#Athens Incident

[kwebtv]

From the Golden Age of Television

Season 1 Episode 7

The Hunter - Athens Incident - CBS - August 13, 1952

Espionage Drama

Running Time: 30 minutes

Written by Henry Kane

Produced by Edward J. Montagne

Directed by Oscar Rudolph

Stars:

Barry Nelson as Bart Adams

Gregory Morton as Partheus

Somar Alberg as Dr. Karrakas

Jacqueline deWit as Stefani

Ronald Dawson as Laius

Mary Alice Moore as Rhonda Garland

Gene Ruymen as Bartender

[unknownjayyyyyyyy]

Auntie Penthesilea save me…..Save me Auntie Penthesilea

[kebriones]

Sigh

Axiochus/Alcibiades fanfic where Axiochus takes him on vacation to Abydos directly after the whole "sleeping with Socrates" incident to help him get his mind off of things. Does Axiochus look and sound a smell a little too much like his dad? Is he too angry at Socrates to be able to exercise any kind of self-restraint while in Abydos? Is it his last chance at letting loose before having to serve his 2 years of military training?

[classiqals]

something about the way she smiled sent a fresh wave of frustration through roland, though he could not quite place why. perhaps it was the way she gazed at him - how she knew of him, and he, nothing of her. the woman spoke like she knew things, and roland could count on one hand the last time he felt so confident in his own understanding of such things.

lips curled back into a grimace, charged with growing annoyance, when once again, the unnamed blonde let drop that silly little phrase; and he felt, all at once, rendered yet back to childhood. but before his mind could conjure up some equally fitting moniker to thrust upon the girl, he paled, eyes flashing with a sort of immediate reaction, and one that was not positive. " the fuck are you on about, you nyaff? who is it exactly you think you are, anyway? " the king blurted out, not fully trained even now on proper etiquette that a ruler should maintain, at all times.

oh, shit. princess? oracle? he could not get away quick enough, already inching discreetly to place space between them. " i would give such introduction in return, but apparently, you already know me. " roland muttered, wary eyes trained right back at the oracle. " but it is roland, not kingling. "

nervous. jittery. his hand found the collar of his blouse, and the princess raised an eyebrow up at him — her emerald gaze unwavering. " i do not believe i am. " she said, though unbothered by his defiance of her words. it was not often people liked to hear the things they didn't want to acknowledge. though, at his irritation — zelenia's lips curled into a smirk.

" that is what you are, is it not? you are the youngest, yes? yet you all share a throne. " zelenia mused, words that were fact rather then speculation. it was an odd practice to her, the perplexing monarchy scotland had taken up. " your place as kingling — that is not what bothers you, though. " the oracle took a sip from the glass of wine still in her hands, eyes trained on the king before her. " less political, more . . . otherworldly. " she did not offer a hand, nor a bow, as she introduced herself. " zelenia, princess and oracle of athens. "

[sgiandubh]

Live with it

Dear Masquerading Anon,

There is no need to shout, it is very rude and translates as hate speech. And it is absolutely ridiculous to bet on something you will never be able to prove, simply because you can never prove something that never happened.

I am a senior Government official, with already a twenty-two year long career in various positions, who was sent by my ministry on a diplomatic mission to Athens from 2018 to 2024, under the umbrella of our MFA and as part of our Embassy team. This has been confirmed many times, including by people of this community who used (and still do) my mail address and my private phone numbers, both in Greece and at home. I am currently home, waiting for my next tour abroad, which has been decided upon and requires a lengthy ongoing procedure. I have consistently offered more evidence about myself and my real life than you ever offered about your own identity, whoever you might be.

Why do I have the unpleasant impression I do know who you are, having kicked you out a long time ago, from my page? If I remember well, you have always insisted to know who I was, what I did for a living, where I lived, and so on. I could be wrong, of course, but at the moment, I tend to doubt it.

Connecting that other blogger's decision to deactivate and any intervention from me is supposing I have far more leverage or interest in her person than I ever did and plain demented. Bet you'll never be able to explain how I would have managed to do it, nor the logic fracture between me being a civilian (according to you, since you stated I was a liar, therefore nobody) and the same civilian nobody being suddenly able to have someone else deactivate a blog I only superficially read, and not really cared about.

The same above person's decision to block me was never explained, but explicit enough. She and I never talked and she was never mentioned on this page. Another blogger, now deceased, came in my DMs shortly before or afterwards (not caring, I do not remember exactly when, on that timeline) to utter menace and the same accusations of content robbing. I felt beyond insulted and had no idea what she was talking about or to whom she thought she was talking to. But I also understood I was talking to an elderly, perhaps fragile woman and chose to remain silent about it. With all due respect for someone who passed away, I will make an exception from my DM non-disclosure rule and give you that very short conversation:

Note the date: June 28, 2023. I have to confess it was the first time I was under this kind of online pressure and I did not take it very well. Yet, I carried on, with no fuss and no drama. I simply hope the person that so cavalierly approached me found peace and knows, by now, the truth of this circumstance. I honestly believe she does, and cannot hold a grudge, in her case: de mortuis, nisi bene. That does not mean I forgot about it, mind you.

Following this incident and some other people putting direct or indirect pressure on me, I took the decision (and appropriate steps, with regard to my own life circumstances) to be as open as I could afford about myself. I believe I was always civilized to people who approached me in a civilized manner, always admitted my mistakes and always appropriately credited any blogger whose work I have used or who tipped me. Even those who did not want to be mentioned: politeness always finds a way. I have nothing to be ashamed of, so to speak, on account of my presence in this community.

About @gabysachs' very recent insinuations of me robbing evidence discussed by Diggsydogsquee, which might have triggered you to post this Anon, well… A browser is a thing of wonder, indeed, because it keeps trace of every single thing one does on the Internet. It's called the 'History' tab and is very useful.

