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#my art#fanart#ff7#ffvii#ffvii remake#ffvii fanart#ff7 fanart#vincent valentine#ff7 vincent#dirge of cerberus#ff7 chaos#i love vinny sm that i keep him in my party all the time in the og ff7 despite his super mid flb :')#im also liking the direction they're taking him in the remake too his interaction with cait sith was 10/10#i love my emo peepaw
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Decomposition Versus Dissolution: The Breakdown of Bodies in Final Fantasy VII
Warnings for discussion of death, dead bodies, and the desecration thereof, as well as references to digestive and gastrointestinal processes including illness. Features images of dead fictional characters and spoilers for basically the entire Compilation.
This is something I've been chewing on for quite a while, and this post is a bit of a doozy because of detailed examples cited to indicate support for this interpretation. It doesn't work 100% of the time, but it's consistent enough that I'm comfortable personally accepting it as accurate enough, and talking with @skadren about it earlier gave me the impetus to finally organize it well enough to put out into the public sphere. Consider this my personal standard model of Gaian decomposition—if and when we get a better canonical explanation, I'll take it, but for now this works for me, so maybe it'll work for you too!
In the world of Final Fantasy VII, there are four possible outcomes after the death of an animal lifeform:
Decomposition – Organic breakdown of physical remains over time after death, as seen in the real world.
Dissolution – The energetic breakdown of physical remains at the moment of death.
Delayed Dissolution – The sudden energetic breakdown of physical remains at some point after the moment of death, prior to the onset of traditional decomposition.
Rejection – Cases in which the remains neither decompose nor dissolve, physical remains left intact and energetic remains unabsorbed by the Lifestream.
Floral and fungal life appear to be subject only to decomposition, while the outcomes for native microbial and viral lifeforms are unknown. This piece considers all fiends, even those with characteristics similar to floral lifeforms, to be animals, although it's more likely that fiends in-universe comprise their own unique clade on the tree of life.
There's very little information within canonical lore to even directly imply the determining factors for any given outcome, but we can gain insight on these factors by noting when and where a given outcome occurs.
We do have to accept that some instances are based entirely on game mechanics rather than on any lore, as sometimes the field needs to be cleared in order to maintain the gameplay experience, but the fact that we see all of these in cutscenes through the series make it clear that it isn't only a game mechanic.
Based on known instances, prerequisites appear to be as follows:
Decomposition occurs in lifeforms with no or low mako exposure, or with a unique connection to the planet. These remains are able to rot naturally, as that's the most effective way for their remains to feed Gaia's life cycle, helping to "feed" the planet physically as well as energetically. If we consider the reabsorption of living things in terms of digestion, this would be equivalent to consumption of a so-called "whole food." We can assume this is the case based on the existence of livestock within the FF7 universe, and the known canonical instances of this outcome:
• Ifalna – body dissected by Hojo. (source: FF7R)
• Seto – body petrified and intact in Cosmo Canyon (source: OG, FF7R, OTWTAS)
• Aerith Gainsborough – body put to rest in water. (source: OG, AC)
• Dyne – body buried by Dio. (source: FF7R)
• Melphie Kusakabe – body found by Sonon. (source: FF7R)
• Kalm and Nibelheim locals – bodies used in experimentation. (source: OG, BC)
• North Corel and Gongaga locals – bodies buried by other residents. (source: OG, FF7R)
• Wutaian NPCs – bodies found outside Nibel Reactor. (source: FF7R)
• Rhadoran NPCs – bodies buried by Sephiroth. (source: FF7EC)
• Mr. and Mrs. Rhapsodos – bodies buried by Genesis. (source: CCFF7)
• Unnamed Turks – bodies buried by Genesis. (source: CCFF7)
• Most non-fiend animals – The presence of meat makes this pretty obvious. (source: OG, FF7R)
Dissolution occurs in lifeforms with moderate to high mako exposure, presumably due to energetic destabilization at the point of death rendering the remains much easier for the planet to reabsorb. Following the same digestion comparison as above, this is similar to the human body's accelerated processing of refined sugars as compared to raw sugars or whole foods. This also appears to occur based on the will of the planet, but the these cases are extremely rare, with only one known occurrence.
