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the four horsemen of Queer Agony
#can you believe all four of these are canon and two of them have kissed. can you.#hannibal#supernatural#our flag means death#ofmd#nbc hannibal#good omens#good omens 2#spn#good omens season 2#good omens s2#good omens spoilers#anyway. complex queer tragedy era go brrrrr#i mean ik that castiel got sent to superhell but bear with me#destiel#ineffable husbands#hannigram#blackbonnet#im also so incredibly unwell about the 'i forgive you' hannigram and aziracrow parallel i truly am#four horsemen of queer agony
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heres a crappy venn (??) diagram explaining the dynamics in the tl4j time travel au bc it's easier than trying to write a full plot
#tl4j time travel au#slightly longer ver is cal and ezra have 1. accepted what's happened to them and 2. know tragedy has given them an amazing found family#which they wouldnt have if everything was 'fixed'#and ezra knows from the wbw that changing the past is a Bad idea (which alongside the found family thing cal accepts n agrees w)#but ahsoka cant take her own advice and insists fixing this is Different to the Kanan thing#bc she has not accepted it the same way and her life is soo much more depressing and seeing the live republic reminds her#if she fixed the timeline she'd have her whole family back (bc rn she just has luke) and thered be so much less horrible horrible loss#and luke is the force's specialest boy so he assumes itll all work out great#its basically 'attachments + compassion for those the empire killed' vs 'attachments + acceptance of the world that exists now'#like both 'sides' are going half good jedi ideology and half attachment ig (tho cal n ezra i think have a one-up on jedi-ness of their idea#misc tag#but even tho cal n ahsoka/ ezra n luke have opposed goals theyre the only ones who understand what the other is going thru#so u get fun dynamics as shown by the diagram
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To me there’s like a line between the Bad Kids who were always themselves extremely authentically and that fucked them up socially (Riz, Adaine, Gorgug) and the Bad Kids who spent a good portion of their lives playing a part and that fucked them up mentally (Fabian, Kristen, Fig)
#that’s why the latter three blended in so well to the popular kid landscape: they’re so used to playing a part#meanwhile riz adaine and gorgug are very unused to being popular and it’s a very big change for them#gorgug to an extent also has to deal with repressing his rage so he does get it a bit#however he doesn’t have to deal with his entire identity and personality for others like the other three#what fucks me up is that fabian and fig are still to some extent playing a part even if it’s changed over the years#a good part of Kristen’s arc is her being authentically herself and the consequences that brought#so she kinda gets that nice reprieve that I feel like the other two don’t get as much#and yeah the two of them have the bad kids and fig has ayda and they can drop the act around them#but they do still have to play a part#(and if you’ll allow me to be insane over fabian for a minute) the fact that outside of the party fabian doesn’t really have anyone he feels#comfortable being himself around is one of the tragedies of his character considering he’s still trying to be perfect for everyone else#even fig is learning to be her authentic self with people outside of her friends and gf and fabian just doesn’t get that#anyways. rant over. just will always be thinking about Them#autism (mads) speaks#fantasy high#the bad kids#fabian aramais seacaster#riz gukgak#adaine abernant#gorgug thistlespring#kristen applebees#fig faeth#d20 fantasy high#dimension 20 fantasy high
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I'm not going back to Gusu with you.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#lan wangji#wei wuxian#Those last two high effort comics where just a warm up for this masterpiece. My true magnum opus.#I was originally going to do this gag as a 'alternate version of comic 155'#Then I realized that they have the 'Come back to Gusu with me' conversation twice. So here we are!#I did consider having WWX say 'I'm not going back to gusu with you' in the comic for the better plot accuracy.#I'm invoking the rule of silly by having Wei Wuxian read between the lines of 'Come back to Gusu with me'.#Because it does feel like a confession! It is a confession of 'I care about your safety and I worry for what may happen.'#It is also poorly articulated. You can't really blame WWX for reading into it as 'LWJ is just another person trying to control me.'#The relationship between them is not good! It is two parties who genuinely want to be closer with each other but cannot communicate it.#You can't really have what makes these two work so well as a dynamic without the past history of:#“Back then I really wanted to be your friend.” They are a *missed connection*!#WWX reaches out and LWJ rejects him. And now when LWJ reaches out it is WWX who pushes them apart.#It is a tragedy about the consequences of being out of tandem and realizing what you want far too late.#The momentum of WWX's downfall is far to fast to reverse now. It's a 'When' not ''if' question.#Back to your normal style of PD-MDZS next update. Thank you for reading!