For example, I have posted that thing apparently bothering many of you exactly on Monday, at 04:08 AM, local time:

I usually write as I research and adjust upon proofreading, which has often landed me in boiling water. It is what it is and again, I always confessed my sins and sought atonement (I know you are familiar with this vocabulary). To prepare that particular post, here is the activity log, recording the webpages I have consulted and then screen capped. Beware, it is a long backwards roster, from the most recent to the first consulted webpages - research is a tedious affair, after all:

Highlighted above are the webpages I believe @gabysachs thought I might have robbed from her friend's now deactivated blog. In reality, the hitch.co.uk reference is one of the top ten links listed by Google when you look for 'foreign citizens getting married in Ibiza'. I chose that particular one, because it was reasonably recent (2022) and a British source:

You were saying?

Thought so. And no, darling. I am not going anywhere. Learn to live with it.

PS: You are not even blocked. Cobbling this post was so annoyingly long that I lost the Anon draft in the process. A Tumblr glitch, I suppose, of which there are many.

[schrodingers-monster]

I will die on the hill that Odysseus not killing Polyphemus was the correct choice actually. As clearly stated, to kill Polyphemus when he was unconscious would’ve trapped Odysseus and his men in the cave so he couldn’t have done it then, and afterwards it was revealed that there were more cyclops. although they left after Polyphemus said “nobody“ hurt him it would be reasonable to assume they would come back and aid Polyphemus if they heard the sound of fighting. That is of course not even mentioning the potential of losing more men to Polyphemus. After all he was a huge threat and they only managed to blind him once he was unconscious.

simply put, continuing to fight Polyphemus instead of retreating would be tactically what I’d call a really fucking bad decision. The only reason for odysseus to continue to fight would be for vengeance. They didn’t have to fear retribution when Polyphemus had no way to identify them visually and no names. So then why did Athena want Odysseus to kill him?

Because Polyphemus is Poseidon’s son and Athena and Poseidon fucking hate each other (see the naming of Athens and the creation of Medusa).

One could arguably say that the incident could actually be blamed on Athena, as before she talked to Odysseus it seemed like he was going to just take the sheep and leave but immediately after their conversation when emotions were running very high was when he told Polyphemus his name, status, and nation.

Was this incredibly fucking stupid of Odysseus? Yes. That was the mistake Odysseus made, not sparing Polyphemus.

that being said, Odysseus handled the entire incident very well other than that one mistake and I think it can be forgiven seeing as how he literally just watched one of his closest friends who he’d known since childhood be killed right in front of him. odysseus managed to hold it together long enough to formulate a plan to incapacitate Polyphemus, secure the sheep, and escape.

I would argue that Athena disrupted the delicate balance of remaining functional and making intelligent decisions by deciding to pursue her rivalry with Poseidon (and of course framed it as Odysseus being soft and stupid if he not only chose to prioritize the lives of those under his command over vengeance but also follow his very newly dead best friends last wishes for peace and mercy) over supporting Odysseus or even just leaving him alone right before they were out of the gauntlet and he was able to allow himself to break down

TLDR: killing Polyphemus made no sense tactically, Odysseus’s mistake was telling him his name and that was mostly Athena‘s fault anyway

[dcdreamblog]

related to the Hawks, the Furies are a similarly complicated tangle. I thought the first one was Wonder Woman's daughter but apparently she doesn't have a daughter and actually the first one was part of All-Star Squadron. My brain feels like melting whenever i think about it to hard. is this a reality rewrite thing (like those missing kids?) or am i crazy

So you're not going crazy. There is a REASON the idea that the second Fury was Wonder Woman's daughter has hung around for so long that has to do with the interpersonal issues around the woman's birth and childhood. This is one of those things I have been studying ahead of time knowing this ask was coming. Especially because both women are very deeply tied into my expertise. Also you should pretty much assume the answer to "is this a reality rewrite thing" is always yes (The universe changes when we're not looking, you won't remember how or why, the best possible plan is to not worry about it.)

Now, onto the first Fury so I can explain the second.

(A propaganda poster of the first Fury. She was popular pinup and nosecone art. For reasons) Helena Kosmatos was born in Athens, Greece in 1925. The first 16 years or so of her life are undocumented and assumed to be mostly moot until the Italian invasion and German occupation of the country in 1941. Her father was killed by Italian troops in an unknown incident and soon after her brother Michael began to collaborate with the occupying forces. Confronting her brother about this at the dinner table in front of their elderly mother, Mrs Kosmatos suffered a fatal heart attack from the news (her son had been keeping his collaboration a secret from their mother, which Helena didn't know at the time). Running from her brother onto the famous Areopagus a rock outcropping outside the city she unwittingly invoked the Furies of Greek myth and was possessed by Tisiphone.

This came with the benefit of granting her superhuman abilities, mostly strength and speed. But, as she learned when her brother confronted her it also allowed Tisiphone to take control of her body during moments of intense stress and anger transforming her into he mythological fury who slew her brother in cold blood.

Eventually discovered by Johnny Quick on an international assignment and taken to live with an aunt and uncle in Miami she was present when Axis Amerika attacked the Perisphere in April of 1942 where her powers were revealed at large. Taken into the newly formed Young All Stars she was instantly attracted to teammate Iron Munro with whom she shared an on again, off again flirtation. She also grew a close, sisterly bond with Joan Dale AKA Ms America who tried her best to take the troubled girl under her wing for a while. An important detail in your question would be when she met Queen Hippolyta, acting at that time under the identity of Wonder Woman. Helena and Hippolyta became VERY close in a short period of time, Helena coming to see the amazonian matriarch as a mother figure. When Hippolyta returned to Themyscira after the war Helena never truly got over the loss of forgave Hippolyta for the decision. Post war she returned to Greece, met a man, married and settled down until her husband was murdered at some point in the mid 70s by a Greek fascist in an attempt on Helena's life. Spending years stalking the man she caught up with him in England and one he was killed her fragile psyche was put in a state where she was discovered mostly catatonic and placed in an English nursing home. Which is where our second Fury enters this tale.

