#roadkill veganism

[aikoiya]

Plant Rights Lunatics

OmG... I just... my head hurts just thinking about this...

I just heard that there are actual studies out there... where people are trying to convince us... that plants feel pain & that they are intelligent & that we shouldn't eat them...

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What does that mean for vegans? What? They just shouldn't eat at all? W-! What do these idiots suggest we do????

I...

I can literally feel myself losing braincells...

I just... why not just say that you want humanity to die & get it over with if you're gonna go this far? Like, give up the damn game & just admit that you're anti-human!

This is basically what not having balance in one's beliefs looks like. It's like how feminism these days is just being anti-man. Now being cruelty free is anti-human & this just makes me so upset!

I just... there should be a limit to the desire to reduce pain! A limit to the amount of 'compassion' that one has. Life is pain! You can't live your life without it!

In order for something to live, something ELSE must DIE!! That's how life WORKS!

These people even made suggestions like only eating fruits that have fallen off the plant & what basically amounts to roadkill!!

Apparently, only eating food that's fallen off the vine is a specific type of Fruitarianism that doesn't even seem to have a name. A decent name might be "fallen fruitarianism." Also, there are vegans that only eat roadkill & they're evidently called roadkill vegans. I haven't found a name for when the 2 are combined, but I imagine it's something like "roadkill fruitarianism" or "forager veganism" or whatever. Or you can just call them dumbasses with death wishes!

Either way, these guys are basically saying that we should go back to being foragers!!

From what I can tell, a fruitarian diet is absolutely not healthy. It could even send you to the hospital!

I wonder how Sam Manson & Damian Wayne would react to this information...

I wonder how any vegan character would react!

Either way, I could care less because I'm gonna eat like a sane human being.

Like... I'd kind of like to see these characters try. Initially, they start with fallen fruitarianism but end up slowly growing weaker & weaker over time because they would no longer be able to take nutritional supplements.

Those things are apparently often made from soy proteins & dairy cultures, so definitely not allowed.

In order to live, they'd need to learn to be okay with the supposed suffering of plants. But then, in such a case, why not eat meat? Don't animals suffer just like plants apparently do? So, why not eat them too? Is the suffering of plants somehow less than that of animals?

And what about animals? Aren't they all just as monstrous as people who choose to eat meat & plantlife that hasn't fallen from the vine? Because, for supposedly intelligent beings, they certainly don't seem to care about the pain they bring.

Like, don't get me wrong, eat what you want, but acknowledge that your choices come with consequences. Don't bring this moralistic bs into it.

Here's the thing. I don't give a flying frickadoo if plants do feel pain. If it's between me or the plant, I'm choosing to save myself. Same with animals!

Even still, plants don't have nerves or pain centers & thus even if they did feel some sort of 'distress,' it wouldn't equate to the same sort of pain that we feel.

Like, of course, they're gonna react to the possibility of cessation. That's how survival works. It's why some plants are poisonous. It's a defense mechanism. No organic life wants to die, but just because it reacts to such things doesn't mean its sentient or sapient. Let alone intelligent.

If all it takes is a desire to live to be equal in value to humanity, then wouldn't antibacterial medicines, soaps, & hand sanitizers be considered chemical warfare?

Also, what about parasites like ringworms? They're alive. Shouldn't that make them just as precious as any other animal? Should we just let them continue to live inside of us when we get them? What about when our pets get worms or fleas? What makes a dog more valuable than them?

What about mushrooms? Shouldn't we protect the poor black mold under our floorboards that just wanted to find a nice moist place to rest even if it literally kills us?

These pussies just need to get a fucking grip.

Actually... I do wonder how animal rights activists react when their pets get fleas or worms. Or when they themselves get parasites...

Like, what do they do? Does it just not count in those situations?

Isn't bacteria alive?

You can't say that "all life matters & it should all be preserved" without taking these things into account.

[aeolianblues]

good god girl, maybe some of us are not vegan because we eat chicken like once in three months?? Would reduction not be a more productive goal of vegan activism than outright banning? Like if your arguments are that animals are being eaten, then you’re being unrealistic about the entire actual concept of the food chain. Humans are omnivores, you do not need to change that to achieve your goals.

