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"If you think El doesn't need to end the show in a relationship and she can be happy without one, then that goes for Will too" here's why you're wrong.
The reason why it's different for Will, whether you like it or not, IS because of his sexuality. Homophobia and Will's belief that he'll never find romantic love because of him being gay is a core part of his character. Romantic love, or the lack thereof, has been an important part of his story for at least the past two seasons. He already has an abundance of love from his friends and family. He's not lacking on that part. But he wants romantic love. That is what he desires. They have made that clear. And they have gone out of their way to show us that he wants that with MIKE. And they have even taken it a step further and shown us why Mike and Will would be good together. They bring out the best in each other and they make one another feel good about themselves. So, for them to do all of that and then end the show by reaffirming Will's belief that he was right and he's never going to find love because he's gay is a very cruel and pointless ending for his character. He has suffered enough. He should be allowed to end the show with the boy he loves and believing that he's worthy of that type of love. He deserves to have the relationship he's always wanted and thought he would never have.
Romantic love has never been an important part of El's story. Since season 1, she has been trying to find a family/home and she has been trying to find out who she is in a world she was isolated from since birth. That is the most important part of her story and character. Her relationship with Mike has never been the main focus. In fact, she does better and she thrives more and she sees the most development as a person when her and Mike are separated. They have shown us that their relationship holds her back and that they're not good for each other. They don't make each other feel loved or good about themselves. Now, that's not to say I don't think El should EVER be in a relationship. She can! But a romantic relationship, especially one with Mike, is not as important to her story as it is to Will's. In fact, a relationship with Mike has done more bad than good for her. She doesn't NEED romantic love or a relationship with Mike for her happy ending. Her happy ending can consist of her just being able to live comfortably with her family and knowing who she is and feeling confident in her identity. That ending is what will be the most fulfilling for her character.
#I fear the people who say that just don't understand basic storytelling or the concept of character arcs#romance can be important for one character while not being important for another#crazy I know#byler#will byers#stranger things#st5#el hopper byers#el hopper
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shipping discourse is so crucial because it encourages people to examine and re-examine their perceptions of female characters. when we actively think about why a ship feels comfortable or uncomfortable, we are less likely to be swayed by patriarchal notions of womanhood disguised as progressive ideals within fandoms.
female-dominated spaces, like many fandoms, are growing more conservative in tone, especially around complex female characters, and there is a growing discomfort with heroines attracted to villains. this trend parallels the conservative impulse to judge a person's morality based on their reading preferences. (a bad, bad thing.)
we are seeing a huge shift towards puritanical ideals of female purity (check out the trad-wifers on tiktok), and it is a rot seeping into fandoms. we have to keep shipping discourse alive. we have to keep talking about female characters and their complicated relationships with themselves, but also with other characters, including their attraction to morally-grey or outright villainous characters. keep asking people to examine and re-examine their perceptions of womanhood. keep them thinking.
we cannot let our fandoms reduce complex female characters and their relationships to simple moral statements. this approach creates a pipeline to conservative radicalisation, where the only shipping discourse allowed is through a tiny patriarchal lens. fandoms are spaces were we should explore, brainstorm, and celebrate female complexity, resisting the urge to flatten characters and their relationships into 'good' or 'bad' based on narrow conservative ideas of female purity.
#haladriel#ghoulcy#oshamir#women using men as the vessels in which to explore their relationship with power and hope and darkness and survival is important#storytelling as a form of survival is deeply woven into womanhood and we can't let the conservatives take it from us#we can't let our fellow women be radicalised by patriarchal ideals in fandom spaces which is very much happening right now and it's scary#feminism tag#shipping discourse is so important#keep it alive#this stuff includes not wanting female characters to be romantically attached at all#which is a growing trend disguised as feminist but is really deeply puritanical
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#devil may cry#dmcedit#dmc dante#dante#nelo angelo#dmc1#vergil#dmc vergil#smth about how none of this scene nor the one before it had any dialogue just rly gets me#some very important storytelling even tho we dont have full context if you went in blind + it all happening wordlessly... so good#my edit#my stuff
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Cas has it 😭😭😭
#moving these characters around like little chess pieces#the enviornmental storytelling of Dean & Cas' relationship is soooooo important to me#destiel#deancas#destiel fic#destiel fanfiction
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I do love how in the Odyssey you spend the first four books following Telemachus, hearing with him from everyone else how great and wonderful Odysseus is, and how tragic it is that he isn't there. You hear from Nestor and Menalaus and Helen, and even Athena and those left at Ithica are building Odysseus up as a great hero. The reader gets an idea of who he is and a sense of the pressure of Missing Legacy To Uphold for Telemachus.
