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stealvrth · 15 hours ago
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𝐇𝐄𝐀𝐑𝐓𝐖𝐄𝐀𝐕𝐄
STARRING ... SPIDEY!J. JUNGKOOK X READER
WORD COUNT ... 9.0K
SUMMARY ... in which jungkook realises his heart is caught in your web.
NOTES/WARNINGS ... PATHETIC KOOK ALERT!! cringefail!jungkook, mostly pure fluff. unrequited(?) love if you blink. slow burn(?). unresolved crush. idk i had a lot of fun writing this tho!! not proofread, so there may be mistakes 🫣
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jungkook doesn't know how to approach you.
he's seen you in passing countless times, walked your path because the two of you share the same class. he's considered saying hi, or asking if you need help with schoolwork, or literally doing anything else other than following you and staring like a creep.
the only genuine interaction the two of you have had was during freshman year when jungkook asked you to point out the lecture hall for chemistry, and you laughed and told him you were headed the same way — and just as lost as he was.
he thinks about that moment more often than he should. not because it was anything significant, but because it was the last time talking to you felt easy—effortless. before he let hesitation sink its claws into him, before he started overthinking every glance, every opportunity to speak.
now, jungkook just watches from a distance, caught somewhere between curiosity and cowardice. he wonders if you remember that day at all, if you ever think about him in passing the way he does you. probably not. he wouldn’t blame you.
still, the thought lingers. maybe tomorrow, he tells himself. maybe tomorrow he’ll say something.
jimin always makes fun of him for it, saying he’s fought villains before and yet one girl makes him shy?
“bro, you’ve literally been thrown through a building,” jimin snickers, shoving a handful of fries into his mouth. “but god forbid you say hi to a girl in your chemistry class.”
jungkook rolls his eyes, staring down at his untouched burger. he doesn’t pay jimin’s teasing any mind—he never does. it’s easy for jimin to talk; he’s never had to hide a whole second life, never had to balance midterms with stopping armed robberies. he doesn’t get it.
(though, to be fair, jimin is right. jungkook has gone toe-to-toe with some of the worst criminals in the city. yet somehow, the idea of talking to you makes his palms sweat.)
“it’s not that simple,” he mutters, picking at the edge of his tray.
jimin snorts. “right, because saying ‘hey, what’s up?’ is way harder than getting launched off a bridge.”
jungkook groans, dragging a hand down his face. he doesn’t have a good rebuttal for that. mostly because jimin’s right, and he hates that.
“it’s different,” he insists, even though it really isn’t.
jimin raises an eyebrow. “how?”
jungkook opens his mouth, then closes it. then opens it again. “because—” he starts, but the words get stuck in his throat, tangled up in excuses that don’t make sense even to him.
jimin grins, sensing victory. “you’re scared of her,” he sings, dragging out the last word obnoxiously.
jungkook scowls. “i’m not scared of her.”
“you so are,” jimin laughs. “like, imagine this. you’re mid-battle, bad guy’s got you in a chokehold, and suddenly—boom! it’s her. she’s watching. do you still pull your usual show-off stunts, or do you fumble and get your ass kicked?”
jungkook doesn’t answer.
jimin gasps, slapping the table. “you’d fumble.”
“i would not.”
“you so would.”
jungkook glares at him, but it’s weak. because, again, jimin is right. jungkook has had guns pointed at his head, has dodged death more times than he can count, but somehow, the thought of you seeing him trip over his own feet is what keeps him up at night.
jimin waggles his brows. “just talk to her, dude. it’s not that deep.”
but it is. it is that deep. because talking to you is different. talking to you is real, not some masked-up alter ego that people only half-believe in. and if he messes up as spiderman, he can hide behind the suit. if he messes up as jungkook—well.
there’s no hiding from that.
jungkook stabs at his fries with unnecessary aggression. “it’s not that simple,” he mutters again, knowing full well jimin won’t let it go.
“bro, it’s literally that simple,” jimin says, leaning back in his chair like he’s exhausted by the sheer weight of jungkook’s awkwardness. “just go up to her, say—i dunno—‘hey, you dropped this’ or something, even if she didn’t. instant conversation starter.”
jungkook squints at him. “so, lie?”
“not lie,” jimin corrects, “strategically mislead. big difference.”
jungkook exhales through his nose. “you are the worst person i know.”
“and yet, i’m the only person willing to help your pathetic ass,” jimin grins, stealing one of jungkook’s fries.
jungkook should be used to this by now. the teasing, the dramatic reenactments of how he supposedly looks when he freezes up around you (jimin does this thing where he goes stiff as a board and stares blankly into space—it’s completely inaccurate, by the way). but today, it gets under his skin more than usual. maybe because he knows he’s been avoiding this for way too long.
“whatever,” jungkook grumbles, shoving jimin’s hand away from his tray. “it’s not like i have time for dating, anyway.”
jimin rolls his eyes so hard his whole body moves with it. “oh my god, it’s not about dating. just be normal for once. be her friend. say more than two words to her that aren’t ‘thanks’ or ‘sorry’ when you accidentally bump into her in the hallway.”
jungkook hates how easily jimin reads him. it’s not like he hasn’t considered all of this before. but the thing is—he’s not good at the whole “normal” thing. he doesn’t know how to balance both sides of his life, how to let himself want something outside of the web-slinging and late-night bruises.
because what if he lets you in, and you see everything? what if you see the real him, and you don’t like what’s underneath?
“just think about it,” jimin says, shoving back from the table and tossing his empty tray onto the pile near the trash. “but not too hard. your brain might overheat.”
“ha ha,” jungkook deadpans.
but later, when he’s walking home with his hands stuffed in his pockets, he thinks about it. he thinks about it way too hard.
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today is the day. jungkook is going to do it. he’s going to walk up to you, give you his biggest award-winning smile, and he’s going to ask if you want to study together.
he’s going to do it. he’s going to do it.
he’s not going to do it.
because now you’re here—actually here, walking straight toward him, completely unaware that he’s been psyching himself up for this for the past fifteen minutes.
his heart stumbles over itself.
he keeps walking, like a normal person. normal people walk. normal people breathe. normal people don’t panic just because the girl they like is getting closer with every step.
you’re looking at your phone, scrolling absentmindedly, your brows pulling together in a way that makes jungkook wonder what you’re thinking about. your bag is slung over one shoulder, earbuds in, and you look—god, you look good. not in some over-the-top, magazine-cover way, but in the kind of way that makes his stomach feel weird and his feet feel heavier than they should.
he was not prepared for this.
his brain short-circuits. every pre-planned conversation starter he practiced disappears into the void. his feet slow down before he can stop them.
he’s close enough now that he could just say something. one word. one syllable. literally anything.
you look up.
jungkook stops breathing.
and then, like the complete disaster he is, he stops walking altogether.
which is unfortunate, because you don’t.
he realizes his mistake half a second too late, just as you get close enough that you nearly crash into him. nearly—because at the last second, you sidestep smoothly, like it’s no big deal, like you totally meant to almost collide with him just to keep things interesting.
and then you smile.
“oh! hey, jungkook!”
your voice is bright, cheery, like this is just another normal interaction between two normal classmates, not the catastrophic event jungkook’s body is currently treating it as.
his brain goes static. you said his name. you’re smiling at him. did you always smile at him like that? did the hallway lights always make you look this—
“you okay?” you ask, tilting your head. “you kinda just froze.”
jungkook blinks. Words. Say words.
“I—uh.”
good start. solid foundation.
you don’t seem fazed by his awkwardness. instead, you just grin and shift your bag higher on your shoulder. “what’s up? where are you headed?”
this is it. this is his chance. the perfect opportunity to say something cool, something casual, something that doesn’t make him sound like he’s barely holding it together.
jungkook swallows. “library.”
…right. just one word. like a total weirdo.
but somehow, you don’t seem to notice, nodding along like that was a perfectly normal response. “same! i have a psych paper due, but i was procrastinating, so now i have to power through. you too?”
jungkook should say something. something about school, or studying, or—oh, right, the reason he even stopped you in the first place.
ask her to study. ask her to study.
his mouth opens. what comes out instead is:
“you look… happy.”
he immediately wants to throw himself into the sun.
you laugh—this surprised, airy sound that makes jungkook’s chest feel tight. “thanks? i try.”
he nods. good. cool. nailed it.
(jimin is going to clown him so hard for this.)
you shift your weight, still standing in front of him like you’re actually waiting for him to contribute something meaningful to this conversation. like he’s capable of that right now.
“so,” you continue, oblivious to the fact that jungkook’s brain is actively short-circuiting, “are you studying for midterms, too? or just, like, catching up?”
this. this is his moment.
just say it, he tells himself. it’s so easy. just ask if she wants to study together. worst-case scenario, she says no, and you move on, and you never speak again, and you have to drop out of school and move to a remote island where no one knows your shame—
“yeah,” he blurts out. not an answer to your question, exactly, but something.
your smile doesn’t waver. “cool, cool.” then, as if the universe is giving him the easiest possible setup: “wanna study together?”
jungkook’s entire soul leaves his body.
because—what? what?? that was supposed to be his line. that was the whole plan. but now you’re standing there, looking at him expectantly, like this is a totally casual, no-big-deal offer.
he should say yes.
he should absolutely say yes.
“uh.”
your head tilts. “you don’t have to,” you add quickly, as if you think he’s the one who might not want your company. “i just figured, y’know, since we’re both headed there anyway…”
this is so much worse. now you’re giving him an out, and if he hesitates any longer, he’s going to look like an idiot. more than he already does.
“yeah,” he says, a little too fast. “i mean, yeah. let’s—uh. let’s do that.”
you beam, like this is the best news you’ve heard all day. “awesome! let’s go.”
then you turn, start walking, fully expecting him to follow.
and jungkook?
jungkook thinks he might actually die.
not from a supervillain attack, not from getting thrown off a building—no, it’s worse than that. he’s dying because you just asked him to study, and now he has to actually go through with it.
he forces his feet to move, catching up to your side, even though his entire body feels like it’s running on autopilot. this wasn’t how this was supposed to go. he was supposed to be the one taking the initiative, proving to himself (and to jimin, unfortunately) that he could be normal about this.
instead, he’s trailing after you like a lost puppy, barely keeping up with the conversation.
“so,” you say, tucking your phone into your bag, “what class are you studying for?”
jungkook opens his mouth—then immediately panics because he didn’t think this far ahead. he is studying, technically, but he didn’t have a specific subject in mind. his only plan was talk to you and try not to embarrass himself.
which—so far? not going great.
“uh, chemistry,” he says, because that seems like a safe bet.
you hum in acknowledgment. “oof, rough. is it that professor who hates everyone?”