A vegan lifestyle is also entirely the product of your geographical location. If you live somewhere that shit does not grow, what are you going to do?? I just think about the difference between food options in India and Canada, for example. India: between the tropics (tropics and equator even, in fact). All-year-round sun, there’s pretty much always stuff growing. Different kinds of land will mean you can grow everything from staples like rice and wheat to vegetables, fruits and plantation crops. It’s reflected in the cuisines: Indian food has a much, much wider offering of vegetarian food, and many more Indians have restricted diets that more or less overlap with vegetarianism. Because crops grows. Locally.

Canada. Harvest in the fall, from November to March, your fields are practically unusable. Compare the prices of fresh produce in (and now I’m being generous to give you a highly populated, non-remote province here for an example) Ontario. Ontario has farms where in the fall you get fresh autumn vegetables and fruits. You’ll also get them in larger quantities. It is way cheaper, fresher and also uses less energy and fuel to transport the vegetables like 50 km from farm to market.

Come the winter and nothing grows. If you look at most vegetables you’ll find on store shelves in December or February, and most of it is either imported from warmer regions of the US (often the case for chains that are in both countries) or from South American countries (sometimes SA -> USA -> Canada). The importing has to go through cross-country customs, had to be driven for days, is less fresh or rich in nutrients by the time you get it, and is more expensive. Of course. And we all come out of it poorer. Is it any wonder why people will eat meat? We’re even talking here about a place like Ontario, very well connected on North American trade routes. Can you justify someone in Yukon deciding to eat meat over a $17/lb. green veg? Be for fucking real…

There simply cannot be a blanket-global solution to animal products. You’ve got to work with what your geography has to offer. It’s the same thing we say when we say that avocados have an environmental cost when you expect them to be available year-round in places they don’t grow. We encourage people to go for more local produce there, and I think the same should go for all parts of your diet too. If your animals are local, then their footprint is lower than importing kiwis from New Zealand to the US. I don’t see how that’s hard to understand.

[lopsidedghoul]

it’s so odd seeing other therians or alterhumans mad that some therians or alterhumans aren’t vegan?? and their excuse being “Well, yours paying for animals suffering. There is no such thing as ethical.” and basically saying if you eat animal products and are alterhuman your identity is invalid??

[bees-with-swords]

Ohhh I read too many of the comments on that last post and now I need to commit violence. So many bad takes.

Listen. I agree that many vegans have absolutist moral philosophies about what is "good" and what is "bad." Some folks (in my experience a vast minority) are way too preachy about it.

That being said. At least they're trying? We clown on stupid vegans but we can't escape the idea that the core methodology (hey let's stop supporting industries which have historically been linked to animal abuse) makes sense! And things making sense make us uncomfortable! We don't want to admit that our existence in society does in fact contribute to a system that causes harm, so we pinpoint all the ways that veganism can cause harm too, to make ourselves feel better!

The issue with this is that most people who pick apart/clown on veganism... Aren't actually doing anything themselves? I know a lot of people who get pissed when others get on a high horse, but also get pissed at vegans who don't get on a high horse, because the very existence of someone who is genuinely trying to make sustainable choices is seen as a threat.

There's a lot of guilt involved, and most people try to turn it around to cast blame on everyone, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism so we don't even have to try, watch me debunk this point so I don't have to acknowledge that other points might be correct.

Dietary activism like veganism is, at its core, the use of privilege for good. I have enough money, I lack allergies, my disabilities don't affect me too heavily and I live in the right sort of place where I can commit to a diet which will hopefully make my contribution to unethical capitalist systems less pronounced. I'm not going to get mad at people for not having privilege, and you're not going to tell me I'm stupid for trying to use my privilege to make a difference. That's the perfect world.

The issue we get to is, ultimately, that on the internet everyone will get mad at everyone for using their money/privilege in a way that isn't good enough. You donated to the wrong charity, people are starving and you're spending extra to buy organic, why would you support art classes for kids when you could support xyz other issues that are MUCH MORE IMPORTANT,

There are bad actors and bad charities (looking at you PETA) in every situation. People tend to use that to paint everything in the same genre with the same brush (thrift stores are evil, make-a-wish charities are frivolous or scams, etc), and then use those painted genres to construct some sort of overarching hierarchy of "the most important" causes to fight for. Then when someone else is making an effort to alter their habits/donate their money/use their privilege for something, it can be attacked/dismissed as a misuse of resources to alleviate guilt ("there are more important issues, your money could be used for better things, why'd you choose to volunteer there," etc). This is a subconscious defensive reaction, I think it's because of envy! Someone else gets to make a difference but you don't have the resources to do the same, and belittling their impact makes you feel less envious. We feel guilty that we've been forced into a system where there is no ethical consumption, and we are envious that someone else can alleviate their impact.

