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Shower thoughts on the family structure
Despite its current dominance, the single-income household has never been viable on a mass scale, outside of a few decades in the West, due largely to imperialism extracting massive amounts of wealth from the rest of the world combined with technological monopolies which have since lapsed.
Historically, in households where there was one 'breadwinner' and one 'homemaker,' it was because child labor allowed it to be so, because the industry of the household (the breadwinning) was linked into the domesticity: if you were a freeholder farmer, growing your food, farming, what we would now think of as a job, was in the same class of labor as cooking and cleaning, it was all part of the same system, we did not think of one as a job and the other as not. So, as children are often expected to help out around the house today, children back then would be expected to help out in the other productive endeavors of the household, like farming, or other forms of work. And children didn't typically go to school. They started working with their parents from a very young age.
So you hear a lot of complaints about how difficult it is to maintain a single income household, it's because when children are present, they are being freeloaders, generally; all of the labor they would have done to contribute to the household is offloaded solely onto the parents. And when they are not present, well, that was never very achievable in the first place with one person not earning bread, right?
We switched to a system where children do not work but we did not accomodate the switch to that system by altering the family structure to include a higher amount of laborers per household, which would necessitate a higher amount of adults living together for the family unit than just one man one woman. And we got away with it for a long time because of competitive advantages provided by imperialism, the industrial revolution, and so on.
That is coming to an end, and people are finding out that having kids is now a miserable experience that often makes your life worse, because of the financial and time burdens now associated with shepherding someone through the legal and social structures constraining and defining 'childhood.'
It doesn't have to be, though. We can envision alternative household and family structures that make that burden much less intensive. For instance, instead of marriage, some alternative structure in which a group of best friends bind themselves together and agree to live with each other in a shared household, which future spouses and children are incorporated into. (repping Terra Ignota here)
Such a structure could have one homemaker and three breadwinners because the duties typically assigned to homemakers have been made much easier than previous by technology. After spouses are incorporated in, you could even have a division between homemaker and educator, with one person whose sole job in the household of ~8 adults + however many kids is cleaning, and one person who is solely dedicated to day to day parenting and schooling. And in this structure it doesn't really matter how many people in society are gay or trans or in relationships that will otherwise not produce children because every household will probably have at least one straight couple and they can have as many kids as the household can bear if they want, which is the same amount of kids as a household with 4 straight couples.
Also a necessary comment here about how abusive the pre-industrialization family unit often was, being a child often meant being forced to work on the threat of extreme physical abuse or starvation if you did not. That was not good. Returning to that would not be good. We need something new.
#the family#family structure#towards a better future#to create something you must first dream it#shower thoughts#original#terra ignota
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Babysitting duty calls, Klarion
It another world threatening battle for the justice league, young justice against the league of Villains and chaos children before most of the chaos children froze as if they sense something bad was approaching and immediately dipped out.. except klarion whom was fighting with raven who immediately froze up too late in front of the portal.
Only for a green portal to appear, as a worned out floating glowing green, but blue skinned teenage boy who turn into a man with red eyes, a clock staff in hand and a glowing white hair baby in a baby carrier.
Klarion is literally struggling like a feral cat who got wet in cold water against some invisible force speaking in some odd static like language before giving up after half a minute when the man spoke back with a short word.
The man now just shape-shifting into turn elderly just gave klarion the baby carrier before noticing how the heroes and villains have stop in mid battles looking at both klarion and him.
"All in soon time, but be warn Flashes whom break the laws of times will get their due if you keep messing with the past and future." Spoken the elderly now shape-shifted into a young boy before he turn back to klarion leaving him a note and glowing baby bag before floating back into the swirling green portal.
Klarion could only look at note with his eye twitching, Teekl meowing as she climb into the baby carrier purring around the glowing baby.
"Why do I keep getting babysitting duty, it so unfa-..." klarion grumbled as he pick up the baby carrier and bag teleporting away..
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"What just happened?" Said Dick whom only one question would be put on hold til later in the watchtower of what just happen before the fight resuming with the young and original justice league winning since the league of Villains were distracted.