(The second Fury seen here speaking at an Infinity Inc press conference)

Soon after Helena's husband was killed, she gave birth to their child. Too dedicated to revenge to raise the child properly, Helena left her daughter, named Hippolyta after Helena's beloved mentor, with her old friend Joan Dale and her husband Admiral Derek Trevor. From which Hippolyta, nicknamed Lyta, took her surname after the pair adopted her when Helena failed to return for her daughter after 5 years. THIS is where the confusion comes from. The 1st Fury was very close to the WWII era Wonder Woman who treated her AS a daughter in many ways. And the 2nd Fury is named after said WWII era Wonder Woman due to that close relationship. To wrap up the story as quickly as possible, both women would struggle with intense mental and emotional traumas in life. Helena would eventually be discovered by the modern Wonder Woman and after a confrontation with Cheetah would take her to Themyscira where Helena and Hippolyta reunited after decades. With much effort and care Hippolyta was able to help her old protegee recover and officially adopted her as a second daughter alongside Diana. As far as I know Helena lives there still as a close confidant to Hippolyta and an official Amazon. Lyta would serve as the second Fury for a long stretch in Infinity Inc alongside many other heirs of the JSA, although she assumed she was the daughter of Ms America (the coincidence, or fate, of her choosing Fury as her codename is both staggering and heartbreaking). She would fall in love with Silver Scarab, the son of the Golden Age Hawks but the couple would tragically lose their first child soon after Hector himself was killed in the line of duty. Lyta would have a poor confrontation with her birth mother leading to the pair to sever basically all attempts at contact and while Lyta's adoptive mother did her best to be there for her despite her husband and Lyta's adoptive father passing away some years ago Lyta only became more and more despondent. She vanished from the public eye for a few years with the only update being the news that she had passed away. She, Hector and their son Daniel are all buried at Valhalla cemetery in New York where one can only hope they will be together in all the ways life kept them apart.

[kchasm]

Ryu Number: Aristides

Aristides—often called "Aristides the Just"—was an early 5th century politician and general of the city-state of Athens. He first rose to notability leading troops to ward off the Achaemenid Empire at the 490 BCE Battle of Marathon (the Achaemenids being the "Persian" part of "Greco-Persian Wars").

Politically, he opposed another Athenian politican and general, Themistocles, a rivalry which eventually resulted in Aristides' ostracism from Athens—"ostracism" being a democratic procedure where Athenian citizens could vote for someone to be exiled from Athens for ten years.

Plutarch, the 1st century Greek philosopher and historian, tells an anecdote that took place during this event. As voters were inscribing their ostraca (the broken pieces of pottery on which voters wrote the names of those they would ostracize—in the singular, "ostracon"), Aristides was approached by one illiterate citizen who, not recognizing Aristides, asked him to write Aristides' name on it for him. Aristides asked the man what wrong it was that Aristides had done him.

"None at all," came the response, "neither know I the man; but I am tired of hearing him everywhere called 'The Just.'"

Aristides said nothing else, but wrote his name on the ostracon and returned it.

Aristides has a Ryu Number of at most 2.

Aristides gets on The Chart thanks to the new "Chronicles: Battle for Greece" DLC for Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition. Other additions include his rival Themistocles, the Achaemenid-allied queen Artemisia I of Caria, and Lysander, who destroyed Kalos the Athenian Empire.

Incidentally, the Ostracon Incident (which I'm pretty sure is the title of a Robert Ludlum novel) shows up in the game, though the narration doesn't call attention to it.

Yeah, that means the illiterate man who needed help with his ostracon also has a Ryu Number of at most 2. Consider that a little bonus Ryu Number for y'all.

[ep2nd]

I have to say, Hippolytus has become one of my favorite myths/Greek heroes, and not just cause we're both AroAces... mostly

Now the basic story is- Man just wants to live his best hunting life with the goddess Artemis without any relationships and then Aphrodite goddess of Love looks at that and goes "HOW DARETH NOT SHIPPETH" and eventually causes his death by his own father... which tumbles into Asclepius death and Apollo turning human... again

Well here's some things I'd like to say that should be talked about more, some headcannos some retelling some filling in blanks

Hippolytus is a PRINCE OF ATHENS. Heck he's Theseus' son. THE Theseus. He probably still had expectations and a job to do as a prince. It wouldn't surprise me if suitors tried to get him married. Like, men from across Greece would LOVE to have their daughter we'd to this guy, the prince of Athens! Think of the power and stability. Think of the stories where Hippolytus just runs into the woods because he hate she responsibilities and doesn't want to get married. And his dad probably forcing him to choose! WHERES THAT.

Let's remember the maternal side of his family. Aka the badass warrior Hippolyta, THE QUEEN OF THE AMAZONS AND DAUGTER OF THE GOD OF WAR AND THE FOUNDER OF THE AMAZONS. I know Amazon's don't like men, but as shown with Hippolyta with Theseus and later Heracles, she still respects strong men. I believe his mom LOVED him, despite being male. Was so proud and adored him, teaching her son the Amazonian ways. Not to say that his grandmother, Otrera was probably still alive. Probably didn't like men like her daughter, but could respect her strong grandson, ESPECIALLY WHEN SHE FOUND OUT HE JOINED ARTEMIS HUNT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE 2 MAIN GODS OF THE AMAZONS. Aka I want to see how Hippolyta and Otrera felt about him.

