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barbswo · 16 hours ago
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THIAM prompt: “PDA”
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They weren’t really big on PDA—public displays of affection, that was. Stiles knew that there was nothing wrong with that, after all, all couples were different, but.
They were Liam and Theo.
No, sorry, not like that.
They were LiamandTheo.
As in, together.
When Stiles first heard about it, he was still in Washington, and it happened during a group call they tried to put together at least twice a month, which was a real bitch to accomplish, counting different time zones and personal schedules. Stiles was peacefully organizing some documents, listening to Malia complain about weird french customs, when Mason let out a mocking whistle, and Stiles lifted his head.
Of course, he knew that Theo was hanging around Beacon Hills. He knew that Liam’s parents, being real-life saints, let Theo to stay with them, knew that the chimera got close to the Puppy pack (Liam still hated that nickname, but Stiles thought that it was hilarious and on point), but knowing and seeing were two very different things.
Theo never joined their calls, acted like he didn’t even exist, always silent, hovering on the periphery of everybody’s minds. Theo was the blurry picture one deleted before trying to focus their camera, a word in a dictionary with no definition attached. And now Theo was just there, shirtless, a towel wrapped around his hips, walking around Liam’s room like it was the most normal thing to do.
“There is a naked chimera of death behind you,” blurted out Stiles, and it was fascinating how fast Liam’s head whipped around. Laughter pulled the lines of his mouth when he turned back to the camera, shaking his head.
“You almost got me there.”
Stiles blinked. Frowned. That wasn’t the reaction he was expecting.
“Stiles, I swear, you don’t want to be around Liam when there is a naked Theo nearby,” grinned Mason from his square on Stiles’ laptop, Corey’s head on his shoulder. Even cut by the camera frame, they looked so disgustingly sweet Stiles wanted to lick their faces.
Liam flipped Mason off. Scott nervously chuckled on his end, looking away for a second, and Stiles felt like he had to fight for his life while putting two and two together. It was his thing—to know stuff. To see it before everyone else did.
And maybe it would’ve been more obvious had he been around more after Theo’s… resurrection?.. but instead, realization hit him in the middle of the pack call, and Stiles almost fell off his chair.
“For all that’s sweet and pure, Liam, are you two an item? And why is everybody acting like you knew, did I miss the announcement of Theo seducing our baby wolf, and why in hell—”
“You didn’t tell him?” Asked Corey, lifting his head. “Liam, you said you would weeks ago!”
“Weeks?” Squeaked Stiles.
Liam sighed like someone had deposited the weight of the world on his shoulders. “First,” he lifted his index finger, “not your baby wolf. I’m eighteen, thank you very much. Second,” there went the next finger, “us dating is our business, and there was no announcement, Stiles, for god’s sake…”
“You called me in the middle of the night and wouldn't calm down for two hours,” dryly reminded Mason, and somewhere behind Liam’s back, Theo scoffed.
“Two hours, really? That’s kind of pathetic.”
And hey, maybe it was a little bit pathetic, but Stiles still remembered how it felt when he realized that the girl he’d been crushing on for ten years liked him back, and he wasn’t the one to judge, not really. Even if the subject of Liam’s affections was a murderer raised in sewers. Tastes differ.
But, because the subject of Liam’s affections was a murderer raised in sewers, Stiles couldn’t help but take his sudden revelation with a grain of salt. After all, he’d watched the kid grow, and in some ways, felt protective not only of Liam overall, but of Liam’s heart, too.
And Theo was known for stealing those.
“Pathetic, huh?” Liam turned his head, presenting everyone with the view of his sharp jawline, “Says the guy who whimpered when I—”
A book that looked like it could’ve taken Liam’s head off if thrown at a slightly different angle hit him in the nose, and Liam yelled, waving his hands around to steady himself. That, unfortunately, resulted in him knocking off his own laptop, and the picture of his room circled around, blurred and went totally dark.
“Maybe they will kill each other and we won’t have to deal with their weird flirting anymore,” concluded Malia, and Stiles gaped at her.
