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Summary of Tesilid’s regression rounds, with sources

Contains major, MAJOR, MAJOR spoilers for webtoon-onlys.

I recommended you read this only after the Mermaid Dungeon arc (chapter 156) or at least after Ailette talks to the Pope (webnovel chapter 140).

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Feel free to let me know if there's any mistakes or missing info! (Last updated: 7 Aug 2024) (In the process of updating with official TL's quotes)

Tesilid turned 20 shortly before the Holy Sword Dungeon [69].

Tesilid wakes up in the Sculptor’s Atelier with the Order of the Pillar of Light Knights of Worship each time, in the spring of his 20th year [205].

The time between each loop is “less than taking a night's sleep” [136].

Rounds 1-7: Died because of the Knights of Worship [84]

3x because of the commander Gadville’s stupid plans

1x because of vice commander Lecto making things difficult because of his inferiority complex

3x because of mistakes, betrayal and coerced sacrifices

Not clear if all of these deaths occurred in the Sculptor’s Atelier dungeon

Bandit Village / Harpy Queen Dungeon

Round 8:

Requested to be transferred to a different unit [84]

Gave in to the hostage threat and was killed by the bandits [84]

Readers called him "Tez the Tryhard" because of this lol [84]

Round 9: Trained to get strong & wiped out the bandits, but was lured by the village chief (bandit leader) into a trap and killed [84].

Attempted suicide for the first time [88]

Even in the present round, Tesilid still holds a grudge about this [88]

Round 10:

Killed the village chief. Summoned back to the Vatican, disciplined and demoted Disciplinary action taken against him on the grounds of fighting the bandits while ignoring the hostages [84]

Had his life saved by Leonard Rodeline (Ailette's dad) and his advanced healing potions [5]

Round ?? but before 16: Goes to Republic of Magic as a diplomatic envoy, gets captured by the princess (Audillet Marcellion) and subjected to vivisection (being cut up for experimental purposes while alive) [84]

Possibly the same round: Discovered a blood relative in the Magic Republic, but things went sour soon after. [84].

Round 14: Raises his aura and divine power; devotes his life to training. Discovers that his natural lifespan was longer than average [152]

Round 16: Killed by his little brother Prince Rigarez [84].

3rd Prince Ligares Rigarez holds a grudge against the Vatican because he believes they kidnapped his blood brother the 2nd Prince Reminick (Tesilid), so he killed Tesilid as the wielder of the Holy Sword [160]. Tesilid dies with a stab wound from his brother & in the wilderness while it was raining heavily [84].

Before his death, Tesilid had acted as an official escort for Princess Celesteed. This "earned him the scorn of both princes, forcing him through unimaginable hardship" [193].

Before Round 17: Visited the Mermaid Dungeon and found the gondola with the anti-capsizing buff [147]

Round 17: Killed by Reed in the Sculptor’s Atelier. Was physically dragged to Reed by the other knights of the Order of the Pillar of Light. Was unable to resist because of the shock [93].

Narration in OG novel calls this the first time where he felt disillusioned by his life because of how he just kept dying [84]

MAJOR SPOILERS

Current Tesilid describes his first Loop 17 differently: "he spent his lifetime wasting away, too emotionally exhausted from dealing with the fate of having to return despite the world's hostility" [156]

[SPOILERS FOR 215] 117 and 100 both spent their first Loop 17 searching the entire continent for Ailette after leaving the religious order

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Round 18: First time challenging for the right to open the Bible Catechism of Truth [120]

Asked “Why do I return?”; receives the answer “To save the world”.

Round 19: Asks the Bible of Truth, “How do I save the world?”. Until Round 89, all subsequent questions to the Catechism of Truth (to Ailette's knowledge) were about clearing dungeons [120] (Tesilid's question in Round 94 deviates from the OG!Novel)

Round 25: Queen Laviosa of the Vinchester Kingdom frames Tesilid so that she can personally flog him [193]

Round 40:

Becomes an aura master [191]

First loop where he meets Muriel Phylise [207]

Round 85: First time saving the world

Defeats all 3 demon kings, seals the Chaos and Evil. No more dungeons and demons can appear on the continent [136]

Cardinal-class divine power, aura master who has double-digit aura blades. [136]

Dies soon after the battle but is satisfied. [136]

The Church has a habit of killing him in various ways as soon as the world is saved. This includes being:

burned alive

hanged

pushed off a cliff

surrounded by knights who stab him

given poison that put him to sleep, then being given a grand state funeral and buried alive [137]

Round 86: Second time saving the world [136] and first round where he gets together with Muriel [154, 207].

Did not get life-threatening injuries in the final battle [136]

“Handed over his vitality for the Saint who had been in a tragic accident” [136].