“yeah,” jungkook lies, because sure. why not.
you wince sympathetically. “brutal. hope you’re not failing.”
jungkook lets out a weak laugh. hope you’re not failing. If only you knew the things he actually had to juggle on top of school. But no big deal—he can totally pretend to be a normal college student for a couple of hours.
the library comes into view, and suddenly, it hits him—he’s about to spend an actual study session with you. at the same table. breathing the same air.
“you good?” you ask, shooting him a curious glance.
jungkook clears his throat. “yeah. just—uh. mentally preparing.”
you snort. “for studying?”
“yeah.”
you shake your head, laughing. “you’re a little weird, huh?”
jungkook nearly chokes.
but you don’t say it in a bad way. you’re smiling as you say it, like you find it endearing. like it doesn’t make you want to walk away. jungkook has no idea what to do with that.
jungkook has no idea what to do with that.
his brain is still buffering by the time you step through the library doors, pushing them open with ease, like this is just another regular day for you. like you didn’t just tell him—straight to his face—that you think he’s weird.
and that you don’t seem to mind.
he follows in a daze, letting the cool, quiet atmosphere of the library settle around him. there are plenty of empty tables scattered throughout the study area, but you don’t hesitate, making a beeline for a spot near the windows. sunlight spills over the wooden surface, and you plop your bag down like you’ve claimed this space a hundred times before.
“this seat good?” you ask, pulling out a chair.
jungkook nods dumbly. “yeah. good.”
(good? what does that even mean? why does he sound like he just learned how to talk?)
you don’t seem to notice his internal struggle. instead, you pull out your laptop, sliding into the chair with the kind of ease that makes him jealous. how are you so normal about this? why does it feel like this is just a casual, no-pressure situation for you, while jungkook is actively fighting for his life?
he sits down, trying to regain control over his body. trying to focus on literally anything other than the fact that he can smell the faint scent of your shampoo from here.
(focus, he tells himself. be normal.)
you glance at him as you open your laptop. “do you need to charge anything?”
jungkook blinks. “huh?”
you gesture toward the outlet beside the table. “your laptop? phone? charger?”
right. yes. because normal people bring chargers to study sessions. normal people actually bring their school stuff.
slowly, with the painful realization that he is so unprepared for this, jungkook unzips his backpack and stares into the absolute void of nothingness inside.
no laptop. no charger. no notebook.
just… snacks. and, for some reason, an extra pair of gloves.
his stomach sinks.
you peer over curiously. “uh—did you forget your stuff?”
(lie. lie, you absolute idiot.)
“yeah,” jungkook says, forcing a laugh that does not sound normal. “guess i left it at home.”
you blink at him. then, without missing a beat, you shrug. “that’s fine! we can just share.”
his brain nearly explodes. “what?”
you gesture toward your laptop. “i mean, if you’re studying chemistry, i have my notes from last semester. we can go over them together?”
together.
as in, sitting close. looking at the same screen. existing in the same breathing space.
jungkook swallows. he is not ready for this.
but somehow, he forces his legs to move, pulling his chair closer so he can see your laptop screen. the metal legs scrape lightly against the floor, the sound embarrassingly loud in the quiet library, but you don’t seem to care.
you rest your elbows on the table as your laptop boots up, fingers tapping absently against the keys. “so, chemistry,” you say, glancing at him with a playful smirk. “you’re totally failing, huh?”
jungkook lets out a breathy laugh, hoping it doesn’t sound as nervous as he feels. “i mean. define failing.”
“oh my god.” you laugh, shaking your head. “yeah, okay, you definitely need this.”
your screen flashes on, illuminating your face as you navigate to your files. but jungkook isn’t looking at your notes.
because just before you click away, his eyes catch something else.
an open tab. a news article.
Spider-Man: Hero or Menace? City Officials Weigh In.
his heart jumps straight into his throat.
he doesn’t mean to react—doesn’t mean to tense up, doesn’t mean for his fingers to curl against his jeans—but it happens before he can stop it.
you don’t notice right away, too busy sorting through your documents. “i think i have an old study guide in here somewhere,” you mumble, scrolling. “oh! do you wanna—”
then you pause.
jungkook can feel the exact second you realize where his attention is.
you glance at the screen, then back at him.
“oh,” you say, blinking. “you’re a spider-man fan?”
he should lie.
he should lie, laugh it off, make some offhand comment about how everyone is at least a little curious about the city’s masked vigilante.
but his throat feels tight, and his brain is still processing the fact that you—of all people—were reading about him.
his hesitation must look weird because you tilt your head, smiling lightly. “i mean, i don’t blame you. he’s kind of cool, right?”
(kind of cool.)
jungkook swallows. “uh. yeah. i guess.”
you glance at the article again, then back at him. “i was just skimming,” you say, like you feel the need to explain yourself. “some people in class were talking about him, and i realized that i don’t actually know much about him, so—” you gesture vaguely at the screen, “—research?”
jungkook’s head is spinning. “research,” he echoes.
you nod, chin resting in your palm. “it’s kinda crazy, though. no one even knows who he is.”
he forces himself to breathe. to relax. to be normal.
“yeah,” he says, voice even. “crazy.”
you huff out a laugh. “what do you think? hero or menace?”
jungkook blinks. “what?”
you nod toward the article, eyes bright with curiosity. “the headline. do you think he’s a good guy? or is he, like, actually sketchy?”
he should say something neutral. something vague. something that won’t give him away.
but for some reason, looking at you—sitting there, genuinely wondering, genuinely curious—he can’t stop himself from asking:
“what do you think?”
you blink, surprised by the question. but you consider it, eyes flicking back to the screen as you chew on your bottom lip.
then, finally, “...i think he’s just trying his best.”
jungkook’s stomach flips.
you shrug, scrolling absently through the article. “i mean, yeah, the whole vigilante thing is kinda illegal, but—” you pause, then shake your head, like you’re struggling to find the right words. “i don’t think he’d do all this if he didn’t care, y’know? like, he doesn’t have to help people. but he does anyway.”
you turn back to jungkook, smiling softly. “so yeah. i think he’s a good guy.”
jungkook is silent.
because suddenly, sitting here, right next to you and hearing you say that—
he’s pretty sure you just turned him into an even bigger mess than he already was.
jungkook doesn’t know what to say.
he just sits there, staring at you, heartbeat in his ears, hands curled into fists beneath the table.
he’s just trying his best.
he swallows hard. you have no idea.
but you don’t seem to notice his internal crisis, already clicking away from the article, pulling up your notes like this conversation didn’t just make his brain short-circuit.
“okay, so, chemistry,” you announce, stretching your arms over your head before settling in. “i have, like, three different study guides, so take your pick.”
jungkook is still trying to remember how to function as a person.
he clears his throat, shifting in his seat, eyes flicking away from you as if that will help him not think about what you just said. “uh. yeah. sure.”
you hum, scrolling through your files. “oh, also—before i forget.”
he glances up. “huh?”
you flash him a grin. “you should totally tell me your opinion on spider-man sometime.”
jungkook chokes.
he should’ve seen that coming.
his reaction is immediate—too immediate, too obvious, and you blink at him like you weren’t expecting that much of a response.
he forces himself to play it off, coughing into his fist. “uh—why?”
you tilt your head, amused. “you just seemed interested, that’s all.”
interested? yeah, that’s one way to put it.
you shrug, tapping at your keyboard. “not now, though. we’re totally studying. no distractions.”
(no distractions. funny.)
jungkook nods, gripping his pencil a little too tightly. “right. studying.”
but as you start explaining your notes, flipping through equations and diagrams, jungkook isn’t paying attention.
because all he can think about is the way you looked when you said it.
like it was obvious.
like you didn’t even have to think twice.
"i think he’s a good guy."
yeah.
he’s so not ready for this.
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the next time jungkook sees you, he’s in the suit.
he doesn’t expect to find you all the way across town, so far from campus—especially not here, where the streets are rough and the people are meaner. and he definitely doesn’t expect to see you sprinting full-speed down the sidewalk.
his stomach drops. and then he sees why.
before he can think, before he can second-guess, his body moves on instinct.
jungkook swings down without hesitation, landing hard on the pavement just a few feet ahead of you. the second you see him, you skid to a stop, sneakers screeching against the concrete.
“whoa—” you breathe, wide-eyed, chest rising and falling from the sprint.
but jungkook isn’t looking at you. his focus is already behind you, on the two men barreling toward you from the other end of the street.
he doesn’t think. doesn’t hesitate.
his web shoots out before they can get any closer, yanking the first guy clean off his feet and sending him crashing into a lamppost. the second guy isn’t any smarter—he reaches for something in his jacket, but jungkook is faster, spinning and kicking the guy square in the chest before he even has a chance to react.
it’s over in seconds. too easy.
but the part jungkook wasn’t prepared for—the part making his heart pound harder than the fight itself—is you.
because when he finally turns back around, you’re still standing there, staring at him like you’ve just seen a ghost.
he swallows. he should leave. he should web them up, say something cool, and leave.
instead, he says, “you good?”
you blink at him. your breathing is still uneven, adrenaline still high, but... you smile.
“yeah,” you say, nodding. “that was… really cool.”
jungkook has been shot at before. he has been punched through windows, thrown into walls, nearly crushed by collapsing buildings. but somehow, this—you, standing there, grinning at him, eyes bright—is what almost knocks him on his ass.
he clears his throat, trying to regain control of his entire existence. “uh. yeah. just—y’know. doing my job.”
you huff a laugh. “well, thanks for that.”
(you’re thanking him. you’re actually thanking him.)
jungkook knows he should leave. he knows this.
but instead, his eyes flick to your bag, then back up to your face.
“what are you even doing here?” he blurts.
you blink, surprised by the question. “uh. getting very nearly robbed, apparently.”
jungkook exhales sharply. great. real smooth.
you shake your head, adjusting your strap. “i was just picking something up for my friend. obviously didn’t think that one through.”
jungkook doesn’t say anything, just clenches his fists at the thought of what could have happened if he hadn’t been here. if he hadn’t been on this side of town tonight.
“seriously, though,” you continue, tilting your head at him. “you okay?”
jungkook freezes. “what?”
“you just… looked kinda tense for a second.”
his brain short-circuits. because what kind of person almost gets mugged and then asks if their rescuer is okay?
he shakes his head, stepping back, forcing himself to get it together. “yeah. i’m good.”
you don’t look convinced. but you nod anyway, shifting on your feet.