#dp x dc crossover#danny is the ghost king#danny phantom#dpxdc#dc x dp#dc x dp prompt#de aged danny#klarion the witch boy#klarion doesn't want babysitting duty after the last time#sadly he unable to avoid his fate in time#clockwork is a overworked tired papa who want a break from raising his de-aged balance of world godling who just got reborn after his death#he just want a break and a nap but he don't trust the observants for nothing after the supposedly last incident that will never come in time#the chaos children don't want babysitting duty again and avoid it like the plague#klarion is secretly a softie toward this lil being of balance but he has a reputation to hold that got shattered instantly#after Danny's death of old age then he become godling of balance of the infinite realms but he need to be raise to control his powers#whoms better to babysit the godling of balance then the chaos children who can have to cause chaos to keep the balance in check#chaos is keep balance in check while balance keep chaos from spreading depending on the luck#clockwork picks klarion as the best stable babysitter after viewing potential futures if he were to choose the other chaos children instead#clockwork is the big badass time god and the chaos children respect but mostly fear him#young justice#justice league
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I'm sorry but James Vowles criticising how Red Bull has treated their drivers in the past, only to go and then treat Logan far worse while pulling the exact same shit Red Bull did, ie the exact behaviour he criticised and called them out for, is so freaking infuriating like the sheer hypocrisy -
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#f1#formula 1#formula one#james vowles#logan sargeant#best of luck to logan in the future & to franco#but james its on sight#rooting for franco because he's being thrown straight into the deep end#like Singapore of all races will be his third f1 race#and as i said when it was announced daniel was leaving mclaren & oscar was getting the seat#it's never the drivers at fault for a teams shitty behaviour towards a driver#the hypocrisy from james is just leaving a very bad taste in my mouth#edit: also infuriating that of the latest batch of rookies oscar & yuki are the last ones standing#zhou currently has no confirmed seat#they're the only rookies of the past 4 years left#mick has no seat#nicolas latifi has gone back to business school which good for you nicky i hope you're doing well#sorry but i went back to university in 2023 too so i feel a kinship with him lmao#less said about that nameless haas driver the better#nyck is the endurance championship now i think#i dont think I'm missing anybody
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â Tim & Lucy âł 2x01 - Impact
#jesuis-assez edits: chenford#jesuis-assez edits: chenford scenes 2x01#đ€ŁLove it. Look at him staring her down.#Sir... That's your future wife.#2x01 hits different now that we have some more insight into Tim's past.#To see him so pressed here because she didn't report him.#He's seeing himself in her choice to not report him. His past self.#He's got the emotional walls back up and she's only going to tear them down again.#Darting his eyes back and forth with hers and that .. JAW CLENCH đI love those jaw clenches. Is this affecting you Tim? đ€#In more ways than one. Her being kind to him in light of him knowing this#Catapulting his mind back to the person 'he used to be' and how hard he has tried to shake that choice he made all those years ago.#How hard he has tried to redeem all of that for it to come crashing back in the form of his rookie who was trying to protect him.#Because she's supposed to be different from him. She's supposed to be better. And he's mad at her for making the same choice.#But he's also mad at himself. Because he's supposed to be better and he's supposed to be different now.#Even though he isn't all that different. He was falsifying reports to protect Isabel.#He's supposed to be training her to be better and she made the same choice he made.#So his course of action is to rev up the training some more. Maybe he was too soft and lenient with her towards the end of s1#and he lost sight of his training methods and how rules matter.#but he also lowered his walls and was vulnerable with her. He let her in.#And he's going to keep letting her in despite how much he tries to resist.#with every act of kindness she shows him... the walls break down and soften a little#until all that remains is Tim's unwavering tenderness for Lucy.#that only seems to grow more in her presence and influence.
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i just thought of something about frostpawâs design having a wolf motif and her huge autopsy scar - it reminds me of how in multiple fairy tales (particularly ittle red riding hood, like you mentioned in the design post), the wolves in those stories have their stomachs cut open. i just thought that was cool :3
I hadn't even considered that, but it makes it work even better. The fairytales don't even just have the wolf get their belly cut open-- they also get filled with stones and tossed in the river.
There's a clear image in my mind that when Frostpaw is put under the human tranquilizer, her mind falls backward and plunges her into liquid void. A dream takes hold, bubbles forming in the dark, her body cradled by clear water as far as she can perceive.
The unspoken knowledge of her dream tells her that she's in a raindrop, the river, the lake, and Riverstar Himself. The embodiment of water. And He is endless.
