#ppl shipping him with someone who literally killed himself to get away
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I love the Hua Cheng icon saying this
But everything Xue Yang did... I can't take much as a joke. I'm completely in favor of there being characters like that, yes, but I'm not the type to read a story like that and think it's ok to support the character's attitudes, even if it's a joke. It's just how I think, anyway.
#mdzs#tgcf#mxtx#Don't get me wrong I agree#he's a fantastic character and a despicable person#and I am continuously stunned that people continue to favor Xue Yang#when Song Lan actually DESERVES a redemption and actively sought it in the story#whereas XueYang specifically said he thinks he's more important than other people#it's not a coping mechanism or a perspective that can be shifted it is a core part of his personality#ppl shipping him with someone who literally killed himself to get away#and acting like there was ever a chance for a happy ending he never ever could possibly earn#nor WOULD he because he simply powermoves through everything and does not give a fuck about developing compassion over obsession#like as if he could keep his little ruse going forever#if you're going to ship them then commit to it being fucked up#don't play stupid games that the narrative doesn't support#there are so many more meow meow blorbos who are less gleefully and unrepentently malevolently narcissistic and kneejerk violent#xue yang#yi city#i think it's not that funny to be like haha he was right#because to me it is WAY FUNNIER the way he just shrugged off being asked if his evil was situational IN CANON
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ok so like i get where ppl are coming from with the âthe crew loves izzyâ takes but also like. ok. i think that take involves a certain amount of reading very deeply into the text to a degree that is almost reading against the text at some points. itâs like when ppl pour all this energy into an underdeveloped and unportant side characterânone of those layers ppl add to the character are strictly contradicted by the text, but it clearly wasnât what the writer intended for anyone to really focus on. and yeah, death of the author, just bc the writers didnât intend for ppl to think abt something that hard or care about it that much doesnât mean weâre not allowed to do whatever the fuck we want. but bc i love analyzing the shit out of this show i do want to talk about WHY i think the textual support for this headcanon isnât rlly there.
first of all. when archie is like âwhy are we trying so hard to save this guy, heâs kinda a dickâ and jimâs like âyeah but heâs our dick.â rather than elaborate on what makes izzy special to them theyâre like âit used to be that the crew all had each otherâs backs no matter what and things were better back thenâ while reminiscing fondly about 1. olu and 2. that shot from season 1 where the whole crew is hanging out except for izzy whoâs sulking in the background hating everyone. if this was supposed to be an âizzyâs a dick but we love him anywayâ moment i would expect jim to talk about. yknow. izzy. instead to me ot comes across more like an âizzyâs a dick but crew is crew, we stick up for each other even if we donât particularly like each other bc itâs us against the worldâ which isnât as impactful from an izzy stanning perspective but i think makes for, like, an interesting allegory abt the queer community. we all gotta defend the rights of ppl in our community even if those specific ppl are dicks and we donât get along with them.
second of all. after they save izzyâs life and get caught by ed they all leave the room and then a few minutes later a gun goes off. maybe someone saw ed leave the room before the shot was fired, but either way they think either ed just killed izzy or izzy just killed himself. and then they DO NOTHING ABOUT THIS. nobody checks on the body. they put all this effort into saving izzyâs life and then when their efforts are foiled they do not seem that bummed out about it. the next scene with any crew member in it is frenchie talking to ed on deck, and ed is like âgo take the day offâ and frenchie is like âoh nice!â and heâs like, confused and a little concerned about ed suddenly steering the ship rlly erratically, but he also seems pretty excited about getting some time off (after so many raids in a row i would be too lol). and THEN!!! in the next scene where we get the whole crew, theyâre crowded in the hallway that leads out to the deck and the conversation they have isnât âoh my god i canât believe ed killed izzy after we cut off izzyâs legâ itâs âmaybe edâs better now? maybe killing izzy was all it took? he seems pretty cheerful for the first time in ages, maybe edâs okay?â like literally they think ed just killed izzy and they are more worried about edâs emotional state than they are grieving a beloved shipmate
then in 2.04 the crew B plot is so blatantly âthe crew struggles to trust each other again but after seeing izzy be incredibly sad and pathetic they remember that a good crew has each otherâs backs no matter what and so they extend izzy some unearned kindness and make him a new legâ that iâm amazed that other interpretations even exist. like literally theyâre all drawn away from screaming at each other with weapons drawn by izzy making some dramatic announcement and then falling and then drunkenly crawling away and refusing their help rambling âyoure born alone you die aloneâ over and over again or whatever melodramatic bullshit he said. like heâs muttering abt being miserable and alone and thereâs a WHOLE ROOM OF PEOPLE!!! standing RIGHT THERE!!!! like âoh hey man do you need help standing up? no? no ur just gonna crawl away? um. ok.â and then they all go âwell at least weâre not as fucked up as that guy. maybe we should do something nice for him?â like they are literally almost explicitly motivated by pity, not fondness. which yeah, itâs probably fucked up the way they use izzyâs new disability to sort of emphasize how pathetic heâs being, but i think the intention there is not that izzyâs pathetic bc heâs disabled, heâs pathetic bc heâs refusing to accept help. like the crew doesnât go âyikes đŹ at least we donât have his issuesâ abt izzy falling down when his makeshift prosthetic breaks, they go âyikes đŹâ when he bats away their hands and goes on a weird mumbling tirade. definitely not the most sensitive way to depict izzy in this mental state, but thatâs a different post probably. for the sake of THIS post tho: the takeaway i got from this scene is that the crew is remembering how to be there for each other again. itâs easier for them to let go of their paranoia and stop being so defensive and distrustful when izzy is there as an example of what happens when youâre TOO defensive and distrustful. âthe crew makes a leg for izzy bc they care about him on a personal levelâ did not seem to be the focus of that story arc. to me.