And then we follow Hermes to Calypso's Island and still no Odysseus while Hermes and Calypso hang for a bit. And finally we meet the titular hero almost 5 books in, and the very first thing he's doing is weeping on the beach.
Which is such a facinating--and, to our modern ear, kind of funny, since tears arent """manly""" "hero" behaviour--juxtaposition of Great Hero vs man crying on the beach, and I love it so much. It instantly changes him from a hero of renown, a huge legendary figure Telemachus could never live up to, to a man who just wants to go home.
#wren rambles#the odyssey#Odysseus#telemachus#desperate to pick apart telemachus' part in the story#because hes SO IMPORTANT#just that. arc of missing father->legacy to uphold->finally meeting him#and the way people keep telling him to be like Orestes#ahhhh#the THEMES#ALSO from a storytelling perspective the formating here is WONDERFUL#because weve spent a decent chunk of time hearing about Odysseus through the eyes of his friends and comraids#and like telemachus likely have built up an image of him#so to have his very first act in the whole story be CRYING is raaahahh#and he cries SO MUCH in the story
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Omg how many assumptions can people do from a fucking 2 minutes video where all they did was collecting random punchlines just to make people laugh, calm downnnnnn
#wwdits#Even the lack of nandermo IM GLAD THERE IS A LACK OF NANDERMO IT MEANS IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART AND CANT SPOILER IT IN A TRAILER#Why is it so bad that they are exploring Laszlo and Nadja fighting???#Of course they love each other and them fighting but then resolving it will be the most romantic shit ever#Are we forgetting how storytelling works#Ok I'm done rambling
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I feel this on a deep, emotional, mental, physical and spiritual level. No other show has ever affected me as profoundly as The Legend of Korra. Yes, yes, yes to everything in this post, thank you for expressing exactly how I feel🥰
The Legend of Korra is a really important show to me personally, but I can't even say the first two letters of the main character's name without 𝓔𝓿𝓮𝓻𝔂 𝓯𝓾𝓬𝓴𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓱𝓾𝓶𝓪𝓷 𝓸𝓷 𝓮𝓪𝓻𝓽𝓱 giving me their two cents that the first show is better. I didn't fucking ask. It's just a show I've accepted I can never so much as mention, and that hurts............. Korra was the first time I saw myself mirrored in a protagonist, she empowered me and made me so proud of who I am. I'm glad so many people love the original, it's a great show, but that's not an excuse to constantly put me down for liking the second show more.
#avatar korra#asami sato#korrasami#asami x korra#legend of korra#korra#the legend of korra#asami#tlok korra#avatar the legend of korra#thank you Bryke#storytelling is important#representation matters#Korra touches the very depths of my soul#a lasting impact that changed my life
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Storytelling via character design:
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Everything around the Isabeau confession is so well written.
Firstly, the set up. When you're playing the game, killing the King is just a vague goal. A natural one! But other than the vague desire to hit an end point, there isn't really a strong emotional reason compelling the player forward. But Isabeau!!! Telling you he will tell you something once you beat the King!!! That!!! That is a tangible goal to lean onto especially over time as you get more and more endeared to the whole party. Even if you're not aware of it being a love confession, getting to Isabeau to hear what he has to say is still a compelling reason get to the end.
And if you're Aware of how these things go for stories like these, you may also say, "Well shit, we're not gonna get a confession until the end of the game, are we?"
