire bossfight with JUST the mastersword, but again, its not required! i can do it with anything else!! and its doesnt cleanse miasma either, like the sword did in tp when you could do away the twilight stuff when it got the super glow stuff so its really like ... she did that JUST for the sword? really? the fact that her becoming a dragon is the way to get her back into her time isnt something she could have known and it working out like that makes it feel like a massive fail of the writers bc it makes it feel less like an actual decision she made for good reason and more bc its a decision the writers made bc the writers already knew where it would end, the writers knew shed be turned back in the end no problem so they had her do the dragon thing despite it being pretty senseless from her perspective
(wouldnt it have felt more in character and logical to put the mastersword somwhere safe where it can recover over all those centuries and search for a way to return to her time herself? like in these two games ZELDA feels like the more important thing that the sword, -zeldas prone to sacrifice herself for other- WHY! its better for everyone if you are alive rather than dead! you got to this time by yourself and also somehow not jsut shifted the time but also PLACE bc you sure as hell didnt appear in a cavern in the middle of the land, you have wielded incredible magic before and are a researcher, surely theres some way for you to at least TRY to return on your own?? how cool would it have been to find little markers and spots where clearly she has left you some sort of message, maybe like a way for you to do something that helps her in the past, USE THE WEIRD ASS TIME BUBBLES FROM THE TUTORIAL AGAIN!! send back something she needs to return! go and talk with impa and purah to determine what shes trying to tell you, help her along the way and in the end she makes her triumphant return, having grown and learned with what she did instead of regressing her chaarcter to the big eyed maiden that you get as a reward at the end through unsatisfying bs reasons and hurray she doesnt even remember, perfect little fairytale of no consequences wahoo- im salty about this let me be salty-)
you can absolutely combine a free to explore open world with good story without restricting it by much, like locking the bossfight behind aquiring the mastersword doesnt feel like that big of a change and its not making it a whole lot more linear, most people do it anyway right?
(also a thing im doing in my rewrite of it is locking certain things for some parts, it just makes sense if you are trying to tell a story, but its pretty clear now they werent trying to do that, just throw you into a box of virtual toys, and i think thats just sad)
*yeah actually whats up with the sonau/rauru putting their little nuclear super weapon storage room inTO THE ANCIENT RELICT OF THE FORGOTTEN PAST TEMPLE BEHIND THE BIGGEST STATUE OF HYLIA IN EXISTENCE?? you cant tell me all those ancient ruins (springs, forgotten temple) were made AFTER all of the shitshow that went down in totks past; putting it behind that statue? building it into there feels incredibly disrespectful, maybe it makes more sense if you just see it as the devs wanting to put somethign new there, but if you consider it in universe its just ??? also HOW is any of it in such a good shape??, it looks like they buried sonia there a year ago, the structures look like they just came out of a 3d printer despite supposedly being older than their recorded history??
on that note ... how does the room with the order and location of zeldas tears make sense .. are you telling me someone of the past ran around after dragon zelda recording where her fucking tears went down and what markings it made on the ground and then built a room next to the nuclear weapon storage room with the laughably unceremonial grave of the fucking queen just to put all that into statue form? also none of the geographical things changed in ALL that time?? the castle is drawn on there too so i guess that was super fresh then since it "was built above ganondorf as a symbol of royal blahbla" at least in botw you had the photos on your SHIEKAH stone to recover them once you found the place they were taken in, it felt so organically integrated ..
