#thoughts about endgame

[atomicradiogirl]

house and wilson in house md is the opposite of queerbaiting. they are the most canon tragic friends to lovers situationship in fiction history they literally move in together, EVERYONE thinks they’re a couple, house literally fakes his own death just so he can be alone with wilson in his last few months of life, the show ends with them riding off into the sunset together. they literally love each other. the only thing missing is they don’t kiss (on screen). dear GOD. and this show is from 2004. house and wilson invented 90% of modern day queer ship dynamics. just saying.

[udkmehahaha]

was he thinking about el here too or what

[socratesgirlnextdoor]

kat's poem from 10 things i hate about you, 1999

[thegreatyin]

fallen london stat prioritization is so funny because you're supposed to level all of your stats equally but also the way ambitions and stat specialization is structured means your character will inevitably end up with at least one or two stats that are their Good Ones and also watchful. level your watchful. level your watchful right now. post cancelled this is now a psa. railway content does not become accessible unless you have 200 watchful and this is a hard requirement You Need To Level Watchful

[demi-god77]

Me in 2025 when I hear the words "what painting?" out of El's mouth:

[sylviethewise]

late night revelation:

Robin mentions capital letters a few times "Platonic with a capital P."

Where else do we see capital letters being used?

Or more so... not used?

I guess Mike loves El with a lowercase l

[catgirljaneway]

Tuvok and Kathrym and the time Kathryn destroyed the timeline to get Tuvok back.

/I Swear Somewhere This Works - Trista Mateer/

[modmad]

if you ever got the chance to make a TPoH viddy game would it have a fishing minigame

what do you think I am, an idiot? of COURSE it would have a fishing minigame

[musette22]

One common thing people who support Steve's endgame ending claim is that Steve was always miserable in the future. He never adjusted or felt at home in the future, so of course when he got the chance to go back to the past he took it.

However the only proof of this is at the start of catws (and that deleted avengers scene). Yes he was feeling lost and adrift but he didn't stay that way. He made friends with Sam and Natasha and Wanda and Thor and he got Bucky back. He found a purpose and became confident in who he was and what he believed in. Steve may have moments of feeling sad, but if you think he stayed that way for 12+ years you're not giving him enough credit.

And the claim that he was always miserable isn't true either. He joked with his friends on several occasions, and I mentioned how much better he was when he became nomad. And sorry to steggy or staron shippers, but Bucky made Steve happier than anyone else did. Look at the museum footage of them, or them looking at each other in infinity war. He was happy without Peggy.

Also I think fans forget the scene in catws where Sam asks him if he misses the past. And what does Steve say in response? He lists things he likes about the future and makes a point of not romanticising the past. It's especially important that he was talking to a black man while saying this. We rightly talk about how awful Bucky would feel about Steve leaving to live a life without him, but also imagine being Sam and hearing that your friend wants to go life in a time when someone like you had less rights than you do now.

And you know the line about shared life experience? It applies to Bucky of course but in endgame you could also apply it in a non romantic way. Because you say Steve was out of place in the future? Well in endgame he was surrounded by people in the same situation. Countless people were forced to adjust to a time they didn't know. Steve is uniquely qualified to bond with these people. And choosing to go back to the past puts him right back where he was when he first went to the future. He again has to adjust to a time he's not familiar with.

Funny how in order to justify his ending you have to ignore what his story has previously shown us.

THANK YOU! This is so very true, all of it. Completely agree, you make so many excellent points.

Of course Steve felt lost and adrift at first: he was. He was all alone in a foreign time, he lost everyone, he had ptsd because of the war he fought in and everything that had happened to him etc. etc. It would've been strange if he hadn't been depressed in those first years.

But you're right, he was already making significant steps towards being more settled in the new century by the time Bucky returned, and then when he did, I would argue he became a sort of anchor for Steve in the new time. And from that moment on, Steve really started to belong, and realize that he didn't want to go back, but forward. Like, Nomad Steve was NOT dreaming about going back to the 40s, there is no way. That man belonged right where he was, with Bucky by his side, and he knew it.

Home. And he did not mean bloody 1945.

(Gif credit @/dailystevegifs from this gifset)

Also, can I just say that Steve never seemed particularly happy or settled in the 30s/40s? Yes, he had his mother and he had Bucky, and yes, it was "his" time and Brooklyn and I'm sure he came to miss it once he couldn't go back to it anymore, but he was often sick and he was poor and he was frustrated with the world around him and his own body's limitations, and he always wanted sometimes else, something more.