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(insp) // (mirror set)
#lokius#mobius#loki#mcuedit#lokiedit#marveledit#been working on a different dual lokius set because yes every scenario of theirs can be mirrored EXACTLY#and realized even months later the reverse of this one hadn't left my mind so have some more tragedy real quick as if they need it 🙃😅#possibly the greatest shot of the entire series tbh it's just such a charged moment??#i mean loki asked for more time and by freely giving it mobius pretty much set into motion the feelings realization crashing around them#the awareness of magnitude in what they've done for each other!!!#your very molecular being torn across time in search of the only unwavering trust and support you've ever known...#shirking everything you were created for to worship a new god not just on a personal alter but now before what was your entire world...#never being normal about them feels so good y'all :')))#owen wilson#tom hiddleston#marvel#owenwilsonedit#dianagifs
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im not immune to Salvis (platonic or romantic? up to you) bonus because yeah
#theres smth wrong with both of them#idk if theyre worse off in a relationship mentally than salash?#i feel like they have a better chance as long as travis gets like. professional help. not from sal that is Not his responsibility#i dont think ash Or sal would be okay in a relationship just because sal avoids his issues and ash is. not prepared to deal with them#not that its her fault. it just doesnt work#travis and sal are both fucked up so i mean like listen.#listen. they either 1. make eachother worse or 2. realise theyre both mentally ill and through their own effort in betterment are prepared-#to deal with eachother#if we're talking in theory theyre both sweet ships#theyre also both good platonic#if only (any sf character) could get anything but tragedy#sorry cringe in the tags </3#sally face#travis phelps#sal fisher
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The thing about TMA is that if I think about Sasha James too much I will cry and if I think about Michael Shelley too much I will cry and if I think about Agnes Montegue too much I will cry and if I think about Jonathan Sims too much I will cry and if I think about Naomi Herne too much I will cry and if I think about Gerry Keay too much I will cry and if I think about Tim Stoker too much I will cry and if I think about Jane Prentiss too much I will cry and if I think about Martin Blackwood too much I will cry and—
#tma is a horror podcast and i absolutely love it on those merits#but i think where it really excels is as a tragedy#SO many characters - major and minor - have these unique and insanely fascinating individual tragic arcs#i could sit and think about any one of them for hours#it’s just such good and sad and interesting writing#it’s what makes me so completely unable to get this podcast out of my head even years after it’s ended#tma#the magnus archives#jonathan sims#sasha james#tim stoker#martin blackwood#naomi herne#jane prentiss#gerard keay#michael shelley#agnes montague
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May I ask what you like about Jamilkal?
Oh my gods ok Imma try not to infodump but also stay clear while I'm rambling.
So, mostly I'm a "platonic soulmates KaliJami" believer. It's less about romance or lust or whatever else and more about them just... gravitating around each other in a way that simply cannot be described with the words we usually associate with love.
Especially since you gotta add the hatred/hurt aspect to it all. The power imbalance. The fucked up situation they're both in. The traumas they've both gone through.
They love each other. They hate each other. They need each other. They keep sabotaging each other. They can't imagine their lives away from the other. They drag each other down and themselves all the time. They care so much for each other. They keep hurting each other.
It's all about tragedy. There is no way for them to heal and get a better relationship but by being separated. But they could never willingly part ways from each other. They'd need to be forcefully pulled apart, and even then they'd probably fight tooth and nail to get back to the other. Even when they're apart they can't stop thinking about each other. The other is seared in their DNA at this point, it'd be like cutting a limb to force them away from each other.
You might think "yeah but Jamil tried to kill Kalim." While he was overblotting, yes. As did all the overblotters, whether or not they loved the people they were attempting to hurt or not. But Jamil, while he did try to ruin Kalim's reputation and have him leave the school, never intended on hurting him. He could have done so much worse, Kalim and his family have so much faith in him, and the only thing he did was trying to get Kalim fired. He would have ended back under the Asim service as soon as school was done. He never meant to get rid of him forever, just push him away long enough so he could find himself.