#ganondoodles talks#zelda#totk#ganondoodles rants#this game drives me nuts (derogatory)#random ramblings ramble#the fact that all the sonau stuff is basically unscathed through all that time is like#that looks less ancient than the shiekah stuff#actually kinda boring#like unpainted blocks of toys#it just all doesnt fit together in my eyes#its gonna bother me forever#you had it all and didnt do anything with it#i love botws world#it had so much potential#never gonna get over the lost potential of it all#this could have been so epic#whenever i hear the trailer music my heart hurts bc i just have to imagine what it would be like#what i thought it was gonna be given the fantastic music#still dream of painting like a trailer for my totk rewrite using the trailer music#but god that aint doable#and would be nuked ofthe internet in an instant lol
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i think its evil and pointless that they split wicked into two movies and the worst part about it is that the best songs are in act two so the first movie wont even have the bangers
#just remembered that im going to have to wait to hear no good deed; feeling inconsolable#i think its ridiculous that theyre splitting up the movies when its literally based on a 2 hour stage show#i just looked it up and the first movie is over 2 and a half hours????? what the fuck are they putting in there#thats longer than the entire stage show#so theyre adding a ton of random shit to stretch out the time or???#because there is not a single part of the show that i think is rushed tbh. it does exactly what it needs to do in the time that it uses#im still hopeful for it but the fact that they split it into two movies has made me bitter this entire time#so im not as happy about it as i wish i was#just the fact that theyre making it two movies just as a cash grab pisses me off#also even though ppl have been asking for a wicked movie for literal decades. i dont think itll be as good as a movie#its more suited to a stage show and it wont be as impactful when its on a screen#but maybe im wrong!#im excited to see it. maybe itll be good#maybe the extra 3 hours added to the show will be a doomed yuri gelphie subplot
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‘gay retelling of a classic!’ ‘feminist sapphic twist on this greek myth!’ why don’t you write a better book than that. i think we deserve better books than that
#just had ‘jane austen’s mansfield park reimagined as a sapphic murder mystery’ advertised 2 me on IG. and i just think you should write a#better book than that. if you want to write a ‘sapphic murder mystery’ then write it. the fact that you have to lean on existing classics#and advertise yours as a ‘retelling’ or a ‘twist’ or a ‘reimagining’ suggests to me that you are not a very good writer. sorry this is very#hatery but i believe it…just write a new book. a better book. what is the point of writing a gay version of wuthering heights other than it#solves your problem of not being able to come up with a plot because you are not a very good writer. i dont know. i suppose there is space#for anything and should be space for all sorts in the publishing industry but also i hear sapphic murder mystery mansfield park and i think#that’s probably not a very good book. idk. there is excellent queer and feminist original fiction out there without the need to take#existing literature at random and use that as a crutch for some reason…#(ridi's) bigmouth strikes again
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shout out to one of the guys on r*blox i was beefing with and said "thats disgusting youre taking stuff out of context in the bi/ble" to me saying my favorite part of the bible is archa.ngel gab.riel kissing me directly on the mouth
#what does this mean#he was this very christian aussie guy that joined into the convo as i was trying to scare some transphobic guy in the call with saying#random stuff about the bible BUT he didnt know the context so WHAT was he talking about#i have it clipped i might show it maybe its so silly#trans/homophobes using the bible to be an ass to me only to regret it because the moment i hear that word i go insane#HEY DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FACTS ABOUT ARCHANG
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I know that we're so used to having everything handed to us immediately these days but it does drive me crazy how people cannot wait for confirmed reports on serious things- like the information will come eventually but no one can sit and wait until shit is confirmed, so they just start spreading any rumour they see and it's like.... you're not helping. You're only muddying the waters. When it's something serious, it's especially not helpful. What is so difficult about not spreading unconfirmed rumours? what is so difficult about actually waiting to find out specifics? Jumping to action isn't always helpful, sometimes inaction until further notice is better.
#It's like the gamerfication of everything like its all content and you want to make posts and Win at being the first to know#Or the first to decry or support and it's so fuckin weird#Also I get it I have been there where you hear about a news story or something and you're intrigued and want to find out what's going on#Like its human nature I don't fault that but again it's just not helpful to share any/all random people saying any random thing as fact#Also the thing where people will be like X hasn't commented on (insert situation here) so therefore they support it and are bad !!#Like ?????#I wish more people would go i don't know this situation I can't help by sharing baseless reports I will simply wait until we know more#Happened with that Sydney stabbing a little while back and it was very like Well how was saying all this random unconfirmed shit useful
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WORK NIGHTMARE INCREASED
NIGHTMARE! NIGHTMARE!
One of my much older cousins works at my job now?? Has been there for months?? Works in the building right next to mine but I never saw her till today??
anyway. I don’t know who told her or HOW she even knows this but she was like “So you’re like gay right? Or is it something else?” We. Are in public. My coworker walked by just a few minutes later. SHE COULD HAVE HEARD THAT. HELLO? SELF AWARENESS? HELLO??