Now depending on the myth, Hippolyta can be related to 1 to 3 gods. Aka he has the highest record of a Legacy... I think. His grandfather's are Poseidon(Theseus dad)and Ares(Hippolytas dad) and with a stretch, cause I like this Headcannon, his great grandfather is Eurus (Otrera dad, God of Fall and the East wind). So is no one going to talk about how this man is related to 2 powerful Olympians, one of the Wind gods, a descendent of the Amazonians, fierce women warriors, and the son of Theseus, the slayer of the Minotaur????? OH AND HES LIKE THE ONE OF THE FEW MEN ARTEMIS EVER LIKED. THE ARTEMIS. If Ancient Greece had resumes he'd be winning

Talking bout Artemis... it's hard to believe after the Orion incident...which I don't think is too far apart... that Artemis, who befriended a male, giving him a chance, and then him becoming feral and destroying wild life, her sacred place/animals/domain, or falling in love with her, aka the ONE THING YOU DOMT DO. So for Artemis to just get another guy to join the girls only clun.. yeah there was probably a deeper reason and relationship under that. I feel like she met him when he was young, after him running into the woods night hating the royal life, and he helps some girl, probably one of her Huntresses, gets her attention, and they talk about Hunting and hating love, you know fun stuff. I feel like she kinda raised him, teaching him hunting, the importance of life, respecting women, hating love... aka a mom figure(because I'm pretty sure Hippolyta was running the Amazon's and couldn't bring her son with her) so yeah. I believe they had a mother-son relationship. It makes sense it's adorable it also explains how far Artemis would go to bring him back to life. KNOWING THERE WOULD BE CONSEQUENCES. Bruh she didn't even try to resurrect Orion. Just saying a mother's love is very strong.

On that note... I feel like Asclepius and he actually knew each other. 1. Asclepius is nice guy but not dumb, he wouldn't just be handing this cure to death to anyone. Now Artemis could have threatened him but that's whatever. In retrospec, they're kinda cousins, and I feel like they had a nice relationship before his death. ALSO. CAN YOU THINK OF THE ANGST?!? How much guilt Hippolytus would be feeling after. HES THE REASON ASCLEPIUS DIED. YEAH HE DIDN’T ASK FOR ANY OF THIS BUT HIS COUSIN DIED BECAUSE OF HIM. I want those two to reunite and Asclepius to hug him and tell him everything's okay and it worked out cause now he'll help people forever as a god.

Finally. No, he wouldn't forgive his farther. Probably already hates him after, leaving his mom, being a horrible king, not understanding his wished for not wanting to get married, not believing HIS OWN SON OVER HIS NEW WIFE, OH AND KILLING HIM. I want the Hippolyta, Hippolytus, Ariadne, and Zagreus "WE HATE THESEUS" club. Please. It be hilarious. On the topic of Hades game- YES I WANNA SEE HIPPOLYTUS MAYBE HANGING OUT WITH HIS DEAD MOM PELASEEEEW.

[katerinaaqu]

Hello! This may seem like generic ask but I have questions about Greek Gods since your discussion about Greek mythology enlightened me a lot about both the myths and culture of the greeks that most of the internet sources doesn't cover properly, so I specifically want to know about the relationship between Poseidon and Athena.

Like do they really hated each other? The one I know where there was anger and animosity between the two was the contest for Athens, but thing is Poseidon have a lot of contest for patronage of Greek cities with other Gods as well, even his sister Hera. And all of this was contests, of course there will be resentment if you lose. Then, there was another myth that said Poseidon tried to convince Hephaestus to marry Athena because he hate her, and all the passages that I found about those myths was only talking about Hephaestus attempt for Athena, there was no line about Poseidon involvement. The same could be said about the myth where Aphrodite and Ares was caught in Hephaestus net, where people said Poseidon convinced Hephaestus to released them because he wanted Aphrodite to be indebt with him so that they could you know, do the 'thing', but again, I found no line that said that?

Then there was also an obscure myth I found online where it was said that Athena was actually Poseidon's daughter..? But because she hate him, she asked Zeus to be her father and Zeus being the King, complied her wish.

Either I'm not very good at looking for sources or this was just interpretations.

Then again, from what I gathered, like Wikipedia said that in Athens, Poseidon was the second God in importance second only to Athena, which again, not strange because all the Gods are worshipped together even if the cities have one patron God. Besides that, Poseidon have two myths that I know where he work together with Athena like in the iliad where they both on the side of the Greeks, the one I remember vividly was when both Poseidon and Athena swoop down to help Achilles when he was pushed away by the river Scamander, by both gripping each of his arms to pull him up and give him courage. Like, that's a good teamwork right there. Also the ones where they stage a coup against Zeus, see here they also worked together. Of course, there was no problem if there was dislike between the two, it doesn't hindered them being worshipped together and have myths where they work together. They were family after all.

I know in most myths, Gods quarrelled a lot with each other and it have to do with symbolism and explanation for natural phenomenon in that time. It just the way Poseidon and Athena was talked about, it was always sounds like they so despised each other and can't even be in the same room.

Anyway, thanks for answering and I'm sorry if I sound ignorant!

For starters oh goodness Anon you are very kind and I am really touched that you find my stuff useful! It really means a lot! And of course you must never call your question "generic". There is no such thing as "generic" in the interpretation of the past!

Now in regards to the gods; all Gods have likes and dislikes loves passions and rivalries because they are as human as humans themselves can be.

Now in regards to the events with Hephaestus it seems that our mythographer is connecting this with the beef of Poseidon with Athena for their rivalry over the city of Athens, you can see my answer to another ask about it:

So yeah in regards to that incident it seems it was Poseidon being bitter about losing Athens. Which again belongs to the realm of the gods acting like humans and have human weaknesses and human likes and dislikes. And the version of Poseidon being behind the attempt of rape of Athena seems to be given by Hyginus as I said above

But at the same time that doesn't mean that the gods have eternal rivalries. For example they are not having specific roles to like or dislike each other exclusively unless it is something about the symbolism of the lore (for example Ares being by n large a hated god even among his peers is basically how Greeks thought the idea of war is something to be hated in the first place but still necessary and with its own reason to society, thus the fact that Ares is no minor god but an actual god of the Olympian pantheon.

