#transphobia in the tags

[grinchwrapsupreme]

my dad is the kind of person who makes fun of things (mental illness, gender, sexuality, etc) until he encounters it at a close enough proximity to actually think of it as a real thing at which point he’s totally normal about it forever which means I get the honour of gently guiding him through conversations about Vico Ortiz now that he’s discovered they’re nonbinary in the same way a bull is gently guided out of a grenade-strewn china shop

[trash-and-trash-accessories]

I do want to note that the whole "women are allowed to dress masculine and wear trousers" thing needs to be viewed in its historical context:

People fought for generations to be allowed to dress that way. They fought hard to be allowed to wear pants. Blue jeans were a symbol of feminist revolution. Women were barred from workplaces and schools for wearing them.

This is not some a natural fact that women dressing masculine is less shocking and humiliating. That normalization was fought for and hard-won.

And yet so many people erase the struggles of those people who fought to make that happen and pretend that it's just normal and natural that people don't see women "dressed like men" as ridiculous.

The Marriage of Figaro has what's called a "breeches role" which is a woman wearing men's clothes playing am ale role. This was done partly due to the vocal range requirements, but in many cases it was done comedically. It was risque and sexualized or comic relief that a woman was dressed as a man.

Anti-suffragette posters mock women wearing pants - well they were bloomers and split skirts back then - and mocking more masculine cut styles of clothes. This was meant to portray this as ridiculous.

They mocked the "new woman" in Weimar Germany, lamenting that they were too masculine.

This is a political cartoon from the 1920s depicting a woman in masculine dress deciding which bathroom to use:

Sorry but you're erasing these struggles and flattening history when you say this shit.

Women were killed and institutionalized in the struggle to make this happen. It really fucking bothers me the way it's framed as "people just don't find it as weird when women dress masculine."

Yes they fucking did. Until women and transmasculine people fought for their right to wear what they want. It's normalized because people struggled to normalize it.

And it's not normal everywhere. There are many countries where it's still illegal for women to wear pants. Afghanistan, for example.

Even in the US, it's forbidden and considered ridiculous in groups like the FLDS, the Amish, and the Hutterites.

We are flattening and erasing the struggles of women when we say these things. I know we're trying to build theory here but you can't build solid theory on a foundation of lies.

[marshmellowtea]

i desperately need people to realize there's a difference between "women need to coddle (cis) men's feelings even when they're being misogynistic uwu" and "we shouldn't tolerate misogyny but actively keeping men separate from women and treating them like they're inherently dangerous to women is only going to worsen the problem (and also this mindset causes IMMEASURABLE harm to nonbinary, trans, and intersex people, who are already incredibly at risk right now)" and i need people to realize that NOW

[modify-and-sever]

if gender is what's in my pants then my gender is YOUR MOM lol anyway yeah I heard you're nonbinary do you have a penis. are you girl agender or boy agender. are you girl nonbinary or boy nonbinary. you have multiple genders but like are you more girl or boy. ok you're neither but are you more boy or girl. no haha I get it like no gender lol but seriously do you have a penis. is it a boy penis or a girl penis. it's honestly really weird that you don't want to answer this question honestly I'm just going to assume you have a dangerous male penis and tell all my friends that you're a bad person

[socialistexan]

There is no more quiet part, they are just fully saying out loud that they think trans people even existing in public is a harm to children akin to sexual violence.

I'm so tired of liberals telling me over and over and over again that I need to just reach out and talk to these people. They see my very existence as a sex crime, they think I need to be exterminated out of public life and then exterminated for real. These are fucking fascists. I'm so tired of being a rhetorical chip used to shame others, I'm sure you'll feel smug satisfaction over your conservative uncle that you were right while he's carting us off.

I'm sorry, there is no bridge to bring us to a middle ground between "I think I have the right to exist" and "I think your very existence is a crime" that doesn't end poorly for me.

There is no hand I can reach out without getting pulled by that hand straight down 6 feet under to my grave.