Second, the interruptions. The order of the interruptions are so quietly brilliant. I can't get over it. Bonnie interrupting first is such an excellent choice. You know Bonnie!!! Bonnie has been jumping into conversations all game so far. So interrupting Isabeau doesn't seem all that out of place. Then Mirabelle interrupts next time. And you go, okay. Thats two of three.... but surely Odile won't interrupt, right? By this point, the player has seen Odile tease Isabeau multiple times about him liking Siffrin, so surely she won't interrupt... right? Right??? But she does. And despite it being obvious that she would, the player is still left in tension if she would.
The way things are set up, there's a plausible deniability each time. You don't expect the first interruption, Bonnie naturally would interrupt so Mirabelle could be surprising, and Odile interrupting feels so outside of what she'd usually do that you don't expect it.
And yet!!!! Saying all this!!! This is very tropey!!! Very time loop tropey!!! Stopping people from messing things up so you can have your moment is quintessential time loop tropes and yet!!! It doesn't feel tropey due to good characterization and story structure.
(And if you do realize that all three are going to interrupt from the beginning, you get a wave of DREAD when you realize that you're going to be here. Again and again. That you have to beat the King again and again and again... and as you watch the confession fizzle, seeing the Head Housemaiden there, despite Siffrin's happy demeanor, you can't help but feel it all about to crash down before it even happens. In that moment you have a taste of what the game is about to put you through).
Third, the family quests. I have two points here. Firstly, "yelling at your screen like it's a telenovela" is the best summary of my feelings on the stargazing scene. Even if you KNOW Isabeau isn't going to confess until the end of the game bc that's how these things go, it won't happen until the end because that's how good writing works, You Still Want It To Happen. So Badly. You want Isabeau to confess to Siffrin!!! You want that tension to release!!! But you have to watch and see that perfect confession slip away every time and it hurts to watch, especially if you do the quests multiple times. Second point is the fact you can't continue the Isabeau confessions on a family run kills me. It's so good. Like you're never going to get everything in one go no matter what you do so you have to pick and choose. And!!! That plays into Siffrin feeling like he's manipulating Isabeau!!!
Of course Siffrin isn't actually manipulating Isabeau but when you're so aware of what you're doing and how events could have played out, it's difficult not to see a situation where you changed the outcome as manipulation. Which... of course leads us to Siffrin's feelings at the end of trying to stop the interruptions...
Fourth, Isabeau stopping himself when confessing. It hurts so good. Idk just. Denying the player that payoff. Denying Siffrin that moment of confession. Because really Siffrin didn't learn the lesson needed to actually get this moment of vulnerability between the two of them. It's such a genius choice that brings that awful dread and hopelessness. And in the end, I suppose all five of them stop the confession from happening because from that point onward, Siffrin interrupts the confession every time. Siffrin doing everything they can to get what they want only to accept that they're never going to get it. Never CAN get this because he doesn't deserve it.
Finally, bad touch. People have talked about bad touch enough, so I dont need to go too far with it. I will say I appreciate how much it doubles down on subverting the "romancing someone in a time loop" narrative. These loops while in some ways made Siffrin more perceptive, they're also PAINFUL. They mess with his head, lean towards making worse and worse decisions, and a large part of that is his role in his family's lives. Especially with Isabeau!!! So yeah. Of course the surprise kiss doesn't go well. Especially with the context that Isabeau doesn't think Siffrin wants to be touched let alone kissed? It ends in disaster just like most of the sidequests do.
In general, the ongoing Isabeau plot is very well implemented. The seeds for it are planted immediately, and it takes a lot of commitment to see all the parts of it. As a result, unless you try to do a ton of runs in act 3 immediately just to get the confession, it's a very slow burn part of the story, doing well to parallel Siffrin's mental state and the growing hopelessness in the loops. It grounds the story in a tangible goal from the beginning and in many ways, once you get to the end of it, get to bad touch, you're left bereft. Something... lost after you spent so much time being aware of Isabeau. That tangible feeling that you're slowly running out of things to do, of ways to spend these two days.
(And of course, then you have act 6 confession, and the pure relief, the joy in finally having the confession after it being set up from act 1. Siffrin doesn't need to reciprocate for it to have its impact. Something has CHANGED they have changed. And finally FINALLY after all this time, the moment can happen. And it's beautiful).