“Flirting? You call that…” he struggled to get the rest of the sentence out by choking on his own tongue, “are you absolutely sure they are together-together, because that didn’t look—”
“Oh, we are sure,” Corey wrinkled his nose, “more sure than we’d like to be.”
“I second this,” chuckled Mason, and just like that, no matter how hard Stiles tried to circle back to the potential danger of Theo dating Liam, conversation shifted to the future summer break, plans, hang-outs and trips.
And honestly? Ever since that call Stiles couldn’t wait to be back home.
Not because of the summer break. Summer, of course, was good as a concept, and it highlighted Stiles’ freckles and made his skin strawberry pink while Scott paraded around with the most picture-perfect tan ever, and it smelled like ice-cream and all-night hangouts and freshly cut grass, and for some reason made Stiles’ dad smile more, as if all the warmth and sun brought him back to the good times with less monsters and cares.
However, Stiles had a talent for getting obsessed with things he didn’t understand. No, even better—he had a talent for investigating the things he didn’t understand until he could confidently say that if needed, he could write a whole book on the subject. It just happened so that currently, LiamandTheo made absolutely no sense.
Stiles recognized that his tendencies of going deep into the trenches of “observe, think, pin down, look, understand” weren’t… well, common. Normal kids didn’t spend their nights reading every article on hair follicles just because they were fascinated by how age turned black and red and gold into silver and wanted to know how and why it happened. In Stiles’ line of life and work, meticulousness never hurt anyone.
And it wasn’t that he thought Theo would go off the rails and slit all their throats one night. It was nothing like that. Stiles was stubborn, but he wasn’t an idiot, and neither was Theo. He had countless opportunities to turn his back on the pack, yet he stayed—as Stiles was well aware, to drive Liam around and help him to do his homework.
Homework didn’t have an evil ring to it. Stiles could’ve subscribed to the idea of Theo being a chauffeur and a tutor, but Liam’s boyfriend? Theo Raeken? The same nine-year-old kid who once looked Stiles dead in the eye and said that he believed love was nothing but a concept invented by desperate people? The teenager who grew up in the sewers of dozens of cities and was raised by three faceless psycos? Same Theo who killed his own packmates because he was hungry for power before recognition?
Granted, Theo had changed, and Stiles even admitted it once, but still. Theo didn’t do anything unless there was something he could gain from it. His ever-calculating, manipulative mind would never allow him to be just selfless. It had been injected into Theo’s veins to be a perfect weapon and to survive no matter what, so excuse Stiles for not buying the cute-caring-honest-boyfriend act.
Liam certainly had a thing for mean people, but Liam was a freaking golden retriever puppy. He would let Darth Vader pet him. Stiles was not trusting his judgment, because while Liam wasn’t exactly dumb, love did weird things to human brains. Stiles would know. He was friends with Scott McCall.
Thus, upon arriving at Beacon Hills, Stiles started doing what he did best. Investigating.
And that was how he ended up glaring in frustration at his current dilemma. Also known as the pack’s movie night.
You see, Stiles was an awkward person, and he sure as hell couldn’t keep it together around his crush, but even after he did a lot of thinking and grew up, there was still a part of him that wanted to reach out to Lydia and just touch. Make sure she was real. That he hadn’t imagined her by his side like he used to do before Scott got bitten and Stiles was fourteen and helplessly in love with the most popular girl in school.
And Stiles wasn’t even a werewolf, or chimera, or—anything freaky. But he knew how it was when a lupine creature found a mate (the term tasted like pure cringe in his mouth, but there was nothing Stiles could do about that): scenting became a primal instinct, a tradition to follow of sorts. He was fairly sure every member of the pack started smelling at least a little bit like Scott on the second day of their summer break, because Scott was the alpha and they belonged to him (there was that cringe again, but Stiles’ entire life had become cringe so... whatever), but it tended to be even more intense when romance was involved.
And Stiles was starting to question whether there was any romance between Liam and Theo, because really—they didn’t act like it.
At all.
“No, we are not doing Lord of the Rings marathon,” Mason rolled his eyes at Liam’s offended face, “each movie is like, three hours long, Li, nobody has that strength of will!”