Her problems are washed away by the sheer vastness of his being, and she's just beginning to wrap her head around the marvel of it all when she opens her eyes in a den. Warm, comfortable, surrounded by hay.
The vision sloshes in her mind like dancing waves. She has a boiling desire to understand what it meant-- and the only thing that comes to mind is the Tribe of Rushing Water's philosophy that all things are connected by the river. That living by the Lake, fed by the southern delta, which rushes down from the mountain's waterfall, makes their cultures kin.
She decides to start there, and will go further south if need be. Thus begins Book 3 of BB!ASC, The Source of the River.
#I like the way that the fairytale vibes of certain designs Im thinking up for ASC feed into--#--the way this arc will probably shape up to be a moment where the fables of the past meet the reality of the present day#Something also gives me a warm feeling about the thought that this arc will have a culminating moment between Frost and Curl#The wolf in sheep's clothing and the big bad wolf#The cub who has come to learn that there's more to life than what her mother hunted for#The Love Was There. It Wasn't Enough. It's time to put away the past and step towards the future.#BB!ASC#Better Bones AU#BB!Frostdawn#BB!Frostpaw
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perry with some words of wisdom in superman: lex 2000 ("just because this country is about to go to hell in a handbasket doesn't mean this newspaper does, too!") (and we are all the newspaper, really.)
#rereading superman: lex 2000 to cope tbh lmao#but like. deep breaths. the justin mcelroy tweet. im gonna keep doing what good i can and nobody can change that.#i will take today to wallow and be deeply dismayed and disheartened and take comfort in my friends.#and we will all keep trying to work towards a better future no matter what. bc i have to believe it's possible#but. enough of that soapbox im just going to read superman comics and sleep and then maybe play video game or write and call my besties#i can be a real person again later. for now. save me lois lane#rimi talks#clark#lois#jimmy#perry
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I am absolutely not asking for you to add this to the story because I feel like readers have gotten very free with asking authors to tweak stuff and it's been very entitled in some cases, BUT:
I am imagining the delicious angst of a helvling who took Shea's last name mournfully dropping it after the Ch. 1 revelations. Because apparently they did not have the relationship built on trust the helvling thought they had, and, moreover, why would the helvling want to be associated with Shea's family if that's who it includes?
Yeah, I've talked about it (the last name thing) before in a previous ask. I might yet add it a little further down the line, or when I'm making final edits to the game.
#asks#it might fit better in a future scene I think... and perhaps it can be something the MC builds towards
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WHAT'D YOU DO WITH HIM? I KNOW HE WOULDN'T HAVE LEFT BY CHOICE. I KNOW YOU THINK YOU UNDERSTAND HIM.
#ofmdedit#ourflagmeansdeathedit#ofmd#our flag means death#edward teach#stede bonnet#izzy hands#userbecca#useravia#userelio#ughmerlin#usernobie#edits#i forgot my own edits tag twice and now the other ofmd gifsets won't show on my own blog. incredible move from my part#anyway i'm simply obsessed with this scene and i had to do something about it#the fact that izzy comes to him#cause despite everything they really are the one who know him better#izzy for his past and stede for his future for who he could be#but they both acknowledge the other part here#and the fact that izzy KNOWS stede's love for ed won't trample his loyalty and care towards the crew#they're speaking as equals here for the very first time#honest and raw#stede is not even really angry#he knows they did what they had to do to protect themselves and he wouldn't want them dead at ed's feet#i don't think he was trying to be snarky here. he just wanted closure and knew izzy could give it to him#it's also extra painful for them both#i have lots of thoughts and feelings about this whole thing in general#flashing gif /
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itâs really such a crime that rriordan immediately pitted percy and jason against each other when they shouldâve immediately bonded over being kidnapped by hera, having their memories erased, and months of time stolen from them. they shouldâve been allowed to recognize each other as leaders of their respective camps (and understand what it took to get in that position, because leadership has a cost) and recognize that they are being pushed around the chessboard by the gods AGAIN, and they shouldâve gotten the chance to truly combine their strength (with annabethâs additional leadership skills) and lead the younger members of the seven. and in doing so hera wouldâve realized the mistake of giving them common ground, because percy and jasonâs combined power? their matching bitterness and contempt for the gods? unmatched. the olympians thought luke was bad, but god help them when percy and jason turn their power onto them