So Athena and Poseidon still appear to work together or have common goals which they try to see through. In one way it definitely seems to link them to their roles as protector of heroes (Athena) and of royalty and status (Poseidon) so in one way both of these ends of the spectrum are connected together. So of course Athena and Poseidon appear to work together.

As for Poseidon's contribution to the dispute between Aphrodite and her husband the most ancient source comes, ironically, from the Odyssey. In the 8th rhapsody of the Odyssey it speaks on how the singer Demodocus starts singing on the love of Ares and Aphrodite and at lyrics 344-345 it says:

But Poseidon did not laugh but he kept insisting for Hephaestus the great craftsman to set Ares free

(Translation by me)

Their rivalry is of course set more to the claim of Athens, which of course seems to be a set of myths that wish to show how important of a city Athens is both strategically and culturally thus having two major gods (an actual son of Kronos and the first and arguably most powerful child of the strongest god of Olympus) and eventually they get co-worshipped because even if Athena is still the patron goddess, Athens has deep roots which they speak on their indigenous nature (an interpretation of the myth of Ericthonius that I mention to the link I provided) thus the importance of both Athena as protector of heroes who were important for Athens but also Poseidon as a protector of the noble lines. What is more Athens is also a potent naval power thus once again the co-association with Poseidon being essential.

In here Poseidon takes the more mature role. All other gods laugh and speak on how they would want to be in Ares's shoes and be tied up with Aphrodite so but Poseidon acts like older and more mature than the rest of them telling to Hephaestus to release them. In a way he speaks as an authority there

In one way that has a multiple meaning in Homer given how not only the presence of Poseidon is always hovering over the heads of everyone in general and Odysseus in particular but also serves as an allegory of the war since Demodocus is about to sing also on the Trojan war, which shall bring Odysseus to tears and he will confess who he is to his listeners. The war started off as an act of love or at least seduction (Aphrodite) and ended up in a bloodshed (Ares) and both were released by a craftsman (Hephaestus) which also connects him to Odysseus himself given how Hephaestus and Odysseus share the same epithet "of many wiles)

As for the version claiming that for some reason Athena being the daughter of Poseidon I believe you are referring to one version of Pausanias in his "Descriptions of Greece" where he mentions Athena as daughter of Poseidon because she has blue eyes unless I am mistaken.

I hope this answers part of your question! Forgive me if I missed some of your asks and I will be happy to elaborate further and please never EVER call yourself ignorant for making good questions! You made me look through plenty of sources to answer you and that is awesome! Please do not be discouraged to ask! And forgive me for being late!

[theholmwoodfoundation]

THE HOLMWOOD FOUNDATION PILOT EPISODE CAST/CREW - PART ONE

REBECCA ROOT - MADDIE TOWNSEND/MINA HARKER

Rebecca trained at Mountview Academy of Theatre Arts. Theatre credits include A Midsummer Night’s Dream at Shakespeare’s Globe, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time for the National Theatre (UK and Ireland tour); Rathmines Road for Fishamble at the Abbey Theatre, Dublin; Trans Scripts at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe and American Repertory Theater in Cambridge, Massachusetts; The Bear / The Proposal at the Young Vic; and Hamlet at the Gielgud Theatre and Athens International Festival. TV, Film and Video Game credits include Monsieur Spade, This Is Christmas, Irvine Welsh’s Crime, Hogwarts Legacy, Horizon Forbidden West, Heartstopper, Annika, The Rising, Sex Education, The Gallery, The Queen’s Gambit, Finding Alice, Creation Stories, Last Christmas, The Sisters Brothers, Colette, The Danish Girl, Flack, The Romanoffs, Moominvalley, Hank Zipzer, Boy Meets Girl, Doctors, Casualty, The Detectives, and Keeping Up Appearances.  Radio credits include Clare In The Community, Life Lines, The Hotel, and 1977 for BBC Radio 4. Guest appearances include Woman’s Hour, Front Row, Loose Ends, Saturday Live, and A Good Read.  She plays Tania Bell in the award-winning Doctor Who: Stranded audio dramas. Rebecca has also recorded numerous documentary narrations, audiobooks, and voice-overs. Rebecca is also a voice and speech coach, holding the MA in Voice Studies from Royal Central School of Speech and Drama.

SEAN CARLSEN - JEREMY LARKIN/ JONATHAN HARKER

Born in South Wales, Seán trained at the Royal Welsh College of Music & Drama. He has worked extensively in audio drama, television, theatre and film.  Seán is perhaps best known to Doctor Who fans as Narvin in the Doctor Who audio series Gallifrey and has appeared on TV in Doctor Who - The Christmas Invasion and Torchwood. Recent TV credits include Mudtown (BBCiplayer/S4C), Dal y Mellt (Netflix), His Dark Materials (BBC1), All Creatures Great and Small (Channel 5), A Mother's Love (Channel 4) and Series 5 of Stella (Sky1).  Films include supporting leads in Boudica - Rise of the Warrior Queen, cult horror The Cleansing,  the lead in Forgotten Journeys and John Sheedy’s forthcoming film ‘Never Never Never’