“…guess this is where you do the whole mysterious-hero thing and disappear, huh?” you joke lightly.
jungkook should.
he needs to.
but he hesitates.
because for the first time, standing here, watching you look at him like this, he wonders. if he took off the mask right now...
would you still look at him the same way?
jungkook needs to leave. he should web up the guys groaning on the pavement, throw out a quick “stay safe,” and disappear into the night like he always does.
but he doesn’t.
because you’re still looking at him. really looking at him. and for some reason, that makes it impossible to move.
he swallows, gripping his fingers into fists at his sides. don’t be stupid. don’t linger. don’t let yourself wonder.
his fingers twitch.
he almost—almost—reaches up.
but then you sigh, shaking your head with a small, amused smile. “well, thanks again, spider-man,” you say, rocking back on your heels. “i should probably get going before more weirdos show up.”
just like that, the moment shatters.
jungkook blinks, the weight of reality crashing back in.
right. spider-man.
not jungkook. not a guy who shares your chemistry class, who has spent so much time psyching himself up just to talk to you like a normal person.
just a masked stranger you’ll forget about by morning.
he exhales, finally forcing himself to take a step back. “yeah,” he mutters. “probably a good idea.”
you nod, gripping the strap of your bag. “guess i’ll see you around?”
jungkook hesitates. he shouldn’t answer that. he shouldn’t make promises. but then—because he’s apparently the biggest idiot alive—he hears himself say,
“yeah.”
your lips twitch, eyes flicking over him one last time. and then, without another word, you turn and walk away.
jungkook watches you go, his chest tight, his heart pounding like he just walked out of a fight.
and that—the way he feels right now, standing frozen in the middle of the street, watching you disappear around the corner—is more terrifying than anything he’s ever faced.
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after that first time, jungkook just keeps running into you.
you’ve been caught up in a gas station robbery. your train got derailed. been a victim in three separate mugging attempts.
either you’re trying to manifest him showing up, or you might actually be the unluckiest person jungkook has ever met.
and the worst part?
you don’t even seem bothered.
the first couple of times, sure—you were a little shaken up, a little breathless, wide-eyed and gripping your bag like it was the only thing keeping you grounded. but by the fourth time he drops out of the sky to save you, you barely even flinch.
“oh,” you say, blinking up at him as he lands in front of you, cutting off yet another guy who thought it would be a great idea to corner you in an alley. “you again.”
jungkook stares. you again?
he webs the guy’s wrist before he can bolt, yanking him forward just enough to knock him out cold with one clean punch. then, once the guy is down and sufficiently tied up, he turns back to you. arms crossed. head tilted.
“...okay,” he says slowly. “you have got to be doing this on purpose.”
you snort, shaking your head as you adjust your bag strap. “oh, totally. i go wandering through crime-infested areas just hoping you’ll show up.”
he points at you. “see? that’s exactly what someone who’s doing this on purpose would say.”
you just roll your eyes, amused. “do you think i want to be constantly in danger?”
jungkook narrows his eyes. “...i don’t know. do you?”
you laugh—actually laugh—and something about the sound makes his stomach do something weird and annoying.
“trust me, spider-man,” you say, pulling your jacket tighter around yourself. “if i had it my way, you and i would never be seeing each other again.”
for some reason, that makes his chest tighten. he should let it go. he should web this guy to a fire escape for the cops to find and leave. but instead, he hears himself saying, “what were you doing here, anyway?”
you blink. “going home?”
“through an alley?”
“it’s a shortcut.”
jungkook throws up his hands. “it’s also where people get mugged!”
you squint at him like he’s being dramatic. “not all the time.”
jungkook lets out a deep sigh, pinching the bridge of his nose. “oh my god.”
you snicker. “relax. i’ll take the long way next time, okay?”
he doesn’t believe you. not even a little bit. but he can’t exactly force you to change your entire route home.
he exhales, shaking his head. “if you say so.”
you smirk, tilting your head. “aww, do you worry about me, spider-man?”
jungkook nearly chokes.
“what— no. no, i—” he shakes his head aggressively, backing up like that will help him recover. “i worry about the crime rate.”
you nod, way too entertained. “right. of course.”
he glares. “i do.”
“sure, sure.”
he groans, already regretting everything about this conversation.
and then—because he really needs to get out of here before he embarrasses himself any further—he steps back, flexing his fingers before shooting out a web.
but just before he swings away, he hears you call out:
“see you next time, spider-man.”
he freezes.
because that almost sounded like a promise.
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“dude.”
jungkook sighs. “no.”
“dude.”
“jimin, no.”
“duuuude.” jimin is vibrating in his seat, practically buzzing with excitement as he leans across the cafeteria table. “you know what this means, right?”
jungkook takes an aggressive bite of his sandwich, staring him down. “that i have terrible luck?”
jimin gasps dramatically, clutching his chest like jungkook just personally offended him. “terrible luck? bro, are you hearing yourself? this isn’t bad luck—this is literally fate.”
jungkook makes a face. “it’s really not.”
“okay, so let’s go over this one more time,” jimin says, ignoring him entirely. he starts ticking off on his fingers. “you meet this girl in class. you like her. but you’re too much of a coward to do anything about it—”
jungkook glares. “thanks.”
“—and then, suddenly, the universe just keeps throwing her in your path. over and over and over again. and not just in normal, everyday ways—no, no, no. she gets into highly dangerous situations that just so happen to require your heroic intervention.”
he wiggles his fingers dramatically. “it’s like magic.”
jungkook takes another bite, chewing slowly. “or, and hear me out—maybe she just has bad luck.”
“bad luck doesn’t land you in the same masked superhero’s path five different times,” jimin says, slapping his hand on the table. “this is literally the plot of, like, half the romcoms i’ve ever seen.”
jungkook groans, dropping his head onto the table.
“you’re actually insane,” he mumbles into his arms.
“insanely right,” jimin corrects, grinning.
jungkook lifts his head just enough to squint at him. “you’re telling me that if you got randomly mugged three times in the span of a month, you’d consider it romantic?”
jimin shrugs. “depends on who’s saving me.”
jungkook groans again, slumping further into the table.
jimin, unbothered, just leans in closer. “look, bro, all i’m saying is—you clearly have some cosmic connection to this girl. so use it.”
“use it?” jungkook repeats, deadpan.
“yes. as in, maybe instead of waiting for her next near-death experience, you actually talk to her for real.”
jungkook scowls. “i have talked to her.”
jimin makes a face. “you’ve talked to her as spider-man. that doesn’t count.”
jungkook hesitates.
because… yeah. he has technically talked to you. but barely as himself. hardly without the mask. and the worst part?
he kind of likes it that way.
because spider-man isn’t awkward. spider-man doesn’t trip over his words, or overthink every interaction, or panic every time you smile at him.
spider-man is confident. quick. easy.
but jungkook? jungkook is an absolute mess.
he presses his lips together, staring down at what’s left of his sandwich.
jimin watches him, expression shifting slightly. “look,” he says, voice a little softer now. “you don’t have to do anything. but… don’t you think it’s a little crazy that she keeps showing up in your life like this?”
jungkook doesn’t answer.
because yeah.
it is crazy.
but what’s even crazier is the way he already knows this isn’t the last time it’ll happen.
jimin squints at him. “wait, hold on.”
jungkook braces himself, because he knows that look. that’s the i’m about to make your life hell look.
“didn’t you guys, like… study together once?” jimin asks, tilting his head.
jungkook shifts uncomfortably. “uh. yeah.”
jimin slaps the table. “exactly. so that means you already had an in.”
jungkook sighs, rubbing his temple. “what’s your point?”
“my point is,” jimin says, voice heavy with dramatic exasperation, “you had a perfectly normal, non-life-threatening interaction with her before all of this. meaning, you had every opportunity to follow up—y’know, send a text, sit next to her in class, act like a human being.”
jungkook stares at his sandwich, avoiding eye contact.
jimin’s grin sharpens. “...so?”
jungkook exhales, slumping back in his seat. “i, uh… didn’t actually talk to her again,” he mutters.
jimin blinks. “after studying?”
jungkook nods, already regretting admitting anything.
jimin’s jaw drops. “not once?”
jungkook shrugs helplessly. “i was gonna, but then—”
jimin points an accusatory finger at him. “but then you saved her as spider-man and decided that totally counted as interacting with her, didn’t you?”
jungkook opens his mouth. closes it. scratches the back of his neck.
jimin gasps.
“oh my god,” he says, full-body flopping back in his chair. “you absolute loser.”
jungkook groans. “i know.”
“no, you don’t know, because if you did know, you would have done something about it.”
jungkook buries his face in his hands.
“i tried, okay? but it’s—” he groans, dragging his hands down his face, “—it’s just easier this way.”
jimin levels him with the flattest look imaginable.
“easier?” he repeats. “easier how?”
jungkook hesitates. because if he says it out loud, then it’s real. but jimin is staring at him, waiting, and—well.
he’s already lost his dignity at this point.
“…spider-man is cool,” jungkook mutters finally, eyes glued to the table. “spider-man doesn’t get nervous, or embarrass himself, or say dumb shit and then want to throw himself off a building.”
jimin snorts. “oh, buddy. that’s cute. you think you haven’t embarrassed yourself?”
jungkook glares. “shut up.”
jimin is grinning now, full and unrestrained. “bro. do you realize how weird you probably sound to her? imagine getting rescued by the same guy five times in a row and every time he acts progressively more awkward about it.”
jungkook groans. “i hate you.”
“no you don’t,” jimin says, smug.
jungkook drops his head onto the table again. because, unfortunately, he’s right.
jungkook groans into the table. “okay. fine. let’s say you’re right—”
“i am right.”
“—and i have been weird about it—”
“super weird.”
jungkook lifts his head just enough to glare. “jimin.”
jimin grins, unrepentant. “continue.”
jungkook exhales sharply, scrubbing a hand down his face. “whatever. what am i even supposed to do now? just waltz up to her in class and pretend i haven’t been awkwardly saving her from disaster every other week?”
jimin shrugs. “yeah.”
jungkook stares. “you cannot be serious.”
“why not?” jimin says, stealing a fry off jungkook’s plate. “you already know she’s cool. she doesn’t freak out around you, she doesn’t think spider-man’s a menace, and she definitely isn’t scared of you—”
jungkook scoffs. “yeah, because she doesn’t know it’s me.”
jimin points at him with the stolen fry. “exactly! you have nothing to lose!”
jungkook squints. “that’s not how that works.”
jimin waves him off. “look, bro. i love you. i do. but you overthink literally everything.”
jungkook frowns. “i do not.”
jimin gives him a look so flat it could be legally classified as a murder weapon.
jungkook shifts. “…okay, sometimes.”
jimin nods approvingly. “glad we’re on the same page.” he shoves the fry into his mouth before pointing at jungkook again. “so, let’s think about this logically.”
jungkook groans. “oh, now we’re thinking logically?”
jimin ignores him. “you already know she likes talking to spider-man. you’ve literally heard her say she thinks he’s a good guy. and you also know she was cool with studying with you before you started avoiding her like a total dumbass.”
jungkook winces. “ouch.”
jimin grins. “so, what does that tell us?”
jungkook crosses his arms, scowling. “that i’m a dumbass?”