HOW DID YOU EVEN KNOW THAT. I NEVER TALK ABOUT IT. I don’t think it’s obvious either. If it was obvious I think women would be more friendly with me
I did not know what to do man I just kinda nervously laughed and told her I don’t like to talk about it and then she’s like “I’m open minded” Yeah ok. Anyway I just was like “we can talk about that some other time” because wtf
She asked so many questions. Interrogated me.
Now she knows that’s where I walk through and there’s no other way for me to go to avoid her.
#I was trying to walk past her so fast but she recognized me anyways fuck my life man#how do I put this nicely. uh. the family. does not like her#in fact we used to rent an apartment she owned and she kicked us out to charge someone else more :#she delayed me getting home by 30 mins. by not shutting tf up#my panic is less about random people hearing it#but now I’m like. oh god my coworker walked past us. who knows what she heard#I live in trump territory bro. people already don’t like me. I don’t need your loud mouth saying stuff like that#it had to have been my mom. my dad would not talk to this lady she’s not even related#but my mom doesn’t like her either so?? how the fuck.#or maybe my mom is talking shit with someone else and then they told her#cause the gay part is like. ok well anyone in the family would maybe realize hey you’ve never had a girlfriend lol#but the ‘or is it something else’ Ok Where Did you get that from#cause that part my mom won’t even acknowledge#SCARY. SCARY.
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SENZ I KNOW YOU’LL PROBABLY NEVER SEE THIS AND I WILL NEVER HAVE THE BALLS TO POST THIS SOMEWHERE UOU CAN SEE BUT LISTEN TO ME !!!!!!!!!! PEOPLE LOVE YOUR CHARACTER, ALL OF HIS FLAWS ARE WHAT MAKES HIS CHARACTER SO GREAT IT ISNT A HINDRANCE AT ALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOPIXEL IS HARSH SOMETIMES AND MOST OF THE THINGS DONE TO LINK AFFECTED YOU TOO AND THATS OKAY!!!! YOURE FINDING YOUR GROUP!! YOURE FINDING YOUR MOTIVATION !!
SHAKES HOU SHAKES YOU SHAKES YOU PLEASE HEAR ME DUDE YOU ARE DOING SO FUCKING WELL FOR KNOWING ABSOLUTELY NO ONE GOING INTO THE CITY !!!!! YOURE DOING SO GREAT AND PEOPLE LOVE YOUR CHARACTER !!!!!! YOU HAVE DONE YOUR BEST WITH WHAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU, AND YOURE EATING THAT SHIT UP !!!!! KEEP GOING DUDE !!!!!
#PLEASE HEAR ME DUDE (I scream on the only social platform he has never used)#THE FACT THAT JAN WAS IN HIS SAME SITUATION BUT GOT WHAT SHE NEEDED AND LINK WAS LEFT ON HIS OWN MAKES MY HEART BREAK :(#AND THE FACT THAT THEY WERE LITERALLY SIDE BY SIDE THRU IT ONLY FOR LINK TO GET ABANDONED:(((( DUDE :(((#I’m really really hoping senz brings someone outside of the city or finds someone that he knows :(#it makes my heart break seeing all these ppl having a genuinely good rp experience#bc they got the help they needed !!! but link/senz didn’t :(#bro that shit makes me wanna cry a little#it reminds me of little me trying out dnd with random groups not knowing anyone. it’s really struck a chord in me :(#it’s all just unfortunate happenstance :(#senz#bou snorts
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he is not amused.....