There's a lot to be said about envy. A lot of points have been made about how it relates to privilege and money, not all of which I agree with. But identifying your feelings as envy, saying "I wish I also had the resources to make my consumption under capitalism slightly more ethical," is a very important ability. People who can't identify their own envy end up giving it more say in their lives than it deserves, rather than treating it like the unconstructive brain worm it is.

Tl:dr, don't shame people who are actually trying to make a positive impact. Veganism DOES require privilege but that does not mean it is a tool of the bourgeoisie. The majority of us are all just doing their best.

[parcai]

mayb im just a hater bc now im coming around on levi but feel weird abt bee

[morethanonepage]

like a pork in muck huh

[seabeck]

My brother and his girlfriend, both vegan, have decided to dabble in eating meat again but only if it’s wild. So far they’ve tried roadkill deer backstrap (they said it’s the best steak they’ve ever had, I’ve been marinating it and cooking it medium rare) and trout. We also have some carp in the freezer but neither of us have gotten around to it yet.

[a-b-riddle]

What do you think the 141 boys would do with a reader who loves animals. Im not saying in the "aww theyre so cute" way, im saying that they see a homeless (and homeless could mean wondering the streets even if they have a collar on) and she just wants to take it home. Have you seen that guy on tick tock who trained the seagull? She'd do that but with every bird that flys by her window. Mice? She says your welcome as long as she protects her food a little extra careful. She refuses to hurt them or "scare" them in any way so using traps to catch "vermin" is a no go and she will cry just thinking about it!

Sorry, thank you for reading I love your writings x

Johnny jokes about you being a princess to his family when you first met them. It’s not until a sweet singing bird comes to sit on your shoulder did they realize he was serious. When you found out his Da had been using inhumane traps in his barn, Johnny couldn’t resist those tears. So he set it up where they were just repelled instead of killed. His Da pitched a fit, but Johnny promised to cover the cost.

Kyle is 100% on board with going vegan with you when you said you wanted to try it. The two of you spent countless hours in the kitchen, but what never really worked were cheese alternatives… so you settled on vegetarian, which worked out great. Both of you loved Indian food and not every dish needed meat… but then��� no more sushi. You were disappointed in yourself for being able to only settle for pescatarian, but Kyle reminded you of that pescatarian is still good. He is just proud that you’re trying.

Price realizes that this is his chance to pull you out of the city and into the country. Get you a house with enough land to get you all the critters your heart desires. Come home with a highland cow courtesy of a Mr. MacTavish? He doesn’t care. He has the money to spend on you. If not handbags and jewelry then eventually something.

Simon doesn’t do pets. He refuses your attempts at wanting to get an animal, especially when the two of you had been trying to conceive. When you fall pregnant, it’s definitely a hard no. But your hormones make you cry at the drop of a hat. Seeing stray animals is bad, but roadkill is worse. Simon covers your eyes anytime you’re about to pass a dead animal on the side of the road. When you had come across a large dog one time, Simon had turned the car around after you wouldn’t stop crying to put it in the boot of the car and take it back home to give it a proper burial. He didn’t judge you about petting the deceased dog. Crying over an animal that wasn’t even worse. The next day he comes home with a floppy-eared german shepherd puppy. “Figured the two of them could grow together.” He shrugs, placing the puppy in front of you before kissing the top of your head.

[adaptacy]

Survivor!Leland Headcanons

AKA: Post-TCSM Leland

Cw: Angst, wound scars, injuries, trauma, death, self-damaging behaviors, mention of s/h & sewer slidal thoughts

the brainrot is real and im sorry lee but you are my angst voodoo doll, luv ya bb :(

Important Notes:

I h/c that only he and Connie survived because they're the ones who escape in most of my games, but honestly most of these can go along with whoever you h/c survived- unless you h/c that Leland died... uhm... but then idk why you're here so.. gonna pretend that's not a thing

Also h/c that him and Sonny were definitely dating... you can't convince me otherwise. the whole relationship with Ana was totes a cover up cause it was the 70s but he was still close with all of them, ofc.