#isat#long post#isat spoilers#isafrin#isabeau isat#siffrin isat#this post is half talking about structure and half plain storytelling#but both are really interesting in regards to the isabeau confession plotline#Also adding here: and the game does all this without the confession feeling like the main plot!!! bc its not!!! its about siffrin and his-#relationship with himself and the sense of home who they are and what they can even be#and while isabeau is a major part so is everyone else!!!! and that!!! that also makes isabeau impactful because he is a piece of a greater#whole of support from the family he isnt the special one he loves siffrin but that doesnt mean his love is any more important than the#others but rather its a different flavor of love that siffrin doesnt have experience in... and thats what makes it harder to deal with in#the loops. Siffrin can do this friendship thing but romance is its own beast#anyway rambling but the writing in the isabeau confession is done so so well I adore it#my posts
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Okay media consumers, I'm gonna ask you to follow some lines of logic with me.
For good stories to exist, there needs to be conflict.
For conflict to happen, one or more characters will almost always need to make bad choices.
Just because a character makes one or a few bad choices does not automatically earn them the label of "toxic".
Just because said character does not experience immediate consequences due to their bad choices does not mean that they never will (especially if their story is not yet finished), nor does it mean that their creator is romanticizing or portraying their bad choices in a good light.
I mean, come on. You guys love a good slow burn romance. The least you can do is get used to the idea of slow burn conflict.
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DO NOT INTERPRET THIS POST AS ME SAYING THAT YOU SHOULDN'T DISAGREE WITH ANY CHARACTER'S ACTIONS EVER. DO NOT DO THAT.
I can tell some of you are already thinking about doing that.
Don't.
Please.
I don't have the energy for that.
#this post was inspired by#my adventures with superman#maws#i'm literally begging you guys to have a smidgen of patience#i'm sorry if i sound combative but holy hell#the story is not even close to done yet#suspend your disbelief and withhold your judgement for ONE SECOND#it's genuinely so important to learn to extend grace to people who aren't even real#as part of the practice of engaging with stories#because if you shut down at the slightest hint of conflict you have completely lost the ability to see yourself in it#yourself and others#engaging your sense of empathy is a huge part of media comprehension#please for the love of storytelling put down your knee-jerk labels and give yourself grace#anyways thank you for coming to my ted talk#this post does not just apply to the maws fandom by the way
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Something like this?
Yeah! Very close to that!
From the top view, the toes would still be pretty indistinguishable because the fur would still obscure where one ends and another begins, but that's about right.
At this point in their evolution, you'd be able to tell right away from the tool claw that they're not Felis Catus Domesticus anymore. I had a specbio project I worked on for a while where I called them something like Felis Narrans I think.
#It was a personal reference to an old college professor who was very inspiring to me#She overheard this theory once that humans shouldn't be called Homo Sapien but 'Homo Narrans'#Because of how storytelling and parables were more important to our species than individual intelligence#So she would put that into practice by. Instead of scolding us if we fucked up. She would find a parable to talk about#And after the parable was done she would state its moral lmao#I don't know if anyone else in that class appreciated it but my autistic ass did#Like one time we didn't clean up a space after we used it and she launched into the Tragedy of the Commons#With the exaspiration of an aging dramaturge#I loved her class#Bone babble#speculative biology
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Wasn’t sure how mean I was gonna be today but I can’t resist Alfie do lots of Alfie sentences please and thank you 😘💜
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Here’s the old Alfie art for motivation 💜
39 Alfie sentences!!! Your wish is, as always, my command. And I LOVE the Alfie art, thank you so much 🥺 you get two bonus sentences for that 😊
