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blueskittlesart · 7 months ago
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*sigh* thoughts on Nintendo's botw/totk timeline shenanigans and tomfoolery?
tbh. my maybe-unpopular opinion is that the timeline is only important when a game's place on the timeline seriously informs the way their narrative progresses. the problem is that before botw we almost NEVER got games where it didn't matter. it matters for skyward sword because it's the beginning, and it matters for tp/ww/alttp (and their respective sequels) because the choices the hero of time makes explicitly inform the narrative of those games in one way or another. it matters which timeline we're in for those games because these cycles we're seeing are close enough to oot's cycle that they're still feeling the effects of his choices. botw, however, takes place at minimum 10 thousand years after oot, so its place on the timeline actually functionally means nothing. botw is completely divorced from the hero of time & his story, so what he does is a nonissue in the context of botw link and zelda's story. thus, which timeline botw happens in is a nonissue. honestly I kind of liked the idea that it happened in all of them. i think there's a cool idea of inevitability that can be played with there. but the point is that the timeline exists to enhance and fill in the lore of games that need it, and botw/totk don't really need it because the devs finally realized they could make a game without the hero of time in it.
#i really do have a love-hate relationship with this timeline#because it's FASCINATING lore. genuinely. and i think it carries over the themes of certain games REALLY well#but i also think it's indicative of a trend in loz's writing that has REALLY annoyed me for a long time#which is this intense need to cling to oot#and on a certain level i get it. that was your most successful game probably ever. and it was an AMAZING game.#and i think there's definitely some corporate profit maximization tied up in this too--oot was an insane commercial success therefore you'r#not allowed to make new games we need you to just remake oot forever and ever#and that really annoys me because it makes certain games feel disjointed at best and barely-coherent at worst.#i think the best zelda games on the market are the ones where the devs were allowed to really push what they were working with#oot. majora. botw. hell i'd even put minish cap in there#these are games that don't quite follow what was the standard zelda gameplay at their time of release. they were experimental in some way#whether that be with graphics or puzzle mechanics or open-world or the gameplay premise in its entirety. there's something NEW there#and because the devs of those games were given that level of freedom the gameplay really enforces the narrative. everything feels complete#and designed to work together. as opposed to gameplay that feels disjointed or fights against story beats. you know??#so I think that the willingness to allow botw and totk to exist independently from the timeline is good at the very least from a developmen#standpoint because it implies a willingness to. stop making shitty oot remakes and let developers do something interesting.#and yes i do very much fear that the next 20 years of zelda will be shitty BOTW remakes now#in which botw link appears and undergoes the most insane character assassination youve ever seen in your life#but im trying to be optimistic here. if botw/totk can exist outside the timeline then we may no longer be stuck in the remake death loop#and i'm taking eow as a good sign (so far) that we're out of the death loop!! because that game looks NOTHING like botw or oot.#fingers crossed!!#anyway sorry for the game dev rant but tldr timeline good except when it's bad#asks#zelda analysis
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smilesrobotlover · 2 years ago
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Small Revali’s for anyone who needs it. This guy has me in a chokehold
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spacekatdet · 3 months ago
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One of my main loves is Legend of Zelda, I've gone so far as to rebuild the botw world for an au I made. Remaking zoras how I like them. So awhile ago I put Grian and Scar in that world in place of Link and Sidon Bluie suggested Scar be blue which works really well to make his green eyes pop I didn't take this further but if others want to pick it up please make sure to tag me I'd love to see!
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chibi-haifish · 6 months ago
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Easy Link for today... not between worlds, but between work
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ganonfan1995 · 1 year ago
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And it's not exactly that all fans ever want linear games (some do~) Most people I've spoken to who didn't like BoTW, simply wanted a game with a bit more depth and energy put into the story and the world.
While I don't fully agree on that front with BoTW (personally I think BoTW was one of the most concise LoZ games to date) ToTK only amplifies BoTW's weaknesses, rather than its stengths.
I understand the desire to expand on Hyrule, to make a truly vast and vibrant world, flush with exploration. Now with next-gen consoles and better hardware, there's a lot more opportunity for these types of games to take front and centre.
But at the same time, large procedurally generated landscapes can often break immersion while feeling bleak and unnatural. Even if landscapes are generated to be as natural as possible, worlds are as much a character, as well...the characters. (I could go on a whole tangent about design here, but I digress..)
I think what people miss from LoZ titles, is the human touch and energy invested into making Hyrule, feel like a place, rather than an idea.