We can assume this is accurate based on the following known instances:
• Grimoire Valentine – body began to dissolve while still alive but actively dying, disintegrating entirely at the moment of death. May be a special case due to cause of death. (source: DCFF7)
• Lazard Deusericus – body dissolved at the moment of death. (source: CCFF7)
• Secondary Project G Subjects – bodies most often seen to dissolve at the moment of death in both gameplay and cutscenes, except in rare cases discussed below. (source: CCFF7, DCFF7)
• Midgar locals – implied by the dramatic lack of corpses following the Sector 7 plate drop. (source: FF7R)
• Shinra employees – implied by the dramatic lack of corpses following Zack's last stand, as well as the presence of equipment but no bodies in Nero's training room. (source: OG, CCFF7, FF7R)
• Various fiends – shown to occur in both gameplay and cutscenes. (source: CCFF7, DCFF7, FF7R, FF7EC)
• Kadaj – body began to dissolve while still alive but actively dying. Dissolution appears to have been based on the will of the planet rather than energetic instability. (source: AC)
Delayed dissolution occurs when the remains have been subject to certain types or levels of energetic corruption, even when paired with high levels of mako exposure. This appears to occur either due to an inability for the planet to reabsorb the remains immediately, or because of a partial rejection from the Lifestream.
Energetic corruption in the world of FF7 is stored in the Void and eventually consumed by Chaos, as shown in Dirge of Cerberus; it's safe to assume that these delays occur due to Chaos being more or less unavailable during the course of known canon, having been removed from its post in the mid-1970s and hosted in Vincent Valentine's body in the early 1980s. This explains the growing pollution of the Lifestream during the course of canon, as the planet's primary filtration system is missing or damaged until after Omega's premature awakening, but the energy in question is still compatible with the Lifestream to a high enough degree to eventually be reabsorbed.
Following the digestion metaphor established earlier, this would be similar to eating heavily processed or partially spoiled food with a damaged gut biome, leading to slow digestion, discomfort, and eventual illness.
These cases are slightly more difficult to confirm, but are proven to occur via cutscenes and narrative in the following instances:
• Zack Fair – body persisted long enough for Cloud to collect himself and leave after a year of catatonia, but neither present at later visits to the location nor indicated in any source to have been recovered following his last stand. Shown to have been "taken" by Angeal, although this may have been strictly thematic. (source: OG, CCFF7)
• Angeal Hewley – confirmed by Hojo's statement via mission brief that his body was not recovered, in spite of having persisted after death in Modeoheim. (source: CCFF7)
• Gillian Hewley – unconfirmed but presumable based on the persistence of her body during the razing of Banora and the delayed dissolution of all primary and some secondary Project G subjects. (source: CCFF7, FF7EC)
• Professor Hojo – as shown in the screenshot at the top of this section. (source: DCFF7)
• Lucrecia Crescent – indicated by her body's persistence even as her energetic remains have been slowly eroded by the Lifestream over time, even after her initial rejection from the Lifestream similar to discussion below. (source: OG, DCFF7)
• Secondary Project G Subjects – most notably a handful of Copies from both Genesis and Angeal. This may be based on their manner of death, as Copies killed in the presence of Sephiroth seem to persist for a time, while those killed elsewhere do not. (source: CCFF7)
• DeepGround SOLDIERS – shown to leave corpses persistently enough for Nero to play with them in order to scare his opponents, but indicated to eventually dissolve based on the presence of damaged gear but lack of corpses in Nero's training room. (source: DCFF7, FF7R)
• Various fiends – shown to occur in gameplay and cutscenes. (source: CCFF7, FF7R, FF7EC)
• Various NPCs – energetically only, shown to be incapable of disseminating into the Lifestream after death due to some polluting action or affect applied during life. Should not be confused with rejection, discussed below, as the energetic remains of these lifeforms will eventually dissolve properly. (source: DCFF7, OTWTAS)
Rejection is the most rare outcome following death, at least with regard to physical bodies; energetic rejection is slightly more common by volume, but only because of one very large group energetically rejected by the Lifestream at a point several thousand years pre-canon.
