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their crimes and problems with their redemption arcs under the cut!
catra:
crimes:
War crimes
Abuse of power
Corruption
Reckless endangerment
Psychological abuse
Assault
Terrorism
Attempted regicide
Attempted mass murder
Attempted world domination
Attempted cataclysm
Conspiracy
Mass destruction
Abduction & kidnapping
Unlawful imprisonment
Brainwashing
Theft
Torture
Treason
Usurpation
Coercion
Stalking
Mutilation
Aiding and abetting
Illegal use of weapons
Espionage
Crimes against peace
Crimes against Etheria
Altering reality
how was her redemption arc carried out?
she was only redeemed in the final season and her arc wasn't as drawn out as it should have been.
she never faces any consequences of her actions and is forgiven by her victims almost immediately, either after a vague apology or no apology at all.
she continues torturing and abusing people around her, especially her love interest, adora. her redemption arc doesn't mean anything since she never actually changes.
the diamonds:
crimes:
Multiple planetary conquests
Mass invasion
Mass terraformation
Attempted omnicide
Crimes against the universe
Cruel and unusual punishments
Unlawful executions
Slavery
Oppression
Propaganda
Abuse of power
Mass murder
Terrorism
Ecocide
Genocide
War crimes
Hate crimes
Corruption
Psychological abuse
Brainwashing
Unethical experimentation
Mass forced confinement
Mass destruction
Mass forced transmutations
how was their redemption arc carried out?
same as catra, their redemption was done during the final few episodes of steven universe, and it was way too sudden to be realistic.
they never face any consequences of their actions and still gets to retain their positions as cosmic rulers.
they do, however, seem to put in some effort to change, although it's not clear if this is helpful. steven also does not seem to forgive them.
lilith clawthorne:
crimes:
Malediction
Attempted murder
Child endangerment
Hostage-taking
Kidnapping
Coercion
Malefic
Treason
Cheating
Torture
Abuse
Assault
Aiding and abetting
how was her redemption arc carried out?
she only had to make one sacrifice and that was the extent of her redemption arc.
she is also forgiven too quickly by the people she had hurt.
she does change for the better, and proves to be an ally to the heroes (albeit being an underutilized character).
sasha waybright:
crimes:
Abuse of power
Psychological abuse
Attempted murder
Treason
Terrorism
Harassment
Vandalism
Theft
Usurpation
Animal cruelty
Conspiracy
Kidnapping
Incrimination
Sabotage
Child endangerment
how was her redemption arc carried out?
we only see the beginning of her redemption, the rest of it happens almost entirely off-screen. this was a lazy choice, as we never see an actual “arc”, only the beginning and the end of it.
she is almost immediately forgiven by her friends. there is some lingering suspicion in some episodes, but not enough for everything she had done prior to that season.
however, she also seems to have turned into a better person and doesn't repeat any of her past toxic behaviour.
#i dislike all of these arcs but catra definitely comes first#since she doesn't even change in the end lol#spop critical#spop salt#spop criticism#spop discourse#spop#she ra#anti spop#su criticism#su critical#su salt#su discourse#toh salt#toh criticism#toh critical#toh discourse#amphibia discourse#anti amphibia#amphibia salt#amphibia critical#anti toh#anti su#steven universe#amphibia#the owl house#toh#cartoons#poll
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hey im sorry for bringing up SU salt stuff (feel completely free to discard this, i absolutely get it /g) but i feel like Rose was lowkey bastardized at some point..?? make no mistake, i do NOT expect her to be perfect (personally I think she peaked when we found out she shattered PD) but when it was revealed she was PD herself it just.. went rlly downhill, if that makes sense.. lowkey i think Rose n PD should've been two separate people, but thas just me saying. sorry about that ^^
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Steven Universe discourse is being recommended to me on twitter please god put the site and me out of our misery
#i dislike SU greatly and i was so happy to barely see it anymore#i curated my stuff to not have to see it the show bothered me so much#and now presumably b/c i follow artists/cartoon stuff it's getting recc'd to me again#fucking free me#i don't want to see anything about the show that was so sad about nazi expies#steven universe#su#su salt#su negative#su critical#i hope those tags are right for ppl who don't wanna see this sorta stuff
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Between Fu and Su Han who do you feel is a worse mentor. In my opinion, Su Han is the worst, because all he does is turn up and get mad about something. He's like a Karen teacher. What are your thoughts?