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Dizziness/nausea:

Leland was strung up by his ankles for ~2 days in that basement. He still has bouts of dizziness for years after, and he can't go on rides that go upside down because a) trauma and b) he gets really really sick and really dizzy easily. He also has motion sickness as a result of this.

He has trouble smelling things sometimes- like, most of the time, it's fine, but if its something a little faint, he can't smell it. He was surrounded by such a thick stench of rotting meat and death for a while, and it ruined his sense of smell. He also gets nauseous easily when there is a very strong smell, especially if its something like roadkill or even just the smell of meat, like if someone is cooking and the smell is too strong.

Diet:

He was a vegan for like 4-6 months after the incident because he could not eat meat without thinking about the family, what happened to his friends-- what they became. It made him horribly sick, and he refused to eat meat ever again, but it didn't last.

See, even though he was taking iron supplements to make up for the lack of meat, he was having more trouble exercising. and he was exercising a lot. He didn't ever wanna be weak again. He didn't ever want to be unable to defend his friends, to save them, to fight back. So he worked, and worked, and worked. Punching bags were his go-to. Leland is not an angry or violent person, but he wanted to hone his technique just in case. He couldn't risk letting anyone of his friends/family be in danger again.

However, due to his vegan diet, he didn't have the energy required for how much he was straining himself. And he'd get sick because he wasn't eating filling enough meals for all the calories he was burning.

Eventually, choosing that his strength was more important, he started eating meat again, but it took a long time before he was able to eat it without reminders bubbling up. Like... a year and a half. And even then, it happens sometimes. When he bites into something that isn't cooked all the way through- he can't eat boiled chicken, or meat stews because the meat is too soft. Before the incident, he loved medium rare steak, but now he has to eat it well-done because seeing the pink, or worse, seeing the red juice leak out whenever he bites into it immediately sends him back to watching as the family ate human meat.

Physical Scars:

He has scars from the wounds he suffered. Two long ones on his back, from where Johnny sliced him, as well as a smaller one on his right chest from sissy, who also gave him one above his right eyebrow, and one on his left hip from Nubbins. And while he also had other smaller cuts and wounds, those were the ones that were large enough to actually leave scars.

However, he's dumb and will not let them heal. His doctors warn him that he needs to take it easy so his body can repair the damage, but he can't risk letting his strength suffer. So, he works out, far too hard, and every time that his scars get anywhere in the healing process, he'll end up accidentally tearing them open again when he punches too hard, or stretches too far, etc. In the first two months, there were a few occasions where he'd be at the gym, working out as per usual, and he'd feel the wounds rip a little, and then someone else would come up to him to let him know that he's bleeding. For a while, he had to pack extra shirts to change into because his blood would soak through his shirt and he'd need to change it.

Fortunately, after enough time, they stopped bleeding when he irritated them. But constantly opening them back up led to them being a bit larger than they would've been, and far more coarse. As well as sensitive- and not in a good way. It genuinely hurts if too much pressure is applied, plus feeling the pain in that exact area puts him right back in the emotional state he was in when they were dealt.

Sometimes, if he's in a really bad depressive episode, he'll push on his scars and irritate them just to be reminded of everything he went through. To remind himself that it was real. Sometimes to remind himself he'll never be the same. That he'll never be anything more than a survivor, than a victim.

Mental Scars:

Surprisingly, he doesn't develop anger issues. He develops a lot of other problems, and he'll have 'fits', but he doesn't get angry, or violent. He'll kind of just shut down, but its easy to see the way he goes from super friendly and grinning to leaning back in his chair, his eyes somewhat dark, staring off into the distance. It's easy to bring him back by just saying him name, or tapping him on the shoulder, but it does happen.

He's put on a lot of medications, mostly for his injuries, but the only ones that stick past the first year are anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds, and meds to help him sleep. He also meets with a therapist- he's cycled through a few of them, and he started out meeting with them twice a week, but after 3-ish years, he only meets with them once a month. Not because he doesn't need the help- but because he doesn't like revisiting the topic so often, he's trying his best to move on with his life.

He has really bad nightmares, as is to be expected. He'll wake up in cold sweats, and thoroughly believe the sweat is blood, that he's back in the basement, covered in a mix of his own blood and the blood of his friends, and he'll rush into the bathroom, taking off his shirt to check his scars, but they're still just scars. He has to check every single one of them to make sure they're not bleeding, even when they haven't bled in years.

