#alcibiades

[kebriones]

Hmmmm Alcibiades being sure Socrates is into him but confused as to why he isn't making a move so he tries giving him every opportunity to do so but Socrates doesn't take any of them so Alcibiades gets frustrated and decides fuck it I'm gonna make the move myself and clarify this situation once and for all and then he basically just throws himself at Socrates like "i will literally do anything for you, you're the only one I want etc" and they cuddle all night but nothing else happens and then Alcibiades is even more confused and angry but he also loves Socrates too much to stop hanging out with him. Where have I heard this story before.

[girlcatilina]

alcibiades

[shortace]

Just on a whim, because I know that Alcibiades is one of the weirdest and funniest characters in ancient Greek history, I asked ChatGPT "What's the weirdest thing Alcibiades ever did?"

ChatGPT came back with the details of something Alcibiades (henceforth referred to as 'Alci' so I don't have to keep typing it out) was accused of, but acquitted of.

When I pointed out that he had been acquitted and may not have actually done this thing, Chat GPT apologised and said, "yes, he was acquitted", and then went on to tell me that, nonetheless, the event was significant because it made Alci flee the city.

Alci did not flee the city, he was sent away on a military expedition, which was exactly what he'd wanted and asked for. When I pointed that out, ChatGPT apologised again for being wrong.

I asked again for weird things he might actually have done, and was told one version of a story I've heard before about how Alci stole some stuff from a friend. ChatGPT's version was different from what I'd heard, though, so I mentioned that, and only then did ChatGPT acknowledge that there were different versions of the story. As part of its apology and correction, ChatGPT said that it did not always have access to all information - but then proceeded to provide details of the version of the story I'd heard before, showing that it did, in fact, have access to that information.

I asked again, what is the weirdest thing Alcibiades ever did? ChatGPT gave me an answer, which was a story I'd never heard before, so I asked for a source. ChatGPT told me it was in Plutarch's Lives, and I presumed it was in his Life of Alcibiades, so that's where I looked. When I said I couldn't find it there, ChatGPT told me, sorry for not being specific, it was actually in Plutarch's Life of Nicias. So I went and read Plutarch's Life of Nicias and couldn't find it.

So I told ChatGPT that I couldn't find the story in that book, could it please be more specific? What I was hoping for was a chapter or page number or something, I just presumed I'd missed it.

ChatGPT came back with "no, actually it's not in that book, it may be a later invention, there is no concrete evidence for this story."

TL;DR: ChatGPT cannot be trusted. Even when it does give you a source, it can be wrong. It has no capacity to evaluate the accuracy or likely accuracy of the information it gives you. It will present you with wrong or debatable information and give you absolutely no indication that it may not be correct, or that other versions or interpretations are possible.

[beluosus]

[nateconnolly]

Alcibiades, you absolutely don't have time to mope about not being in old man yaoi. The heads of the gods have been fucking mutilated.

[master-of-the-stars]

Taking care of Al

[grumfield]

everyone says enkidu and Gilgamesh is the world’s first yaoi but like. They’re the world’s first romance novel. I’m afraid the first yaoi, like specifically YAOI is Socrates and Alcibiades

[softestaries]

no one i know irl would appreciate this

[scribl1ta]

Bro look at my general😭🤦we are NOT making it to Sicily

[ditoob]

Happy pride y’all

[kebriones]

And that he was a power­ful speaker, not only do the comic poets testify, but also the most power­ful of the orators himself,​ who says, in his speech "Against Meidias," that Alcibiades was a most able speaker in addition to his other gifts. And if we are to trust Theophrastus, the most versatile and learned of the philosophers, Alcibiades was of all men the most capable of discovering and understanding what was required in a given case. But since he strove to find not only the proper thing to say, but also the proper words and phrases in which to say it; and since in this last regard he was not a man of large resources, he would often stumble in the midst of his speech, come to a stop, and pause a while, a particular phrase eluding him. Then he would resume, and proceed with all the caution in the world.

(from plutarch's life of alcibiades)

[becauseitwasi]

insane man insane

[whatifwekilledgodandwebothgirls]

I really and trully want people to understand that socrates was a CUNT . You know that whole " i know one thing that i know nothing"? Yeah that was because he got a litteral prophecy saying hes the smartest man in the world by GOD HIMSELF . God himself said " youre so clever " and socrates imidiet responce was " no actually fuck you im stupid as shit " JUST SO HE CAN HAVE THE FINAL WORD with and i cannot stress this enough GOD HIMSELF . He wanted to talk back to god so he made this elaborate plan to find ways to call himself stupid . They were right i would have killed him over that too

[neutralferal]

rip alcibiades you would've been a star at pride

[thoodleoo]

one of the funniest things about alcibiades is that he had a fruity ass shield made for himself out of gold and decorated with cupid slinging a thunderbolt and everyone hated it so much for it

[master-of-the-stars]

I can never forget them