“Those movies are classic,” argued Corey, and Mason’s gaze shifted to him.
“You will be the one to fall asleep on me in twenty minutes.”
Corey sent Liam an apologetic smile. “That’s true.”
Liam let out an irritated breath and pulled Theo’s sleeve to get his attention. “Help me convince these idiots that the best saga of all time should be savored whole—oh, and we can watch the director’s cut, too!”
Theo threw Liam the most unimpressed glance Stiled had seen in his entire life. “I don’t want to know what the director’s cut even is. You and your nerdy brain should’ve really stayed home.”
Liam scoffed. “It was you who wanted to stay home, Theo.”
“Hoped to get a break from you, really.”
Stiles immediately felt offended. He, of course, believed that the best saga of all time was Star Wars, but he wasn’t going to argue on the topic, because his mind was elsewhere.
Now, sarcasm might’ve been Stiles’ first line of defense, but there was a balance between being sarcastic and mean. He wasn’t sure Theo got the memo of the said balance.
Stiles wasn’t sure what he was expecting to change, having given the idea of LiamandTheo quite a lot of thought, but he certainly didn’t expect to encounter… that. Theo behaved like he was forced to be in Liam’s presence. Reserved, cold, irritated nine times out of ten, Theo was willingly waving red flags in front of Liam’s very nose, Liam turning a blind eye on every single one of them.
It was the first time Stiles got to hang out with not just Liam and Theo, but with LiamandTheo, and he didn’t like it. They ended up watching the first Narnia movie, (which was Lydia’s favorite, so Stiles knew it by heart,) and instead of keeping his eyes on the screen, he found himself studying the new happy couple. Or, “happy” “couple”. Quotation on both words for the irony.
And that was how Stiles discovered they weren’t big on PDA in the first place.
And listen, it wasn’t like he yearned to see the chimera of death sucking on the beta’s tongue. Stiles was many things, but a creep wasn’t one of them, and in his head, Liam was still a freaking baby. He didn’t even expect to watch them make out like the world was ending—but he was starting to think that they barely did at all.
There was no peck on the lips when Liam grabbed a cherry coke not only for himself, but for Theo, too. No touch of gratitude, not even a glance, just a dry “thanks” that must’ve escaped Theo’s lips by some gruesome mistake. They sat next to each other, but didn’t even touch—not their shoulders, not their knees, not even their knuckles. Nothing.
If Mason had kept his mouth shut during that call, Stiles would’ve never guessed they were something more than enemies turned allies. And it was messing with his head.
“Something is wrong,” blurted out Stiles when the pack started migrating to their respective houses, leaving him, Scott, Malia and Lydia in the McCall kitchen.
Scott, who was stacking pizza boxes atop one another in a way that made them look like the Tower of Pisa, turned his head, his eyebrows raised. “What?”
“Theo,” pressed Stiles, and Lydia sighed a small “here we go again” from where she was sitting at the kitchen island. Stiles passed by her, his hand involuntarily brushing over her shoulders, because it was the most normal thing to do and because Stiles was allowed, and nodded at the window. There, the Puppy Pack gathered around Theo’s truck, talking about… something.
Scott followed Stiles’ gaze and shook his head.
“I know you don’t trust him—”
“It’s hard to trust someone who did what he did,” snapped Stiles, “but it’s not his loyalty to the pack I’m worried about. It’s…” he paused, staring at the window. Mason and Corey, apparently, were giving Nolan a ride, their trio getting in Mason’s car and leaving Liam and Theo to their devices.
Technically alone, the couple didn’t try and move closer—if anything, they drifted further apart and, if gestures and body language were anything to go by, arguing. Liam’s side was pressed into the truck’s hood, and Theo was leaning onto the driver’s door, leniently responding to Liam’s remarks.
“I don’t think he is good to him,” he said at last, his gaze drifting back to Scott. “Liam.”
“Want me to punch him?” Malia lifted her head, and Scott shook his head.
“Nobody is punching Theo,” he looked at Stiles, “it’s their relationship. I don’t think we have a say in who Liam dates, Stiles.”
