#tw restriction talk

[and-yet-the-daisies-grow]

Tw: eating disorder talk, unhealthy weight loss, restriction talk, body checking talk

Hooray :D i managed to eat my caloric intake for the day :)) I was very tempted to eat less, because I wasnt super hungry, but I didnt give into that, because it would only cause stronger hunger cravings tomorrow. Weirdly enough, I can already feel the slightest difference in my upper neck, since its been a few days. Again, the very very slightest lol. Im pretty damn proud of myself :)) I hope I can handle eating more soon, since the current calorie limit is too low for me. But oh well, this is what I can manage right now, and thats enough for me.

I played with my cats today :D It was really fun :)) their energy is absolutely boundless. I love em very, very much <3 <3 <3

[ms-demeanor]

Nutrition science IS a mess largely because a huge number of food and weight loss studies are limited by "how long can we reasonably expect this study group to eat only what we're feeding them" and "how many people can we reasonably include in this study when it needs to be local and the participants need to meet XYZ standards" and then you ALSO have the problem of people p-hacking the research and the whole thing is a nightmare but it's a nightmare in the same way that a LOT of science relating to humans is a nightmare because humans are fucking hard to study.

Like, yeah, obviously a fucking 8-week study of how effective keto is for weight loss isn't going to provide a ton of useful information but like how the fuck else are you going to study it and have high compliance to a notoriously hard-to-comply with diet???????

"Good" studies tend to be short because they have to be to prevent participants from quitting the diet OR because twelve weeks is probably the longest time you can reasonably expect people to stay at an inpatient facility where their food is 100% controlled by researchers unless you're willing to pay them A LOT which you can't do unless your fucking study is funded by fucking coca cola and creating a massive conflict of interest.

What this means is that we should be very narrow in what we take away from these studies and shouldn't generalize them to a broad population, not that the studies are inherently bullshit.

[ftm4lnutr1ti0n]

3dtwt and 3dblr are all so aesthetic where are my absolute trash goblins?!

[sweatystarvingrat]

grimes thinspo

its ironic dwr

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‼️ content warning for talking about (necessary, healthy) food restrictions ‼️

Please don’t be rude about somebody’s dietary restrictions.

Sometimes people don’t even notice it in the little comments about how gross vegan food is, how bad for you dairy-free milks are, how everything gluten-free tastes like cardboard…people don’t choose their food intolerances!!!!

I have to use a lot of substitutes for MEDICAL REASONS, and I’ve had people tell me to my face how gross that is. Vegan cheese tastes like glue. Oh, you have to try a gluten free diet? That’s so trendy now, but really you don’t have to. The food is so bland.

I do have to, actually. It’s discouraging to hear how inferior your food is when there’s no other option!!!!! Please try to be considerate of people’s non-negotiable needs.

Also don’t be mean to people who do choose their own dietary specifications, that should go without saying. Be considerate and respectful of what people have to eat!!!

With love, if nobody is practicing unsafe or dangerous eating habits, mind your business ❤️

[alwaysshadypirate]

The best and the most motivating quotes

(you could either use them to keep restricting or avoid binging)

• Overeating is always a decision nobody forces your hand to pick up the food and put it in your mouth

• You may not be there yet,but you're closer than you were yesterday

• You are what you eat

• What you eat in private is what you wear in public

•don't listen to your inner fatty she's an evil bitch,tryna make you Fat.

• Don't ever stop trying.because one day you will be thin.

• İf you go back to eating normal, you'll have a normal body again.

• Don't give up what you want the most for what you want right now.

• you ate yourself to this weight now you can starve your way out.

• İt is better to resist than it is to regret.

• Comfort foods won't comfort you when you hate what you see in the mirror.

• Because the pain of looking in the mirror hurts more than starving.

• Fat lasts longer than Flavor.

• This month's choices are next month's body.

• Snack you've craved for an hour or the body you've craved for a lifetime?

• Look down at your plate and ask:is this going to make me feel good?

• Do not use your stomach as a trashcan.

• Do it now or regret it later? Remember tomorrow you will thank yourself.