#barry steakfries#jetpack joyride#sketch#barry after you call him barreth for the 50th time and he's past the point of embarrassment and is now just grumpy about it#i'm in love with the fact his name's comically long and ridiculous#fuckin barreth mcsteakington friesenhausen.#one of the characters in AOZ has a ridiculous name as well (miss rubenstein sexypants) so i'm happy they kept that going in the vlog#i feel like he dreads going to family gatherings specifically because of that name because it's embarrassing#and he just has to put up with it for a night and a half#also i like to think craig would lightly tease him about it if he found out what his whole name is#he'd think it's actually kind of a cute name but also make fun of barry for it because it's funny seeing him get embarrassed#also speaking of that episode of the vlog: as an queenslander barry's mum is incredibly accurate to how quite a few people here are like#like her story about her friend getting hit by a bus after using the internet feels like something i'd hear a weird aunt or neighbour say#i think most of halfbrick's fans aren't australian so i find it really funny when people call barry british or get confused at certain term#and i have seen some people call barry british before and i feel this mixture of amusement and confusion about it#because 1. that's just really funny that people tend to immediately assume that pronouncing stuff like tomato as “tomahhto” = british#but also 2. have you even heard a british person. i assure you they often don't sound like us australians#especially with the many different variations in their accents depending on what area they come from#anyway.... barry grumpy :3#i like how i always end up going on long tangents in the tags about random loosely related shit#it's the autism brain going off
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Speaking of useless trivia (something I have an overabundance of): did you know Zach Galifianakis's uncle nearly became a US Senator? It's true. Nick Galifianakis was a congressman from North Carolina in the 60s who ran for Senator of North Carolina in 1972. He lost to infamous rascist and extreme conservative Jesse Helms, a man known for hating gays and black people. Jesse Helms hated the civil rights act, for God's sakes! He was possibly even more conservative than Ronald Reagan! He was awful! But clearly North Carolininians in the 1970s liked him. They reelected him over Nick Galifianakis fairly handily. But that's an interesting story, isn't it? Not something I would have known if not for my current (I think it's still currently ongoing) political hyperfixation. Here's a link to show how I learned all this:
#wikipedia#random info#politics#us politics#zach galifianakis#I know Zach Galifianakis for many things#like for example#bob's burgers#But this is a really interesting fact isn't it?#sharing information#I hear Zach Galifianakis now lives part of the year here in Canada#So that's interesting too
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now that luke black knows about fr*nchified sameaux mi sais spavas i am complete. i <12 that so much
#random thoughts#<12. good! <13. bad!#also. ï is in fact a fr*nch letter!! like. i can't use any examples because the only one i can think of is. well. yeah#OH WAIT!!!!!! ouïr. to hear. because l'ouïe is hearing! yeah! never mind#h. yippee
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#so ive been in contact w a clinic for a specific treatment plan&ive been getting paperwork together for this shit for like 3wks+#&i just got a call about it-- a call ive been waiting for since last week-- only for them to tell me that#ill probably need to be hospitalized for the full extent of the treatment. lmao.#as if this in&of itself was not enough to send me full-on spiraling they let know that this will be totally out of pocket#(which i guess im more or less used to hearing at this point in my life lmao)#&also that i POPPED FOR AMPHETAMINES?#so i immediately start fucking freaking out&the person im talking to is trying to calm me down like#'its okay! youre not in trouble!'#&honest to god if i had been in person i wouldve smacked someone lmao.#i dont give a fuck what you fucking ppl think of me. ive been fighting for solid communication for this entire process#there isnt any reason i should feel inclined to respect any of you bitches enough to give a fuck about your opinion.#even if i didnt have my personal history or occupational hazard list IT WOULD BE CONCERNING TO FIND OUT I HAVE RANDOM DRUGS#IN MY SYSTEM THAT I WAS UNAWARE OF. &frankly that SHOULD be fucking obvious if i am panicking at all.#seeing as a did several different drug tests i dont see how any of it would come as a fucking surprise.#... then she realized that my blood test was negative&my piss test was 'presumptively positive'#&was like that bc of one of my other medications.#im not. THRILLED. that this was overlooked for a large variety of reasons lmao#but the fact that the med evals only last two weeks tops the list bc if i need to retest bc of this shit-- something that wont even#give them a different test result as i am still taking the same medication fucking daily as i have been for over a year now--#i will need to do EVERYTHING again. for no reason. DEFINITELY for no reason caused by me.#all so they can tell me that they lied to me initially&they wont treat me unless i let them hospitalize me lmao.#im going to go fucking rabid. i Do Not want to be hospitalized. lmao.
