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Miraculous's idea of "redemption" is complete bilge. The two worst offenders being: Nathalie only helped Ladybug when she was on her literal deathbed, and wouldn't have to face any legal repercussions for her actions as Gabriel's willing accomplice. Followed closely by Felix being allowed to join the hero team after erasing the population of Paris from existence just because Kagami said he was good now after he "fell in love with her". The morality in this show is so twisted it's not even funny.
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That's because the Miraculous writers don't know how redemption works. Every time they try to redeem a character, they just vindicate them by turning to the audience and going: "Never mind all that! Nothing they did should be held against them because we say so!"
Like, Nathalie is still Gabriel's accomplice by the time the man dies, she's still keeping his secrets instead of calling the police, despite apparently thinking they should both pay for what they've done, considering the first thing she did when she could get out of bed was try to murder him. But, because she approves of Marinette macking on Adrien, her crimes will be ignored and Marinette will order her to be Adrien's new parent. Nathalie can't suffer consequences, because she needs to help Marinette.
Similarly, FĂŠlix's "kill all humans" agenda didn't include Marinette, so just ignore what he wanted to do to everyone else. We can't even take the Peacock Miraculous away from him because he needs it to help Marinette!
Gabriel might have been an abusive monster who tried to keep Marinette and Adrien apart, but, in the end, he died and handed Marinette governance over what to do with Adrien, like an old-school dad giving his daughter as property to her new husband. And, in the new, perfect world he created, Marinette gets to mack on Adrien, so clearly he was a hero! Ignore the five seasons' worth of criminal and toxic behavior because he helped Marinette!
Never mind how Marinette has been excused for everything she's done so far, because she cried about it, and will keep being excused for everything she will do in the future because she won't mean to and will feel really bad about it. Even when they say she's in the wrong, she won't actually fix it. We're just expected to pretend Marinette totally made up for what she did wrong by crying about it the the hardest, because that clearly means she suffered for her misdeeds, so asking her to make anything up or improve her behavior would just be cruel.
Like, the fact that their main character would even need a redemption to make up for her growing list of wrongdoings just shows how the crew has no idea what redemption even is as a concept. There's only instantly forgiving any wrongdoing when doing so benefits Marinette.
Unless you're hurting Marinette, then you deserve to be isolated with your abuser.
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Different Anon from Abuser AU ask. But I need to vent somewhere.
I hate the fact that even if u excluded Adrien and Alya bashing u still could see fic where writer demonized them for something they didn't do/something they did do but blow out proportion by Marinette standom.
Like I found many fics that tagged Adrien/Alya redemption (I didn't see the tag at first, only that it doesn't have bashing tag and from summary it Lila exposed fic). Redemption from what exactly? For not letting her killing her social life because she low-key look albeist from outsiders perspective and advice her to take the high road? For not believing her accusations to new girl in town because Marinette have no proof and have history being nasty to love rival?
How those fics literally have Marinette beat them down to compliance, have a reason why your wrong speech, and give them no choice but to follow her every whim and practically reek of,
See, she's not racist or victim blaming abuse victim or anything. It doesn't matter if they were treated worse second to Lila only she gave them a chance! They should be grateful!
Anyway I excluded those tags too now and ml fanfiction got better.
Until season 5 final happened and now too many fanfiction focus about how Marinette felt bad gaslighting her boyfriend and how Adrien feeling being sidelined on those fic. Ugh.
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Thatâs what happens when certain attitudes get normalized. Like, long ago, while I still loved the show, the normalization of Alya and Adrien salt was something that got discussed. How people who werenât even writing saltfics or redemption fics would still include some kind of mention of Adrien, Alya and the classmates apologising for the common saltfic talking points even when the fic wasnât about that because thatâs how normalized the thought that theyâd done something wrong had become. People thought they had to address it, even as a throwaway line. While that doesnât make the fic itself salt, facing a sudden salt trope in a non-salt fic really took me out of it.
Iâm saying that, like, even with the typical saltfic tags excluded from searches, looking up Miraculous fanfics can be a game of Russian Roulette on whether or not an innocuous-looking fic will actually include salt or just salt reminders. And now, as you said, we have the canon abuse apologia to contend with. Because, like, how would the fic authors even tag that, when theyâre literally just writing the same stuff thatâs going on in canon?. Maybe, if weâre lucky, the fandom might mature enough in the future that weâll get a âcanon-typical abuse apologiaâ tag. I wouldnât put too much faith into that, though.