“Anyways!” he interjects before either of them can come up with another reason to roast him. “Tommy and I actually had reason behind coming and finding you.” “Ah, are you looking for sage advice from your elder? What can I help you two with?” Bobby sets down the tea towel he’d been holding and places both hands on the counter, an expectant but friendly look on his face. “Well actually, we more wanted to ask something of you,” Tommy explains. “Or, Evan did.” Bobby’s gaze settles on Buck, and he swallows thickly. It really shouldn’t be this nerve-wracking to ask this of Bobby, considering everything they’ve been though together, but in all of these years, neither of them have ever put words to this dynamic between. Everyone else in the station has been happy to – muttering “father and son” at least once a week – but it’s not something either Buck or Bobby have openly acknowledged. Until now, at least. “Tommy and I, uh, we realised the other day that Alfie doesn’t really have any grandparents near him. I’m not really in contact with Mom and Dad these days, and Tommy obviously hasn’t spoken to his parents in years.” Buck watches as Bobby’s expression changes, initially his brows furrowed inquisitively before smoothing out as a look of understanding passes over him. Like he knows where this is going. Buck takes a step back, searching for Tommy’s hand. As their fingers lace together, he feels his anxiety seep from him, strength taken from his husband’s presence. “S-so we were – we were hoping that maybe – if it’s okay with you guys of course – th-that you and Athena could be like his grandparents? If you’d be comfortable with that?” The words are barely out of Buck’s mouth before Bobby’s arms are around him, pulling him into a tight hug. He can feel Bobby’s fingers digging into the meat of his shoulders as he clutches Buck to him, as though he’s afraid he’ll disappear. He’s released almost as quickly, but Bobby keeps a hand on his shoulder. There are tears in his eyes, mirroring the ones threatening to spill in Buck’s own, and Bobby reaches up to wipe them away before speaking. “I would be honoured to. Honestly, you two have no idea how much that means to me, and how much I’m sure it’ll mean to Athena. We both love that little boy so much, and you two as well. It means the world that you asked.” “Well we figured, what with all the jokes about you being like Evan’s father, that we’d make you officially Alfie’s grandpa. Seems like the least we could do to repay everything you’ve done for us,” Tommy says, his hand settling on the small of Buck’s back. Bobby laughs wetly, taking another swipe at his eyes. “Yeah well, someone had to parent that kid. You should have seen him back then, Tommy.” “Oh, I’ve heard the stories.” Tommy smirks and he presses a cheeky kiss to Buck’s temple. Buck curls into Tommy, resting his head against Tommy’s shoulder. He feels light and floaty, the relief that had surged through him after Bobby’s response akin to helium. He’s about to open his mouth to thank Bobby when Jee comes barrelling into the kitchen, all limbs and pre-schooler excitement. “UNCLE BUCK!” she yells, launching herself at him, and he catches her around the middle, hoisting her up into his arms. “Daddy says to tell you guys to get your lazy asses into the lounge so we can open presents!” “That is not what I said!” Chimney yells from the lounge, and Jee covers her mouth with her hand, letting out a little giggle. “Yes it is,” she whispers conspiratorially in Buck’s ear. “But he told me to say it nicer.”
obligatory @hippolotamus tag
Make Me Write!!!
#james answers things#i'm sorry there's no actual alfie here#but it's important storytelling!#I hope you like it 🥺#bucktommy#tommy kinard#evan buckley#bobby nash#jee yun buckley han#911 abc#911 fic#make me write
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taz balance is so fucking hard to recommend to people I'll be like "fuck the bible, THIS is the greatest story ever told" and then the first episode is one long masturbation joke with super detailed explanations of the rules of dnd 5e
#taz balance#i hate this podcast#do you known how fucking embarrassing it is when you've been telling people it's the pinnacle of collaborative storytelling (it is)#you'll be like 'these characters are incredibly important to me' and then the podcast is like 'uh i named my wizard after mexican food'#me: there are scenes in this that have permanently altered my brain chemistry. this is the thing i put on when life feels hopeless.#the podcast: haha we're going into the jerkoff tunnel :D#genuinely so humbling
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Hey, so with the Loki season two finale airing in like four days, a show featuring a currently heavily implied romance between a dark haired immortal being who played a role in human history searching for his purpose and a just some blond guy—I feel like marvel has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever, three years and four days after destiel was made canon and promptly executed on live television.