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I already know I’m autistic but if I didn’t already then the fact that I noticed the difference in mixing between the version I’m used to of “White & Nerdy” and the Dolby master on apple music wouldve for sure tipped me off
#i was like HEY why are his vocals so muffled and why is the bass so loud and vibratey#so I found a version on a greatest hits comp to compare and there was a hell of a difference#when the Fancy Audio Company™️ just makes a good song worse…#before you ask: no I don’t have a life#Just Neurodivergent Things™️✨✨✨#I’m especially neurospicy with sounds and it took me ages to NOTICE#my boyfriend has literally always noticed that in me and it took me until Recently to actually notice how deep it goes#the fact that MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY IS JUST MUSIC I LIKE DIDNT EVEN TIP ME OFF#NOT EVEN THE FACT THAT I USED TO CONSTANTLY BITCH ABOUT HEARING MUSIC I DIDNT LIKE#NOT EVEN THE ENDLESS FIGHTS WITH MY MOTHER OVER CONTROL OF THE RADIO#NOT EVEN THE FACT THAT I LIKE TO SING BUT I CANNOT STAND HEARING OTHER PEOPLE SING AT RANDOM OR SING ALONG TO STUFF#NOT ONCE DID I THINK HEY WAIT A MINUTE MAYBE MY AUDIO PROCESSING SYSTEM IS A LITTLE FUNKY
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chinese room 2
So there’s this guy, right? He sits in a room by himself, with a computer and a keyboard full of Chinese characters. He doesn’t know Chinese, though, in fact he doesn’t even realise that Chinese is a language. He just thinks it’s a bunch of odd symbols. Anyway, the computer prints out a paragraph of Chinese, and he thinks, whoa, cool shapes. And then a message is displayed on the computer monitor: which character comes next?
This guy has no idea how the hell he’s meant to know that, so he just presses a random character on the keyboard. And then the computer goes BZZZT, wrong! The correct character was THIS one, and it flashes a character on the screen. And the guy thinks, augh, dammit! I hope I get it right next time. And sure enough, computer prints out another paragraph of Chinese, and then it asks the guy, what comes next?
He guesses again, and he gets it wrong again, and he goes augh again, and this carries on for a while. But eventually, he presses the button and it goes DING! You got it right this time! And he is so happy, you have no idea. This is the best day of his life. He is going to do everything in his power to make that machine go DING again. So he starts paying attention. He looks at the paragraph of Chinese printed out by the machine, and cross-compares it against all the other paragraphs he’s gotten. And, recall, this guy doesn’t even know that this is a language, it’s just a sequence of weird symbols to him. But it’s a sequence that forms patterns. He notices that if a particular symbol is displayed, then the next symbol is more likely to be this one. He notices some symbols are more common in general. Bit by bit, he starts to draw statistical inferences about the symbols, he analyses the printouts every way he can, he writes extensive notes to himself on how to recognise the patterns.
Over time, his guesses begin to get more and more accurate. He hears those lovely DING sounds that indicate his prediction was correct more and more often, and he manages to use that to condition his instincts better and better, picking up on cues consciously and subconsciously to get better and better at pressing the right button on the keyboard. Eventually, his accuracy is like 70% or something -- pretty damn good for a guy who doesn’t even know Chinese is a language.
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One day, something odd happens.
He gets a printout, the machine asks what character comes next, and he presses a button on the keyboard and-- silence. No sound at all. Instead, the machine prints out the exact same sequence again, but with one small change. The character he input on the keyboard has been added to the end of the sequence.
Which character comes next?
This weirds the guy out, but he thinks, well. This is clearly a test of my prediction abilities. So I’m not going to treat this printout any differently to any other printout made by the machine -- shit, I’ll pretend that last printout I got? Never even happened. I’m just going to keep acting like this is a normal day on the job, and I’m going to predict the next symbol in this sequence as if it was one of the thousands of printouts I’ve seen before. And that’s what he does! He presses what symbol comes next, and then another printout comes out with that symbol added to the end, and then he presses what he thinks will be the next symbol in that sequence. And then, eventually, he thinks, “hm. I don’t think there’s any symbol after this one. I think this is the end of the sequence.” And so he presses the “END” button on his keyboard, and sits back, satisfied.
Unbeknownst to him, the sequence of characters he input wasn’t just some meaningless string of symbols. See, the printouts he was getting, they were all always grammatically correct Chinese. And that first printout he’d gotten that day in particular? It was a question: “How do I open a door.” The string of characters he had just input, what he had determined to be the most likely string of symbols to come next, formed a comprehensible response that read, “You turn the handle and push”.
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One day you decide to visit this guy’s office. You’ve heard he’s learning Chinese, and for whatever reason you decide to test his progress. So you ask him, “Hey, which character means dog?”
He looks at you like you’ve got two heads. You may as well have asked him which of his shoes means “dog”, or which of the hairs on the back of his arm. There’s no connection in his mind at all between language and his little symbol prediction game, indeed, he thinks of it as an advanced form of mathematics rather than anything to do with linguistics. He hadn’t even conceived of the idea that what he was doing could be considered a kind of communication any more than algebra is. He says to you, “Buddy, they’re just funny symbols. No need to get all philosophical about it.”