Miraculous fanfiction has a pretty big problem with this kind of thing, which is why fanfic recommendation lists are pretty popular in the fandom, at least from what Iâve seen. I suggest looking up âMiraculous fanfic recommendationsâ or âMiraculous fanfic recsâ, because those recommendations usually list out what the appeal of any given fic is, so you can screen out any âMarinette is so sad about gaslighting Adrien, letâs feel sorry for her for the next ten thousand wordsâ fics.
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Let's be real, what weight does being called a salter by most Marinette stans even hold anymore? I'm not trying to be a bitch, I'm serious. What does that even mean anymore?
Marinette stans are more often than not very transparent with their priority being defending their made up version of Marinette. So their arguments barely ever hold up when put to the test because they don't care for what actually happens in Canon.
So why should I be offended by being called a salter and awful person by people who switch the moral approach of their argument on a dime flip every time a new episode drops? One day prior they chew you out for saying that Marinette will act jealous and sabotaging again because she never learned shit, and next day with the new information they turn around bending over backwards to justify why Marinette still acting that way is actually totally realistic and no problem at all.
Excuse me? How am I supposed to take you serious after that?
Or the way Marinette stans before Kwamis Choice swore and yelled from their self claimed moral high horse that Ladynoir will totally get fixed in season 5 and that Cat Noir was only sidelined so much because now season 5 will have Marinette dedicated to making it up to him and returning the partnership to one of equals again as Ladynoir becomes canon as pay off. Only for that to NOT have happened at all, so suddenly Marinette stans pulled a 180° and suddenly go on bout how there was nothing to fix anyway, and that accountability shouldn't always require immediate communication and effort to fix the unfair treatment. It's fine if that only happens in season 8 or 9, that's "realistic" and its what makes Adrien's support so "great". Because he understands that redeeming oneself shouldn't need to include... accountability... though of course only when it MARINETTE. Everyone else and Adrien in particular taking all accountability is just him being mature and fair to her uniquely stressful and soul crushing circumstances that make it unbearable for her to do the same in return.
She cries about being awful once or twice so no need for her to apologise or acknowledge or fix what she did wrong if she isn't comfortable with it yet. Don't you see how awful and cruel you are for saying that redeeming yourself needs of you to redeem yourself now? Dont you see that Adrien understands that Ladybug can't give anything right now and that his love language is selflessly serving her and wants nothing in return because that's the right thing to do in his position? She still loves and respects him so much, he just understands that she shouldn't need to show it if she needs to heal first through Adrien taking care of her.
Do you even understand the beautiful DEPTHS of redemption? And how long it takes sometimes to do so for a broken complex individual like Marinette? Seriously, in my made up season 10 all of that will have played out in a way where non of that will ever have been a problem, just stfu you don't GET it like I do đ
This is an actual paraphrased conversation I had with a person who's opinion I once respected a lot and I wished my paraphrasing made it worse but honestly, that's exactly what they said. And I'm still taken aback that they said that. But they sure weren't the only Marinette stan I found saying things like that.
What the FUCK am I supposed to take from that besides the revelation that they just do not apply any kind of moral baseline to Marinette's character? What is there for me to respect?
Marinette stans say they are against bullying until Marinette does it or benefits from it. Then they openly romanticise and defend it with the only argument being "that wasn't bullying, Marinette wouldn't do that!" as if that changed what happened on screen. All it reveals is that Marinette stans' words don't mean anything, their moral standards are entirely dependent on who is doing it and benefiting from it. Thats not a moral standard, that's a biase you don't owe up to.
Marinette stans say they are against violence and abuse of power until Marinette does it or benefits from it. Then they will defend hypocrisy with whatever random excuse they come up with in that moment that more often than not is either "that doesn't count cuz I said so" or "it's fine that Marinette benefits from sexist double standards and a clear main character biase bc it is her show". Once again showing that they don't actually draw any kind of line moral wise for Marinette's actions and the writing, their opinion of said morality entirely depends on what works best for Marinette. And then they get angry when that gets called out.
I won't lie, I do think that some people in this collective therapy group here ARE to harsh sometime, but I can definitely respect that alot of them make it clear where they simply draw the morality line and they won't budge on their core beliefs the show is shitting on.