#especially because percy and jason are really fiercely protective of their friends and of younger demigods#like they both know that theyâve lost so much to the gods already#but theyâre trying to make it better for future younger demigods#and you canât tell me that Percy and jason wouldnât be filled with the most righteous anger at seeing young demigods get dragged#into another great prophecy#percy and Jason both CHOSE to lead their camps in the battles against the titans#these demigods did not choose this great prophecy#and rick chose the cowardâs way out and made the two of them antagonistic towards each other#he was scared of their power too#percy jackson#jason grace#pjo#hoo#jercy
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Oliver âI always believed people were turned evil by their surroundings and circumstances but now Iâm starting to think I was always destined to be evilâ Nolastname x Marcus âI was created for the sole purpose of doing evil but I want to be goodâ Davenport
#thinking about them again#in the ideal world where LREF was actually good and focused on stopping Bridget instead of introducing new villains#their dynamic could have been so interesting#because you have Oliver WANTS to be good but after how quickly he became sadistic toward Alan in s1e9#and learning abt how heâs evil in the future in s2e8#AND to top it all off his Mother is apparently a super villain so maybe it was always in his blood to be evil#and then you have Marcus who was literally created to do evil and never had a choice to do anything else before#wanting to literally go against his programming and be BETTER#idk l just think they would be able to help each other so much whether itâs platonically or romantically#lab rats#mighty med#marcus davenport#oliver mm#mm oliver#oliver nolastname#lab rats marcus#marcus lab rats#mighty med Oliver#Oliver mighty med#lab rats elite force#lref#marliver#marcus x oliver#Oliver x marcus
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#I applied for a mortgage#bc the bank told me I can apply to it before the minimum time limit on my savings account and before I have found a house#I mean I've been looking at houses now I just have to start visiting them... to test if the faucets actually run cold water and whatnot#Getting a little anxious about it bc oohhh booyyy I would be moving in the very near future if the bank really wants to be my friend#and you know... my 5 year plan is speedrunning towards me#anyway I'll see what they say at the consultation when hashing out details#I'll probably feel better after I talk with my bro about all of this. He's good with stocks and... the market.
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Okay, so, here's the thing, here's where a lot of my anarchism comes from.
Let's go all the way back, back to where humans came from, the ancestral environment. In the ancestral environment, when we're all hunter gatherers, sometimes there's scarcity. And when there's scarcity, it's who you know and the nature of those relationships which determines whether or not you survive. So, being a social animal, the degree to which you manipulate the social environment is a huge factor in that.
A lot of the ways we do this are through social structures, phantasms. We have a lot of them floating around; gender, morality, honor, justice, family. These are all things that don't actually exist materially. They only exist as a linking of concepts, a constellation of ideas that we reify into a system. And we use these to control each other, to create a social environment that is more suitable to getting our needs met. They form the bedrock of our civilization and society.
We enforce these structures most often by methods of social correction; isolation, harassment, bullying, and so on, to make people get with the program. And when that fails sometimes there is violent coercion, in modern times usually by the body that maintains a monopoly on violence and violent coercion, the state.
But because these things don't actually exist materially, they are flexible. We can add or remove stars from these constellations while maintaining mostly the same recognizable shape and other people still recognize it and might not even realize we changed it at all. And we all do this, all the time, generally unconsciously, in ways that favor us. This is where identity politics comes from, right? All of the toxicity within it. Everyone is trying to weaponize these structures to extract material benefit from the social environment by reshaping these relations to be more favorable to them.
But these abstractions are largely the way we make sense of the world. It's the foundation of language and cognition and communication. So anything we do together will always result in people playing these games with each other, defecting in this grand prisoner's dilemma.
This applies to communism, too - I think every communist has started out well-meaning, the marxist-leninists included. The thing is that we are fundamentally unable to participate in society without trying to turn it to our benefit, it is hard-wired into us, we are so good at it that we don't even realize when we are doing it. And it applies to anarcho-communism, as well, even in the absence of a coercive state people can still accrue soft social power and utilize that to create a social hierarchy - even a simple reading of Ursula K. Le Guin's The Dispossessed, which posits a flawed anarcho-communist utopia, reveals it as an investigation into how even if you start out with true believers, applying it on a society wide level will result in the vast majority of people talking the talk without walking the walk.