in 2.05 we get our first ever instance of a character expressing appreciation for something izzy said or did or some trait he expressed (except for stede that time in 1.06 when izzy backed stede up on wanting to do a fuckery, which he only did specifically bc he wanted stede to fucking die and ed was taking too long), and itâs lucius saying he loves the shark izzy whittled. but during the entire episode leading up to that scene izzy is either in syedeâs storyline where heâs not engaging with the crew or heâs getting snarked at by lucius, and not in a fun teasing way. like during that whole bit where izzy steals his cigarettes and calls him âtwattyâ lucius just looks so fucking annoyed and then uncomfortable. and then at the end of the episode izzy is sort of offering him advice and lucius is just sarcastically like âthat sounds healthy.â and within this storyline, the point of these scenes isnât rlly abt the developing and deepening relationship btwn izzy and lucius, itâs abt lucius individually coping w his trauma. izzy in this episode kinda exists in a weird place in the narrative, where he plays a supporting role in two different charactersâ (luciusâs and stedeâs) storylines without getting a central arc for himself. and both of those two storylines are only really about lucius and stede respectively, izzy is just there as this a static character who imparts wise advice. which is a very weird role for him to take, imo, but on top of that it doesnât rlly contribute any sense of like, actual bonding btwn izzy and the other two.
and in 2.06 they just enjoy the show izzy puts on. they like listening to him sing. itâs all very cute! but also. i would not say that it shows the crew really cares about izzy?? i was in pit orchestra in high school and all the lead theater kids were always fucking assholes but they were also rlly good singers and it was fun to listen to them. i would mouth along to the words being sung by bitches who seemed to be trying to be sharpay evans irl for some bizarre fucking reason. like, cartoonishly mean girls. so like, the crew listening and dancing to izzyâs song doesnât rlly sell âthe crew loves izzyâ to me. if anything, i would say that actually a stronger indicator of the crew loving izzy would be wee john sharing his makeup, and itâs a shame that we donât get to see this happen. i mean that genuinely, i think that wouldâve been a great moment to rlly strengthen izzyâs arc and it just. doesnât exist on screen. and this isnât like the finale where we know for a fact that they had to force a 40-minute episode into 30 minutes, Calypsoâs Birthday has a runtime WELL under 30 minutes. it wouldâve been SO easy to add another like 45 seconds of izzy and wee john getting ready together, but the only moment they show us is izzy walking in and discovering drag for the first time. it feels like the focus of this scene is less about a moment of connection between two characters and more about izzy individually having a gender breakthroughâand that carries on with the rest of the performance, too. bc itâs a performance, itâs everyone looking at izzy, itâs izzy a half step away from the crew as he puts on a show. the narrative framing of all this puts the focus entirely on izzy as a solo act, not on izzy as part of the crew. they like his performance, but we arenât rlly shown evidence of the crew liking him as a person.
and thatâs kinda it for izzy and the crew! up until heâs actively dying in edâs arms and theyâre all in the background silently weeping, at least (and btw, speaking from experience but uhhhh itâs pretty normal to cry when u watch someone die even if u have literally no connection to the person dying). even when theyâre helping him back to the ship, ed is the one who notices heâs injured, nobody notices until heâs already giving izzy support. and i fully believe roach flips off izzyâs grave marker with fondness, but thatâs also like. the only little personal moment any of them aside from ed has during the funeral. they do all laugh at his pinocchio joke earlier in the ep but idk if that one line can carry the entire weight of âthe crew loves izzyâ on its own. apparently thereâs some shots during the zheng v stede fight where izzy can be seen in the background close to jim and archie??? but like, you canât tell me a background shot of izzy standing near some crew members is strong textual support for the crew loving him. and i donât think i need to argue abt any scenes in s1 bc literally every single crew member who was on that boat, ivan and fang included, was about to fucking drown him in the fucking ocean.