There is a massive difference between simply salting Marinette and angrily speaking up against something you think is genuinely morally wrong or harmful in a kid's show like this.
Alot of people I see around here say that they wished they could go back to liking the show, Marinette (or whatever character) the way they were once used to but simply can't because the show keeps on making whatever problems they had worse.
I don't necessarily always share the points of no return but I can fuck with the reasoning because it's a consistent angle they always stand by that goes beyond the complaint that their fav is simply not getting the special treatment or has hurt feelings. I can trust most Adrien stans I see who dislike or salt on Marinette to form a proper argument and a whole pov that stays consistent when you bring up other parts of the show.
I can't say that I've had the same experience with Marinette stans and for me it's obvious why. Marinette stans were never forced by the show to take a step back and lay down their core principles they won't budge on because Marinette always gets put first and that's what they care about the most.
They can say however they like that they don't support bullying, ableism and abuse, they are absolutely doing so with full chest voice for their Marinette biase, they are just not willing to reflect on that bc that would reveal to them that their made up Marinette isn't real.
They have no coherent moral baseline in their arguments, they're proudly hypocritical, and then get angry when you call them out for going back and forth on their moral "standards" in a discussion about moral principles.
What is there to respect anymore? Being called a salter by them has long started feeling like a compliment because for me it became synonymous with "isn't changing their option on a fucking whim the second a new episode dropped". And if that makes me a salter, then so be it. I'm not throwing my moral principles out of the window for a cuddled protagonist who's became the poster girl for harmful white feminism on kids tv.
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The irony, when I went to my inbox to read this message I saw that a Marinette stan had also sent me an ableist insult. Some Marinette stans have no convictions or moral standards even for their own behavior, and the extreme individuals in the Marinette fandom never fail to prove the criticisms of them correct in a single harassing message. Like, of course theyâre gonna excuse Marinette bullying people, they themselves would most likely do the same for petty reasons. I can be petty too, but my pettiness takes the form of me feeling immense moral superiority whenever I delete one of these little hate messages. Like, I might be a jerk about a fictional character, but at least Iâm not a pathetic anonymous troll in someoneâs inbox.
Marinette stans lie when they say they don't support bullying, because they excuse it when Marinette does it as well as when they themselves do it. Like, Iâm not saying theyâre all like this, I get these messages so rarely that thereâs no way the entire Marinette fandom is full of assholes. Still, this isnât the first time I got an anonymous message from some random hater right after I posted something spicy about Marinette and it isnât the first time such a message included at least one example of ableism. It's just a fact that a lot of Marinette stans are hateful liars who spout ableism as soon as they can do it anonymously, so, like, why should we take anything they have to say seriously anyway? Every time a Marinette stan says: âI don't support bullying or harassmentâ thereâs a high chance they actually mean: âuntil someone says something spicy about the flawless queen Marinette, then Iâll use bullying and harassment without hesitationâ. We really shouldnât care one bit what these people have to say, because theyâll say whatever suits their agenda of the day.
When I say I donât support bullying or harassment, I mean it and I live by it. I donât do it, because I donât think anything can be solved by sending people hate mail, nor would I get any satisfaction from it. I donât even want to encourage anyone else to do so. Thatâs part of the reason I invite people to send their gripes to me; this blog is already a Miraculous-negative space, so here people can put their grievances into words without anyone whoâs just minding their business getting harassing messages, even when people send me stuff clearly inspired by a specific person or group. Like, Marinette stans can make a fuss about how weâre terrible people for discussing our gripes amongst ourselves, but we arenât the ones harassing other people here.
Although, since Iâm being honest here, I have to say I do agree on the harshness. I don't always agree with everything the anons who message me say 100%, but I try to focus on the parts I do agree with or have something to add to. Iâll even admit I sometimes look over a response draft and wonder if Iâm being too harsh, but often Iâm just not motivated to watch my tone. I know from past experiences that Marinette stans donât care how youâre wording your criticisms, just the act of criticising Marinette makes you the bad guy.
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Sometimes I see takes that are like "Marinette cares more about Adrien than his father ever did!" and yeah I can get behind that but when they start bringing up Adrien's amok I have to stop listening because any argument about giving him autonomy or whatever by giving him his amok is going to go in one ear and out the other. The senti shit was already nonsense but you can't convince me she cares about his autonomy in that way when she (or anyone else who knows about it for that matter) won't even tell him he's not human.