Which he couldn't. Because fate simply refuses to leave them separated. Because Kalim or his father insisted they stayed together. And now you might think that Kalim is the one pushing this relationship, but have you heard just how much Jamil refers to Kalim? Kalim can live without Jamil, but damn is Jamil obsessed with Kalim. To an unhealthy extent.
Yes it's because of his upbringing. Yes it's because he fears for his and his family's sake. Yes it's because he's an overbearing mom friend. Doesn't change the fact that he has Kalim under his skin 24/7.
The point isn't that it's healthy. They could never be healthy together, no matter how much they try to change their dynamic. Jamil stifles Kalim's growth by being overbearing. Kalim stifles Jamil's growth by constantly relying on him. They feed off each other. Their flaws feed off each other. They just keep making each other worse.
And that's just such an interesting dynamic to explore. They're made for each other but they can't be together. Their story can only end well if they separate. It's as tragic as you could make.
So yeah. That's why I love KaliJami. They're a tragedy. They gonna burn together and they're gonna do it clinging to each other.
And boy, if that ain't love.
#“they hate each other” yeah yeah I know Kalim could never hate Jamil I was just trying to make my point clearer without going on tangeants#I think it's pretty obvious here that my relationship with love is a bit different from other's#I'm aroace - my definition of love encompass so many different kinds of love that have no actual words#queerplatonic doesn’t fit family love doesn’t fit romance doesn't fit devotion doesn’t fit obsession doesn't fit#they're SOMETHING that doesn't have a word but that I can feel viscerally and that I must dissect#and once more repeating it but I love a good tragedy#good tragedy being “the solution is that easy but the characters would never do it because THEY are like that”#sigh#i love them so much#i need them in an observation bay#kalim al asim#jamil viper#kalijami#jamikali#twst#twisted wonderland#analysis#ask me anything
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a lot of people call the inciting incident of berserk's golden age arc (or the eclipse, more specifically) a classic case of miscommunication between guts and griffith, which is true, but what i like about it is that i seriously cannot imagine a scenario in which they do communicate openly with one another. i can kind of see guts opening up under certain circumstances, but griffith? impossible. the only reaction i see him having to guts confiding in him about what he heard him say to the princess on that night and how that sparked his desire to find his own dream and be a person worthy of standing by griffith's side, someone who can become his friend and equal, isn't 'guts, i already think of you as a friend and equal. i have admired you from the first time we met, so much so that i cannot envision a future in which you're no longer at my side. you have nothing to prove to me :)', it's 'ah, you shouldn't worry about those things, guts. you'll always be at my side, because you are mine. i won you, so you belong to me, forever :)' which could, somehow, make things even worse. maybe.
#berserk#which is genuinely so good! i love how they're such well realized characters to the point where almost any other outcome feels ooc#now THAT is true tragedy. what makes them compelling is also what dooms them
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so much of the wigmaker's job continues to stay with me but especially this bit.
like. do you think illario hearing lucanis brush off the possibility of his death again and again contributed to illario giving lucanis to zara.
because yes, of course there's jealousy. of course there is. lucanis is primed to get everything illario wants and nothing illario does seems to change that in the slightest. he can never be good enough, not when there's lucanis to measure up to.
but. not only does lucanis not actually want what's coming his way (he does not at all want to be first talon but they both know caterina DOES want this and lucanis could never tell her no), he's also throwing himself into these jobs with such disregard for his personal safety that there's a sense of inevitability that surrounds the idea of his death.
this conversation feels like... it may not have been discussed like this so clearly before, but they've at least poked around the edges in the past. thought about it. and this moment might have been a turning point, in a way -- illario coming to terms with the fact that lucanis really just will. not. stop. for ANYTHING. his cousin WILL get himself killed doing this and lucanis won’t have any regrets. he’ll leave illario to go this alone. (no one to follow after anymore.)
i wonder if he started to think -- if lucanis is going to die anyway, maybe it’d be better to have that happen sooner, rather than later.