[foone]

If the transmasc artist is canceled for drawing a pregnant trans man, would he get TWICE AS CANCELED if he drew a trans man pregnant with twins?

[biwrites]

I think queer people as a community will do a LOT of healing once we accept that our experiences aren’t neatly divided into identity boxes.

Transfems and transmascs share experiences

Binary and non-binary trans people share experiences

Trans and intersex people share experiences

Cis and trans people share experiences

Lesbians and bi people share experiences

Gay men and bi people share experiences

Bi and pan people share experiences

Lesbians and gay men share experiences

Monosexual and mspec people share experiences

Asexuals and allosexuals share experiences

And YES, these include “[identity] specific experiences”

Your experiences are colored by the other factors in your life as well such as race, class, and disability status.

In other words: these things aren’t neat and clear cut, once we stop trying to divide ourselves and deny our siblings solidarity when they try to build it, we can get a lot of shit done

[jingerpi]

meaningful work: transgender experience in the sex trade

[ankles-be-bitten]

idk, i just feel like if your primary argument against transandrophobia/antitransmasculinity theory is that you think it's transmisogynistic you're not being intellectually honest. who does it hurt when trans men and mascs coin a term to describe the intersection of transphobia and sexism as it most frequently affects them? because it does hurt trans men when they're told that they're not entitled to speak on the discrimination they themselves face.

what I'm hearing from people who oppose the antitransmasculinity movement is that transmisogyny is when trans men talk about their problems 👍, but obviously that's not true. i know that's not true. you know that's not true. so then what is the issue? genuinely, enlighten me. you want trans men to shut up and listen? I'm listening.

[shalom-iamcominghome]

If even acknowledging antisemitism within your community spaces is going to "distract from the cause," maybe that's because the foundation of your beliefs comes down to antisemitism. What you're doing is telling on yourself.

[leotheloaf]

Hi, y’all, in the coming years it is more important than EVER that we have a strong queer community.

What we ARENT gonna be doing, is forming separatist movements, or rekindling old ones, or dogpiling each other over who “gets the right to speak” about their own oppression. We ARENT gonna be throwing the most “unpalatable” queers under the bus to try to appeal to cis/het/allo people. We ARENT gonna be abandoning our trans and nonbinary siblings. We ARENT gonna be abandoning our intersex siblings, and we A R E going to be INCLUDING them in our activism. Respectability politics gets us nowhere. Infighting gets us nowhere. Separatism gets us NOWHERE. Shape tf up y’all

[cl0ckworkqueerness]

i think people should be more vocal about intersexism, actually, even if they're perisex. especially if they're perisex, actually.

to perisex trans people, they really only see "discrimination based on someone's assigned sex or expected gender" as a transphobia thing. it's not. because the idea that someone should have one immutable "typical" sex, either male or female, that corresponds with gender roles, expectations, and likenesses is also the foundation upon which intersexism is built.

sex is a complicated subject, and i don't know how much i don't know about it. but what i do know is that it's deeper than just "male and female, penis and vagina, sperm and eggs, XY and XX" that a lot of people tend to push or subconsciously adopt. yes, even within the trans community. as trans people, we should be well aware of not only the complexities of gender, but of sex as well.

the reality is, many of the things we as a community say "never happens" (i.e. forcibly transitioning children with hormones, surgeries, etc. against their will) does happen to intersex kids for no other reason than cosmetics and "making them look Normal".

a lot of intersex people are not cis. a lot of intersex people experience gender dysphoria. so many resources about intersex people, so many people talking about intersex people, only gloss over them, pay them lip service, use them to talk about unrelated issues, or straight up treat them as diseased, disordered people to be cured. hell, even the second source I cited uses the term "disorders of sexual development".

this would be unfathomable if it were happening to any other group, but somehow this rage does not carry over for intersex people. and i think it should carry over, actually.

this is only scratching the surface. hell, this is barely even that.

all i ask of you is to keep your ears and eyes open to intersex experiences, especially when you're discussing sex and gender. keep your language as open and inclusive as possible.