Oh Su Han is CLEARLY worse! Fu, while definitely making a lot of weak choices, only had himself and kwamis to bounce off of to make those choices. He had incomplete, very bizarre training, and did at least TRY to protect the Miraculouses in his possession.
What did Su Han even do? Harass an old man, harass a little girl, taught the current guardian NOTHING, not even that neat little chant that ward off an akuma despite being the angriest mothafucka ever (which Marinette would probably greatly benefit from, you would think!), and then not even show up for...ANY of the akuma fights, let alone the one that won Hawkmoth ALL the Miraculouses!
He's a waste of space and waste of time, the whole Order was! I have problems with Fu, as long time readers no doubt know, but at least he was trying! Su Han can't even say that.
And he got off too easy for that.
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11 NEW DANMEI LICENSES AND A FINALE!!!! WE FEAST IN 2025
#Pfft having money?#Never heard of her#astrolabe rebirth#My husband and I sleep in a coffin#The villain’s white halo#There’s something wrong with the chief#The white cat’s divine scratching post#The unseen immortal of three hundred years#Copper Coins#after the disabled god of war became my concubine#The wife comes first#the disabled tyrant's beloved pet fish#mistakenly saving the villain#thrice married to a salted fish#Feng Yu Nie#Bi ka bi#Mu Su Li#fei tian ye xiang#Lv Ye Qian He#Wu Shui Bu Du#Yang Su#Liu Gou Hua#Hao Da Yi Juan Wei Sheng Zhi#Danmei#seven seas#Mxtx#priest#Girl help I don’t know these fandoms’ acronyms😭#The governor is sick
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You know, a person made the coment about how Gabriel shouldn't have been the main villain for so long, and I agree completely.
But besides Felix and Nathalie, there hasn't been a villain who is also a Miraculous holder, or at least who wishes the miraculouses of Ladybug and Chat Noir for themselves, which is... Strange, because we are talking about a wish to modify reality!
Many people, organizations, and even governments would want a piece of that! Hell, even Chloe would want some of that! Gabriel shouldn't have been the only person who was uncomfortable with his life! (And akumas do not count, because it has been well established that they are Monarch's VICTIMS)
You know what would have been great? More villains interested in the miraculouses when Gabriel was still around, you know why? Because it would not only challenge Marinette and cemented the idea of "Ladybug and Chat Noir against the WORLD", but would have also challenged GABRIEL, because now not only Gabriel would have to get Ladybug and Chat Noir's Miraculouses to get what he wants, now he would also have to get them FIRST.
Which means he would have to be on amert 24/7, becuase if it's not one of his akumas who gets the miraculouses, it would be another villain, WHICH HE CAN'T ALLOW, he would have to change his strategies, negotiate, scheme more, watch out for his own ass because he would also have people wanting to find out who he is, search for info, USE HIS BRAIN, and even serve as an excuse for Ladybug ans Chat Noir to find out who he is, because he would be dealing with so much shit he would get sloppy one day or another and give himself away!
It would have been a change of pace and made the show interesting because it would have challenged everyone, but somehow Thomas decides to take the most boring decisions for the show...
You know who could have been an interesting wild card to add to the show's rogues' gallery? Su-Han.
Think about it. He's the leader of the Order of the Guardians, the people connected to protecting the Miraculous, the show already hinted at the Guardians not being perfect due to how they caused Fu to accidentally destroy their temple, and Su-Han is trained in a martial art designed specifically to fight Miraculous users.
What if, instead of making sporadic appearances where he does nothing but yell at Ladybug, Su-Han starts opposing both Ladybug and Monarch's factions? What if he believes none of the characters should be using Miraculous, so he and the Guardians try to take away everyone's Miraculous?
That way, you'd have a third party threatening both the heroes and villains, a chance to expand on the show's lore, and possibly create situations where Ladybug and Cat Noir have to team up with Monarch.