“correct. but more importantly,” jimin leans forward, voice going annoyingly dramatic, “it means you’re already in.”
jungkook blinks. “what?”
jimin gestures vaguely. “she already likes you. not just spider-man, but you-you. maybe she doesn’t have a crush or anything—”
jungkook’s face burns at the mere mention of the possibility. “dude—”
“—but at the very least, she doesn’t hate you,” jimin finishes, undeterred. “so, all you have to do is act normal for once in your life, and maybe—maybe—you can stop making things harder than they need to be.”
jungkook stares at him.
jimin stares back.
“…that’s it?” jungkook asks, skeptical.
jimin shrugs. “that’s it.”
jungkook exhales.
because—okay. maybe it does make sense. maybe he is overcomplicating things, like he always does. maybe he really is just making his life ten times harder for no reason.
but then he thinks about actually doing it—about sitting down next to you again, about saying hey like it’s nothing, like he hasn’t been a complete coward for weeks.
and suddenly, he’s panicking all over again.
“…okay,” he mutters. “sure. i’ll talk to her.”
jimin beams. “hell yeah.”
“eventually.”
jimin’s smile drops. “no.”
“yes.”
“jungkook—”
jungkook shoves the rest of his sandwich in his mouth and stands up. “gotta go, bye.”
“jungkook, don’t you dare walk away from me—”
but jungkook is already halfway across the cafeteria, ignoring the way jimin’s voice follows him, loud and accusing.
because, yeah.
maybe he’ll talk to you.
but eventually sounds a hell of a lot safer than right now.
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it turns out you end up talking to him first.
jungkook barely has time to process the end of the lecture before you’re suddenly there, standing next to his desk, shifting on your feet like you’re nervous about something.
which is weird.
because you’re never nervous. not when you were nearly mugged, not when a guy pulled a knife on you, not when you looked spider-man in the eye and grinned at him like it was just another Tuesday.
but now, standing here, looking at him?
you’re fidgeting.
and jungkook’s brain immediately starts malfunctioning.
“hey,” you say, voice a little softer than usual.
jungkook stares.
then, realizing that yes, this is real, he forces himself to swallow the dumb why are you talking to me that nearly slips out.
“uh. hey,” he says instead.
you shift your bag higher on your shoulder. “so, um.” you clear your throat, glancing around the emptying lecture hall. “this might be kind of random, but… do you, uh. know anyone who tutors?”
jungkook blinks. “tutors?”
you nod, still looking strangely hesitant. “yeah. for chemistry.”
chemistry.
the subject he lied about needing help with.
jungkook can feel the irony punching him directly in the face.
but beyond that, beyond the fact that he is absolutely not qualified to help you with this, there’s something else creeping into his mind.
the fact that you came to him.
out of everyone in this class—hell, out of everyone on campus—you chose to ask him.
his stomach flips.
it has to be fate, right? this is too much of a coincidence. after all the near-misses, after all the nights he spent convincing himself to just talk to you already—you end up coming to him first?
it doesn’t feel real.
but you’re still standing there, watching him expectantly, waiting for an answer.
jungkook swallows. “uh. yeah. i mean, i—” he clears his throat, scrambling to make his voice sound normal. “i can ask around.”
your shoulders drop a little, like you were bracing for rejection. “oh. cool. yeah, that would be great.”
you pause, glancing at him, hesitant. “and, um… if you hear of anyone good, could you maybe… let me know?”
jungkook nods so fast he nearly gives himself whiplash. “yeah. of course.”
your lips curve into a soft smile. “thanks, jungkook.”
his breath stutters.
(oh, he is so screwed.)
and then, just like that, you wave and disappear out the door, leaving him sitting there in the empty lecture hall, gripping his desk like it’s the only thing keeping him tethered to the earth.
he doesn’t move for a solid minute.
his heart is still hammering, his brain is still catching up, and all he can think is jimin is going to have a field day with this.
and jimin fucking does.
“you’re actually kidding me.”
jimin is staring at jungkook like he just confessed to being an alien.
they’re in jungkook’s apartment, controllers in hand, some game running on the screen—but jimin has completely forgotten about it, pausing mid-match to turn and gawk at him.
jungkook, on the other hand, is doing his best to act normal. which is hard, considering his entire life has just been flipped upside down.
“i’m not kidding,” jungkook mutters, keeping his eyes glued to the screen. “it happened.”
jimin lets out a loud, incredulous laugh, tossing his controller onto the couch. “so let me get this straight. you—who have been avoiding this girl like she’s an actual fire hazard—you were literally just sitting there, minding your own business, and she just walks up to you? and asks for a tutor??”
jungkook grits his teeth. “yes.”
jimin cackles, grabbing a pillow and whacking him over the head with it.
“bro, fate is spoon-feeding you a love story and you’re just sitting there like a fucking brick!”
jungkook groans, shoving the pillow away. “okay, first of all, relax. it’s not a love story.”
jimin scoffs. “it could be.”
“it’s not.”
“it could be.”
jungkook sighs aggressively, running a hand down his face.
jimin flops dramatically against the couch, shaking his head. “so? what did you say?”
“i said i’d ask around.”
jimin blinks. “you said you’d—” he stops, eyes narrowing. “...ask around.”
jungkook shifts. “…yes?”
silence.
“you idiot!” jimin yells, smacking his arm.
“ow!” jungkook jerks away, scowling. “what? what was i supposed to say?”
“literally that you could tutor her yourself!”
jungkook’s stomach flips. “i can’t tutor her, dumbass, i'm barely passing chemistry myself.”
jimin throws up his hands. “bro, she doesn’t know that! just pretend!”
“pretend?”
“yes! look up some notes, re-learn a few things, do what you need to do!”
jungkook shakes his head aggressively. “no way. i am not tutoring her when i don’t know shit.”
jimin levels him with a deadpan stare. “so instead, you’re just gonna, what? let her go find some other guy to tutor her?”
jungkook freezes.
jimin grins. “ah.”
jungkook clenches his jaw. “fuck you.”
“no, no, let’s think about this,” jimin continues, voice full of fake contemplation. “some dude, sitting real close, explaining things all smart and helpful. maybe he’s got nice hands. maybe he’s charming. maybe he’s better at chemistry than you—”
jungkook throws a pillow at his face.
jimin laughs as he catches it. “so? what’s the move, lover boy?”
jungkook scowls, but deep down, he already knows.
he sighs, letting his head fall back against the couch.
“…i’m gonna have to tutor her, aren’t i?”
jimin claps a hand on his shoulder, shaking him with excitement.
“yes, you absolutely are.”
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jungkook hasn’t seen you in days.
which is weird, because ever since this whole thing started, you’ve been everywhere. in class, in study sessions, in the middle of very questionable situations that require his immediate intervention.
but now?
now, you’ve just vanished.
he’s checked the usual places—your usual seat in lecture, the library, even the coffee shop on the corner where he thinks he saw you once. nothing. no sign of you anywhere.
he doesn’t know why it bothers him so much.
(yes, he does.)
but he pushes it out of his mind. or at least, he tries.
because right now, he’s got other things to focus on—like swinging through the city at just the right angle to catch the breeze, flipping effortlessly between buildings, scanning the streets for trouble.
except there is no trouble. not tonight. it’s weird. quiet. almost peaceful.
and then he sees you.
not running. not being chased. not clutching your bag like your life depends on it.
just… standing there.
paintbrush in hand, clothes speckled with color, entirely focused on the massive mural in front of you.
jungkook nearly crashes into a building.
he just barely manages to recover, swinging onto a rooftop ledge, crouching down to watch from a safe distance.
because what the hell?
you’re supposed to be in a classroom. or getting into some ridiculous situation that requires his immediate assistance. not this. not standing in the middle of an empty lot, surrounded by paint cans, filling an entire wall with streaks of blue and gold.
you look… calm.
you step back, tilting your head at your work, lips pursed in thought. then, with a small nod, you dip your brush into another color and go right back to it.
jungkook stares.
because somehow, in all this time, in all the chaotic ways he’s seen you before—he’s never seen you like this.
focused. steady. completely lost in something you love.
he exhales, watching the way the city lights catch in your hair, the way your brows pinch slightly when you concentrate.
for once, he doesn’t have to worry about saving you.
for once, he just gets to watch.
before he can help himself, jungkook is swinging down.
it’s instinct, like muscle memory—one second, he’s crouched on the ledge, watching from a safe distance, and the next, he’s mid-air, descending toward you before his brain can even catch up.
he lands a few feet away, boots hitting the pavement with a soft thud.
you don’t even flinch.
just glance over your shoulder, brush still poised against the wall, and say “hey, spider-man.”
jungkook freezes.
because—what?
no startled jump, no wide-eyed what the fuck?, no immediate questioning of why a masked vigilante just casually dropped into your art session. just… hey, spider-man. like he’s some guy from your lecture hall, like you expected him to show up.
his brain malfunctions. “uh.”
you smirk, finally lowering your brush. “you always this quiet?”
jungkook clears his throat, scrambling to pull himself together. “uh—no, just… wasn’t expecting you to be so—” he gestures vaguely, “—chill about this.”
you tilt your head. “should i not be?”
“i mean, most people don’t just greet me like i’m their next-door neighbor.”
you hum, considering. “well, most people don’t run into you five times in a row, either.”
jungkook exhales sharply. “true.”
you grin, then turn back to your mural, wiping your hands against your paint-stained hoodie. “so,” you say, glancing at him. “what brings you here? crime’s looking pretty low tonight.”
jungkook falters.
because yeah. crime is low. there was literally no reason for him to come down here. he just saw you. and… well.
you smile knowingly, like you can see the wheels turning in his head. “you were watching me, weren’t you?”
jungkook chokes.
“what— no. no, i—” he shakes his head aggressively, backing up like that will help him recover. “i was patrolling.”
you arch a brow. “patrolling from a rooftop directly above me?”
he groans. “oh my god.”
you laugh, bright and easy, and jungkook swears his entire world tilts for a second. “relax,” you say, dipping your brush into a new color. “it’s kind of flattering, actually.”
jungkook short-circuits. “it’s what?”
you just wink. “so, you sticking around, or was this just a quick check-in?”
jungkook should leave.
he knows that.
but then you turn back to your mural, completely at ease, completely unbothered by the fact that you’re casually talking to spider-man like it’s the most normal thing in the world.
and jungkook, against all logic, against all common sense, sits down on the curb.