Stiles narrowed his eyes. “But you agree that if we had, Theo wouldn’t have made the list?”
“He changed,” spoke Lydia, snatching the last piece of brownie from the plate before Malia could swallow it whole, “I know you don’t like him, and nobody is forcing you to, but Theo is different now. More… real.”
“We thought he was real senior year, and look where it almost brought us,” mumbled Stiles, reaching out and grabbing the Tower of Pizza Pisa (ha-ha) before it could fall down, “look, I know he isn’t a psycho maniac anymore—but you can’t convince me that Theo has an inch in all 5’8 of him that actually cares for Liam. As in, wants to hold his hand and stare lovingly into his eyes and kiss him until the moon dies. You know, typical teenage romance shenanigans?”
Lydia chewed her brownie, looking thoughtful. “But do we think that Theo—and Liam too, actually—are typical teenagers?”
“Exactly,” sighed Scott, closing the dishwasher soap dispenser and pushing the door shut, “I can sense Liam in my head, remember? And he is happier than he ever was before, I promise. I don’t... really feel Theo, because he is an idiot and keeps pushing me away, but what I do feel doesn’t alert me—quite the opposite, actually.”
Stiles bit his lip, looking between his friends. He did trust Scott’s senses, but it was also true that Scott had been wrong before. Crucially wrong. And it was water under the bridge now, because they all found a way to move on, push past their offenses and differences and mistakes, but it didn’t change the fact that Scott trusted people easily and was as naive as a princess in a tower.
And Liam, obviously, turned out exactly the same.
Maybe Theo didn’t want to really hurt him. Maybe he had what he always wanted to—a pack, but he realized that he needed some sort of validation, admiration, actually, and twisted and turned Liam’s barriers until the boy fell in love with him. Liam always liked people who were mean to him. And had a tendency to fall for his anchors. Theo surely knew that and used it for his own advantage, like he always did.
Of course, there was no way Stiles could say his thoughts out loud without coming out as paranoid, and to be honest, he didn’t want to burden anyone with his raw theories. His dad always said that proof was steel that nothing could break, so Stiles would have to look for that before making further advances on the topic.
After all, it was summer break. They all deserved a little rest.
The problem was, Stiles was restless.
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bittersweet-nothingss · 10 months ago
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Thinking about the fact that in the last ep of TW when Monroe was defeated, all the canon couples were seen together.
We saw every single one:
-Morey in the hospital
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-Stydia and Scalia in the library
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-even Jackson and Ethan in the locker room.
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So it’s interesting to me that the directors and writers really decided to show Theo and Liam together too, when they could’ve easily shown Liam by himself talking into the radio.
Why show Theo standing behind him?
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It’s just more proof that they were meant to a canon couple idc what anyone says.
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1asbrightasthestars3 · 7 months ago
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Same picture, different fonts.
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strgbird · 17 days ago
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the intro scene is UNDERRATED ASF
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clueless21 · 2 years ago
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Jawlines for days.
Now they just have to kiss and move in together and adopt a bunch of dogs.
Theo said no dogs and Liam said yes so they compromised and got dogs.
Anchor shit.
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kseniaallis · 2 years ago
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The concept of anchors in teen wolf always fascinated me. Because it’s not the same for everyone. Someone connects to negative emotions, pain, suffering, anger. Someone attaches to happy memories and joy. There are those who connect to mantras, philosophical ideas, and beliefs.
But there are also those who connect to loved ones, because they are something that makes them vulnerable, human. They are those who calm with a heartbeat, gentle voice, those who can reach the deepest parts of the mind with words, whose single presence can pull the shift, anger, impulse and instinct back and make the supernatural being feel at ease.
And when two supernatural beings are each other’s anchors? It means they connect to other not because they are a dose of the humanity they lost, not the reminder of the human part of them, but because they know they can trust each other because other will always have their back.