lucanis wouldn’t be happy as first talon (+ honestly, maybe this part is a stretch, but illario seems to see that what lucanis is NOW isn’t so much ‘happy’ as it is ‘obedient and content to accept the scraps that gives him’), and he’s GOING to get himself killed doing this, anyway…
so yeah, he could wait it out. wait for lucanis to do something foolish enough that he can't just walk away from it. maybe he’ll even last long enough to be made first talon (if caterina can bear to loosen her grip from the title) and be miserable for a while. years even, maybe! before lucanis, again, does something he can’t walk away from.
or.
illario could cut through all the pointless waiting and get right to the point. go straight to where this was always going to end up. and if illario is in charge of this, maybe he can benefit from it, and salvage one good thing from this whole mess, instead of being caught up in it later down the line.
(which then might tread into the territory of anticipated grief, too – lucanis' loss will be agony, but, if illario controls when and how it happens, he can control his grief. …except he hadn’t accepted the inevitability of lucanis’ death quite as well as he’d thought and when he gets sloshed at the wake, real grief seeps through the cracks)
just... something about this conversation. both of them viewing lucanis’ death as a foregone conclusion. lucanis accepting that easily, and illario struggling with that more -- and maybe having that shape his actions. not exactly a healthy expression of grief, but since when has anything this family done been healthy?
#veilguard spoilers#this family!!!!#they're so......... augh#screwed. they're screwed.#illario dellamorte#lucanis dellamorte#dragon age#when i got tevinter nights i KNEW i was probably going to become even more fixated on lucanis bc i nabbed it after starting the game#i did NOT anticipate liking illario so much or getting so entrenched in the tragedy of their dynamic#or their FAMILY dynamic. god where to START with that.#i could get even more corkboard conspiracy and start rambling about like#illario possibly feeling slighted at how easily lucanis shrugs off his offer to get to a point where he ISN'T constantly risking his life#and in some weird way viewing that as another selfish expression of lucanis'.#lucanis gets their grandmother's good regard. gets to have the position and the power. AND gets to leave them all like its nothing#like it wouldnt kill illario to watch lucanis fall like this#he's so easy to disregard yet again
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Congrats to Lucky Cyan for escaping the curse of the dead husband!
#theyre so good.... theyre so good i love them very much#i had a feeling luo was connected to the plane crash too#but the fact that that connection was not tragedy#that their connection was in fact FILLED with love from the start#im gonna start crying again i need fics about these two stat#tbhx#tbhx spoilers#to be hero x#dusk liveblogs#tbhxlb#fp.txt#i was gonna say dead wife but then i realized that sounds like she's the dead one
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Bonus 12: Beware the Grapes of Wrath.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#wen qing#wen ning#WWX's main weapon as the Yiling patriarch is considered to be 'Wen Ning' - which makes sense as far as the whole necromancer thing goes.#However...That *is* Wen Qing's beloved baby brother!#In her perspective WWX skipped town for a few days (or so) and took WN with him#only for them both to show up bloodied and in a state of disarray.#There's no way he told her he was going out to duel Jiang Cheng. For several reasons.#He doesn't want to involve her in his messes anymore than he already has.#It's less that she would try and stop him and more so that he honestly wouldn't even think to say something about it to her.#WQ and him aren't partners in this situation. He actually openly disregards her opinions several times.#Wei Wuxian's emotional distance from everyone around him is a big part of this arc.#Like all good tragedies...his biggest flaw is his hubris. He doesn't *need* anyone when he's so capable on his own.#He doesn't need to ask permission when obviously this is the only way forwards.#He has to do it all on his own! No one else needs to be involved!#And if you've been in the position of realizing you have a problem of toxic self-reliance - you know how harmful this mindset is.#It's why it's so satisfying to see WWX in his 'new' life start to let other's share his burdens.#I will die on the hill of 'love means carrying each other's weight. All a burden means is that I can give you support and you support me.'#YLLZ is less 'competent and sexy' and more 'depressed and can't see it'.#Another lovely nod to the main theme here is how he starts leaning more and more into the rumours about him.#Though we are also still confronted with how these rumours fail to actually live up to reality.#Rumour has it the Yiling Patriarch is undefeatable. What a shame if that rumour turned out to be untrue!