[claratyler]

the thing we need to understand is that the pope is not at all pro-lgbt rights in anyway. Does he oppose violenece/hate as a blanket sort of core belief? Yes, so this includes violence and hate towards a queer person. But that doesnt mean he believesthat being queer is something to be celebrated, let alone acceptable.

Does he say any gay person can join in the mass? Yes, as a blanket sort of core belief because christianity is supposed to be for everyone, and nobody, regardless of their moral failings (such as being queer, which IS regarded as a moral failing), should be turned away from participating in the holy rituals or getting close to God.

The thing you need to understand about modern day catholics is that many of them will look you in the face and say "Being gay is not a bad thing. We all have temptations we have to stay clear off. It's not the fact that you have this inclination that defines you, it's whether you choose to engage by thought and/or action instead of actively suppressing it that we look down upon." And then they'll tell you in a way they think is kind and helpful that they know a person who can help with treating that.

"The pope now accepts trans people!" Are you sure. Are you really sure

How do you think this is going to fare in reality when the parameters for this "acceptance" are "pastoral prudence" and "public scandal" and "educational disorientation".

Also, on gay people:

This is literally what i was saying: A gay person who represses their inclinations is what they mean by leading a life that conforms to the faith. Thats why a gay person in a gay relationship/marriage (which btw gay marriage is not existent in the roman catholic church, the very notion is a contradiction in their eyes) could not be eligible.

And why do i know allthis and why am i ranting about this? Because #CatholicUniTrauma and im tired of people misunderstanding how fucked up the entire catholic church is because of misleading headlines or quotes taken out of context. The pope is not woke. Seriously.

quoted article: The New York Times' "Vatican Says Transgender People Can Be Baptized and Become Godparents" by Jason Horowitz, Elisabetta Povoledo, and Ruth Graham. Published Nov 9 2023 (tumblr wont let me paste the link for some reason)

[pinkhairswagtourney]

my friend harmony is a disabled trans lesbian who was recently kicked out twice by transphobic relatives and friends . she’s been applying for jobs but she hasn’t had any luck yet . she currently has no source of income and nowhere to rest her head at night except her car , and it’s been below freezing where she lives . 

this is ongoing and will be ongoing until further notice – she needs money to eat , to fill her car with gas , and to rent a hotel room . even a few dollars would help her so much at this point . if you can’t help monetarily , please please boost this post !! i am so worried about her , this has been going on for over a month and she isn’t doing well ]:

p-yp-l ( her only way of receiving money rn )

[bi-sapphics]

so, assuming we all know about how biphobes like to say bi women who date other women try to make them more like men since what they really want is a boyfriend, as well as how transphobes like to infantilize trans men in order to argue against their existence, i'm reluctantly here to tell you that TERFs have taken a new step with integrating these sentiments on twitter today:

link for context

that's right, you read correctly! the ones who are now pressuring our young girls (usually GNC lesbians) into mutilating their bodies are none other than... bi women! because that totally makes sense!

anyway, bi women & trans men need to stick together more than ever. 🤝 the rest of the queer community hates us both endlessly and we have a lot of overlap in that our issues aren't taken seriously enough. as a transmasc bisexual myself, this is the only true way.

[vitunrunollista]

so I've seen there be talk about the word theyfab and how it's used and what it means and I just wanted to put this out here in case someone tries to use the wictionary article as proof that it's not strongly tied to dismissing a section of nonbinary people as nothing but trenders. wiktionary currently defines "theyfab" as follows:

This is the result of a couple of recent edits:

both of these are from April this year

Now the first editor says they've edited it to better match how the term is used colloquialy, but that being the sole definition does NOT reflect it's colloquial use, because this is a huge part of the term's history as well as current use:

We gain nothing by pretending this isn't there.

Also in case anyone saw the mention of race traitor in the edit log and got curious about what that's about, it's in reference to this removed additional definition:

which had been added to the article on the same day it was removed (November 30th 2023).