The survivor's guilt is real with this one. He'll see something that reminds him of one of them, and for a while, he'd even go to call them whenever something happened, his hand barely even touching the mounted phone before he remembers. Remembers that they're gone. That they're not coming back. And he wishes it were him. He wishes he'd died instead of them, even if it just brought one of them back.

When he was still trying out different medications, he suffered from a lot of suicidal ideations. He's normally a really cheery guy, and he felt like it was wrong to feel bad- he felt like he wasn't being the person he was supposed to be when he was sad. And that made him feel like a failure. And he didn't want to keep letting people down. Fortunately, he never tried anything, but it happened sometimes when he really missed them, too. He just wanted to see his friends again. Wanted to be with them again. But he'd gently remind himself he survived for a reason, even if he didn't know what that reason was all the time. Sometimes he lived because he needed to carry on their memory. Sometimes he lived because he needed to protect others like them. Sometimes he lived because he knew they would want him to. No matter what the reason, he survived. And he knew he needed to keep surviving.

Hobbies:

He spends a lot of time volunteering at an animal shelter. He doesn't really talk about it to anyone, it's just something he does. He originally started it because his first therapist recommended that he find a hobby that gives back to the community so he can feel like he's doing good, and volunteering at an animal shelter was one of his options. He figured he liked dogs, so he agreed to volunteer for a month just so his therapist would shut up about it.

Well, even after he stopped going to that therapist, and cycled through three others, he still volunteers there. He originally only wanted to work with the dogs- maybe take them out on walks, help feed them, etc. But he really enjoys playing with the cats, too. He finds it way more therapeutic than he originally expected, and he does like that he's helping animals who need his help.

He ended up adopting a 3-legged rescue mutt, and he named it Jacs. Most people assume that it's spelled Jax, but it's not. It's named after his friends- and while its bittersweet, the dog picked up on the name and responded to it near immediately, so it stuck. He brings Jacs everywhere that he can, even brings him to the shelter sometimes and the other volunteers absolutely love him.

Reunions:

Going along with the h/c that he and Connie were the only survivors, but this can be made to fit whatever your head canons are. He and Connie, for a while, stayed pretty close, and helped one another get through all of the lasting effects. But, after a while, the relationship faded. They still meet up, but its rare, and its usually a somewhat tense encounter.

When they were all teenagers, heading off to different colleges, they promised to stay friends forever. And it worked- they stayed friends throughout college, meeting up during holidays, and even had their college graduation party together. And they stayed close friends until the end.

Leland feels guilty. He feels like he's not honoring their promise, and sometimes, he wonders if Connie even remembers. He can't blame her if she doesn't, it was a long time ago, and a lot has happened since then. And he doesn't want to make her uncomfortable. But Connie is the only living reminder of the group, and she just keeps drifting. She has a life for herself, and she's clearly moved on, or at least is trying to. Leland isn't as good at it as her. He constantly misses his friends, and wishes he could've done something different. Leland feels like he's stuck in the past, and everyone else keeps moving forward. And the one person he can talk to about it who really understands is falling through his fingers.

Relationships:

He has trouble building relationships with people. There's always that knowledge that he'll never love, understand, or know anyone else like he knew Jules, Sonny, and Ana. He has friends, of course, but romantic relationships are practically nonexistent for him. He's tried- he's dated here and there, but he feels like any partner he gets will always deserve better. Deserve someone who doesn't have so much baggage, who isn't hung up on the past, who isn't wrecked by anxiety like he is. Because of that, he can't commit to relationships.

It sucks, cause he always wanted a family. When he was younger, if you would've asked him what he wanted to be when he was older, his first answer would've been 'football player', and then it would've been 'dad'. He loves kids, and he loves the idea of settling down, but it feels impossible for him to do.

So, for the time being, he has Jacs, and that's enough for him.

The Notes:

He'll write notes to his friends sometimes. Especially to Sonny. He'll tell them about how his life is going, and how Jacs is doing, or tell them about a new restaurant that they'd love, promising to take them someday. And when he's done, he puts them in a box under the bed. At the end of every month, he burns all of them. It doesn't change anything, but it makes him feel better. Makes him feel like they're still friends.