Rejection is only indicated to occur for one of two reasons:
Incompatibility with the Lifestream itself.
The will of the planet based on necessity.
In cases of incompatibility, it's similar to the concept of mixing oil and water, two materials that will always eventually separate if not subjected to a chemical change to allow incorporation. With regards to the will of the planet, this occurs when the subject in question is integral to the continued functioning of the planet itself, and can't be allowed to remain physically decomposed or to energetically disseminate. To complete the metaphor of consumption and digestion, rejection via incompatibility would be instances of eating materials that can't be digested and should be ejected from the body, while rejection due to planetary processes is similar to swallowing something important and intentionally inducing vomiting in order to reclaim the item in question.
There are only six known cases of complete rejection, and one population-wide case of strictly energetic rejection:
• Jenova – complete rejection, body in usable condition with will intact even thousands of years after death. Remains persist in usable condition even years after destruction of main portion just prior to Meteorfall. Rejection appears to be caused by incompatibility due to extraterrestrial origin, as most individuals with Jenova infection, even severe cases, are eventually capable of dissolution to some degree. (source: OG, AC, FF7R)
• Sephiroth – complete rejection, body mostly intact and will fully intact five years after his death in the Nibelheim Incident, with will remaining energetically active even after final destruction of body. Body also capable of being reconstituted based on force of will. Rejection presumed to be caused by incompatibility due to Jenova's extraterrestrial origins. (source: OG, AC, FF7R, OTWTAS)
• Vincent Valentine – complete rejection, body regenerates and reconstitutes after death on multiple occasions. Originally serving as host to Chaos—a Weapon—the powers bestowed by this role persist even after its consciousness returns to the planet, proven by Vincent's return to form in Chaos' cave following complete physiological destruction during his last stand to stop Omega. This repeated rejection from the Lifestream, both physically and energetically, implies Vincent's position postcanon is that of Chaos' successor, not its container, rendering him integral to planetary processes. (source: OG, AC, DCFF7, OTWTAS)
• Cloud Strife – complete rejection, rejected from the Lifestream and healed of mortal wounds and illness multiple times. Rather than being due to incompatibility based on his S-cell infection, Cloud's rejections being fairly gentle—similar to Vincent's—seems to imply he's integral to planetary processes, presumably due to his unique ability to subdue Sephiroth. (source: OG, AC)
• Nero the Sable – complete rejection, body reconstitutes in the Void upon death while will and energetic remains persist on multiple occasions. Genetic relation to Chaos through use of corrupted mako in his conception presumably lead to him being viewed as equally integral to planetary processes, even if this may not be the case. (source: FF7DC, FF7R)
• Weiss the Immaculate – complete rejection, body persists even after death with will intact in spite of assumptions to the contrary and canonical complete energetic purity. Rejection appears to be due to his position as vessel of Omega, another Weapon, which renders him integral to planetary processes in much the same way as Vincent Valentine. (source: FF7DC)
• The Gi – energetic rejection only, affecting the entire species, although some bodies appear to still be intact in Cosmo Canyon for use in merit trials; possibly reconstituted through force of will, but more likely maintained by locals for cultural reasons. Rejection is due to incompatibility with the Lifestream, as the Gi are extraterrestrial lifeforms much like Jenova. (source: FF7R)
Again, there are instances that go against this interpretation, although those primarily take place in gameplay rather than in cutscenes or narrative, lending credence to the concept that these exceptions are based on game mechanics rather than lore.
If you read this far and this speaks to you, great! I'm glad I was able to shed some light on this particularly confusing fictional subject! If you read this far and this doesn't speak to you, that's also fine! Implications within canon don't necessarily make a particular interpretation the canonical one, after all.