#do you see the vision?#because I do and it is in like 4K#Lokius cannot be queerbait I REFUSE#just….loki and mobius standing in a room alone#after mobius finaly remembers (because he better mr fiegie I’m in your walls)#loki does some speach about searching for his purpose—finaly making things right#and the reason why he put his life on the line and became the god of storytelling to save the universe was his friends#or specifically one very important friend#and he says it#he finally says it despite all his loved ones seeming to leave—because he has already lost mobius once#he knows what that feels like and he can’t watch him leave again#and mobius just smiles and says it back#like he should#like he has wanted to for a long time#lokius#loki season 2#mobius#loki#destiel#november 5th
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"Alright and then my last question on the celebration because we are huge fans of this—maybe the greatest establishment of all time—how was the party at E11even?" "From what we remember? Yeah. You know, that whole week was crazy."
Empty Netters | 8.26.24 (x)
"The next day—" "Still haven't slept?" "Still have not slept. That night I probably got an hour of sleep. Maybe 2 hours. The next night was the boys night in Miami. So we have dinner at Catch—which is... what a great spot down in Miami Beach! And then we go to E11even. And E11even put on one of the greatest parties I'll ever go! I don't know if I'll ever go to a better party!" "Big Dog's there? Pitbull?" "I can't remember! But it was—I remember. It was incredible! Like it wasn't even like guys were going crazy. We've been drinking for 3 days straight so you're already in the pocket! You're just enjoying all the fans and like the night that they put on for us was like—it was incredible! We own the place basically! It was so fun! A night I'll remember forever!"
Cam & Strick Podcast | 8.27.24 (x)
and just for prosperity sakes monty and swaggy had public signings at hollywood collectibles on the 29th and even 2 days after the event™ they could not remember jack shit about it (x)(x)
so in conclusion: "so about e11even-" "i dont remember anything about it but it sure was fun ill remember that i dont remember 😃"
#brandon montour#matthew tkachuk#carter verhaeghe#florida panthers#everything about the e11even adventures makes me giggle#you know the shinji “i will enjoy my weekend to the fullest” (unspeakable horrors) “what a good weekend!” meme#that but cats with e11even#the way montys eye shift left to right as he tries to recall anything about that night and very quickly realises he absolutely cannot#the way he blew out of his mouth oh i felt that in my soul#very obsessed with maffhews storytelling voice#“i cant remember :D” he says and immediately retracts that to go no “I remember” obviously like obviously guyssss of course i do#girl who lies to make the story funnier#in which way did she lie welp thats a tossup!#chatty kathy loves gossip! and boy does she love retelling the messy parts of her life!#schrodingers can maffhew actually retell specific details of that night who knows thats the beauty of it#once again im not surprised swaggy remembers nothing as well because wow yeah#would love to see if any of the other cats can even remember anything lmaoooo#very important to archive this guys i promise you
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what is their problem tbh
#lg doodles#nooo dont turn ur art jealousy into misplaced hatred noo~~#sry ive been thinkig of yotasuke a lot recently so im goig 2 make it ur problem too#also i liked yatoras beanie + glasses look hes kind of a loser#they r drawn ontop of jayjaykay shibuya spoiler drawing if u can believe it#blue period#yotasuke#yatora#ngl im still so floored by the admissions reveal#inwhich we find out yotasuke was never accepted 4 his art .. LIKE THTS CRAZZYYYYYY#smth so real abt their shared envy . and their disconnect w each other#n yet they still hang out tgt#n for the like . wats it called . idk its 2 am#their like . perception of each other as artists n how that inverts w the reveal . U KNWO WHAT J MEAAAN#like yatora always revering yotas work and yota struggling to understand yatoras passion n yatora feeling inadequate#and yotasuke almost protected by his skill alr bc he has that foundation and he thinks thats all he needs#n then like .dealing w the realization that u can have all the skill in the world but if ur msg isnt there if ur passion or ur identity isnt#in ur work then what are u saying for urself (yotasuke) vs yatora realizing that his art can and does speak for itself n that is just as#important or just as transformative as having smth visually pleasing and that being a storyteller can be ur strongest asset#and u are as much an artist as the guy who renders still lives w utmost ease (ytaske)#n thats not even going in2 the way they feel . yota like art is an obligation and yato like art is a decision u make for urself#these 2 are sick inthe head .
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