• STOP! you're probably just experiencing emotional hunger or cravings if you eat you will only hurt yourself.

• All food is allowed,you just need to simply choose not to eat to get to your goals.

• You're not going to let the food ruin your life anymore,are you?

• Without struggle there is no progress.

• Food was made to provide you with energy not to fcking entertain you.

• Skinny girls look good in clothes fit girls look good naked.

• İt is all fun and games until your jeans don't fit anymore.

• the skinnier,the better.

[old-habits-that-give-control]

ROMANTICISING ED

I understand why we do it.

It's a way to deal with it and not feel as miserable as we would if we couldn't romanticise it.

But if you are someone who actually WANTS to have an ed or thinks it's a way to just loose weight fast,

Let me tell you about the experiences I had so far these past weeks because of my ed.

(for context I don't have it since day one but it's kind of a weird thing where it started when I was like 12 and every few years my ed comes back worse than before)

My experiences:

- the feeling when seeing I dropped weight is rewarding

- looking in the mirror and starting to actually enjoy what I see

- saving money with groceries

- having to eat less to get full because the stomach will get smaller if you eat less for a while

- looking at other people wishing that was me

- looking in the mirror and acknowledging that I am not fat but too fat for my liking

- afraid of social events where I am supposed to have fun because there is gonna be a meal to eat together

- afraid to visit my boyfriend who I love dearly because his parents will feed me

- afraid to visit my parents and family because I am scared I won't be able to avoid getting fed. Same with visiting friends

- had a fight with my boyfriend because I refused to eat the food we usually eat together when we can see each other because it has too many calories.

- drinking alcohol and purposefully purging because I feelt bad about the calories(also to avoid a hangover) and I ended up throwing up blood

- gaining weight again despite everything and feeling like a failure even tho it's completely normal. Your body won't always weight the same at any time of the day

- not being able to go on cute ice-cream or restaurant dates with my boyfriend...

- I can't eat bread... I know this sounds like nothing. But I live in Germany and rarely really appreciated a good bread with butter or a simple small block of cheese. It got so bad I cryed today because I am too scared to eat bread even tho my heart misses it so much.

- having no appetite but being in pain because of an empty stomach.

- stomach and brain being confused. Starving at one moment and feeling numb the other moment.

- experiencing nightmares about being heavier than I actually am

- being scared shirtless about loosing my hair because since I was small I was always proud of my thick Hispanic hair. Loosing that would be like loosing a part of me. (I once shaved my hair off and I didn't mind but there is a difference between shaving it off and actually going bald with no return)

I am not trying to pull you away from anything. That is not my place.

If you suffer from an ed I am sorry and I hope you will be able to recover when you are ready for it. I know recovery can only happen if you are ready for it and not be forced.

And if you just want to loose weight "the easy way" or something please think about the alternatives you have.

[abyssal-debonair]

Some of yall hate trans men so much that you’ll hurt the very same trans women you oh so claim to protect while also throwing intersex and nonbinary folk under the bus.

If you’d actually listen to what we’re saying rather than wail “misandry doesn’t exist you transandorks have privilege,” maybe yall understand how you are oroborusing yourselves and this whole community.

[chickensoup1025]

Ron Swanson accurately portrays the ARFID experience

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But seriously as someone with Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder, this scene was always painfully relatable to me. We never see arfid shown in media cause... well, it's not super common or well-known and it isn't as talked about at all even in the day-to-day life of someone with it. So. Anyway, yeah here's Ron struggling to open up his diet.

[lolitaondrugsssss]

September October will be our month!!! ⋆୨୧⠀

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[and-yet-the-daisies-grow]

Tw: weight talk, gender dysphoria, unhealthy weight loss talk, dont read if you struggle with food

I want to lose weight again. The way I am right now makes me extremely dysphoric and pushes me to restrict or fast, and I know I shouldnt. Its not healthy and its not okay. So, Im trying to be responsible about my weight loss, but still pursue it. I am currently slightly overweight, so Im not going to go underweight by any means. I just want to look the way I did before. My thighs are so thick and it makes me feel really, really bad, and my belly and back have rolls. My face is too pudgy and I just feel suffocated by myself.