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Actually, Marinette might say more words of affirmation to Adrien than Gabriel did, but she isnât doing that much more to take care of him. Because, yeah, for all Gabriel also didn't tell Adrien about him not being human, he at least intended to protect him from the dangers being a Sentimonster creates. Gabriel kept Adrienâs Amoks under the tightest of watches, one was on his hand, and he barely ever leaves the house, the other is on his wifeâs hand, who literally canât leave the house.
Marinetteâs solution of giving Adrien the rings but giving him no information needed to protect them actually puts Adrien in more danger than Gabrielâs. Because Marinette made this decision, it should now be her responsibility to keep Adrienâs Amoks safe because he canât do it himself, since he doesnât know he should. But the Amoks are on Adrienâs hand and Adrien is constantly going out and about, meeting people, whoâs to say none of the people he meets wouldnât palm those rings for any reason without even needing to know theyâre magic. According to some statistics, designer clothes and accessories are the second most likely item to get stolen from individual people, right after wallets. Marinette canât keep those rings safe unless she intends to escalate her stalking of Adrien to cover every moment of the day wherever he goes.
Itâs been said before by others too that this is the most dangerous way to go about what to do with Adrienâs Amoks and who should be in the know. She respects Adrienâs autonomy enough to give him governance over his free will, but she doesnât respect him enough as a person and equal to give him the full knowledge that thatâs what sheâs doing. She doesnât want to see how heâd react, because she knows the reaction would be bad, because the information is so horrifying.
It really brings to mind the moment at the beginning of âFĂŠlixâ, when Gabriel was about to tell Adrien heâs Hawkmoth, until Adrien said something that made him realize that Adrien had dealt with his grief and was moving on from his motherâs death, and would, in fact, be unlikely to support him in his mad scheme to bring her back. Gabriel, our self-centered abuser extraordinare, also just didn't want to deal with Adrien's reaction to something he just realized was going to be bad news instead of the good news he intended.
Marinette might respect Adrienâs autonomy more than Gabriel does, because Gabriel sees it as his parental right to control everything about Adrien, but Gabriel sees Adrien as more of an actual person than Marinette has shown and actually, takes responsibility for Adrien's safety as a Sentimonster. Gabriel saw Adrien as a potential ally, Marinette sees him as a literal damsel who will be her reward once she âsavesâ him, but she won't make sure he stays safe after she's done saving him, even thought she's made herself the only one who can.
Like, Iâm not saying Marinette is worse than Gabriel, but saying sheâs better based on the slimmest margin imaginable isnât accurate either.
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About the Evolution Anon, another thing that makes Marinette trusting Cat Noir alot weaker in hindsight is that one episode earlier she just messed up using the Rabbit Miraculous
No one can tell me her plan was good, it wasn't, but luckily she was influenced by Risk to soften the blow on that. Cause she didn't use the Rabbit well at all. She only saw it as a travel device, instead of treating time with the respect it needs.
She didn't need the dog, she just needed to watch through time to find out where the object is.
She kept thinking that SHE decides when the kid was akumatized and when the other people were affected, and not that she has to check that. If she actually used the Rabbit well, she would have paid attention to when the akumatization took place (at sun set) and that therefore her plan of getting Adrien as the only unaffected person isn't possible and the person beside her can't be Adrien.
It's insane that people argue that Marinette did nothing wrong as if she can't be expected to pay attention to TIME while using time travelling. Yes, that was absolutely her JOB to pay attention to. She rewinds time to when the akumatization took place but is faultless for not paying attention to WHEN she just rewind time? Is time a toy with no meaning for her defenders, or what?
She could have literally just defeated the akuma right then and there when the kid was akumatized, but didn't because getting Adrien back to Paris with her was more important than anything else. There should have been no problem, right? According to her, the kid was akumatized some mere hours ago at most and all it would have changed is that the city wouldn't be on fire and destroyed now. Her job is to save Paris and prevent suffering and chaos. She didn't even try to do that despite having been perfectly fine with fucking with time in Ephemeral.
Though, of course this would have taken away her "justified" reason for prioritising getting Adrien back and making him her new favorite partner. She "couldn't" think of using time travelling in a way that makes sense because doing so would have revealed that Flairmidable shouldn't be here.
I'm glad that Marinette at least wasn't in her right mind in Strike Back, but that doesn't change that her plan was awful and utilized time completely wrong because her real priority was not wanting Adrien to leave for some weeks or months.