SAM CLEMENS - ARTHUR JONES

Samuel Clemens trained at the Drama Centre London and is an award-winning director with over twenty years’ experience. Samuel has recently written and directed his debut feature film ‘The Waterhouse’ with Take The Shot Films & Featuristic Films and represented by Raven Banner Entertainment, which is due for release this coming year.  In addition, he has directed fourteen short films, winning awards all over the world including shorts ‘Surgery (multi-award winning), A Bad Day To Propose (Straight 8 winner 2021), Say No & Dress Rehearsal’. Samuel also directs critically acclaimed number one UK stage tours and fringe shows (Rose Theatre Kingston, Swansea Grand, Eastbourne, Yvonne Arnaud, Waterloo East Theatre) and commercials include clients JD Sports, Shell and Space NK. Samuel is also a regular producer and director for Big Finish Productions & Anderson Entertainment. He has cast, directed, produced and post supervised numerous productions of ‘Doctor Who – (BBC), The Avengers (Studio Canal), Thunderbirds, Stingray (Anderson Entertainment), Callan, Missy, Gallifrey’& Shilling & Sixpence Investigate’ and many more. Samuel has directed world class talent such as, Sir Roger Moore, Ben Miles, Tom Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Alex Kingston, Frank Skinner, Rita Ora, Rosie Huntingdon-Whiteley, Rufus Hound, David Warner, Celia Imrie, Samuel West, Youssef Kerkour, Sophie Aldred, Ian McNiece, Colin Baker, Olivia Poulet, Stephen Wight, Jade Anouka, Mimi Ndwendi, Michelle Gomez, Peter Davidson, Paul O’Grady and many more. Samuel is one of the founding members and directors at Take The Shot Films Ltd and is Head of Artistic Creation and Direction. Lastly, Samuel is a regular tutor at The London Film Academy, The Giles Foreman Centre for Acting & The Rose Youth Theatre and is a member of The Directors Guild UK. As for upcoming projects, Sam is currently in pre-production on his next feature film “On The Edge of Darkness”, which is based on his dad’s stage play “Strictly Murder”.

ATTILA PUSKAS - DRACULA

Attila Puskás is a native Hungarian Voice Actor born in Transylvania – Romania, so Romanian is in his bag of tricks too, but most of his work is done in English, in a Transatlantic Eastern European Accent, but is quite capable of Hungarian, Romanian and International Eastern European accents, plus Standard American. His voice range is Adult to Middle Aged (30-40+) due to his deep voice. Vocal styles can range from authoritive, brooding to calming and reassuring and much more. He’s most experienced in character work, like Animations and Games, but his skills encompass Commercials to Narration as well. He’s received training through classes and workshops, pushing him to the next level to achieve higher standards. Now on a journey to perfect these skills and put them to good use!

PART TWO: HERE

PART THREE: HERE

[itskenwaybitch]

goofy ahh alcibiades facts pt. 2

So I bought The Life of Alcibiades: Dangerous Ambition and the Betrayal of Athens by Jacqueline de Romilly :p (I’m aware theres a free pdf of the book somewhere but i like reading physical books better,,,) I used this book for my essay on the man and, when I post this, I will have finished reading the book for funsies. Here’s some more unhinged Alcibiades moments that I have gathered from this book alone with some of my own anecdotes sprinkled in there. Enjoy :) 👍🏻

Related to Ajax supposedly

Dramatic as fuck since birth.As a kid he lay down in the road in front of a cart that messed with the BONES(???) he was playing with and told the driver to run him over?????

Slapped a teacher for not giving him one of Homer’s books

Frequently ran out of money and mansplained manipulated manwhored his way out of the consequences.

Mansplain manipulate manwhore was his entire personality and philosophy, actually.

Slapped his father-in-law and proceeded to demand more money out of his wife’s family. (Those two incidents were not related.)

Slept with the Queen of Sparta behind her husband’s back and got (another) child

One of his lovers, Anytus, invited Alcibiades to dinner and he refused. Alcibiades then proceeded to get drunk and raided Anytus’ house. <3

One of Al’s buddies, Diomedes, asked him to buy a chariot for him from the government of Argos, since Alcibiades had a lot of influence there. Diomedes told Alcibiades to buy it on Diomedes’ account. Alcibiades bought the chariot and kept it for himself.

[jeannereames]

"Nothing in the ancient sources says Alexander was gay!"

Oh? How about this?

φιλόπαις δ᾽ ἦν ἐκμανῶς καὶ Ἀλέξανδρος ὁ βασιλεύς.

"King Alexander was a quite mad boy-lover."

Probably better rendered, "King Alexander was exceptionally infatuated (mania) with boys."

*cough*

(Athen. 603a/13.80, as the preface before recounting one story from Dikaiarchos, a student of Aristotle, and another from Karystios of Pergamon, 2nd century BCE)

No, I wasn't out looking, but I've been reading through Athenaeus as part of the Hephastion-Krateros monograph research, and that was right there.

Yeah, Athenaeus isn't always trustworthy, a late author, but he's one of our major sources for a lot of fragments from earlier (especially Greek) historians now lost. For you Bagoas fans, btw, the first story mentions ATG's affection for Bagoas. The second story, from Karystios, related an incident at a banquet thrown by Krateros. The point of that story is to underscore Alexander's self-control with regard to sex and propriety. He could have demanded a kiss from the boy in question, but knew it would hurt the boy's lover (erastes), so turned it down.

The one issue with Athenaeus, even when he's "quoting" other historians--he's rarely-to-never ACTUALLY quoting them as we understand it. He's paraphrasing to suit the narrative he's telling at the moment. All of Book 13 is about eros.

The nuts who want the proof-texting neither understand nor care about the finer points of historiography. I doubt they've ever even HEARD of Athenaeus, although some have read the highly sanitized/moralizing of Plutarch on ATG's sexuality.

If you want to read the whole little section: Athenaeus 13.80 on Perseus

[whencyclopedia]

Critias

Critias (l. c. 460-403 BCE) was an Athenian politician, poet, and playwright, one of Socrates' followers, Plato's second cousin, a leading member of the Thirty Tyrants of Athens, and leader of the oligarchy they established. He is referenced by other writers as a gifted poet and philosopher but is best known for his ruthlessness as an oligarch of Athens.