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so what do we think fiddleford saw when he looked into the gremloblin's eyes? dude was so traumatised that stanford "oblivious to my assistant's emotional turmoil" pines took notice. it's what motivated him to INVENT THE MEMORY GUN IN THE FIRST PLACE. I'm honestly surprised i haven't seen more speculation about this
#what do we think is fiddleford's worst nightmare#I'll throw my hat in the ring and say it should be close to what actually happens to him. for maximum angst#maybe because he's away on work so often he's terrified of never seeing his family again. or his son forgetting who he is#and his response to that fear starts the chain of events destroys his family and changes him beyond recognition#because i love a good self-fulfilling prophecy#anyway please. share your ideas#tragedy enjoyers when a character's best efforts to escape their fate only leads them towards it#damn i just missed fiddleford friday#gravity falls#journal three#fiddleford mcgucket#ford pines#stanford pines#journal 3#da gremloblin#my favorite character#fiddleford...saturday?#:(#oh ig I'll tag#ford²#fiddauthor#cuz there's. potential there
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Firefly Wedding is so…
It’s so
It’s them. It’s "It’s just a firefly, they’re meant to die soon. Why should I care about the sick, or the poor?"

It’s "I was purposely trying to scare you and push you away to see how far you were willing to go with your act, how desperate you were to play with my feelings as if I was a fool, but it didn’t work."
It’s "I know you’re just using me but now I care. Please keep using me. I need you to need me."
It’s choosing to give her her freedom anyways. Because your love is no longer all about you, no longer selfish. Because this love isn’t just a shallow balm to soothe your complexes anymore.
It’s being betrayed, finally facing the lies and no longer pretending you both don’t know that this is a farce, but desperately wanting to keep it going anyways. It’s "I should hate you now. Why don’t I? Hey, tell me we’ll go through with the plan, tell me you’ll marry me after all. Otherwise, why am I still here? Why don’t I want to leave? You act like you don’t need me but I still need you."
Like that’s so revolutionary for a yandere story. The self-delusion is strong, denial that things have changed despite it being impossible to truly believe, BUT HE STAYS. It’s no longer selfish 😭😭
"I don’t care about you anymore, I won’t help you. Get yourself killed for all I care." <- Jumps to her rescue 3 milliseconds later when she almost falls down a ladder/roof. It happens twice. The ‘lying and trying to emotionally distance yourself from something to protect yourself and not get hurt’ defense mechanism is blatant and it’s failing really bad.
It’s "My sense of duty and goals to have accomplished something useful in my short life are making me do this, but I do want you to stay with me." The yandere stuff here gets turned on its head because what he says is empty where it matters and meaningful where it matters. It’s knowing that if Satoko asks him not to kill anyone he won’t, but knowing that he won’t give up on her no matter what, even if she’s unattainable, even if she’s sickly, even if she pushes him away like just before. It’s so thinly veiled for "I’m determined to see my goal through, but that’s not what I want. If you just so happen to take me away and I don’t try to run away hard enough then we can elope and be free. I want to have an excuse to leave with you. Please give up on marrying me. Please don’t. I want that, but I can’t."
It’s "If I didn’t burn brightly in my short firefly life, then what was the point?"
Except that burning brightly doesn’t have to mean making big achievements, or being useful to your family.
It can be living happily, living for the ones you love, fighting for them. It can be worth to risk it for things that actually matter to you.



It’s giving your heart to someone, figuratively and literally. To lend it to them even if it might get used or battered, for as long as it beats to use your body to protect them, even if you have to sacrifice yourself. A love that burns bright into a bonfire before they both turn to ashes. Unwise but wholehearted.



It’s despite even that, needing grandiose gestures to be able to trust that this is real. It’s needing external cues that prove it to feel safe in their love existing, other people to confirm that he’s not crazy, that this is happening and this is how they both feel. Their love has been fake, both being a warped love and being a lie, only being out of necessity or because the other was the only one willing to offer it to them, offering comfort, safety, support and care. And showing that they care is the most loving of all. It’s despite everything falling back into old habits that "Oh if she was miserably worried for me then that means she’s not indifferent to me! That’s good!" And then once again being taken aback by her, by her earnestness and by her will. Because oh, no, this goes deeper than that. She cares. It’s love.