The one thing season 5 did right was holding Marinette accountable for letting herself be fooled by Felix through her emotions.
She HAD plenty of chances to realize that Adrien couldn't be without a Risk mark and it was her JOB as guardian and temp holder of the Rabbit to not treat the Rabbit like the Horse of Time. Not to mention that Marinette turned one hell of a blind eye to 'Adrien' then siding with her and peer pressuring and bullying Cat Noir into silence in front of the whole team by forcing him to shake hands and be blamed AGAIN for having emotions Marinette refused to respect bc he didn't feel what she decided he should be feeling.
Marinette fell in love with Adrien because he's NOT a bully. Because he would be kind and fair enough to NOT do what Flairmidable did to Cat Noir to back up Ladybug's abuse of power and bullying a teammate into submission by making them out to be an irrational crybaby who needs to be put in place by her greatness.
You can't fucking tell me that Marinette cannot be asked to remember that she fell in love with Adrien for NOT being a bully. How devoid of morality and standards can a biases be that Marinette can't even be expected to do THAT much.
That's the one thing I truly like in season 5, that they appropriately blamed Marinette for loosing the Miraculous because of how much she prioritized getting to keep Adrien and blaming Cat Noir for HER shit treatment of him.
She loves Adrien for not being a bully, but the second she wanted him to back her up in bullying Cat Noir in front of the team into submission, she apparently can't be asked anymore to remember what she loves the love of her life for.
The disaster of the season 4 finale is entirely HER fault and I'm fucking happy that season 5 at least demanded of her to improve in that way. By the time of Emotion she finally got over her bully kink that started with her falling in love with Catwalker for shitting on Cat Noir, and immediately recognised Felix pretending to be Adrien when he insulted the rich kids as "monsters" for her sake. In the s4 finale, she would have gladly turned a blind eye to that as long as the bullying is done for her sake. But that's the ONE thing the story actually held her accountable for so she grew from it
And all I see is people groaning and yelling about how flawless Marinette was in the s4 finale. She wasn't, she did everything wrong, and the right consequences actually happened for once.
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Anon clarified that this ask was inspired by a Discord group conversation where the Marinette bias was very obvious and not the recent tumblr discourse around the âStrikebackâ episode. I actually haven't seen said discourse either, so what I write here should not be taken as my two cents either.
The Rabbit Miraculous has been used for keeping watch over the timestream since its introduction, so Marinette failing to utilize the Miraculous for its true purpose of finding out the inciting incident for something is extra stupid of her. This is supposed to be the greatest Ladybug ever who understands all the Miraculous better than anyone else and that's why she can find the perfect holders for each of them? Press X to doubt.
And, like, even when Marinette accepts responsibility for losing all the Miraculous, I can't help but notice how she instantly gets celebrated and made to feel good for failing. Because, once again, her realization that she did something wrong leads her into a spiralling state of mental crisis where she cries about how sheâs lost everything and messes everything up, and then instantly gets told by Cat Noir sheâs the greatest Ladybug ever while all of Paris chants her name in support. And then she lets Cat Noir use the Rabbit Miraculous once before going right back to keeping things from him and lying to him. What did she exactly accept accountability for? How did she change her behavior because of that? She decided that the problem was her being in love with Adrien, instead of anything she did, so she makes herself miserable for the first half of season five, accomplishing nothing but a manipulative attempt to make us feel sorry for her some more before getting everything she ever wanted and never actually having to change her behavior.
Marinette failing or doing the wrong thing is never really about her being in the wrong and needing to make up for it. Itâs always about how bad these mistakes make her feel. Her feeling bad is not a consequence, no matter how much her manipulative pity parties make her stans cry about how she's supposedly being punished when no one as much as says a word against her, instead showering her with unearned praise. Iâm just tired of being expected to always put her feelings first instead of the people she hurts, who put their hurt aside to cater to hers, when she gets warned beforehand how wrong things can go while she refuses to listen until things blow in her face again.
âShe wasnât in her right mind,â isnât the defense her stans think it is, because the power of Risk is to make you take risks, Marinette calling an Akuma a âlittle problemâ in comparison to getting Adrien back is not her becoming unable to see the risk, itâs just her normal attitude of her Love Quest being more important than the literal supervillain fights that go on in the show. She places her Adrien schemes over everything else anyone has going on all the time. Marinette having garbage priorities didnât appear because Risk hit her, Risk just made her more careless with her normally bad priorities.