I know it wont make me look like a man and I know I have to take hormones for that to happen, but I just cant stand being in such a womanly body. Its just so wrong, and its difficult to be around others too, because I just keep thinking about how they see me as a woman. Also, I want it to be a bit easier to bind lol.

So Im trying to be consistent with the amount of calories I consume and eat in a deficit. To be honest, the deficit is too big, but I cant help it right now. I will increase it once I see some changes, which should be in a week or so. Im also doing some workouts which is also making me feel better about my body :) I missed strength training to be honest. I did it for many years but stopped when I quit a sport about 2 years ago. And its nice to start feeling strong again. I want to build faith that my body can change before I up my calorie limit. Otherwise, I know Im going to go back into a binge restrict cycle and I really dont want to do that. I feel so peaceful these days and I dont want to ruin it. I need to feel okay at least for a bit to build my hope back up.

Also, Im finally consuming more proteins :D I started drinking protein shakes and they really do make a huuugee difference in my hunger levels, and I also find that my muscles are less sore than they used to be when I trained without eating enough of them. Stupid of me, I know, but I just felt like I would be a fraud if I couldnt build up muscle “naturally” (the fact that I thought eating enough protein would make it unnatural is fucking hilarious to me rn tbh).

Although, protein shakes are so gross!!! Im getting used to the flavour but jesus fucking christ, it tastes like some weird medicine lmao. I get less of that feeling every day though, so I hope that means I will one day be like “oh goodie a protein shake”. Now Im just like “okay dude, you gotta do it. Its not so bad, just chug it” lmao. At least its not bitter 0_0 Otherwise I would really struggle with it lol.

I have some chronic illnesses and whenever one of them starts to physically disable me, I take a suuuper bitter pill, and even then I have to lowkey force myself to do it, even though I know that I will be in a lot of pain if I dont lol.

[ms-demeanor]

Going off that post about nutrition and science, I'd love to hear what you think of the 5:2 diet/The Fast 800 and its creator, Dr. Michael Mosley. For context: in order to get an NHS-funded breast reduction (it's a gender thing, but also just a general quality-of-life thing), I need to be a certain BMI, so I've been referred to a weight management clinic. The lady I've been seeing initially just put me on a low-carb diet (130g or less of carbs per day, with an aside from her about how bullshit Keto and BMI limits for treatment are), but now she's said that, if I wanted to speed up the weight loss, I should include the 5:2 diet: 5 days in a week where I eat "normally", and 2 fast days in which I restrict myself to 800kcals. I did a little looking into it myself, and found that 5:2 - which I HAD heard about before - is now being sold as part of "The Fast 800", with Dr. Mosley being the creator of it. I was shocked by that, because I was already a fan of Dr. Mosley's work (he has a podcast called "Just One Thing" that I really liked, and thought contained reasonable-sounding advice), and yet having a diet plan that he's clearly making money off of does immediately make me feel suspicious. I've borrowed his "The Fast 800" book from the library, both to find out more about the diet I've been put on and to see if it's at all backed by evidence, and he does cite a bunch of scientific studies which seem to back up his ideas, but I don't know how valid they are, and I don't just want to accept them at face-value (especially since he's a "we got fat completely wrong in the 80s, therefore we should eat a Mediterranean diet!" types). Obviously I'll go with what my weight management lady suggests, since she's obviously more qualified to talk about it than I am, but I am curious to know what you think, and whether I'm right to be distrustful of all of this.

I am, generally speaking, against any diet for rapid weight loss. They're not sustainable so people gain the weight back (often with more weight getting added on).

There have also recently been findings that suggest that BMI cutoffs for top surgery are detrimental to patients as patients in higher BMI categories are more likely to have minor complications like UTIs or to be readmitted, but are not likely to have major complications or be at risk of significant harm from having top surgery. I don't know if anybody will listen if you bring up that study, and I know that GCS is fraught in many places for many reasons.

I'm also just.

I'm so mad. I'm so fucking mad! I'm so mad about this!