Either way, thank you so much for lending me your time—I hope it was an enjoyable read, if nothing else.
Source Key: OG - Final Fantasy VII (1997) | AC - Advent Children (2005) + Complete (2009) | BC - Before Crisis (2004) | DCFF7 - Dirge of Cerberus (2006) | CCFF7 - Crisis Core (2007) + Reunion (2022) | FF7R - Final Fantasy VII Remake (2020) + Rebirth (2024) | FF7EC - Ever Crisis (2023) | OTWTAS - On The Way To A Smile (2004, 2009)
#final fantasy vii#ffvii#final fantasy 7#ff7#final fantasy 7 remake#final fantasy 7 rebirth#ff7r#ff7rb#dirge of cerberus#fandom ramble#how do I tag this#anyone who gets more than one sentence I guess?#sephiroth#vincent valentine#cloud strife#angeal hewley#jenova#nero the sable#weiss the immaculate#grimoire valentine#lucrecia crescent#zack fair#gillian hewley#ff7 chaos#ff7 omega#tw death
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Wouldn't it be fun if Chaos was the one reaping all the other universes as their time runs out? Wouldn't it be fun if Vincent wasn't sure if that was really happening, or a constant stream of nightmares where he kills everything and everyone over and over again?
You're welcome.
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Life🏵/Death🌌
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No fanart of Chaos and Aerith together? Let me change that REALLLLL quick.
Bad close ups below
#Just know that I DESTROYED my pencil nib and my back drawing this#But god I love them#Life giver and death bringer y'know man#Like god I'm crazy for these two#I was sooo nervous drawing Chaos at first but I think I pulled him off really nicely#So proud.....😤#HopeThisDontFlop-#Ff7#Final fantasy 7#Final fantasy vii#Ffvii#Final fantasy#ff7 rebirth#ff7 remake#ff7 aerith#ff7 vincent#Vincent Valentine#Aerith Gainsborough#Vincent x Aerith#Aerith x Vincent#YES this is sort of ship art shut up#I need to know their ship name ASP#digital art#Art#Artwork#Fanart#Fandom#Da BirdQueen art#Ff7 Chaos#ff7 dirge of cerberus
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chaos redesign concept
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I CAN SEE YOU CHAOS!
#final fantasy vii#final fantasy 7#ff7 rebirth#vincent valentine#ff7 vincent#ff7 chaos#man i wish it appeared in this game#i just wanted to see what they'd do with a new chaos design#and also it's connection to like everything planet related
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One of my fav time travel stories. A what if Vincent went back in time and tried to change things. It's not a long story for those who want something quick. I love Hellbeast for writing this. Main Characters: Cid, Vincent, and Chaos.
Bit from story:
Cid squints incredulously, furiously. He shoves the damn toothpick to the other side of his mouth.
“Do I look like some Big Damn Hero,” he intones, grave as a mortuary.
“Yes,” the vampire answers, without a shred of hesitation.
God damnit.