His central role in the many abuses of power perpetrated by the Thirty Tyrants overshadowed his earlier achievements as a creative and philosophical influence in Athenian society. Besides his role as one of the Thirty Tyrants, he is also frequently cited as an early atheist who defied the religious conventions of his time. He claimed that the concept of divinity was invented by men who wished to have power over others and so concocted a fable of supernatural beings who would reward or punish behavior in keeping with the agenda of the elite. Professor Thomas Mautner notes that “his is the earliest statement on record that religion is invented by politicians in order to control the people” (116). To Critias, there are no gods or a single God; religion is simply a means whereby the strong and entitled control the weak.

Even so, this charge of atheism is based on a single fragment from one of his plays, placed in the mouth of a character, and since none of the rest of the work remains, it is impossible to know whether this character spoke for the author. Later writers, following the paradigm of Xenophon, who knew Critias, repeated the claim that he was immoral and an atheist, but this cannot finally be ascertained completely. It would certainly seem, however, that people's low opinion of him was justified by his actions during the rule of the Thirty Tyrants. This association with the oligarchy would eventually lead to his death as he was killed in battle in 403 BCE at Piraeus in the conflict which ended their rule.

Early Life & Rise to Power

Critias was born in Athens, the son of Callaeschrus, a philosopher, poet, and politician. Nothing is known of his early life, but it seems that he followed his father's pursuits and achieved a significant level of success. He first enters the historical record in 415 BCE in an incident related to charges of desecrating the statues of Hermes in Athens, but this is a slight reference, which provides little information on why the charges were brought or what Critias was doing at that time. All that is known about the incident is that Critias was cleared of the charges on the testimony of one Andocines.

By 411 BCE, he may have been involved in the political oligarchy known as the Council of the Four Hundred (or, simply, The Four Hundred), an anti-democratic faction that briefly held power in Athens. His participation in this group's efforts is questioned as it is known that he prosecuted one of its leaders, Phrynichus, posthumously in 410 BCE. Although his prosecution of Phrynichus is often interpreted to mean he opposed the Four Hundred, it is just as likely that, after they fell out of favor, Critias sided with the pro-democracy faction when it was clear they were gaining power.

He was a friend and supporter of the general and statesman Alcibiades (l. c. 451 to c.403 BCE) who played a significant and controversial role in the Second Peloponnesian War (431-404 BCE). When Alcibiades was charged with desecrating the statues of Hermes and also profaning the Eleusinian Mysteries by drinking the sacred Kykeon at a party, Critias followed him into exile in c. 406 BCE. Critias returned to Athens in 404 BCE to again take up a political position as one of the Five Ephors (magistrates) who led the political factions of the emerging oligarchy, which came to be known as the Thirty Tyrants.

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[lumosinlove]

Christmas Eve Will Find Me

One: Sirius

Salazar Headquarters

London, England

“This is the part that you’re not understanding Agent Black.”

Sirius had never been built for the cages of board rooms. Mahogany tables and whiskey glasses. Bottled water placed evenly at each leather chair. Suit and ties, pressed collars and eyeglasses that would show everyone in the room whatever files needed to be seen, privately. Sirius wasn’t build for the glasses, either. He didn’t like seeing the images so close, as if his very own brain had conjured them.

Especially not the one in front of him now. Familiar, but, then again, not at all. A ghost he saw every night, but never like this.

“Why don’t you try again then,” Sirius said to Lucius Malfoy, who sat opposite him, at the other end of the long table. His fair, nearly white hair was tied back low against his neck. Though he stared with dark eyes right at Sirius, they both looked at each other through the image screened in front of them. Through Remus’ brown eyes and bow of a mouth. Sirius was glad no pair of glasses would show the room how hard he was digging his fingernails into his palms below the table.

Malfoy drew an annoyed breath. “Agent Lupin, presumed dead after the Greece incident along with Agent Logan Tremblay—” He glanced to James, who was sitting very still. His usual glasses—a light, airy brown compared to these black frames—folded on the table in front of him. “Is alive.” Malfoy’s long fingers flicked. “For six months, Agent Lupin blinked out. Assumed dead. Now, there he is.”

The photograph had been pulled from a bank security camera in Athens. Remus wore no hat. He carried no bag. Supposedly no weapon, though it was hard to tell and Sirius had never known him to go without one. None of Salazar’s agents ever did.

“Right where we left him, it seems,” Malfoy said. “Greece. Athens.”

“And Logan?” James asked, leaning forward. “I—Agent Tremblay.”

“If we knew anything more, we would have said.” Malfoy had a way with coldness. “Would we have not?”

James said nothing. Sirius felt his stomach twist.

Something in Remus’ face was wrong. It was wrong. He couldn’t place it. Vacant. Shaken. No weapon, no phone. He’d looked nearly right up at the camera. He would never have done that if he was hiding, like Malfoy clearly thought.

“We bring him in.” Sirius’ eyes went to James again, who was looking back this time. “Agent Potter and I will make contact.”

Malfoy just shook his head and laughed. “So confidently said. Tell me this, then. Why did he not bring himself in?”

Sirius couldn’t deny that he had no answer. He couldn’t look away from Remus’ face. Too open. And if he was there in Greece—alive alive alive—where was Logan?

“No contact,” Malfoy said. “You will take a surveillance team. and you will follow him.”

“Follow him?” Sirius shook his head, just as James began to protest, too. “He’s not a target. This is Remus.”

“He is a target as long as I say he is,” Malfoy snapped. “He failed to report. He failed all protocol, and now, suddenly, here he is. Out in the open.”

“You think someone turned him,” James said softly. “That’s—that’s impossible—”

“Nothing is impossible,” said Lestrange from Malfoy’s left. Her curling hair fell elegantly over her wide-shouldered suit, but she was smiling as if this news gave her pleasure. “If he is no longer loyal, you can see why we would need to know, Potter.”

Remus. Remus, who he had thought he had lost. Who he had spent the last six months trying to bury without having a body or a reason. Remus, who he had never even gotten to kiss.

“Find him.” Malfoy arched his fair brows. “Find Lupin, Black.”

“And what?” Sirius said. “You already don’t trust him.”