One of my best friends is a guy who was pressured into a pattern of disordered eating and unhealthy exercise in order to qualify for top surgery; since then he has not been able to eat in a healthy way and has struggled with alternating between exercising to the point of harm and other destructive behaviors that make him unhappy and unsafe. And he didn't need that. He didn't need any of that! He needed a very safe surgery that had perhaps a slightly higher risk of minor complications at his size and instead he got top surgery and an eating disorder! I hate it! I'm so fucking mad about it!

Also as near as I can tell Michael Mosley qualified as a psychiatrist in the 90s, spent very little time working as a psychiatrist, and then became a media personality. From what is visible on his website and every biography I've found for him he apparently doesn't have any background in nutrition beyond whatever is standard for someone in medical school (which is NOT MUCH).

Hey I just looked at his website and this is straight-up fucked up.

Anybody recommending an 800 calorie a day diet for 2-12 weeks in a context that is not heavily medically supervised can fucking choke. That is *ridiculously* dangerous and the website says that this can improve insulin resistance but there are a shitload of studies about people on crash diets like this *developing* insulin resistance (oh hey like my friend who became prediabetic after his rapid significant weight loss).

Also in regard to the studies he cites on the website, the "two years later patients are still going strong in their diabetes improvements" it's really important to put shit like that in context

at 5 years 13% of the original intervention group were in remission from their type two diabetes; the average weight loss experienced by the intervention group as a whole was 6.1kg compared to 4.6kg in the control group. That's 1.5kg lower for the people who went through a twelve week medically supervised very low calorie diet compared. That's an average difference of 3.3 pounds between "starvation diet" and "no diet" for the Americans in the audience.

Yours is the second comment I've seen that has been leery of the Mediterranean diet, btw, and the Mediterranean diet is fine. It's very achievable and not super gimmicky and is based on very reasonable reassessments of fat, not the hardcore "you are fine to eat 100g of fat a day" kind of attitude that you get from the keto crew. There isn't really one Mediterranean diet and it certainly isn't low carb (which the bits from Mosely's website seem to indicate it is).

So, no, honestly I don't think much of Mosely and I'm very sorry you're in this situation, that sucks and I hate that they're refusing you treatment until you undergo an exceptionally difficult and potentially harmful weight loss excursion.

I know you're probably stuck with that and it's bullshit and I think it fucking sucks and unfortunately the medical advice you're likely to get is "eat in a significantly disordered manner at least until it is time for surgery" and it blows. That just fucking sucks.

If you're looking for rapid weight loss that you don't plan to sustain (and you shouldn't plan to sustain it, it won't stay off) you may want to look into body building forums for how they discuss cuts. It's still disordered eating and it's still not healthy, but at least they're effective and can tell you what supplements will keep you from becoming malnourished while you prepare for surgery. This is a terrible idea. I don't actually want to give this advice to anyone but bodybuilders are the exact kind of people who know how far and how fast they can push weight loss while having an awareness that it isn't really good for them and it won't stay off.

I cannot overstate enough how much I hate the thought that people are being encouraged to rapidly starve themselves in order to prepare to recover from surgery. I am so sorry and I'm so mad and

[x-aki-tsuki-x]

When someone asks what my coping mechanisms are..

In other words I'm not coping please excuse my flaming dumpster existence thank you.

[cherrycokeandkisses]

The day I can wear Brandy Melville clothes without them looking small/too tight on me is the day I will feel more accomplished than ever.

For those of you who don’t know, Brandy Melville is a Swiss/American clothing brand that only sells one size clothing. Most clothes are tiny and you need to be skinny to wear them. (i hate that they are not size inclusive, but thats a different topic for another time)

[th1nblogs]

guys these things are sooooo yummy if youre craving ice cream theyre only 100 calories per cup (maybe more depending on the flavor, definitely less than 200) and there are multiple flavors i looooove them sooooo much 100% recommend

also $3 for 6 cups? like cmon cant pass up a deal

[binnielinnie]

Guys is it crazy to not heat my apartment just so i can freeze and loose more cals that way, or am i a genius