BoTW wasn't perfect, but it was their first swing at this type of world and gameplay. I do think it can be improved on, and honestly, I was expecting progress on that front in ToTK.
But given that ToTK (past the demo lmao) was nothing more than a 100$ expansion on BoTW...I'm not feeling too confident myself moving forward with these open-world Zelda games.
Despite being linear games, growing up OOT and WW felt open world enough for me. LttP was a super fun play that had both a linear story line, and open world possibilities while giving the player full access to all the dungeons and tools off the bat.
If sacrificing genuine, thoughtful, world-building and design is what it means to have a truly open world Hyrule...I kind of don't want it either.
I dunno just some thoughts
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lace4forest · 4 months ago
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Hey so, you know how the old man in A Link Between Worlds is actually a secret super boss??
You know how he uses all your equipment???
Did you know that the Hero of Legend's actual Hero title isn't the hero of Legend but actually "The Legendary Hero"????
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Huh.
I'm doing research for a video and it's going very well :)
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yogurtlid10000 · 1 year ago
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Stupid stuff I’ve drawn recently 😓
Had to hop on the trend with my personal favorite characters I WOULDVE DONE BRAINSTORM OR PERECEPTOR but I thought it was funnier with Megan
Recently I’ve been thinking about whirl 🤔hes a very interesting character to me
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Another whirlydoodle
😎I CAN ONLY DRAW THE HOLOFORM sob it’s embarrassing
Ok goodbye 😇I need to speed run Christmas cards
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autumnoakes · 1 year ago
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hi im ranting (positively! this game kills me but in a good way) about breath of the wild again
i know it's controversial but i love the way the story of the game is told. because you start the game in the middle, perhaps near the end, of the story. the game is entirely through link's perspective and he wakes up knowing and remembering nothing. in turn, the player starts off knowing nothing. the past is revealed as the story goes along, and the player learns about the past and about the land as link does. there are little tidbits about hyrule and about the calamity scattered across the land. an old woman in hateno village tells you of an age of desolation that she grew up in. the travellers you see on the road are younger people because they're described by older characters as more bold, whereas the older characters grew up being told to never leave the village, it's too dangerous outside (compare this even to tears of the kingdom, where travellers are more common because the land has been safer. even older characters have left their home to travel elsewhere (not including the lurelin villagers)). battlefields are still strewn with old rusty weapons and deactivated guardians that no one but monsters will go near. myths and legends about the princess and hero have been passed down, to the point where their legitmacy is questioned and everyone has a different opinion on them.
it's environmental storytelling. it's things like seeing drawings and a bow in zelda's study and seeing a child reading a storybook with a hero that wears a blue tunic similar to link's. it's the stories that the villagers share about old myths that turn out to be true. it's the ruins scattered across the land, long since overtaken by monster camps but still unmistakably being houses that people once lived in. it's the utter lack of civilization anywhere remotely near the castle and the feeling of dread in the ruins of the town that surrounds it. it's a kingdom entrenched in its past, with no ability to move away from it until the calamity is finally defeated.
#head into the wall. i love this game so much#legend of zelda#breath of the wild#and no i dont hate totk for getting rid of the sheikah tech and replacing it with zonai tech#the zonai tech is foreign and new to the people of hyrule and theyre EXCITED about it#how many zonai researchers are there in totk vs how many sheikah researchers in botw?#people are wary of the technology that destroyed their home a century ago#and they're terrified of the guardians that still roam the land#i still hold that link likely was behind the reason why the shrine of resurrection was completely dismantled#it's kinda like majora's mask in which half of the story is in the side quests and the characters#mm had a plot yeah but it kind of accompanied the rest of the setting#link had a goal but he also had so many people to talk to#botw is similar. link has a goal in mind but he's also one to help others#and if someone literally just lost their chickens or if their husband is sick and needs medicine. he's willing to help them out#the world is just as important as the plot itself and i think i like that more#than just a linear plot which is accompanied by the world#botw totk and mm reward you for exploring#(along with some of the others like twilight princess and a link between worlds)#but it's very different i think when half of the game is about exploring#or more than half even. you have your goal but you have to get there first#and there are so many ways you can get there and so much you can encounter along the way#biting screaming crying#the bow is in zelda's room but close enough
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undergoing-mitosis · 1 year ago
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so what if i just
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*stares at you in ^-^ and ._.*
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ozsvessalius · 2 years ago
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nintendo het baiting w sidon and his fiancee only to pull the gayest shit ive seen in a While by having sidon renew his vows w link (they got married at the end of ruta’s quest in botw. obviously. clearly.) and giving him a power that lets him ‘stay by his side forever’. i see you husbands i am so glad your marriage is thriving. good for them. good for them. they also both have two hands for anyone who wants to pull any nonsense im js. there is room for yona she just has to understand link has held sidon’s heart for years first.