Suddenly, another printout comes out of the machine. He stares at it, puzzles over it, but you can tell he doesn’t know what it says. You do, though. You’re fluent in the language. You can see that it says the words, “Do you actually speak Chinese, or are you just a guy in a room doing statistics and shit?”
The guy leans over to you, and says confidently, “I know it looks like a jumble of completely random characters. But it’s actually a very sophisticated mathematical sequence,” and then he presses a button on the keyboard. And another, and another, and another, and slowly but surely he composes a sequence of characters that, unbeknownst to him, reads “Yes, I know Chinese fluently! If I didn’t I would not be able to speak with you.”
That is how ChatGPT works.
#txt#ai shit#it’s not a perfect analogy#chatgpt doesn't think the symbols have no meaning#rather it doesn't think at all#all it does is the maths#but still#effortpost
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wait i just remembered a weird dream i had last night. i was going through some kind of stack of applications or profiles or something. it was something teacher-related. all the kids were from some kind of mormon group that i was... doing this work for? idk IDK the important thing was the kids were part of the church of jesus christ and latter-day saints and i was reviewing their information for data purposes. the information was filled out by the kids and one of the sections was simply "ethnicity"—specifically ethnicity and not race. because ethnicity is something that can actually be a meaningful part of your identity, and race is a concept created by white supremacy, and no one loves pointing that out more than white people, right? i'm white myself. i think white people would much rather say "oh i'm irish" "i'm german" "i'm italian" because it signifies their family comes from something and somewhere. as soon as we say "i'm white" it denotes nothing but a privileged status we only have because of colonialism and white supremacy. but even that privileged status doesn't necessarily mean much by itself because we can be marginalized in other ways, which white people also like to point out when it can apply to themselves. but then again some white people really don't have any connection to the culture(s) of their ancestors and feel they have no claim upon anything better than being a white american, which is more the fault of the pressure of immigrants to assimilate than it is most people's fault as individuals.
but. this is a long preamble. i was going through these mormon kids' information. mormons are stereotypically white, right? there's a lot of white people. i've never been part of the mormon church so i don't feel like i can elaborate on it more than that. i know bc of the work of missionary's they're not all exclusively white but the origins of mormonism are certainly white and american. and on the ethnicity question, like, almost every single one of these mormon kids said "white and poor" "poor white" "underprivileged white". that kind of thing. i remember going through it and i was like "theres no way all these kids are that poor. where are they getting this identification from as an ethnicity"
#this was just a dream i dont mean to assign any more meaning to it than that#but that is funny#a lot of white ppl do like to point out how 'poor' they grew up even if they were in fact middle-class#(i am a white person who grew up middle-class... we struggled sometimes but you won't find me using that to deflect anything from the fact#that generally i was comfortably stationed in middle-class... in an era where the middle class as a whole suffered due2 the great recession#idk what that dream really says. but you do hear that a lot!#white isn't an ethnicity but it's the most some ppl have. poor however. is just not an ethnicity lol#tales from diana#idk why all these kids were mormons either. you dont need to go to utah to find towns that are 90 percent white#sorry. to any... mormons?#not really but you didn't need to get involved in this it was just my random dream
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my dads dog who’s like. old as shit maybe a chihuahua? tiny to be clear loves to get in barking matches with the german shepherd next door that for said barking matches has to jump like 5-6 feet to see her over our walls he would literally eat you dumbass
#personal#it makes me irrationally annoyed bc like#she’s a dog she’s gonna do dog activities#but it just reminds me of how my dad had her outside without a leash#and then those dog owners had HIM outside without a leash#and he ran for my dads dog like crazy so my dad who loved her more than anything picks her ups and tried leaving#but i guess tripped and hit my moms car and lost a bunch of his teeth#he hid it way too long for us to help after the fact but whenever i hear them barking it reminds me of that and makes me upset#tip about parental death it’s the random things that get you#this isn’t random i don’t want to get into the random that turns extremely morbid cause it is morbid#it’s probably no worse than anything else but it stings worse#the shit show with the cremation place taking a while that’s when my thoughts got real morbid#but it’s done he’s home and his dog is still picking fights with that other dog
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