It’s opening your heart up to love, and both being punished and rewarded for it.
But most of all it’s

And it being the most loving thing he’d ever heard
Firefly Wedding is so…



And yet it’s also



The complicated and hurtful nature of love and the joy and light it brings are two sides of the same coin, because that’s what inevitably happens when you care about something. But caring about a firefly isn’t a waste even however short lived it is, or how hard the loss will inevitably hit you. Isn’t their light just such a wonder to witness?
#hotaru no yomeiri#firefly wedding#firefly marriage#firefly wedding fandom how we feeling#Spoilers#he’s like Denji except. Worse#Lmk if i need to take out the pictures or smth#I genuinely don’t know if firefly wedding will end happily or in tragedy I AM SCARED??!#Iirc the very beginning is a letter that says how she died?? Anyways i am so fine and cool and collected#Ah yes my favorite genre dark romance that manages to become healthy somehow by the end of it <3#Can’t believe they invented love in 2023#It’s like seeing them slowly work through loving someone loving yourself and loving life live it’s so good#Gimme the sad af dark romance about what it means to love someone 😤
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Fear of being left behind, and wanting to be loved as much as you love others. Sometimes little reminders from a friend can help. Peep my tags
#thinking a lot about amy rose lately. I drew this maybe a week or so ago but couldnt parse how i wanted to talk about it#Was rambling to a few friends abt her journey to self love and dismantling comphet-isms and how#If I were to write her#they'd be interconnected#Her attachment over someone who's made it clear he doesnt feel the same way. ogh#Her begging to not be left behind and BEING left behind often is SO#I make a lot of angst of the sonic characters. sorry. I respond well to tragedy (btas enjoyer)#I find Shadow and Amy's friendship so comforting and interesting.#Amy is the reason Shadow remembered Maria's promise and went to help Knux and Sonic in sa2.#I'd even argue that Amy Rose is Shadow the Hedgehog's first friend that he'd say is his friend.#For Rouge and Omega he could pretend that they're just a team and work together. Nothing more.#The idea of them being good friends also gives me a lot of joy.#Amy takes him shopping! Takes him places he didnt know existed. He tries food he'd never had before#Amy gets to share her love of the world with someone she cares about. Someone who. deep down. is kindhearted and wants to do good. wl#wants to love the world as much as her#And I adore that so much!!#Shadow the Hedgehog#Amy Rose#sth#sketches
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What are asgore and spades favorite colors
#deltarune#asks#drawings#asgore#spade#king of spades#spade king#asgore dreemurr#spadesgore#technically#king spade#no one asked but i want to elaborate#asgore describes colours in pairs not just because it might be the only colour theory he knows#but because thats also how he generally just sees. people and their traits#as if everything needs something to compliment#hence why he feels so out of place and useless to himself when hes not married/in a relationship#the way he describes yellow and purple are a good way to describe him and toriel in undertale#royal colours that are tied to hope but they only shine when theyre constracted against the grim tragedy that shaped them#with blue and orange it kind of describes sans and papyrus especially with how their comedic timing works#like when youre alone with sans in mtt resort the tone is a LOT more somber - colder#but when papyrus is by himself hes all jumpy and shit and he hardly seems as down to earth as he does with sans around#and red and green imo are the most important in analysing asgore specifically bc his weapon is red#but his shirt colour in post pacifist and deltarune is pink - literally a softer version of the cruelty we KNOW hes capable of#he describes it as just sort of -fitting- with the greenery he surrounds himself with and i think that mostly has to do with what he WANTS#all the plants and the greenery are ALIVE but almost toxic. meanwhile someone else most prominantly associated with red is rudy#the guys whole gimmick is having a bright red nose#its like asgore surrounds himself with the colour that would compliment the person he wants#or literally wearing their colours a la him and toriel having the same shade of blue on in undertale#and spade? hes just emo. he likes black because its a lack of colour - a lack of light#the reason he works as a good parallel to asgore in this sense is because he breaks asgores dychotamy and forces his own
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