So, at present, because I don't really see a way out of this, my anarchism is mostly formulated as a critical orientation at these structures which create hierarchy and domination, a toolbox of critique that we can use to break them down, a continual process that must be adhered to as everyone will always be trying to build new ones up. Conscious deconstruction, of our unconscious constructions. This doesn't mean I don't think things can be better, that I don't think a positive social project is possible. I just don't know how to get there, right now, with a method I'm sure won't just end up making things worse.
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I like to imagine that after some time ccDonnie gets really into training with his bĆ and in training in general. He's such a solution orientated person I feel like it would get really unbearable for him to feel like he's the weakest and defenseless - after all isn't all of this his fault for being so dense that he could not tell that something was oh so obviously wrong with his brothers and for being so weak that he ended up getting so physically hurt? So really this is something he needs to fix again. Focusing too much on his tech has made him a liability and bad at reading his brothers, so he tries to balance tech and training more.
So I imagine that as an adult Donnie is quite a scary aggressive fighter - softshell turtles are quite aggressive in nature after all, precisely because of their softness - and appears quite distant and cold to outsiders. You would have to know him for quite some while and be really attentive to notice that at heart he is far more gentle mannered and soft, but the most important people in his life already know that.
Also!! I love it when in tmnt whump writers use turtle behaviours as therapy - like swimming being therapeutic. Maybe ccDonnie would also really enjoy swimming and letting his mind rest after all this?
I really liked the animatic!!!! And can't wait for the last chapter of cc! Sending love
honestly this is something i could see! combat is going to be a hard thing for donnie to go back to in particular even without his brothers because he's kind of conditioned himself to panic and do little, curl up in a ball and steel himself. and mixed with the final attack i think he's just going to have problems getting back into the environment and mindset
but like, when he does? i could definitely see some overcompensating going on. donnie gettting vicious out of fear of being helpless again. being triggered and seeing red, falling back hard on the urge to fight back that DID save his life. it stopped leo from slitting his throat and held raph off, really. its still frenzied and panicked but there's an edge of uncharacteristic anger there. he'd otherwise normally be very precise and tactical in his combat, and i do think it'd be a skill he would put a lot of focus on.
im unsure about socially though. i could see him giving off that energy because he would be quiet for SURE, and he always looks on edge and nervous (which can be interpreted as "fuck off" body language lmao) but donnie is hyperaware of other people and he always will be going forward. when he actually opens his mouth he'll be very appeasing, at first at least. i do think he'll be really nervous around new people and it'll make it hard for him to find new connections, but he'll actually be one of the better ones with that. leo will be nasty because of paranoia for a long time.
(also omg yeah i am a little envious because i would LOVE to meditate underwater ... just go under there for ages and chill ... need to project this urge onto him it sounds so calming)
#ask#canary continuity#ive never pondered on how doomed future cc!leo would be but like. actually probably better than his good future self would be#he has to get over that problem QUICK. everyone is an ally when their fight is against the kraang#his usual ire would be centered on a very select number of people. like any witches#but otherwise i think he'll really struggle with it. they NEVER learned who the witch in the bathroom was#and donnie has other enemies. maybe they cant do something like kitsune did but that's not going to stop the anger#purple dragons and repo come to mind. he would be SUPER hostile towards them#and like donnie and jeremy are friends so i dont think that'd go over well#i could honestly see leo ending up pretty overtly overprotective. more than raph#but i think its somewhat understandable. he confronted all of those injuries they caused head-on.#he took care of him. small and stick-thin and unable to breathe in that cot#rocked and held him through night terror after night terror#accepted that he would have to watch donnie die#woke up with him gone#i dont even know if donnie understands the depths of how that emotionally effects a person#maybe leo doesn't worry about having his mind fucked up but he is TERRIFIED of having to watch something like that happen to donnie again#he thinks about it a lot more than raph and mikey will. it also means he reacts the worst when donnie relapses#do with that what you will
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I wonder how it felt when Lilly gave birth to Cole and lost her powers right away. She was pretty young, and she probably had a different vision for herself as an elemental master, meaning she never got to have fun with her powers as much as she would like. She probably couldn't get enough of them.
I wonder if Lou was worried about her when she lost her powers. He has no idea how it must feel like, but he can guess some part of her feels empty now. He'd be so worried if with PPD she would be angry at Cole for taking her powers or feel hurt, because you know, even though in her right mind she was happy that he was her inheritor, you never know.