“guess i’ll stick around.”
you glance over when you hear him sit, eyebrows raising slightly. but you don’t question it, don’t make it weird. just hum, like this is normal, like masked vigilantes dropping into your painting sessions is a completely regular thing.
jungkook doesn’t know what to do with that.
you dip your brush into another color, dragging long, confident strokes across the wall.
for a while, neither of you speak.
it’s… oddly comfortable.
jungkook watches, elbows resting on his knees, head tilted as he tries to figure out what you’re painting. it’s not quite clear yet, but the colors blend together in a way that makes his chest feel weirdly tight. like something about it is important.
finally, he clears his throat.
“so… what is it?”
you pause, glancing at him before looking back at the wall. “not sure yet.”
jungkook squints. “you’re not sure?”
you smirk. “it’s a process.”
he huffs a soft laugh. “so you’re just winging it?”
“more like… feeling it out,” you correct. you step back, tilting your head, eyes scanning over the patterns of color like you’re looking for something only you can see.
jungkook doesn’t know why, but that makes sense.
for a while, he doesn’t say anything else. just watches as you paint, as your hands move with purpose, as you fill the blank spaces with something real.
and then, before he can stop himself, “why do you do it?”
you pause, brush still hovering over the wall.
jungkook feels his stomach drop. “uh—you don’t have to answer that, i was just—”
“because it’s mine.”
he stops.
you’re still looking at the mural, voice calm, steady. “it’s something i can make real. something i can create, and leave behind, and know it’s mine. even if someone paints over it later.”
jungkook stares at you.
because, for some reason, that hits him in a way he wasn’t prepared for.
he doesn’t know what to say, so he doesn’t say anything. just watches as you pick up where you left off, like you didn’t just shake something loose in his chest. and that’s when it hits him. this is the first time he’s ever spent time with you without worrying about saving you. the first time he’s seen you just be.
and it’s terrifying.
because suddenly, jungkook isn’t sure what scares him more.
the thought of you getting hurt again, or the thought of you never looking at him the way you look at spider-man right now.
jungkook hates this. hates the way his stomach twists every time you look at him—at spider-man—like this. open, unguarded, like you trust him. like he’s someone worth trusting. hates the way he wants you to keep looking at him like that.
because he knows this isn’t real. or at least, not fully real. not like it would be if it were him sitting here beside you, mask off, just jungkook.
(but would you even talk to him if you knew?)
he exhales slowly, pressing his palms against his knees. you don’t seem to notice his internal crisis, still completely focused on your painting, eyebrows furrowed just slightly in concentration.
“you’re staring,” you say after a moment, not looking away from the wall.
jungkook jolts. “what? no, i’m not.”
you smirk, finally glancing at him. “you totally are.”
he crosses his arms, tilting his head at you. “you want me to lie?”
“i want you to at least try to be subtle about it.”
he scoffs. “okay, and what exactly am i supposed to be staring at? the back of your head?”
“or my art.” you gesture to the mural dramatically. “y’know, the thing that’s actually interesting here.”
jungkook huffs a quiet laugh. “yeah, okay. so what’s it supposed to be now?”
you step back, surveying your work. “dunno.”
he stares. “so you still don’t know?”
you shrug. “told you. it’s a process.”
jungkook exhales, shaking his head. “yeah, well. not every process ends up making sense.”
“maybe not right away,” you say, glancing at him. “but eventually.”
eventually.
the word sticks in his head, clinging to something deeper, something he doesn’t want to think about right now.
so instead, he sighs, shifting to stand. “well, don’t get mugged while you’re doing your whole process thing.”
you grin. “what, no more rooftop patrols?”
“depends,” he says, adjusting his gloves. “you planning on wandering into any more dark alleys?”
you pretend to think about it. “maybe. depends on the shortcut.”
jungkook groans. “i hate you.”
you just laugh, waving your brush at him in a mock salute. “see you next time, spider-man.”
jungkook’s fingers twitch.
he should leave. but instead, he lingers—just for a second. because for the first time, he knows something you don’t. he knows he’ll see you again. not just like this, not just as spider-man, but as himself.
because eventually isn’t good enough anymore.
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my hot take is that i think 6 would be the ideal number of seasons for wotshow! i know everybody gasps and clutches their pearls anytime i suggest that less than 8 seasons could actually work and be good and be plenty of time haha and for that reason i will make this unrebloggable, mostly just musing to myself over here, not looking to start an argument! but if we put s4 finale as dumai's wells, which is a big turning point in the series.........i honestly struggle to imagine 4 full seasons' worth of story for most of the main characters after that point. most of them kinda only have 1 major story arc between dumai's wells and last battle prep, tbh, and the rest of the pagetime in all those books is made up of either cuttable sidequests (ebou dar, far madding, etc) or cuttable minor characters and their cuttable subplots eating up an absolutely inordinate amount of pagetime while the mains tread water and take 4 books to accomplish something they should've been able to do in 1. it's also worth noting that stuff often takes less time to do in the show than we might assume; for example, a lot of people might assume mat's moiraine rescue heist should take up half of an episode since it's important, but it's actually not that long of a sequence and i bet they could do it in like 10-15 minutes.
now for a layout of how each main character could do 6 seasons!
rand: s4 dealing with caemlyn and maybe also cairhien with anvaere as colavaere, finale dumai's wells leaving him ready to downward spiral into a dark place next season; s5 darth rand as the season-long emotional arc with smaller plot beats like the cleansing and semirhage peppered throughout (cairhien could also be placed here), finale epiphany; s6 loose ends (like bonding with his partners, which i feel could work great as a post-epiphany narrative reward rather than being crammed in before he starts going downhill) and last battle
egwene: s4 going to salidar and being raised amyrlin maybe as the midseason climax, then second half of season heading for tar valon with finale cliffhanger being kidnapped; s5 tower arc, finale seanchan battle; s6 loose ends (gawene, TAR battle with mesaana's substitute unless that somehow gets folded into the seanchan battle) and last battle
perrin: s4 maybe masema is dealt with early to fill up perrin's TFOH absence, finale dumai's wells; s5 faile kidnapping arc married to his TOM whitecloak alliance storyline by having galad's whitecloaks be his devil-deal for rescuing faile rather than the seanchan (and maybe it's the seanchan who kidnap faile, thus letting the shaido be done with after dumai's wells and ensuring all the main characters are narratively connected to the seanchan during s5); s6 loose ends and last battle
mat: s4 forming the band and maybe leading them at dumai's wells as the culmination; s5 some kind of storyline that covers his tuon and seanchan involvement, though i imagine the circumstances would have to be fairly different from canon if ebou dar is indeed cut (maybe he absorbs ituralde and leads campaigns against the seanchan on rand's behalf, which brings him into tuon's path, though idk how it would play out after that since he wouldn't abandon his own army to haul her off on a solo roadtrip, unless maybe something happened to force him to); s6 loose ends (moiraine rescue - i think it would make more sense as an early-season event in the final season, and in the penultimate season finale all we get is a cliffhanger tease that moiraine might be alive) and last battle
nynaeve: barely has any story to speak of after ebou dar besides being a cheerleader for rand/lan/elayne, so even for a 6-season model they'd probably have to make stuff up for her (i still like my previous suggestion of rand having sent ALL his partners away during darth rand time, which here would be s5, and so nynaeve is the one he almost kills during the collaring incident, and this causes him to send her away too, to the black tower where she and logain basically replace pevara and androl in cleaning up that mess, thus ensuring this important storyline is in the hands of a main character, neatly paralleling egwene's efforts to clean up the mess at the white tower during the same season, tying out nynaeve's connections with logain as the one who healed him AND in showverse as someone who also witnessed his gentling and whom he was impressed by, and being a poetic conclusion to the show's flirtation with the idea of nynaeve joining the red ajah by having her instead be a key figure in *helping* men who can channel)
elayne: s4 rejoins the waste crew to get folded into avirand's relationship and work with rand on retaking caemlyn; s5 succession arc; s6 loose ends (cairhien throne maybe) and last battle
the main issue here is that that's putting a whole bunch of major climactic events in the s5 finale (rand's epiphany, egwene vs. the seanchan, perrin's battle of malden, elayne's battle that makes her queen), but i'm sure they could spread these across two different episodes like s3 is doing (perhaps elayne & perrin in ep7 and egwene & rand in ep8). and there also isn't a great way to *not* have all these late-series climaxes coincide unless some characters have their single late-series storyline stretched across 2 seasons, which i'd say is a big no-no for TV.
so, yeah! i'd never say no to 7 or 8 seasons of course, but when *i* game it out, 6 is the number i naturally land on, although i know i'm much more merciless about cutting stuff than a lot of readers are! hell, even rafe is taking s3 at a slower pace than i'd initially proposed back before we knew anything. 6 also has the advantage of being a pretty reasonable and realistic number to hope for in today's television landscape (WOT's sister-show ROP is slated for 5, so reasonable to imagine WOT might land somewhere around that number too). 5 seasons would be tight but doable, 7 or 8 would be luxurious, but i would be extremely pleased to get 6 even if that's less than rafe's max possible number.
my final note is that i suspect we are now around about the Decision Point where amazon has to let rafe know how many total seasons he'll get so he can plan out s4 accordingly, and thus i also suspect that s3 will leave everyone pretty much exactly in their TSR ending spots, which would make them all well-positioned to pivot into different things in s4 depending on the future plan. (for example, say elayne and nynaeve are still in tanchico at the end of s3. this way, if it's decided there will be 7 or 8 seasons, they can head off to salidar in s4 and take time for a sidequest, whereas if it's decided there will be 5 or 6 seasons, they may have to scoot straight over to rand & co right off the bat in s4 to get ready to launch into the caemlyn arc.)
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Idk if ya have any rules or if you only do nsfw but could I have some hcs on how lucifer is with a crush and how he asks asks reader out? You can include some nsfw though as I wouldnt complain about it ;) My brain has been rotted by lucifer smut mmgh
Thank you for reminding me to post a Guideline for asks. Here ya go, I hope you enjoy, Anon!
Rating: Fluff
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Lucifer couldnt figure out what was wrong with him, Why were you the only thing on his mind? Whenever his mind drifted off, he found himself thinking about your smile. Then, just for a minute, he thought about holding your hand. Feeling flustered, he shook his head.
"Why am i thinking about a lowley human?" he sighed, attempting to fixate on his workload.
Scribbling in the blank notes, he squinted a tad. Slipping back into his previous thoughts, letting his mind go back to the image of you two, together. Lucifer thought about how you would react if he surprised you with an article of clothing or classy jewels. And if he did, what kind of item would be the most fitting?