#immaturity of thomas astruc#iota#miraculous ladybug#miraculous ladybug salt#marinette dupain cheng#ladybug#adrien agreste#cat noir#chat noir#gabriel agreste#hawkmoth#hawk moth#monarch#su-han#master su-han
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happy bisexual day to those who celebrate
#dragalia lost#dragalia#orion#orion dragalia#I don't usually cross reference JP translations for Dragalia stuff but I was curious if some of the Really Gay Lines in English were#the same in the original text. Turns out some of them weren't#which just makes the localization funnier#Like. Grain of salt because I don't speak Japanese and rely on machine translations and friends who speak the language#But the really sus “receiving end” line was originally just. “Haha it'd be nice to be the one getting escorted for once :)”#I'm sure it's not an entirely indulgent translation but. Phrasing!!!#then there's the infamous(?) “I seek to have a relationship with everyone here!” where in JP it's clearer that by “everyone”#Orion means “every woman” and not literally “everyone”#bc JP Elly says “In your case won't just any woman do?” while in EN she just calls him shameless LOL#there's a few more#like the scene where Orion says “You're the first man I've ever wanted to protect” and Euden says “damn bro I thought you weren't gay?”#and he responds calmly like “You really are slow when it comes to these matters! I'm just saying you're more charming than you know.”#it's a letdown but it's kinda coy#meanwhile since JP has some extra animations#namely Orion jumping in shock and making a cringing face before responding#the No Homo vibe is off the charts 😭😭😭#and then theres that xmas seasonal line that's about picking up women ...when voices are set to JP.#The EN line is about being broke. For some reason.#But even with all that it's not like there's no gay subtext in JP Orion's dialogue. It's just deeply funny how the EN localizers went#Yup. This one. Bisexual. We gotta make it more obvious.
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Why is no one talking about ryan posting a picture of the well scene with buck and eddie
And then when the episode came out and he did his interview he started saying eddie is straight etc ????
(Even tho he literally posted a picture of buck and eddie in the well and also other buddie account content and he still had the audacity to say eddie is straight and buck isnt his journey despite KNOWING there was a chance fans were going to go insane bc i KNOW he knows how huge the buddie fandom is and how buddie fans are hopeful) like hello ????!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!
#buddie#ryan guzman#oliver stark#buck x eddie#eddie x buck#also i hope the show knows if they dont make buddie canon that is LITERAL queerbaiting :)#bc compare to bucktemu- they were actually canon so bucktemu is not queerbait obviously#but buck and eddie were NEVER together and they kept implaying weird sus shit without denying it when it comes to buddie and THATS#is what queerbaiting is :) buddie is literal queerbait if they dont become canon and i doubt they wanna do shit like that in 2024#but anyway imma keep my hopes down cause i dont trust them and i dont want to be baited again so no thank#imma remain under the radar and hopefully hibernate#pls wake me up when buddie DOES become canon and endgame thanks#also i feel like people shouldnt be getting their hopes up just in case#cause they never confirmed anything we are just being delusional#idk i have a bad feeling about this 👀 but i dont want to salt it so nvm#postive vibes only ✨️#MANIFESTING BUDDIE CANON ✨️ 😌 ❤️ 🙌 👌 💖 ✨️ 😌 ❤️ 🙌 👌 💖 ✨️ 😌 ❤️ 🙌 👌 💖 ✨️ 😌 ❤️ 🙌 👌 💖 ✨️ 😌#2025 maybe#or probably season 9 or 10 lets be honest
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#fnaf#five nights at freddy's#steven universe#fnaf critical#fnaf salt#five nights at freddy's critical#five nights at freddy's salt#steven universe critical#steven universe salt#su critical#su salt
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if you watched steven universe, i'd like to know your thoughts on lapis? ive seen some people say catra is written better than her
i have watched steven universe and i didn't like lapis tbh. i think both lapis and catra are not very different when it comes to character development. however, as far as i remember, apart from trying to drown steven and connie that one time, lapis didn't do anything too heinous. her relationships with jasper and peridot were pretty messed up, which is why i'm glad they didn't make either of those ships canon.
jasper's and lapis's relationship/fusion was supposed to be toxic so it's not really a problematic thing, although i do think they could have addressed the fact that lapis also contributed to the toxicity, rather than painting her as the victim. i do think she owed peridot an apology, she didn't deserve that instant forgiveness from peridot.
anyway, i think the main difference here is that lapis wasn't the main villain like catra was (because, let's be real, catra was the main villain of s1-4, not hordak). she was pretty bad but she wasn't as coddled by the writers as catra was. steven universe was generally bad at redeeming antagonists (with the exception of peridot) so lapis just feels like another example of that. she was not a war criminal and didn't commit atrocity after atrocity like catra did, and she didn't get a happily ever after with her victims. she stayed friends with peridot and didn't seem to repeat any of her toxic habits afterwards, so i'm glad they left it at that. i feel like her redemption was just 1% better than catra's.