OG!Tesilid fell in love with Muriel in this round [154] / first got together with her in this round [207]

Ailette calls this round the end of Tesilid’s puritanical life [154] and the point at which she would no longer be able to tease him for his lack of romantic experience [164].

Muriel was cursed by a demon [207]

" 'You entered the saintess' bedroom to share your life force with her because she was dying, then...you, uh, you stayed the night.' The original story mentioned that when morning came, the birds sang outside the window. Considering the genre, that left only one possible interpretation of what could have happened." [208]

Round 87: Third time saving the world.

Died in place of the Saint who was falsely accused because of some conflict [136] within the Vatican, for which Tesilid took the blame [207]

Tesilid was overprotective of Muriel in this round which meant she was safe from physical harm [207]

Round 88: Fourth time saving the world, now with minimal damage to allies. Visited the Saint seeking a quick way to die [136]

Saint frames Tesilid of being a cult leader. As he was about to be burnt at the stake, she smiled kindly at him and said, “This world needs you to die. I’m sorry, and thank you for your sacrifice, Sir Tesilid.” [136]

(Note that Ailette refers to Rounds 86-88 as the ones where Tesilid is "betrayed by a woman that he loved with all his heart. Three consecutive times. [...] He probably would've died for her many more times had he not realized the truth” [84]. But in Tesilid’s POV [136] as recounted above, he seems more ambivalent about the Saintess.)

Round 89: Asks the Bible of Truth, “How do I stop regressing?; is told, “You just need to save the world”. Destroys the Library, hacks Demon King Inferinos to pieces, and commits suicide [120; 136]

Round 90-92: Asks the Bible of Truth, “How do I stop regressing?”; is told, “You just need to save the world” [136]

Round 93: Saves the world, then asks the Bible of Truth, “How do I stop regressing?” as the dungeons started collapsing; is again told, “You just need to save the world”. Dies when the dungeon collapses. [136]

Round 94: Goes to the Bible of Truth again out of habit. Asks, “Where is Ailette Rodeline?” [136]

Saves the world just to have something to do, and because he was good at it. 5th time saving the world. [136]

Does not go to the Bible of Truth again until Round 99 [137]

Reed places Round 94 as the last timeline where he would have been willing to take Ailette’s hand [138]

Rounds 94-98: Saves the world just to have something to do, and because he was good at it [137]

Round 98: 10th time saving the world [137]

Took less than 5 years because he only thought about efficiency and did not spare a thought for human life.

Round 99: Walked into the final battleground with “Chaos and Evil” himself and talked to it.

Is called the “Clock Hand of the Strict Order and Goodwill”

Told to ask the Bible of Truth, “What is the truth?” [Ailette POV in Library arc, 120] or “Why does the world continue to get destroyed?” [Tesilid POV, 137].

Prayed until he died [137].

Round 100: Reed

Offers himself to “Chaos and Evil” and loses his holy power. Holy sword becomes corrupted. Is banished to the dimensional rift where time stops. Rips through the dimensional rift after less than a hundred years, compared to the estimated few hundred years. [137]

Finds a point in time before the loop starts and sees Ailette’s Descent of Divinity (current Reed only). Visits the Vatican which was full of people celebrating the lunar genesis (start of the new month, specifically February [77]). Burns everyone (including himself) to death. Gives sincere prayers for the regression to end. Week of regression starts as the world rewinds and Reed kills Tesilid again [79; 138]

“I can’t save the world or myself, so what am I supposed to do?” / “My salvation means death, so what about the salvation of this world?" / "What if annihilation is the only way to save this world?” / “That was it. That was the answer. I will disappear if the world I belong to disappears as well.” / “You have no idea how happy I was to discover this. I’ve always hated this world.” / "To think I could destroy the world I struggled so many times to save... It feels so... thrilling." [138]

Subdued by 6 humans [156] who became legendary heroes [138] including Cardinal Cartelyena [139]

Tesilid calls this round the "timeline that I felt I was the most human" [139] (fan TL of 139 & 156 calls it the last time he lived like a human)

It's implied that in the 2nd Loop 17, the Knights of the Temple wouldn't have shown up at the near Greenwall where Tesilette reunited with the other two because they wouldn't have been tracking down the Saint [91]

Effects of drinking water from the Fountain of Life:

Early stage: insomnia, nightmares, hallucinations, confusion, mental weakness [153]

Middle stage: Lack of emotions, loss of memory, loss of three major powers [153]

End stage: Soul disintegration (still treatable), then soul extinction [153]

“You can still live as long as you breathe, even if you're not holding yourself together. Also, memory loss could be useful in the long run because your most difficult moments will feel like they never happened." [154]

Childhood:

First Prince Hardale was the one responsible for Reminick and Rigarez' kidnapping [196: "(Rigarez) will come to his sense once I remind him who's responsible for the loss of his brother."; 199]

Tesilid never found out about his familial ties to the Vinchester royal family during his loops [205].