His heart beat faster as he pictured you wearing what he picked out, buffing his pride just from a fantasy. Lucifer thought about you wearing his color, red, not just any tacky red, Deep, ruby red. He chuckled, before coming back to reality.
"Wait, did I actually write down their name??" he looked down in disbelief, quickly erasing the words.
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Lucifer stood by the entrance of the RAD garden, fixated on what he was holding. Earlier he had texted you to meet him where he was standing, now he was waiting for you to arrive. He would finally get to tell you what he'd been burning to say. By this point, he realized that he was in love with you.
Tracing his finger against the smooth surface of the Jade bracelet he had bought for you. Lucifer cracked after seeing it in the window of an antique artifacts shop, he'd been trying to find a way to ask you out, and this was perfect.
He quickly shoved the bracelet into his pocket upon hearing the thump of your footsteps.
"Hi Lucifer, You wanted to meet me here? What's the occasion?" You smiled, not knowing it warmed his heart to see.
"no occasion, I just didn't want my obnoxious brothers bothering us. Come with me, I want to show you something." he chuckled, turning on his heel to enter the garden.
"Oh a stroll with the ever-busy Lucifer, are you sure there's no occasion?" you trolled alongside him, teasing him a bit
You breathed in deeply, inhaling the scents of the garden. You took in the sights, viewing a mix of flowers from the demon world and the celestial realm.
"What, I'm not allowed to spend time with you, just the two of us?" He smirked, stopping in front of a patch of red, strange-looking flowers.
He leaned down, plucking one of the flowers from the ground. "Do you know what this is, Mc?" he said, holding it up
"No, I can't say I do. What is it?" you cocked your head to the side, feeling a familiar sense within the flower
He inched towards you, tucking the flower between your ear and head. "Lycoris radiate, The red spider lily. You've probably seen it before, it's from the Human world. As you know, this garden features a variety of flowers, some from the Celestial Realm and some from the Devildom. But..." he paused for a moment
"There were very any human world flowers here, and in light of your presence...I campaigned for one to be planted here." He smiled, gazing into your eyes
"I also wanted you to have this," he continued, reaching into his pocket "I saw it in the window of an Artifacts shop, and I knew you had to have it."
"Lucifer...you really did all this for me?!" you laughed, reaching for the bracelet
"So you haven't figured it out yet?" He chuckled, bringing your hand into his "I Love you, Mc." He said, slipping the bracelet onto your wrist.
"I Love you too, Lucifer!" you laughed, leaning into his arms to embrace him in a hug.
"For a moment, I thought you might not say it back" He cupped your face, leaning in to kiss you
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I will make a smut version soon! i won't leave you guys high and dry!
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octaviono8fan · 2 years ago
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i wonder if these are related
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fluentisonus · 3 months ago
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working in a factory has you thinking so much about the insane chain of labor & transport that goes into making literally anything
#like first you realize that You are making & doing things that you previously had thought - if you'd thought abt it at all - were automated#& you become incredibly aware of how all the materials you're working with came from somewhere - these plastic clips are from france; this#fabric is from india etc. and that there are people in factories there making those things and that they are also probably getting their#materials from somewhere#one of the little things that makes me think about this the most is we have these 50m rolls of cotton banding we see onto canvas & nets#and in theory it should be all one piece but sometimes it's actually two pieces which you discover when you get far enough in the roll and#find that there's a join where it's been stitched together by hand (!). which is a little annoying bc we can't use that bit so you have#to cut that but out & stitch it together again on the machine which interrupts what you were sewing before & slows you down But it's so#striking to me bc like it's really easy to look at this banding & it's so exactly the same & obviously machine made it's Really easy to#forget that there are people there running these machines. who notice there's a break & have to stop what they're doing & get a needle &#thread and stitch it together. by hand! like someone somewhere has handled exactly where I'm touching it & i don't even know where in the#world they are!#the other place this happens is often on the selvedge edge of the fabric there's writing in pencil i don't know ye meaning of but evidently#was important to the process somewhere & someone wrote that out#idk like it's really easy to watch those videos of really specific machines in factories & convince yourself that everything is automated#but the truth is the vast majority of stuff is not & is made by people doing that. & even when it is there are people running those machine#<- and i'm not saying this in a soppy way tbc. this whole system is a nightmare of exploitation & to some degree I'm just continually amaze#by how insane this whole process is & also how completely un-transparent it is unless you are made to think abt it#another thing is noticeable when you look at our orders that most of what we sell isn't to customers it's to shops who then sell to custome#which then makes you think like. those plastic clips from france are they actually made in france or are we just buying them from france?#are they actually made by underpaid people in a country the name of which is completely lost to the chain of production at this point#anyways none of this is new it's just when you are working in a factory using this stuff you start wondering like.#what's the factory like that the person who stitched this banding together like. what's their day like there#wish we could talk abt how fucked up this all is - for them especially probably - together#thoughts
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moonlume · 1 year ago
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tumblr said draw something bad so I did but I'm mad I still didn't feel anything
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spotaus · 4 months ago
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Late Night quick thing (New Age Sillies)
Bad news: That joke post about including Reset + Orchid is definitely not canon. (I legit got sad thinking about Reset being in a universe where Orchid isn't- because their stories are so so intertwined- but Nightmare 100% would NOT risk the whole twins exploding Error's soul thing.)
Good news: This means I COULD include Kane (Reset's older brother who usually dies in timelines where Reset is born) and use it to develope his character a bit more! Also! Perhaps a Blue × Dream kiddo is finally in the stars for me to design?
#new age au#really enjoying the idea of Reaper + Geno having an heir at some point (and them sending that heir over to Night's kingdom for#exposure to other places as well as to hang with his third cool knight dad who's hard at work 🙏)#Kane has little to no development besides being a perfect angel (foil to Reset's eventual turn to poor choices) so I'd love to do#to him what I do to every oc of mine. (Namely: Throw them into the Kingdom and see what they do.)#oh! and I could see Blue and Dream (beloved boys) listening to the warnings of possible complications if they try to have a lil babybones#and Dream deciding he'd take the risk and carry the growing soul#(<- though tbf this is MANY years into the future and they'd be well established knights of the realm)#i'm not evil so they *would* manage to avoid the twins curse and have a singular beautiful babybones#they'd get raised partially on the move but stay behind with Night and Error if the two had a more dangerous mission#and grow up to be an obnoxiously powerful warrior following after their dads#(but they'd probably be hesitant to follow into the footsteps of being a knight and might go on a quest with friends before choosing a#final path for themselves)#<- Most spoiled rotten kid ever. courtesy of Nightmare and Error and all their extended family <3#oh last note. Ancha has me cracking up w/ ideas for Cross potentially meeting someone and I was beamed w/ an old ship request post I saw and#I think it'd be funny to include Lust in here somehow... (probably call him smth else as a nickname but y'know-)#like. He works in the city around the castle as some sort of... idk tailor? and he's been making things for Nightmare for years without#knowing because Ccino always was discreet about the orders and providing measurements + always tipped well so it was none of his business#but one day it's like. before a big announcement ceremony or smth and Ccino drags Cross in by the scruff because no one can get him to get#clothes that actually fit aside from armor (hc he steals the others clothes a lot and wears 1 shirt until it's threadbare)#so Ccino makes him go to Lust and Lust is able to get him fitted for sone new outfits because. well. Lust doesn't do much but he's very very#handsome and Cross is super easily flustered and shy around new people and he's awkward and aughhh.#and then he thinks about the interaction for the next month before deciding he's going to ask Ccino to go back there again.#and Lust likes dressing Cross up in new outfits (everyone thinks it's great Cross is loosening up and meeting new friends cuz Lust introduce#s him to people in town) and it takes forever for Cross to get over his worries and ask Lust out to a ride on his horse (romantic. of course#) and Lust agrees because he's charmed.#and the best part would be Cross *actually* manages to keep it a secret. like. no one finds out until one morning Killer bursts into Cross'#room to wake him for surprise training and it's Cross. the weird Dog. and- holy shit did Cross have someone over???#Cross pulls the cool ones frfr 🙏#it's just a casual thing between them with little plot relevance or drama I think. just a chill lil relationship 🙏
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chiimeramanticore · 11 days ago
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waow
#before anything else i must warn this is going to be. unorganized thoughts mostly#in the last year or so ive tried to regain confidence that i am in fact plural and am not just faking it#or mistaking other symptoms for DID. shake off the denial y'know. as is so signature for this damn disorder#a diagnosis probably wouldnt even make me feel more sure lol. and also getting diagnosed for this specifically is like#the final boss of psychiatry to put it lightly lol#but when it quiets down in headspace ur always gonna feel like. maybe its over. whatever that was#it was just me and brandy for a while#but guess who had a godawful night and then a godawful morning and split a new alter ‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🔥#he hates it here! he might hate me for creating him! im not sure !#hell im not even rly sure if im juno or brandy rn lol. my mind is just so messy today#i woke up.. when did i wake up. like 9:30 i think and its 1pm now and i haven't gotten out of bed#i don't even remember all that time passing . i couldve sworn its only been like an hour. two at most#on the one hand this has all been kinda terrible and mentally exhausting but at the same time. hey cant say im faking now LMAO#the other hand is brandy. the other hand is absolutely brandy. i am tired lol#im only posting this here so i can just like. process it i guess#ive had a weird time finding an outlet to just spew random thoughts into since leaving twitter so. sorry#idk if anyone's expecting this of me but i always kinda feel like i need some level of professionalism on this account#keyword some. i know this is tumblr#but idk if these very open posts are. annoying? weird? uncomfortable? entertaining somehow?#i know I know theres no point in worrying abt how others percieve you . knowing that hasnt stopped me from doing it lol#i dont remember where i was going w this. maybe i didnt have a goal in the first place#idk if you read this far i dont rly need u to act like u didnt see it cuz like. wouldnt have posted it otherwise#but idk why i am posting. idk what i want out of anyone who has read all this#maybe just. interact w this post in some way idk. it's actually kinda grounding for me if you can believe it#bleghh im thinkin of cheating on my weed break just to treat myself after all this. weed + a long walk would fix me
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aparticularbandit · 3 months ago
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Okay, we talk shit about Agatha killing all those witches, but - with one exception (Alice), every single one of those witches also tried to kill her.
Every. Single. One.
Those witches would still have tried to get a coven together to seek a road that wasn't there, would still have not been able to summon a road that wasn't there, and likely still would have lashed out at the other witches around them for being unable to summon a road that wasn't there.
Agatha provoked them to attack her specifically, sure.
But they still attacked her.