And sure, one could argue that he finally found his calling once he was given the serum and became Cap (and got a healthy body that fit his spirit), but we know he was still miserable at first, as a dancing monkey. I do think the period of time after he'd rescued Bucky, when the Howling Commandos worked closely together for a few years, must've been a special time for Steve, which he will have missed later on for sure. But it was still wartime. Wartime, and being in a war zone, is miserable, and far from a dream life for Steve. So like... what exactly was he supposedly longing for in the past so much that it would've been impossible for him to ever settle in the present? The thing he most clearly missed from his past was Bucky, and he got him back.

So yeah, I think Steve was just fine where he was eventually, and he would have never, ever thrown everything he’d built, the life that had become his, and everyone he'd come to care about and who cared about him, casually out of the window in order to go back to a past he never gave any indication of actively wanting to go back to.

Funny how in order to justify his ending you have to ignore what his story previously showed us.

Exactly that. That's precisely what Endgame did: it ignored Steve's previous story and his character development over several movies in order to shoehorn in the heteronormative ending the studio execs apparently demanded. Spineless, inane bullshit, if you ask me.

[hawkins-batman]

I mean, did anyone honestly think Mileven was happening? Really? This isn't even me trying to be a troll. I've been watching this show since it came out and I've only interacted with the online shipping fandoms for about a year or two at most. Mileven was cute until Season 2.

They've spent the last two seasons fighting, unable to express their true feelings to each other, and apart. The only time they're ever happy is when they're forcing it (Season 3) or faking it (El in Season 4). The military is also hunting one of them and doesn't seem all that keen on giving up. Where was this idyllic fairy tale "and then they lived happily ever after at the end of a cul-de-sac" going to fit in?

[acaciapines]

thinking about the roaring knight again. it really is between dess and carol to me okay. like dess bc THAT WAS A BASEBALL BAT. also the voice on the phone feels more dess than carol to me. 'kris you promised' is KILLING ME but this could be my own projection on how i write and see dess. carol knight bc WHY. WAS HER TEXT RED. FOR 'YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE.' i mean it HAS to be one of them but im.

i think dess is so fun but idk...........

okay like. kris for sure went into the bunker after chapter three right. like the door OPENS, then we cut, then we get a flashback to closing the fountain to start 4. so i THINK kris is only working with the knight?/phone voice since then--dark world three feels very much like. i think they did that one on their own. i could see cyber city being them but if it was the knight (so dess or carol) that still tracks, leaning towards dess for that one bc it makes sense w/ how queen is? i feel like if carol opened it queen would be. uh. less Like That w/ noelle yknow.

i just feel like kris would risk it all for dess but maybe not their strict maybe-aunt yknow. BUT AGAIN THAT RED YOU. EVEN IF CAROL ISNT THE KNIGHT SHE FUCKING KNOWS OKAY.

also i want it to be dess bc i love her :333 and i also give her fucked up shadowy shapeshifty magic bc the dark has gotten under her skin and made a home there. WHO ELSE HAS THOUGHTS I CAN BE SWAYED EITHER WAY.

[bittersweet-nothingss]

Thinking about the fact that in the last ep of TW when Monroe was defeated, all the canon couples were seen together.

We saw every single one:

-Morey in the hospital

-Stydia and Scalia in the library

-even Jackson and Ethan in the locker room.

So it’s interesting to me that the directors and writers really decided to show Theo and Liam together too, when they could’ve easily shown Liam by himself talking into the radio.

Why show Theo standing behind him?

It’s just more proof that they were meant to a canon couple idc what anyone says.

[a2zillustration]

:)

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[lorax-devito]

i have just found out that we still don’t have the teaser.

[trekkiemage]

No matter what reality we’re in…

[atomicradiogirl]

house md is in a way extremely groundbreaking and no show has gotten even close to what it managed to do. house is a disabled character who stays disabled for the whole series and yes he is a flawed and damaged person and his bad actions are in line with his character and dealing with chronic pain. he changes even though he is adamant for the whole show that people don’t change. house becomes self sacrificing and learns to love in his own flawed way. he goes to therapy and seeks help and support and he is 100% not the same person he started out the series as. there are canon queer characters that aren’t only treated as jokes and have actual three dimensional character arcs. there are unhealthy relationships and healthy relationships. there is loss but it’s not treated as shock value. actions have consequences. characters stay and go. house md is just as real as it is outlandish at times. it skirts the line with absurdity and realism. it’s beautiful and tragic and at it’s core it is a story of love and becoming a better person despite your trauma and flaws. it doesn’t treat house’s trauma and disability as an excuse for his actions but it’s why he is who he is. and despite all of this, house is happy at the end of the show even though the one person he truly loves, his male best friend, is dying. they could have gone the conventional route and gave wilson a female love interest who is actually good for him at the end of the show and yet they choose to have him run away to spend his final days alive with house. and this show ended before gay marriage was legalized. oh my god.