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microwaving-tesilid-argente · 1 year ago

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Theory on the timelines in S-Class Heroine

Disclaimer: These are speculations based on the 152 chapters that I’ve read so far.

If you’re a webnovel reader who's read spoilers past Ch152, please don’t confirm or deny anything in this post, thank you <3

If you're a webcomic reader, obviously do not click read more if you haven't read until around chapter 140. I'm so serious it will ruin your reading experience.

Establishing some essentially-confirmed facts/assumptions

Although Ailette hasn't realised it yet, it's already been confirmed by the TM gods that she's not in the 17th timeline. I'm pretty sure she's on the 101st-cum-100th timeline. The 101st Tesilid is the one she saved and is journeying with, while the 100th Tesilid is Reed.

I think what happened when the 101st lived as Reed is that he got sealed by Cardinal Cartelyana and the other 4 heroes into a dungeon. The very same dungeon that Ailette got the save point from; the one with a prisoner that Ailette thought was the boss but which the 3rd person narration confirmed was the prisoner. Ailette closes the dungeon, killing the prisoner and causing her sin counter to become "1". (Although to be fair that 1 might be referring to another incident, since sin can include things other than causing someone's death.)

Tesilid being the dungeon's prisoner explains why he has such a paralyzing fear of the dark and silence - because that's what he dealt with for an unknown length of time. There must've been some kind of mechanism that prevented him from killing himself, because that would have caused him to regress and therefore cut his punishment short.

I think the dungeon must've been one where the flow of time in the dungeon was many times faster than that of the real world. So Tesilid could have spent a million years undying in there, but the world would have progressed by only one second and therefore it has not reached the point of them where Tesilid's death and regression was necessary for it to continue existing.

Exploring Reed’s POV

I used to think it was also possible that the 101st Tesilid we know now had never met Ailette during his run as Reed. This is simply because I was coping (lol) and hoping that Tesilid would never have turned Ailette down the way Reed does in around chapter 136. But I’m pretty sure I’m just being delusional here and that Tesilid as Reed would have in fact been hell-bent on destroying the world even if Ailette was in it, since even Ailette herself doesn't believe that her presence is enough to change Reed's mind. But for this point I’m also mindful that Ailette might be an unreliable narrator who is underestimating how important she is to Tesilid - especially since, on the romance side of things, that’s the dynamic that we’re led to believe is happening. Ailette could also be misreading current timeline Reed because she has only ever known Novel Reed, but having Ailette exist in his memories may have made him different from Novel Reed.

But anyway, I think it's possible to explain why Reed may have turned Ailette down despite having waited so long to meet her and despite (presumably) later clinging to her as 101st Tesilid: the corruption by the Chaos and Evil.

Maybe when Reed died and regressed, he got a new body so the corrupting effect was removed. It seems pretty plausible to me since his appearance is back to normal. But since his powers including his Stigma carried over, the ban on his divine powers as a result of committing countless sins also carried over.

So these are the conclusions/assumptions I've made:

Our Tesilid is the 101st Tesilid. As 100th Tesilid/Reed, he was trapped in the abyss dungeon by Cardinal Cartelyana and others until Ailette stole the save point and killed him, therefore causing him to regress into the 101st timeline.

101st Tesilid experienced everything that 100th Tesilid (Reed) has before, including turning Ailette down.

Therefore timeline 100 and 101 are actually the same timeline where Ailette exists. The 100th and 101st timelines are just Tesilid experiencing them from 2 different points of view.

Don't ask me what happened to 17th Tesilid. Maybe he lived because Reed went to the 101st instead. Probably nothing important happened, although he definitely got traumatized in some way or form as is usual for him.

In that case, I think this what eventually happens in the 101st/100th timeline:

Ailette fails to save Reed, but not for lack of trying. Or maybe she simply didn’t have a direct hand in Reed’s downfall. This makes 101st Tesilid more trusting of her.

Cardinal Cartelyana and others still manage to seal Reed in the dungeon with the save point.

100th Tesilid only regresses and becomes “Ailette’s Tesilid” when his version of Ailette closes the dungeon he is in. Death is the only salvation for current version Reed, since it puts him on the path where he can be with Ailette as his uncorrupted self.

Tesilid of all timelines finally finds eternal rest in the 101st timeline where Ailette lives. (Or he uses the save point and finds a way for Ailette to also live/regress forever with him. Which sounds horrible I’ll be honest. A merry bad ending.)