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james-spooky · 4 months ago
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this is a test
#i’m bored i just wanna see how many words i can put in the tags like will it just keep going on forever or will they stop me like i know th#the tag limit is 30 ok so the iindividual tag limit is 140 characters that’s actually so rude i wanted to keep going forever and see how lo#g this could be but i guess we can do this 30 times ok what the flip should i talk about hm i was playing the guitar today but i rage quit#ause the song was hard and hurting my fingers! ermmmmm it was sunny ok this is boring let’s think of more exciting things to type hmmm acco#ding to all known laws of aviation- jk i’m not doing the bee movie script but can you imagine i think that would be funny hmmmmm words i lo#e podcasts so bad that’s a fact no one has ever know before my blog definitely isn’t all about audio dramas the people are definitely not a#ready aware of this jesus christ this is only the seventh one of these this is actually quite a lot of space i underestimated how much i ha#e to type btw there’s probably spelling mistakes in here somewhere or autocorrect has been annoying but i cba to retype anything so i don’t#care lolllllllllllll how do you feel about oscar malevolent i feel a normal amount actually (lie) yk what i really miss sam and colin alrea#y like i’m actually not okay i really hope we hear from sam again in s2 and also colin ngl i hope ur in the computers soz or not dead miss#im like a bastard my paranoid it king ok erm im running out of things to say um heartstopper s3 was crazy good i cried lmao i love gay peop#e so much it’s crazy i hope it gets renewed for s4 i need to reread the comics lowkey and the books they’re all so talented for being so yo#ng it scares me ngl !!!!!! the tmagp hiatus is getting to me slightly like february in reality is soon and not that far away for how podcas#ts go but seriously how am i supposed to live until then without knowing what happened. please colin be alive. ive only just realised i can#use fills stops. sorry that’s made everything a bit messy. i should’ve been doing this before. whoops. anyways. hi mutuals i love you all s#much i hope you enjoy my rambles and shitposts cause i enjoy yours very much! never think you’re being annoying i literally don’t care be a#annoying as you want posts as much as you want i am ur biggest fan <3 im getting a bit fatigued from typing like my mind is blank basically#now it’s just turned into a. stream of consciousness but i don’t really have any thoughts to put here idk if we’re halfway ermmmm omg it’s#lmost halloween how crazy is that time is flying by i kinda forgot it was october lmao. it’s wild how it’s basically almost christmas. like#what. that’s illegal. how is it wintertime again. what the flip. i miss summer already take me backkkkkkk. i hope my phone doesn’t crash or#smth cause i’ve not saved this as a draft and i cba to do any of this again. maybe i should save it. ok i will when i reach the next tag bc#ok it stopped me but i’ve saved it and holy jesus it’s a lot of text im just sat here giggling there’s really no point to any of this other#than me being bored sooooooooooooooooo (imagine if i just did the letter o for every character wouldn’t that be crazy) so wait there’s 140#haracters and 30 tags so what’s 30 x 140. someone hurry. i haven’t done maths lessons in two and a half years i’ve forgotten everything wai#let me get the calculator app ok im back it said 4100 characters so. i dont know how many words that roughly is but its. a decent amount. o#what the flip why am i wasting tag space with maths. i hate maths. my screen time has been actually soooooooooo bad recently like damn some#one put my phone in a block of ice please joshua gillespie style. my mind is running out of things to say. do i talk about myself. im james#im 18 which is weird cause wdym im an adult go away. ive run out of facts. i love podcasts and procedural dramas that stupid firefighter sh#w is my life unfortunately. i think chappell roan should be the queen of england instead of king charles. i dont like having a king cause#ho needs men in power not me. ok um this is the last tag equal rights for all. yolo. the time will pass anyways! thank u boredom ok bye gn:
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wereh0gz · 4 months ago
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Random thought but idk why ppl thought shadow shouldn't have gotten infected by the metal virus
Like. Yeah he's the ultimate lifeform. He's immortal and literally made to be immune to most if not all diseases. But
The metal virus. Isn't an actual disease
It's a bunch nanomachines that convert living organic material into more of itself
Shadow is made of living organic material
The only way he would have been immune (based solely on what canonical info there is on how the metal virus works) is if he was inorganic or dead, which he obviously isn't. And no just bc he was made in a lab doesn't mean he's not organic
Sure, they probably could've made him immune to it in some way, like say the high amounts of chaos energy in him burn it off on contact or something. But how to get rid of it is never fully explained. All we know is that something about sonic's speed burned it off for him, but it's not explained further as far as I can remember and the virus eventually mutated to become resistant to that anyway
Going super seemed to get rid of it completely for sonic tho, so the cure could've been chaos energy after all. Or it could've been like, chaos control warping time or the warp topaz warping reality to sonic and silver's will or something. Again, it's never fully explained, and who knows if shadow would've had the time to fight it off or cure himself anyway considering the circumstances of his infection
Anyway. Tldr shadow is living flesh and the virus infects all living flesh. Him getting infected makes sense based on what we understand of the virus. That's all
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danielnelsen · 6 months ago
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things aren’t going well with peach. while i think my dad’s very right to be concerned that she hasn’t eaten anything in nearly 60 hours (obviously i am too), im becoming increasingly concerned that she hasn’t slept at all in around 36 hours and prior to that she was under anaesthetic, which isn’t exactly restful, so it’s closer to 48 hrs
like dad took her back to the vet today and we’ve got injections for her painkillers now because she’s not eating, and also injections for fluids (because she doesn’t drink; she only gets water from her food), so the not eating is Bad but also kinda under management, but if she doesn’t sleep soon i’m extremely worried. dad was like ‘if she doesn’t eat by tomorrow afternoon we’ll take her back because the injections will run out’ but like. if she doesn’t sleep tonight we have GOT to take her back first thing in the morning so they can sedate her or something
#her pain doesn’t seem to be too bad now that she’s got pain relief so idk what’s stopping her from sleeping#she won’t even lie down unless i’m sitting next to her. she just sits there staring out the window#her pupils are also taking up her entire eyes and have been all day#that’ll be a side effect of the medication and maybe the lack of sleep? but it won’t be making her feel any better#she can probably barely see at this point#like imagine you’ve been awake for 2 days after surgery and you’re in a lot of pain and haven’t eaten since before surgery#and are also on strong painkillers. and you also have no idea what’s wrong with you or why everyone’s doing things that hurt you#bruh your brain would be COOKED. there’s no way she has any idea what’s going on rn but she’s clearly feeling terrible#personal#like i think she’ll be ok in the long-term but she’s gotta somehow get through all these immediate issues#last time something like this happened she stopped drinking and never started again#not eating or sleeping don’t have workarounds as simple as putting water in her food#it really doesn’t help that there’s so much other shit going on rn#i’m doing a whole bunch of stuff with my phone and computer that’s taking a lot of work#but also my sister’s going on a long overseas trip that she’s leaving for tomorrow#so the combo of dad and sister coming and going constantly and also like 6 random deliveries for tech stuff in the last 2 days—#has the dogs really wound up. so georgie’s been howling at absolutely everything#and it’s rainy so my clothes aren’t trying and they’re hanging on a rack hooked on the hallway door so the door can’t close#which puts one less door between my room and the dogs so they’re waking me up every time anything happens#and i sleep during the day so that’s ALL THE TIME. i’ve had like 8 hrs of sleep between the last two afternoons#my sister always has so much random life stuff she wants to talk about and was getting really annoyed that i wasn’t very receptive#like ‘im about to go away for 3 months’ sorry i know its a big thing but i can’t just reschedule peach’s medical emergency
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stevethehairington · 12 days ago
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#coworkers decided to do an impromptu happy hour today and must have made this decision while i was away from my desk at lunch.#bc i got back and they were just. all gone. and i only found out bc our boss swung by my desk before he left and told me.#and i know it wasnt intentional (at least i don't think it was) but idk man! just feels kinda shitty! yall could've left a note or something#but anyways. boss was like you should come! but i. did not go. partially bc im kind of a little sore about that actually?#but also they went to a beer place and i. dont drink beer. and like yeah yeah go for the people not the place but also. idk just.#it's cold and rainy and today has kind of sucked too so like. im not really in the mood#(which HONESTLY was probably the point of going out bc NO ONE is in the mood)#but. ugh.#now im going to spend the whole weekend trying to think of what im going to say when someone inevitably asks me why i wasn't there#and they all probably think im antisocial or whatever#esp bc like. im pretty quiet at work too. like. i feel awkward just jumping into conversations sometimes bc like.#im still the newbie on the team. like i just got moved to this one at the end of august#but these people have been working together for like years now.#so like they all know each other!!! theyre all super comfortable with each other!!!!#but im still new im still getting to know them all!!! and like idk. just feels awkward to insert myself into those conversations#even if im probably allowed to. so i just. dont.#and ugh. its a vicious cycle i know. 😔#but anyways.#wow that was so much oversharing how embarrassing#whatever. what is the internet for if not embarrassing amounts of oversharing 🤷‍♀️#N E WAYS.
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iridescentoracle · 1 year ago
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Hello! I am here to ask about your Dior headcanons re: the political cohesion of Doriath. 👀
Oh man, I didn't expect anyone to actually take me up on that!
(Okay so I got partway into writing this and then realized I should probably note up front that I tend to stick to the Silm (& LOTR/the Hobbit where applicable, but they... aren't, here) as the most authoritative version of canon, and I can get into why and where the nuances/exceptions are there (I do say tend to stick, it's not hard and fast!), but that's mostly a side note here: the point is simply that I don't really factor other drafts or the poetic Leithian into my take on Doriath, Thingol, Dior, etc, just what we're told in the actual Silm. I also read the Silm as an in-universe history text compiled by in-universe scholars, who, being people, are going to have their own biases and blind spots, even when they're doing their best to be accurate!)
So, this is a two-part thing: #1, there's the political cohesion of Doriath before & at the time of Thingol's death, which i talked about in the tags of the post that prompted this ask but is kind of necessary as context for the Dior part to make sense, and #2, there's the actual Dior headcanons. Both of these parts are very long because I've never really seen anyone else suggest any of this stuff and I want to explain where I'm coming from thoroughly enough that it actually makes sense to people who aren't me, but the TL;DRs:
TL;DR 1: I think Doriath was probably a hot mess politically after Thingol died, with tensions between various groups of Sindar and Laiquendi in the leadup to Thingol's death & Melian's departure, and more political tensions afterwards between those who wanted Beren & Lúthien to come be the new rulers, and those who thought they should stay gone, with someone still in Doriath taking over.
TL;DR 2: I think Dior became Eluchil, potentially at the request of some portion of the Iathrim, hoping to help prevent Doriath from devolving into civil war, and saw dealing with the Silmaril-Fëanorioni situation as a lower priority than stabilizing Doriath's internal political situation until it was too late.