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ksbbb · 11 months ago
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WIP WEDNESDAY (but I’m switching it up)
Tagged by @maplefire18 @mmoosen
(I’m sick so this is a wip snippet from one of my first multi chapter fics. It needs some major editing. Fjfjf Maybe someday , but enjoy. 😂😬) anyone who figures out where this is from is getting a gift work from me cause that means they’ve been here since the beginning.
“I got you this. No big deal, but I thought of you.” Liam says, handing him a little package.
Theo opens it and looks at it. It’s a little carved out coyote. It’s made of wood and it’s howling. He looks at it for a second and decides not to say anything. He’s never been given something that was so personalized.
“I thought of a wolf, but I just thought your coyote side fit you more.” Liam explains.
“I told Liam that it’s nice because it shows the Coyote howling. Howling means a lot of things for them. Primarily to communicate or to show pain.” Mason says, smiling.
“Yes, that’s why I also got me a wolf. I figured they were communicating with each other but not in pain. Sometimes they do that and get along.” Liam says, handing Theo his wolf that’s made of wood.
“I thought this one could be the goal of where you want to be. We will get you a wolf too when you’re ready.” Liam smiles.
Theo’s not an emotional person by nature. Never has been. He looks at the gift and determines what he is feeling. Sad? Maybe touched? He doesn’t like it. He looks in the rearview mirror to see them smiling. Theo puts the gift on the dashboard of the truck.
“Thanks.”
Tagging @wolfboy88 @thiamsxbitch @transdunbar @outcastpack and anyone else that wants to. Think most people were tagged already.
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spiderraeken · 2 months ago
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finally posting my fic here for @officialthiamlibrary big bang!
the stunning edit is made by @snaeken <3
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emtheoddball · 2 years ago
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Theo: I’m going to hell
Liam: Probably
Theo: Pick you up?
Liam, nodding: yep carpool
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imhidingonceagain · 2 years ago
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Theo Raeken loved Liam Dunbar while Liam Dunbar could've loved Theo Raeken:
At this point my love for Thiam is evident and I love to think that my headcanons about them are facts but I also love to analyze canon and in my opinion Theo loved Liam while Liam could've loved Theo but we didn't have enough time.
Let me explain:
The first thing is that Theo's sexual orientation is never disclosed in the show but we can analyze what we get. Theo never showed romantic interest for anyone. The only two remotely romantic examples in his scenes are the ones with Malia and Tracey, however those instances were "programed", those were fake interactions impulsed by his -villanous- interests at the time.
Theo, however, seems much more interested whenever he interacts with men (I am not saying that he likes every single man he interacts with, but we can admit that even his expression seemed to change). Still, I don't think Theo felt anything for anyone -other than anger, jealously, etc.- until he met Liam.
In my opinion, yes, at first Theo didn't leave Liam's side because he had the power to send him back to hell but later there's plenty of times where Theo keeps showing even when he doesn't have to.
I have a post dedicated to explain how Season 6 Theo is the "Real Theo" and that Theo is pretty much mesmerized by Liam in many scenes. Evidently, he also feels some type of loyalty towards Liam to the point where he only decides to not leave Beacon Hills until Scott mentions Liam in that phone call.
Not to mention the amount of times where he saves Liam's life and helps him with his IED.
It's never stated explicitly but I think Liam is the first person Theo loved in a very very long time (or maybe the first one, we don't know how his relationship with his family was), wether it was platonic or romantic, Theo had feelings for that boy. I am personally inclined to think that those feelings are not platonic at all given the fact that I firmly believe that Theo might be gay or maybe bisexual with a strong preference for men.
Now, here comes the problem... Liam is a completely different case.
Liam feels resentful towards Theo most of the time and I think his unwillingness to send him back to hell has more to do with the fact that in Season 6 it's hinted that Liam will be the new leader at some point and he has to prove himself.