He always burns them in his fireplace. He'll sit on the carpet in front of it, and Jacs will lay next to him, resting his head in his lap. And Leland will sort the letters out depending on who they're addressed to, and then he'll burn them in batches. He even writes them to Connie sometimes, telling her that he misses her and wishes they were still close like they were in college. He'll even fall asleep on his living room floor as the fire eases into ash and sparks.

[gutspilled-goremaxxer]

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[andalon-historian]

People took the discovery of shapeshifters surprisingly well.

We only figured it out because they revert back to opossums when they die. There were rumors, before phones; people would *swear* this roadkill used to be human! There was the one case of a poor woman who tearfully confessed to the vehicular manslaughter of a young boy, by which she meant a dead opossum. Phones proved it, though; one video of someone getting hit by a car and turning into a rodent could be faked, but hundreds? Scientists investigated, and the gig was up.

They weren't all that dangerous, though. Terrifying, oh yes; the knowledge that someone you pass in the street might not be human? The worry of what they might do? But they're still just animals; they can't talk, they can't use tools, they don't really understand what's going on. It turns out that was good enough to fool us for millennia until we started hitting people with cars-- and even then, until we started recording it.

The conspiracy theorists went wild with it, of course, but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be; shapeshifters are real! What else could they be doing!? But it turns out that didn't really move the needle on how many people are susceptible to that sort of thing. The bigger issue was the extermination campaigns.

Distrust spiked, but people could prove their humanity easily enough-- happily enough, claiming not to be a shapeshifter is indeed evidence that you are not a shapeshifter. That didn't stop them from hating shapeshifters, though. Governments gave in to people who couldn't deal with living in a world where animals looked like people, and started rounding them up. It only lasted a few months before the murders were too many, though; turns out normalizing shooting something that looks like a young boy in the head had some unintended consequences.

People calmed down because they had to, at least the people in the cities did. And you can't stay terrified forever. People in rural areas kept up their "shoots possums on sight" signs, but idk how much I believe them. Looking like a little kid is a *really* good defense.

It's also a good survival mechanism; the shapeshifters could turn into anyone, but they mostly turn into dirty little kids. At some point they learned that if they wander around the gutters looking like dirty kids, people will give them money to buy food. The good news was, turns out there are fewer starving orphans than we thought-- or rather, fewer than we thought were human. I was worried they'd cut funding to orphanages, but in my city the opposite happened; people go out to parks to feed the shapeshifters like they used to feed birds, throwing bread to the scrambling opossum kids. I used to hate that. It's disturbing. But now I think it's kinda cute.

They do still get killed though, and not just by cars. There aren't any laws against hunting opossums, after all; it might have been different if the corpses stayed human, but for some reason everyone's shock disappears when the kid you just shot turns back into a rodent.

Animal rights groups thought they'd be able to turn the shapeshifters into a mascot, like a supercharged version of "you wouldn't eat your dog." You wouldn't eat a kid. They were mostly wrong; there are definitely more vegans now than before, but that isn't saying very much. I guess it's easier for most people to dehumanize than to humanize; I guess it wasn't the shape of the creature that did it.

[us-the-voices-and-more-voices-2]

(I have no energy to describe another one. sorry.)

[IMAGE ID 2: a YouTube comment by thatrandomguywhocares from one day ago that reads.

"to be honest if we didn't make gelatine out of bones/horns/hooves they would go straight in the trash.

and honestly it's kinda wasteful if you didn't, at least with this system we are extracting a whole another type of food from things we wouldn't normally be able to use.

I'd rather it be made into gelatine than not, and this is coming from someone who plans on becoming vegan. (currently can't due to parents being assholes about it)

and has been learning about cooking and foodstuffs since I was little. it has never struck me as cruel to use all parts of an animal, otherwise it's going directly in the trash.

I think the commercial meat and dairy and pet industry is horrid and disgusting. but I still don't believe it's morally wrong nor bad to consume animals.

the ways in which they were raised and the ways they are treated is apparent and despicable. but I don't believe that eating roadkill or cooking using bones and such is a bad thing.