1. The political cohesion (or rather, lack thereof) in Doriath prior to Thingol's death
So, okay, the thing about Doriath is that we don't actually have any real idea of like... how much the Iathrim liked being the Iathrim? We're never told about any intra-Iathrim conflict, but a) the Silm was probably compiled mostly by surviving Gondolindrim or their descendants, so they wouldn't know about anything liike that unless surviving Iathrim told them, and after the Second Kinslaying I don't imagine many Iathrim would've been eager to talk about how things had actually been tense/messy/etc when they could remember everything as having been perfect until it was ruined by the Fëanorionrim, and doubly so after the Third Kinslaying, so why would anything like that make it into the Silm?
and b) what we do know about Doriath is that it wasn't really Doriath as we know it until Morgoth came back to Middle-earth, and everything went to hell.
At the start of the first age, you suddenly get Doriath (the fenced land!) being the one protected area of a continent that used to be totally free and open. How many Sindar actually didn't particularly care for Thingol's style of leadership, or simply preferred to live nomadic lives, going basically wherever they pleased, until suddenly that wasn't safe anymore, and you were only guaranteed survival if you were close enough to Menegroth to be within the Girdle when it went up? ditto how many Laiquendi had no interest in swearing loyalty to Thingol right after their own king had just been killed, but again, made it to safety and stayed there over taking their chances on their own in the outside world? (None of this is meant as any insult to Thingol himself, by the way; he can have been a good king who did his best for his people and still rubbed some of his new subjects-by-necessity the wrong way, through no fault of his own or theirs.)
I think it's entirely possible that there were always potential political tensions under the surface in Doriath that just... never got written about, because they never boiled over into actual political conflict, and so it was never the sort of tension that had any bearing on the historical record.
Except then Beren & Lúthien happen to the world, and a few years later the Narn, and in the blink of an eye suddenly the only king Doriath has ever had is dead, and the only queen Doriath has ever had is gone and the Girdle with her—and more than that, the only rulers the Sindar had ever had for three thousand years before Doriath existed.
And where a few years earlier I think the Iathrim would probably have turned pretty universally to Lúthien, now she's abandoned them for her human husband—and while she's my favorite character in the entire legendarium hands-down and I don't blame her, I think that's another place there might have actually been some very mixed feelings among the Iathrim that nobody wanted to admit to later because how could anyone have been upset with Lúthien—and on top of her abandoning them for him, I think it's extremely probable most of Doriath did not actually get over their xenophobia about humans in general or Beren in specific when Thingol did (we know for sure at least some of Doriath didn't, cf. Saeros insulting Túrin's mother & sister to his face), but again, who's going to admit to having had a grudge against the holy couple of Middle-earth after the fact, you know?
Conversely, there could've been a sizeable faction of Sindar who had been totally loyal to Thingol until everything happened with Beren & Lúthien, but who found his actions towards them and/or Finrod to be where they drew the line, and while (unlike B&L themselves) that faction stayed in Doriath, there could've been a new, additional tension on that front.
Finally, for all we know there were multiple factions within the Laiquendi of Doriath, with political tensions stretching back to before their king died, rooted in who-even-knows!
2. Dior
All of that, of course, sets up a very, very messy political situation for Dior to walk into.
The Doriath stuff is arguably more speculation than actual headcanon, but here's where the unambiguous headcanons come in: I don't think "Dior Eluchil set himself to raise anew the glory of the kingdom of Doriath." Obviously that's how it got written down, but bluntly, I can't see Beren and Lúthien having a kid that stupid or, like, power-hungry and arrogant?
What I can see is a situation where the messenger that brought word of Thingol's death and Melian's departure asked Beren & Lúthien to come take over as the new king and queen, we promise we're not mad about you leaving and we won't be xenophobic to your husband anymore we swear it's fine now pretty please, Beren & Lúthien said no, and the messenger either asked Dior as a second choice, or said "okay fine none of that was actually true but Doriath is falling apart and we need a leader ASAP and there's about eight different contenders* (mostly kinsmen of Thingol or Laiquendi) being backed by various factions and it's going to devolve into civil war any minute so if you care at all—" and Dior said "would I do?"
(* Ask me about my Galadriel headcanon)
I don't think Dior necessarily wanted to be king of Doriath, and I don't think he saw the throne as his birthright or anything like that; I don't think anyone involved, from Thingol to Lúthien to Dior himself, ever considered the possibility of Thingol dying and needing an heir! I think it's possible he was asked, or at most that he offered, and either way, I think he saw becoming king as taking on a responsibility for the sake of others.
(Which, like, "well here's a potentially impossible task that I'm going to take up even though probably no one thinks I'm actually capable of it, but it's my duty to help others as best I can" sure does sound to me like an attitude one might develop when raised by Lúthien "I kicked Sauron's ass cast a sleep spell on Morgoth and persuaded the Valar to find a loophole in the fabric of reality" Tinuviel and Beren "I stayed by my father's side as an outlaw to give my mother time to lead the rest of our people away hopefully to safety knowing I would never see her or any of them again (and then spent several years being a giant thorn in Morgoth's side for good measure)" Barahirion, where "apparently my grandpa I may or may not have ever met died, guess that makes me the king of a place i may or may not have ever been" does... not.)
I also think he either took on the epithet Eluchil, or was given it by whichever factions of the Iathrim accepted him as king, when he actually became king. Obviously he's going to be referred to as Dior Eluchil even before that in retrospect because that's how he's thought of later, but that doesn't mean it was actually a name he always had, you know?
The final thing is, I think if Dior essentially walked into a political situation five seconds from devolving into civil war, it makes his inaction regarding the Silmaril prior to the Second Kinslaying make more sense: the Fëanorioni have been sitting around doing nothing about the Silmaril in Doriath / with Beren & Lúthien this whole time, the letter saying "hey that's our Silmaril give it back now" is probably just a formality, and Dior's only been ruling for a couple years, there's still plenty of people dubious about whether he should be king at all, he might well be subject to at least some of whatever xenophobia remains about humans in Doriath, and in general all the work he's done on stabilizing the kingdom will absolutely come undone again if he screws up; he's trying to keep a kingdom from falling apart, the Silmaril thing can wait.
Of course, it wasn't a formality, and it couldn't wait, but why would Dior have known that?
#shrikeseams#replies#doriath#the silmarillion#dior eluchil#lotr#lotr meta#i guess?#character: dior#jesus christ this is so much longer than i meant it to be i'm so sorry#also my lunch break was supposed to end twenty minutes ago WHOOPS please forgive any typos i have no time to fix#also there wasn't a good place to stick this in#but i also think everyone in doriath probably has PTSD about thingol's death#(many of them may also have had PTSD already esp the laiquendi or those of the sindar who had to return to menegroth in a hurry#when the first waves of orcs showed up#but anyone who didn't already almost definitely does by the time dior gets there#because holy shit our king is dead the girdle is gone none of us are safe now and he was murdered before the girdle even fell#so have we even been as safe as we thought all this time or were the last couple centuries a lie?)#but yeah those are my dior headcanons!! idk if that picture of doriath or dior in particular are to anyone's taste but mine#but if nothing else i like the idea of dior getting to be... an actual person? and someone i can see having been raised by beren & lúthien#and he doesn't really get to be either of those in the silm and i rarely see him in fanworks getting fleshed out like other characters do#and i think that's kind of a shame#you know?#also yes i am completely ignoring that dior's name theoretically means ''successor'' bc like. why would they name him that#that is from an early draft and there is no way to know if ''dior'' would even have stayed his name#if tolkien had gotten around to updating all the names in B&L/CoH etc into modern Sindarin#never mind if it would have meant anything remotely similar#this is mostly a first-draft post written in one sitting in the space of 45 minutes partially while late for work#i have Definitely left many points out and i am sorry if anyone has questions about things i probably have answers / can elaborate further?
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selfinflictedgunshotwound · 15 days ago
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my various mental issues make liking people so hard because i already put people on a pedestal to begin with if i genuinely like them so i am automatically laying myself at their feet like a dog but then i wrestle with the ego death of seeing that they're just a human being who is capable of being wrong and stupid and annoying me and it kind of makes me sick to my stomach not because i expect people to be perfect but because i know if i had like 5 minutes to sit down and talk to this person i would feel more secure in knowing where they stand on any given thing. but you aren't granted that when you just like some random guy who will never know you because you can't take the feeling of someone who could actually know you. or whatever.
#i like a jewish man who made one vaguely ignorant comment about what's going on Over There and has said nothing on the topic since#he's kind of known for being someone who... likes to look out for the 'little guy' but knowing jews who place too much stake in the concept#of israel and having a place they 'belong' and having fought with people who believe that there are various kinds of zionism and not just#the outright evil one where people assuming their religion gives them the birthright to displace and genocide an entire group of people#and obvious this topic hits way too close to home as a jewish person like i just don't understand how jewish people are okay with it#obviously not all of them are. and thank goodness. because you have to be an idiot to sign off on anything a violent group of white racists#tell you to believe. in MY opinion. but this whole thing has just really hurt me deeply and wounded my willingness to identify with#judaism and my jewishness. which sucks. but obviously it sucks way more for the people who have been consistently and violently slaughtered#it's definitely testing my resilience and nerves and i think to some degree it's part of why i haven't even bothered bringing him up becaus#i'm so sick of giving my fellow white jews the benefit of the doubt about their stance on israel. if you don't see it for what it is by now#you're STUPID!!!!!!!!! and i want to be like. well all he did was say smth back when hamas took hostages and whatever but at the same time#he's a jewish nepo baby with a famous mother so he was obviously raised with no shortage of wealth#and - in knowing that#i also know that ignorance runs rampant in rich families who don't bother to look into issues within their own community. and he's never#had to think about the violence that the people have endured due to a settler colony thinking they own the place. the only things i knew#about israel before last year were that they sucked ass and that their military is well-funded and obligatory. if you have eyes and you're#not in an internet echo chamber at THIS point? you know they don't just suck ass but that they are evil. i knew about the occupation and#constant violence all the way back as a teenager because of tumblr (which is kind of insane ngl) and when i found out i was jewish i had#literally no new feelings about israel whatsoever. the persecution complex some jews have about ppl's hatred for israel makes me insane bc#it's literally just a bunch of losers who moved from their ACTUAL birthplaces into a place they have no business being and acting like they#own it and belong there. i have no idea how people feel welcomed by a place like that simply bc you all have the same ethnicity/religion.#it almost feels like a cult and considering that it takes so much inspo from america i honestly wholeheartedly believe that bc it's exactly#how they operate. anyways. all this to say he's not a perfect guy by any means and he's probably at least a little fucking stupid and#brainrotted bc he's rich. idk what else to say bc i don't wanna show my hand or anything on this like i'm very aware this whole thing is#pointless. but alas... that's most of my life!
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