However, at some point things get much more complex because there's plenty of times where Liam keeps asking Theo for help even when he doesn't really need him. Liam listens to Theo and he knows that Theo is a reliable person -Towards Liam himself only because the rest of the pack never seems to forgive him, not even my sweet boy Mason- and wants to have him fighting by his side. He explains his plans and waits for Theo's opinion -the funny thing is that no matter how dumb Liam acts Theo will help him with his plans and save him if necessary-
And... the biggest point of the analysis on Liam's side is that it's heavily hinted that Theo is Liam's new anchor. Of course they never say it explicitly, but the subtext is too strong to ignore it (it's painfully obvious even). One of the biggest proofs of it is Theo saying "That's progress" when Liam controls himself after seeing him in that scene with Gabe because that line is a direct parallel to Stiles saying "That's progress" to Malia... HIS EX GIRLFRIEND.
I think Liam was not really prepared to accept that Theo was already his ally, his friend -given the fact that they smile at each other, they save each other, etc- and his anchor.
Liam was already feeling some type of affection for Theo by season 6B but it was buried behind the angry and annoyed facade Liam keeps for the entirety of that season.
Liam could've definitely loved Theo back but the show ended too early for Liam to come to terms with his new feelings.
I am choosing to ignore the existence of the Teen wolf movie because it makes Thiam even more tragic. If we consider it canon then it's very likely that Theo never confessed to Liam and Liam, at some point, probably buried his feelings even more until they faded.
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th30ra3k3n · 2 years ago
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And no one can ever hurt me like I hurt myself
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'Cause I'm made out of stone
And I'm beyond help, don't give your heart to me
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But how am I supposed to love you when I don't love who I am?
And how could I give you all of me when I'm only half a man?
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'Cause I'm a sinking ship that's burning, so let go of my hand
Oh how can I give you all of me when I'm only half a man?
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pain is all i know and so will you :)
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barbswo · 8 months ago
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“You know Shakespeare?”
“I’m happy to see you, too,” Theo stepped over someone’s backpack, getting closer, “and yes, I know Shakespeare. I’m not a cave person.”
“Right, you are a sewer person,” corrected Liam. Theo narrowed his eyes at him.
It was unfair: how extraordinarily attractive he was. Liam had recognized it before it had become a problem, but acknowledging it was like getting voluntarily tested with wolfsbane.
He hated and admired and loathed and adored that boy, and it was complex, contradictory and highly screwed-up, and it confused Liam ever since the Wild Hunt, when he’d realized that his heterosexual scooter had gotten hit by a bisexual paver. Theo wasn’t a really amiable person, because he was a psychotic egoist, a murderer and a snake, as tender as a poker and as blunt as lightning.
It just happened so that Liam discovered that he also had a very pretty smile and a great sense of humor, which Theo let shine through when he felt like it. And that knowledge, accompanied with tension that came with living through an actual war, being hunted, fighting with claws and teeth for freedom, being saved over and over again by the enemy… it was confusing, but before Liam could act on anything, Theo ran away.
So yes, he wasn’t being nice. Sue him.
“Why is there glitter in your hair?” Asked Theo instead of coming up with a clever insult, and Liam’s hand immediately shot up.
“I’m a fairy.”
More about Liam being a “fairy” and Thiam’s pining: 🍎“Hunting Hearts”🍎 by l_t_m on ao3.
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bittersweet-nothingss · 10 months ago
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This is exactly how I picture Theo when I read a fic where he’s with Liam in a pack meeting and he’s just there in the background silent and away from everyone not bothering to talk or engage in any conversation. He’s excluding himself from the pack because he doesn’t feel like he belongs there.
He’s in his own world (as seen in the pic where he’s looking at the floor ) whereas everyone else is talking and involved in what’s happening.
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bittersweet-nothingss · 1 year ago
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The “Lalala” and “Okokok” trend belongs to them 😭♥️
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liam + making his boyfriend theo smile 
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strgbird · 1 month ago
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#THIAM: imagine cool captions cause i'm still thinking about theo's face impression in the intro IK WHAT YOU ARE, THEO RAEKEN
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clueless21 · 2 years ago
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Sooo you’re telling me that when Liam tells himself to “stay afraid” he’s thinking of Theo’s words helping him out… helping him control his anger.
That’s some soulmate shit right there your honour. 
Stab me with a fucking fork cause I am done.
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Also not my video, but I just had to share. 💜💜
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