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#final fantasy 7#vincent valentine#ff7#Vincent valentine turk#shinra company#chaos#ff7 vincent#dissociate#Final fantasy 7 Rebirth
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No the limit breaks aren't for playing with
#It's so cute when she hides in his cape in AC I can't#Like she has 0 fear of her funny vampire uncle#ff7#ff7 rebirth#ff7 remake#ff7 fanart#vincent valentine#marlene wallace#ffvii#ffvii vincent#Also I just noticed I picked whatever for the LB designs lol#Like I took Gallians remake design#Hellmakskers og design#And Chaos' dirge design lmao#It's not my fault that hellmaker and gigas aren't in dirge and that dirge has a bad design for gallian#Well tbh I don't really like the chaos design from dirge either but it's better than its design in og
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Ooooohh boy I could write you an essay on this piece I love it sooo much. Hell, I just might. You deserve to know just how much I love this one. Gonna put under readmore
I genuinely think this is one of your best ones yet, especially when it comes to Chaos, whose design is very complex and difficult to pull off right. It blends organic shapes and some very sharp angles, after all. You've captured that presence well, Chaos feels just sharp enough to cut through the screen and fly right out into the real world ;)
The values here are so good, I was immediately drawn to his face and eyes and the Protomateria. The materia itself looked like the moon at first glance, which is very fitting considering Vince does have many vampire inspirations. The shading is superb as well, creating contrast where it needs to and accentuating his body shape well to set him apart from the background. Ahhh I love it so much. It's badass and mysterious, evoking all the grace and power of this form. I applaud your work 💜
Grim Reaper - Chaos
#phantom I love this one soooo much ahh#so beautiful#I'm rambling in the description but I gotta lol#final fantasy vii#final fantasy 7#ff7#ffvii#vincent valentine#ff7 chaos#ffvii chaos#not my art
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ring ring V̺̑i̘͖͐̆ń̲̮̱̱͈̀̏̃͘c̟̐ȩ̥̗̦̃͑̓̀n͖̫͂̈́ṭ̩̃͠ ̛̳̝̺̋́i͙͂̄͢s̬̕ ń̲̽ͅó̹̯̎̉͜t͇̫̠̄̋͆ ̳̣̋̄͢͞h͓̤̎̾͑͟om̧̪͔̪͒͊͌͞e̯͊̓͢ ̖̫̤̱̐̔̅̔r̘̲͓̀̈́̕iġ͓͉̹̺̽̄̍ĥ͕̮̗̐̋̈̚͜��ṭ̂ ņ̨͈̼͆͊̄̕o̩͒̈́̚͜͢w̮̻̰͔͇̓̑̾̒͡
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my take on chaos vincent! the shape of his wings in canon has bothered me for a very long time, and rebirth has made vincent and and all his forms hit the front of my brain unbelievably hard
may draw a ref for his back and how his fangs are more like oni teeth than vampire teeth, but we’ll see
ᵗᵘᵐᵇˡʳ ʰᵃˢ ⁿᵒ ᵃˡᵍᵒʳᶦᵗʰᵐ. ᵖˡᵉᵃˢᵉ ʳᵉᵐᵉᵐᵇᵉʳ ᵗᵒ ʳᵉᵇˡᵒᵍ ᶦᶠ ʸᵒᵘ ˡᶦᵏᵉ ᵐʸ ᵃʳᵗ
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FLASHING LIGHTS WARNING
Finally illustrating this concept I have that Vincent looks very strange in a very specific way under UV light. (Turns out humanity is only skin deep, and sometimes not even that.)
(See still images here.)
#flashing tw#flashing warning#flashing lights#vincent valentine#final fantasy 7#ff7#final fantasy vii#ffvii#final fantasy 7 rebirth#ff7 rebirth#ff7rb#ff7r#dirge of cerberus#ff7 chaos#art tag
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Let me out, Vincent.
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I'm not even a big fan of the Bahamut skins but I really wanted to make my own design for Vincent because it honestly works best with him. [Click for better quality]
I went more on the Chaos side of things though. Keeping it more dark and silver for him.
Lineart only and close ups below
#This design shit is weriddddd but fun I guess-#Drawing this made me realize how pretty and good he looks in purple y'know#Ube Chaos 😋😋😋#If this does decently well then maybe I'll draw him more#Ff7#Final fantasy 7#Ffvii#Final fantasy vii#Final fantasy#ff7 vincent#Vincent Valentine#Ff7 chaos#Ff7 ec#final fantasy 7 ever crisis#ff7 ever crisis#Digital art#Art#Artwork#Fanart#Fandom#Da BirdQueen art
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Was playing Dirge with a friend and got these screenshots...
The fangs on this Chaos??? I'm tweaking so bad
#ff7#ffvii#final fantasy 7#final fantasy vii#dirge of cerberus#vincent valentine#chaos vincent#he's so...#i never thought i'd be going feral on tumblr#i'm so sorry to anyone who sees this#i just have to share#people need to see this beautiful man#miscellaneous
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