I recognize that the writers still intended it to be an excuse, and thatâs why the stans take and run with it as one, because the writers love to put those in when Marinette does something completely messed up and in character to make her seem less responsible for her own actions. But, like, itâs just as bad an excuse as the other attempts. Oh, she tries to force Adrien into being the solution to the current problem and it fails (just like in âDesperadaâ)? She was under an Akumaâs influence! Oh, she gaslights Adrien about his dad? Sheâs really stressed out and the time traveler told her it was just as valid a choice as being honest! Oh, she [insert âSublimationâ spoilers]? Tomoe sabotaged them beforehand!
Frankly, Iâm still of the mind that Marinette didnât get enough consequences for the season four finale. Having a mental crisis is just Marinetteâs reaction to failing, itâs not consequences for her actions. Like, letâs think about this. What should the logical consequences be for losing almost all the Miraculous to the main villain in a single day? Whatâs a reasonable way for normal people to react when their hero fails them in such a way? Some loss of faith, perhaps? Itâs not like Miraculous would be the first superhero story where the public opinion gets turned against the hero and they have to find a way to turn things back around and prove themselves trustworthy again. That could have actually been a good story and a real way to shake up the status quo for season 5. Instead, the only time the heroes face any opposition itâs just ChloĂŠ again. The way I see it, Marinette actually got no real consequences, instead getting coddled and celebrated for losing to the villain.
But, yeah, Marinette stans have no reason to whine about Strikeback, because, like, Marinette wasn't punished in any way. If anything, she got rewarded for her massive failure.
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This weeks WIP preview is for the Swappin Hotel fic cover I'm working on, based on the official series poster.
#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel fanart#swappin hotel#charlie morningstar#hazbin hotel niffty#hazbin hotel alastor#animusart#preview tuesday
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Painting Over
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Billtober by @dailybill-cipher
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First lesson đâ¨
A while ago I watched Mysteries Inc. again and in the series there is a character named Marcy or "Hot Dog Water " jaja and I thought⌠duuude Gabby would definitely be her (since Gabby doesn't fit Daphne đ)
So I did this just to practice â¨
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I donât have much to say about this set of episodes, other than it was really nice to see someone other than the Plantars treating Anne nicely without ulterior motives. Stumpy and Anne actually made for a very fun duo for comedy, character moments and action.
Although a thought I had is that thereâs this feeling that Anne actually represents change to the town, with new ideas and such, which can be used to both help or hinder the town. We see this in how her two enterprising ideas were both good and bad and worked and failed somewhat equal amounts.
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There are things frog was not meant to know. And being a snake oil salesman is one of those things
We're moving from the original lesson of honesty to scamming people with stuff actually harmful to them
Anne is starting to realize she might have created a monster
How high was the rent to begin with for the raise to amount to this much? Just riot
Hey, you need to melt a lot of copper coins for a house-sized statue
Wait a minute, that's produce right there!
They're clay models made to be an advertisement. Some diners do that for the dishes
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Or, the townsfolk should just riot against the mayor
They should just flay him alive
Still can't believe overthrowing Mayor Lewis isn't a game path in Stardew Valley
Still can't believe you can't burn Mayor Lewis at the stake
He's turned into a used car salesman. Look at this flimflam frog
How the mighty have fallen
Well, he wasn't that mighty to begin with
He had convictions, okay!
Hop Pop is known to sell his convictions!
Yeah, that's what he's gonna be known for after this fiasco
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Amphibia: Plantar's Last Stand
"We need to sell snake oil!"
"I dunno, Anne, the snakes here are three hundred meters long, full of teeth, and their oil is located in a small sack in their stomachs"
"Wait, your snakes actually have oil?"
I was gonna say that's actually pretty good, but the locals agree
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"We fooled you! The point wasn't to serve you an exquisite meal, but to turn you into an exquisite meal!"
I was just thinking that this solves the problem too
Of course the pretentious guy loves the opposite of what was supposed to happen
Guess the guy had a vore fetish
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"By the swamp muck, lassie! You look like a slasher villain"
"You smell like garbage!"
"Delicious garbage!"
Did they remember to fix the dishes?
We will see
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Is that you, Pleakley?
I was just thinking the same thing!
Oh, please, he's the only critic in town
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