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phannamime · 11 months ago
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Thinking about Skyhold, honestly one of the prettiest home bases in gaming. Like even being 10 years old I just love running around and staring at certain sections of it. The touches of it changing and improving, each character having their own little space. The bedrooms tucked away for certain characters are so good.
That being said it feels a bit empty, like the gorgeous bedroom only used in cutscenes and to change clothes is so sad. Let my Inquisitor journal at her desk, or take her personal war room quests there. Put our storage in there as well, have us be able to access the codex from bookshelves, or save at the bed with a 5 second cutscene of the inquisitor getting into bed. Just little things that don’t need to be there but could are my favorite in video games.
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margoshansons · 1 month ago
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THE WORLD BEYOND :: CHAPTER TWO
summary: One hundred years ago, divine relics were unearthed and champions decimated by the very beings they were chosen to control. One hundred years ago, a princess and a knight stood as beacons against a doomed world. One hundred years ago, a girl wielding a mysterious power disappeared in the sands of the desert. One hundred years ago, Calamity struck. One hundred years later, a girl and a knight awake on a great plateau with no memory of anything but their names and a voice inside their heads.
{aka the legend of zelda: breath of the wild with an original character}
Aitana moved much slower than the boy beneath her. Carefully placing her feet and hands in the correct position, she descended the tower slowly and surely, in stark contrast to Link, who’d simply jumped down to each platform. Her limbs were still sluggish from her nap, and her brain felt miles behind as she tried to keep up.
She eyed her new companion with a wary gaze, disappointed to find nothing about him jogged her memory. Golden hair the color of the sun and eyes the color of the sky, she was sure if he had been important to her, she would have remembered him. 
Instead, she remembered nothing.
AO3
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creativesplat · 2 years ago
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Early Morning
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scootatwoni · 7 months ago
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The strongest warriors are those that love botw but don't ship zelink (me its me I'm the strongest warrior)
#*points at botw link* the boy is aroace and theres nothing you could say or do that'll convince me otherwise#(boy in an incredibly nonbinary way btw. hes also nonbinary to me and i cant be convinced otherwise of that either)#tbh? I generally dont ship zelink lol idk its never appealed to me like i never *got* it?#with the exception of skyward sword zelink but thats becos ur invested from the start w/ those two#and link isnt a knight so he isnt bound by obligated--thats just his best friend!!!!#and maybe he didn't have feelings at first but after all that shit went down and theres the threat of him losing her#(and vice versa on Zelda's end) it puts things into perspective...they cant and dont want to fathom a world without the other#honestly i read it both as romance and transcending the confines of romance#(which i suppose suits two characters whose souls/spirits are doomed to reincarnate every cycle lol)#but anyways#maybe also spirit tracks zelink. sometimes! it depends on my mood#spirit tracks arguably (and i will argue) has the best developed zelda so that definitely contributes#becos as much as i love botw and like totk. they really pissed on zelda's character...especially in totk#spirit tracks zelda is much more fleshed out and complete im gonna be real w/ u#again w/ her and link theyve been through shit together and although they werent friends to start like ss link and zelda#they grow into it and eventually become incredibly close so sometimes i read it as romance#but otherwise yeah. not a huge zelink fan!#botw link is much more interested in food than romance and of that isn't the most stereotypical ace thing than idk what is#scout.txt
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strawberryjcm · 6 months ago
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three of them.. . ..
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smilesrobotlover · 2 years ago
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I’ve seen some people with their own takes on Mipha and Sidon’s mom and so I wanted to do my own thing with her too! She looks a little too much like Sidon but I know I wanted him to take after her more so idk what’s up with that lol. None of the two take after Dorephan except for Mipha’s more softer features so they look a LOT like their mother
She’s a very tough and mama bear kinda lady and is very protective of her kids. But I assume she died right after Sidon was born. How? Idk, but rip.
The picture doesn’t do its justice but I know I want her to be TALL. Like taller than Sidon. But yeah! I wish these games would do more with her but they literally don’t mention her once lol. Rip.
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