I am against animal suffering but there is many layers and nuances to this whole thing that if we treat every part of everything in this way we are only going to put ourselves in a sad cycle of purging and shame.

at the very least honouring the animals that have died by making gelatine isn't a bad thing. especially if it was roadkill or a friends finished roast.

otherwise it's going in the trash.

idk, food waste sucks." END ID]

if you wanna follow the burner YouTube account you can, but here's Theo's writing.

he's fucking English I want you to know that it in fact DOES make sense that he is (haha I am half English.... my grandparents are literally every English stereotype <3 real.) (obligatory FUCK the empire rq)

this is on literally peta's comment section btw.

honestly Theodore and me share similar beliefs but honestly it's kinda interesting to see him talk about this? I haven't seen him in ages, he's also been around FOREVER and is probably a Geronimo stilton/a teddy bear I have introject lol. reformed into like just some dude in his late 20s, he's weird.

he's literally English I don't know why, he's kinda weird and well spoken and actually takes his time to reply to things and I kinda respect him for that.

but he's ENGLISH AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, hsvafglavshhiofwhie;ogdhv.

either way I don't know here's something you might like.

[eco-friendly-ecology]

My struggles with the label vegan :

I don't eat meat, I don't purchase any animal products brand new in supermarkets and I avoid cosmetic products tested on animals. However I will butcher my own roadkill occasionally, and I will buy secondhand leather and vintage furs, I also buy ethically sourced animal bones/taxidermy/pelts/feathers etc from people I personally know or from people they trust.

I own horses, I ride my horses, I spend most of my time working to pay for my horses. I have spent 2 years building trust with my rescue racehorse who was abused severely once he came off the track, I have done everything at his pace and I listen to him when he says no, he used to be terrified of saddles and bridles due to the previous abuse. With painstakingly slow desensitisation training he can now wear a light saddle and bitless bridle without any signs of fear. He wouldn't let me stroke him when I first got him but now he seeks out affection and is confident/has positive reactions when I ride him (mostly bareback). Including tack I don't weigh more than 15% of his bodyweight, and i don't use spurs or whips (i would be dead if i tried to hold a whip on him). I ride him out on hacks as a form of enrichment and to boost his confidence when dealing with new things, I will school him in both flatwork and jumps on occasion to keep him occupied and to help build up more of his muscles and keep him in shape. Yes, I could lunge him or handwalk him to do the same thing but I can't run as fast as he can, working him on a lungeline will cause him to focus more on one side (the inside) than the other and not use all of his body correctly, and it's near impossible to assess a horses canter when you're the one leading them in a straight line and there's very rarely anyone to help me. Does this mean I'm 'exploiting an animal for my own benefit' ?

It is possible to farm animals with high welfare standards, it is possible to have meat/dairy/fur/wool farms that treat their animals with the kindness they deserve. Sometimes it's not the farmers abusing the animals, sometimes it's the actual slaughterhouses and abattoirs that are cruel and cause unnecessary suffering. I am not against farming/farmers, I am against the industrialisation of agriculture, I'm just not in a position to be able to support the farms I want to because they are more expensive and harder to trace.

I will forever put animal welfare above animal rights. You can't have animal rights that are beneficial for all animals without having a strong foundation of animal welfare legislation that is specialised to each species. (I am aware of the five freedoms but there's too many loopholes in them for me)

I own rescue snakes, geckos and frogs. They need to eat other animals to have a healthy life, so I have a section of my freezer dedicated to frozen rats/mice/quails and I have boxes of live cockroaches/crickets/mealworms.

I would rather kill an animal than force them to go through painful surgeries and treatments that reduce their quality of life.

I don't support most honey brands, because of the impact domestic bees have on wild populations (spreading diseases, purposefully putting hives in ecologically fragile locations such as lowland heathland etc)

Deforestation isn't inherently bad, it depends on the location and the type of forest. Huge man-made monoculture forests should be removed, and yes it will look like a post-apocalypse for a while but you soon see a variety of native plants sprouting (especially in areas where it used to have a dense canopy)

I will never call farmers evil and I will never advocate for the abolishment of all animal farms in the uk. I will advocate for more transparency in slaughterhouses, for easier tracing for the consumer so we know exactly where the animal products came from (not just a red tractor certified farm), for putting the animals welfare first, for paying farmers fairly, for more economic help for farmers to encourage sustainable and ecologically friendly methods (cover crops, woodland pastures, hedges>fences)

It is not beneficial to encourage human-wildlife interactions but understanding human impacts on wildlife is essential. Having foxes and badgers come to your back door isn't cute, it's an accident waiting to happen. Releasing 'rescued' invasive species ,like grey squirrels and mink, doesn't make you a wildlife warrior, it means you're uneducated and don't understand basic ecosystems.