He finds her sighing sadly when she is taking care of their garden a few times, no longer feeling like a part of the earth below her. It no longer feels like they are one, and it's a very odd feeling, she can't say she likes it. And it took some time to finally get used to it too.
One night Lou wakes up, and she is not beside him. He wonders where she is, and finds her talking to baby Cole. She yaps to him, asks him about how she wonders it feels to him. How she heard that when elemental masters are too little to wield such magic, "the magic is around them and not in them", or something like that, whatever that means. So he probably isn't even aware of the connection between him and his element.
Lou listens to them. How she talks to the baby in a quiet, soft voice, how Cole sometimes makes happy, funny little sounds, how Lilly giggles between her words when he does that. Best of all, Lilly doesn't sound as sad. She sounds happy when she talks to the baby about their element. How she explains to him that she is sad about losing them, but it's okay because she chosed to give up on them. She will be okay, it's just gonna take a little longer to get rid of old mannerism.
#just to clarify. ofc Lou knows she wouldn't get angry or hateful towards the baby but again ppd is no joke so he has to be cautious#also I bet he asked her how she felt about the powers after the birth because he knows it meant so much to her :(#they probably had a conversation when she was pregnant too#about how it's pretty early and of she isn't ready to let go of her powers she doesn't have to#but Lilly wanted the baby more than she wanted to keep her powers#again I hc that Cole entered their life in the lowest time so learning she was pregnant was probably a hope for a better future for her#she thought she could leave all the sadness she has behind and just raise this child with her lover and they'd be happy#and well#they were#until... yea.#oh god FSM hates this family so much for whatever reason....#ninjago#ninjago cole#ninjago lilly#ninjago lou#ninjago fanfiction
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Starting the year off with a random Zelda theory:
Ghirahim is Lorule's Master Sword, and him being in Hyrule is why Lorule turned to destroying their Triforce rather than hoping the hero would save them and restore balance one day.
#lorule is the obvious tragedy (destroying what you can't have and hurting yourself in the process)#but hyrule is a subtle tragedy (staking everything on one pinpoint of hope and depending on it rather than working towards a better future)#loz#zelda#albw#theory#skyward sword
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Random headcanon I probably like too much is the idea that Rosie never really swears, or at the least she swears even less than Alastor.
Like, she could if she wanted to, and she's not aghast when people do. She just doesn't. There's something about a cannibal lowkey drawing a line at profanity that gets me giggling.
Alastor makes sense he swears, he's from the south so he probably picked up on that sort of talk even with the transatlantic accent. Obviously he's learned to filter swearing and profanities out for radio, but like to imagine another reason he doesn't swear that much was Rosie rubbing off in him (the irony that his swearing decreased in Hell more than Louisiana is... accurate actually)
While not my favorite relationship, I really do love Rosie's and Alastorâs close-knit relationship and can't wait to see them interact more with season 2. They've also been described as having a relationship similar to Mary Poppins and Jack, so curious if they'll establish them as mentors and protege to a degree or at least just have Alastor always looking happy/in awe at Rosie.
#Celtrist#cel rambles#Feels like their relationship gets underrated#But same goes for most of Alastor's female friendships#I GOTTA BE FAIR THOUGH THAT IT DOESN'T HELP THAT HIS MALE RELATIONSHIPS ARE ARGUABLY MORE INTERESTING/COMPLEX#AND TBH MOST OF THE MALE CHARACTERS KINDA TAKE THE SPOTLIGHT#No shade to the female cast I love them#But I gotta acknowledge they get the sore end of the stick in terms of âinteresting and complexâ characters#But hey maybe future seasons will get better?#Need to think more positively ^^#And maybe it's because I just tend to gear towards male characters?#Not sure. The show just didn't feel very âfemale-leadâ as it was mentioned to be#Yknow the excuse as to why Loona and Millie gets little to no development/focus#Okay I'm getting negative again sorry#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel alastor#hazbin alastor#alastor the radio demon#alastor hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel rosie#hazbin rosie#rosie hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel headcanon#hazbin headcanons#hellaverse#helluvaverse#hellaverse headcanon#headcanons#radiorose#Not really ship related but I know what people are looking up...
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