But I really hope Reed doesn’t get offed like this, because it seems like an awfully terrible and unsatisfying ending for him. (And for me!!!! I am a Reed liker!!!!) Since we don't really know if Ailette will show up for him, when the TM gods have already established that there's only one of her.

I also can’t see Ailette consenting to Reed being put in the dungeon. Especially if she discovers that Tesilid has such a paralysing fear of the dark and silence because of that experience. She was so happy to screw up the tutorial period for him and to step in during the 300th dungeon to ensure he was really okay, I don’t think she’ll let this happen willingly.

So maybe Reed just gets instant death instead, but I dunno what that’ll mean for the next round’s Ailette. What if he wakes up without having the time to reflect on himself and to decide to ‘live a good life this time’. Like I know that I said he was probably this homicidal because of corruption, but what if he just decides to destroy the world more thoroughly instead. Ailette’s presence has proven not to be an effective deterrent.

…so maybe Ailette AND uncorrupted Tesilid would consent to Reed being imprisoned. If only to give him and future Ailette a better chance of following the path they took. I think Tesilid’s word would count for more than Ailette’s too, since Reed is. well. his past self. He’d know him best.

Exploring Tesilid’s POV

Another reason why I thought that maybe current timeline Tesilid hadn’t experienced things from current timeline Reed's POV was because there are lots of times when Tesilid seems uncertain about how Reed and Ailette will interact. Which doesn’t make sense if he had already seen everything happen before through Reed’s eyes.

E.g. when Ailette was going to meet Reed in the Vatican, and he says, "nothing will happen… I think."

And when he's pretty upset at Ailette for using Divine Advent when fighting against Reed at the Magic Republic. He didn't really seem to be taking pre-emptive steps during that fight, which makes me think that he didn't experience this fight before from Reed's POV. Or maybe Reed or Ailette or both did something different this time.

And the fact that Tesilid spends a long time not being sure if he can trust Ailette, but ultimately still choosing to do so. If he were also the Reed we see now, I think he would’ve trusted her because he would've known that Ailette would risk the penalty of a heavenly leak in hopes of steering him, who had already become a mass murderer, down the right path.

But I can also think of other reasons why Tesilid might be hesitant to trust Ailette but still ultimately do so though:

Tesilid-as-Reed did get sealed by the world’s heroes, but he did not know whether Ailette was still on the uncorrupted Tesilid’s side. So he thinks that he can probably trust her now that he’s uncorrupted and she thinks he's the 17th round Tesilid, but he does not have proof.

Maybe 101st Tesilid has changed this timeline so much that a lot of things are progressing differently from what it had during his POV as Reed. As the person with the most information, 101st Tesilid is unexpectedly actually the person most in control of the current time loop. If he had already seen everything Ailette and Reed would have done, he is free to choose whether to follow in the footsteps of the "Ailette's Tesilid" that he fought while living as Reed.

Maybe he decided not to do things the same way as the ‘future Tesilid’ he saw did, so to him ‘the plot he is familiar with has changed’ ((Tesilid is so regressed FML vibes… even his propensity to be the damsel in distress who needs constant rescuing)). Since Tesilid is someone who is accustomed to trying different things in every time loop, I don’t imagine that he’ll stop experimenting in this round - especially if he had experienced a future where Ailette is in danger. Or if uncorrupted Tesilid actually died in his timeline as Reed. Or something equally horrible like that.

So in conclusion, my predictions are:

Ailette fails to save Reed, but not for lack of trying. Or maybe she simply didn’t have a direct hand in Reed’s downfall. This makes 101st Tesilid more trusting of her.

Cardinal Cartelyana and others still manage to seal Reed in the dungeon with the save point. Maybe Ailette and uncorrupted Tesilid agree because it’s timeout for Reed so he can calm down before he meets Ailette again.

Tesilid of all timelines finally finds eternal rest in the 101st timeline where Ailette lives.

In the previous timeline that current timeline Tesilid was in (the one where he was Reed), some bad things probably happen to Ailette and other people he cares about. Tesilid is probably taking steps right now to ensure things don’t turn out the same way, and he is already seeing the butterfly effects as of the Magic Republic dungeon burst arc.

Anyway I think it is so funny if Ailette actually does appear in both Tesilid’s 100th and 101st timelines. It’s almost like SHE is the character who has a fixed setting in every timeline, and Tesilid is the MC being isekai’d with knowledge of how the future could unfold. They’re so crazy for this if this really happens. I really love how both Tesilid and Ailette are main characters with so much agency.

But anyway if this doesn’t happen I will be pretty sad lol and please feel free to write fics or something based on this.

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