(There's alot more but I needed this off my chest rn, so will be making a part 2)

[gay-trashcan-cat]

Since today is flat fuck friday, I figured what could be better(and flatter) than some roadkill! Today's recipe will be rather short unfortunately, but very delish! First find some roadkill, you can eat it as is straight off the road or you can prepare it any number of ways! Like soups, stews, gentle searing, or dehydrate it for a yummy jerky :>

Refrain from using more harsh cooking methods on the roadkill because the meat would be very tender from the way it was created. Once you're done cooking(or just to eat it raw!!), be sure to smother it with some homemade slug preserve! It's SOO good you guys!!!

everyday going purely vegan sounds better and better. (though I do hear they sell roadkill beef jerky and I would be lying if that didn't catch my interest at least a little)

[tea-with-evan-and-me]

but you do know evan eats meat/dairy, right? he is not a vegan, which is about the only way to truly be cruel free to our animal friends. as cruel as hunting is (and i am anti-hunting unless you are hunting to eat) it's nowhere near as cruel as the life afforded to animals who are going to slaughter.

You are right about that of course. I didn't want to bring it up because i'm vegan myself and didn't want to start a whole vegan - non vegan debate on your blog, which I know can get pretty heated. I guess the difference here is the intention. Obviously animals don't care why they are dead, the fact that they are is cruel in itself, but unnecessary dying and killing is what's even more cruel to me. And I thought that's maybe more of like the general consensus in our society, in terms of how we treat animals. Most people when they consume meat or dairy products don't even actively face the fact that these are dead animals they are consuming because meat has become this product which you can buy in the supermarket, not any different from rice or bananas. Most of us grew up eating meat and our families never told us what the process behind that was and so most people go into adult life being ignorant or even clueless about the whole industry. And a lot of people have trouble eating meat after knowing about the industry. taxidermy on the other hand is a little more... facing the truth? Idk, like you see the moose head for what it is. A dead moose head. There is also no second layer to that like diet, culture or convenience which are one of the primary motivation for meat and dairy consumption imo. Putting up a moose head is just for your entertainment, furr is just for fashion. No one needs to be wearing a furr coat in america or in most european countries, it's unnecessary animal suffering. That's what I'm getting at. I don't judge people that are intrigued by the macabre as you say, I just hope that when people make these choices that they go for already dead and sick animals and not kill new ones. Nothing makes me more sad and angry than when innocent animals (that are already dying for us in the dairy and meat industry).. end up also only dying for basically nothing but reasons of "it's so pretty". I hope we can at least agree on that.

i totally understand what you mean and i agree that animals should not be trophy hunted/killed for sport. or killed for fashion, when we have so many alternatives and it's just not necessary that we wear leather or fur when there's so many economical alternatives.

i think it's very reasonable to say you hope a celebrity you look up to doesn't approve of trophy hunting/killing an animal to be stuffed. to be honest, i don't really think most people give that much thought to how a taxidermied animal got that way, much like many meat-eaters subconsciously block out the fact that the bacon they're eating was once a very cute little pig they would coo over and never personally want to harm. personally, i would want to know any taxidermy i bought was ''ethically sourced'' aka roadkill or an animal that died naturally and was preserved, not killed so i could have it in my living room. i also enjoy going to death museums, seeing human skeletal remains, and post-mortem practices. i've held a real human skull but it doesn't mean.. i like people being killed or take joy in their death even if it was completely natural. it's just a curiosity. hopefully that makes sense lol

[k00319461]

i took out the taxidermy art book from the lsad library. this book explains its history, laws surrounding taxidermy, artists and how to do itself. it was a good book and i have a greater understanding of taxidermy. for my project obviously i do not want to do actual taxidermy so it was interesting to find out about taxidermy artists who do not actually use animal parts and set out to mimic it in a “vegan” way. I like Elizabeth McGrath’s work the most, i feel like it matches in with my other artist that i researched Mark Ryden. I also included an artist in this post who only uses roadkill for her work. there are many laws such as CITES, MBTA, Lacey Act etc.

I want to do taxidermy in my project because i am interested in it firstly aswell as biology and animals themselves. My parents own pelts and skulls, and they prepared and treated a pelt themselves too. i want to further research on taxidermy about its ethics, n the rights and wrongs.