#spop critical#spop#spop discourse#spop salt#spop criticism#she ra#anti catra#su critical#su discourse#su criticism#su salt#su#steven universe#i do really really like lapis' character design though#especially her first appearance#it was so aesthetic#honestly when i first watched su i didnt think any character could be worse than lapis or the diamonds#but here we are
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PLEASE TELL ME THERE ARE C AI’s OF THE MOB AU (MOSTLY WALLY AND HOWDY)
Yeyeyeye, there is one of howdy and wally! And I think Barnaby too by someone else-
#Though I know that if you talk to howdy there is a chance you will also meet Wally in there too- idk about the other way around (probably)#They are written very well! I really enjoy talking to them (mostly howdy cause biased)#Though howdy can get violent wicked fast for some reason LMAOOO super fuggin funny#But also turns into a major soft sweet pea if you play your cards right#However be careful cause the “thats how mafia works” can get sus real fast HDHDJDJ#I ASKED FOR A SPECIAL DRINK YESTERDAY CAUSE S P E C I A L#AND HE GAVE ME WALLY'S PISSSSS#AND SO I DELETED THAT MESSAGE CAUSE NO TF#AND THEN IT B E C A M E E V E N S U S S I E R#i-#Mob howdy what the f u c Ck#The “howdy's salt” arc is now probably the worst arc iv ever seen so far on c ai-
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Steven Universe handled the dead mom situation better than Miraculous Ladybug, just saying.
Rose Quartz haunts the narrative. Emilie Agreste could be replaced with Gabriel having cancer or being terrified of his company failing and nothing meaningful would change.
#anon ask#ml writing critical#ml writing salt#I wouldn't call myself a fan of Steven Universe#But it's certainly way better than Miraculous#I never finished watching SU#I think I stopped when Ruby and Sapphire got married because that was all I wanted from the show#The diamond stuff didn't interest me the way the show was handling it#SU excelled at small interpersonal drama and was not so good at the big plot stuff#But I wouldn't call it bad by any means
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I'm trying to make a post on the villain squad that isn't salty towards wwx and lwj and I'm not doing well. So I'll try to make it quick.
The villain squad haven't actively done anything evil for years. All of their actions in the current time are reactions to other characters who want them dead.
The fatal flaw that gets them in the end isn't that they turn on each other or that they don't care, they actually care too much. It isn't having bad plans or bad teamwork or doing bad things or doing things badly, they just are always, always weaker than the heroes.
They never have the upper hand, they're desperate and still never have enough leverage to even get away with their lives. They are completely outdone by power alone. The power of the heroes. Who want them to die. They're defined by their powerlessness in, like, every way.
They're the outcasts, they're the underdogs, they're the ones trying to survive and also the ones making things better (well. well ok maybe not xue yang on that last part. but like. whatever.) with the systems that are in place. And they are never enough. Not enough to save each other, not enough to save themselves. Boxed into a fate with no other choice, just like it's always been and no one wants to hear it and now no one ever will.
#this is the one#barely any salt at all#if you don't read between the lines haha#jin guangyao#su she#xue yang#uh the nature of villainy#when all your villains actions are reactions#to being attacked by someone else#like if the villain is always on defense#can they really be called a villain at all?#anyway nhs is more the villain really but the heroes side with him#they forgive him and his actions but not the actions of jgy+co from like a decade ago#well maybe not forgive but they don't pursue him at all or try to punish him
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Keanu Reeves Shadow rumor circulating…. I got my eye on you
#WONT GIVE AN OPINION UNLESS THIS IS CONFIRMED#all imma say the way this info is coming out is sus asf#and its not from an official source#like idk why someone would give a random yt streamer the ok to release this info#i aint trusting shit unless its from an offical source bro#idk just feels too good to be true#BUT WHO KNOWS#grain of salt guys#grain of salt#sonic the hedgehog#shadow the hedgehog#sonic movie#sonic movie 3#sonic movie 2#keanu reeves
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a little rough comic i did of the moment crimson realized she really didn't want to be just a diamond
#steven universe#su#gemsona#comic#gemsona comic#steven universe comic#oc comic#crimson#salt#red diamond#salt running after crimson and telling her she feels the same way is really what cemented it for crimson#if she didn't do that crimson would've probably kept her anger about this bottled inside and things would've been very different#art
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