Malfoy leaned his hands on the table. “If he is what I think he is, then you will kill him.”

+++

Sirius had a flat, but he wouldn’t have called it a home. James, at least, had Lily. Lily and their son, warm bodies and food to come home to, when he came home at all. Now, there was fried egg and ham sandwiches on the stove panini press, quiet jazz playing in the living room in the hopes of keeping the two year old Harry asleep, and Lily standing in front of him pouring whiskey—because he obviously looked like he needed it.

“Alive,” Lily kept saying. She set the bottle down hard. Her tears gained different intensities, but she hadn’t really stopped crying since they had told her. They weren’t supposed to tell her.

She had a dishcloth in one hand that was being used as a tissue, and a greasy spatula in the other. Her dark red hair was tangled, falling out of two braids, and she gave a great sniff before turning back to the stove.

Sirius gave himself a bit more Scotch. He shouldn’t have agreed to come for dinner. He needed to be alone. He needed to sit in his cold, black and gray, expensive as hell, too big penthouse and picture Remus’ face before that security footage.

It was wrong. Something about it was wrong.

“Alive,” Lily said again. “God bloody fuck. Fucking shit.” A sailor, she was, when Harry wasn’t around. She turned on Sirius. “And Malfoy really said—”

“Yes,” Sirius said.

And the sick part was, Sirius could feel the gun in his hand. He could feel how he would do it. Sometimes, Sirius tried to avoid seeing faces, or it simply needed to be done, sneaking up from behind. But he knew Remus’ nape. He knew Remus’ shoulders. Any part of him, any air movement around him, Sirius would know. He felt like he would know his blood. The blood that had been in the sea foam.

“You could never,” Lily said, and took a bite out of a slice of tomato.

He’d never get close enough to get a gun on him from behind. Remus had the instincts of lightning.

“You can’t, he has to know that.”

The second Remus looked at him, Sirius would be finished. Weak muscled and drowning. It didn’t matter what was in his hand, it didn’t matter what Remus had done. It didn’t even matter that he had left Sirius behind and in the dark. Sirius would need him, solid and real.

Lily was watching him silently when James walked into the living room from showering. His dripping hair was getting the neck of his t-shirt wet, and he looked just as grim as Sirius felt. Through the kitchen doorway, he saw him lean over where Harry was sleeping in his crib and reach down to stroke his hair.

“Well,” he said when he took the stool beside Sirius—and some whiskey, too. “Wheels up tomorrow night. We’re taking a red-eye.”

“They called?” Sirius asked.

“Hm.”

“I don’t understand.” Lily slid the sandwiches onto a serving plate and began cutting them in half. She reached for her whiskey and took a long sip, ice clinking. “Jesus. Do you want ice, Sirius?”

Sirius shook his head.

James couldn’t do it, either. Not if it came down to it. But, then again, he would do it just to save Sirius from having to do it. Sirius knew that. And if they found Logan…

“Finn,” Sirius said suddenly. He looked over at James, and Lily made a wounded sound. “We have to tell him.”

James paused from where he was using his shirt to clean water droplets off of his glasses. “Why the fuck would we do that?”

Sirius leaned forward. “Because—”

“One glimpse of Remus doesn’t mean that Logan—”

“But it could.”

“But it doesn’t.”

“But if it had been Logan we were shown on that screen, I would make assumptions about Remus, and I would be glad for that sort of hope.”

James fought through a beat of silence. Lily put a hand on his back. Sirius had seen James’ face in all sorts of ways. Easy, dinner party, happy. Focused, inches from death, or being caught.

“You should tell Leo,” Lily said.

Leo Knut. On their team, too. Hacker. Legend. So fucking young. Could get into absolutely anything.

“He probably already knows,” Sirius said. “Just because he wasn’t at the meeting, doesn’t mean anything. He’s a different department.”

James hesitated a moment before he admitted, “He found the footage.”

“What?” Lily exchanged a surprised look with Sirius.

“Leo,” James said. “He found the footage.”

Sirius sat up. “You mean they were still looking?”

James shook his head. “Not them. Leo.”

Sirius stared at him.

“Just Leo.”

“What…” Sirius swallowed. “Why would he…”

“I asked him to,” James said more quietly. His eyes darted to Lily. “Just…in case. But I’d given up hope months ago.”

It was a very James thing to do. Sirius shouldn’t have been surprised. But the thought of Leo Knut and his soft blue eyes keeping feelers out for two boys who were supposed to be dead made Sirius have to sit down. It was part of his job, sure, but Sirius had spent what felt like an eternity seeing Remus everywhere that he wasn’t. And Leo and Logan had been the closest. He knew how exhausting it was.

“He’ll be on our team, then. When we go.”

James nodded. “I’d say.”

“Good.” Sirius looked down at the sandwich on his plate. “That’s good.”

The next gap of silence was what movies left for something grand and encouraging and sure. We’ll bring them home. I know it. We’ll bring the goddamn love of your life home.

But James and Sirius both knew better.

[pagliaccis-clown]

Loki and Sigyn

A rendition of the Tyrannicides, by Kritios and Nesiotes

[Reuploaded to fix mistakes in the art]

Harmodios and Aristogeiton were two lovers that lived in late 6th Century BC Athens, under the rule of the tyrant Hippias. Hippias’ brother, Hipparchus, was infatuated with Harmodios, and attempted to court him. Harmodios rejected his advances, which infuriated Hipparchus. Using the corrupt power that came with being the tyrants brother, he had Harmodios’ sister publicly disgraced. After this incident, Harmodios and Aristogeiton took matters into their own hands, and assassinated Hipparchus, thus earning the title “The Tyrannicides”. The tyrant killers. Harmodios was killed immediately after, whereas Aristogeiton was tortured before eventually being killed too. Although they themselves did not end tyranny in Athens, their actions lead to the eventual overthrowing of Hippias, and the rise of democracy.