there is one single scene that gives actual strong evidence that anyone other than ed likes or cares about izzy. itâs the part at the end of impossible birds when fang is crying after ed shot izzy. so maybe fang specifically loves izzy, even tho izzy used to pull fangâs beard a lot and fang didnât like it bc it hurt. idk.
hereâs the thing tho. in 2.01 the writers use dialogue very effectively to tell us about the kraken era. the crew doesnât say much, but what the do say tells us a lot: we know that archie thinks the kraken era is all normal pirating stuff, jim felt like the wedding raid (which seems like their only raid on a civilian ship and not a military one) was a step too far, frenchie is Not Okay but heâs doing a fantastic job repressing everything, izzy looks tired but the specific thing echoing in his head right before he starts crying in front of the crew is ed telling him âif you canât do the job, someone else will.â
and we know fang, whoâs known ed for decades, has never seen ed like this. and the specific thing he mentions as something heâs never seen from ed before is not batting an eye when ivan died. meaning that even before meeting stede, fang wouldâve expected ed to have some sort of reaction to ivan dying.
and the thing about ivan is that we know next to nothing about him. he has very little dialogue in season one. we donât even know how long heâs been working with edâlong enough to have at least heard about fang having to put his dog down bc âthe love of a pet makes a man weakâ when fang joined edâs ship years ago, even if ivan wasnât actually there yet at the timeâbut we do know that watching ed tell ghost stories was apparently the most open and available heâd ever seen ed get. so it doesnât sound like ivan and ed were especially close. ivan was almost certainly less close to ed than izzy was.
if fang expected to see ed have some sort of reaction to the death of an ordinary crew member (who mightve been working for ed for decades, mightâve been working for him for months, we really canât say) who wasnât even that close to ed, seeing ed casually and unflinchingly inflict a life-threatening gunshot to his first mate mustâve been fucking earth-shattering. and interpretation is also supported by what fang actually says while heâs crying at the end of 2.01âitâs not âi canât stop crying, izzyâs hurtâ or âi canât stop crying, izzyâs going to die.â its âi canât stop crying, ed shot izzy.â more than the imminent demise of a crew member, fang is shaking and sobbing and traumatized because he canât believe ed would do that.
and if that feels like a reach, just remember what happens after the leg is cut off, after the crew most likely believes ed shot izzy again, this time 100% fatally: the whole crew is crowded in the hallway, and fang asks âdo we think heâs⌠better?â
fang is not sad about izzy. or if he is, itâs dwarfed by how much more sad fang is about ed.
in conclusion: have fun with ur headcanons i am not the boss of you but also there is less canonical textual evidence of the crew loving izzy than some of yâall seem to think k byeeeee
#ofmd#our flag means death#ofmd meta#izzy hands#dizzy izzy#israel hands#crew of the revenge#s2e01#s2e02#s2e04#s2e05#s2e06#s2e07#s2e08#txt#meta#mine#og
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https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/727362861289144320/httpswwwtumblrcomdearweirdme7272030984461680?source=share and this is why I keep saying that hybe truly doesn't care about tae's image and wellbeing, it's all about closeting, silencing him and punishment for his boldness, the tn thing is obviously a pr stunt I saw ppl who believed it bc of gh pics doubting it after the Paris walk , like it was so obviously staged and everything following by jn own staff was made to maximize the rumor not to kill it, that's textbook definition of pr ( and yes offense to that anon: you should buy a brain if you think those badly edited pictures are real and that a company and an artist would just simply allow to have their real private lives violated for a year without doing anything at all and if you think any company would allow such a bad roll out for a real relationship, that would only harm their own partners and make ppl not to take them and their relationship seriously, it only makes sense when you look it through the lens of blantly keeping the speculation by not confirming nor denying bc that's what maximizes the attention, literally mediaplay) but Tae has too many ppl that already hated him in a very organized way way before those rumors (jokers created and still fed by the company) and they will always want to think the worst about him to pay attention and apply common sense, and the company knows that and they still didn't care, they didn't care about the negative repercussions he'll have to deal with and they haven't made any strategy to deal with that, they keep feeding jokers bc their priority is protecting jk from his real gay rumors now that he is under scooter wing ( no one takes jikook seriously besides their own shippers and there's nothing to dig up there, it's your typical kpop fs ship with lots of company content ) and also protecting him from pjms and jokers who would turn of him for being more successful than jm by giving them content and showing them as close (they were already doing that and pjms are still furious), jk is the member they have invested the most and his relationship with Tae has always been a risky thing that could make their investments go to hell, I do think there must be something on it for Tae for him to accept too ( I believe a lot of coercion too) but ultimately this serves many purposes and shutting Tae up must be one of the upsides for hybe and they'll keep it like that bc they don't care and have never cared about Tae being hated massively and having his image tarnished, he isn't the priority, their money is.
Hi anon!
I donât really agree about the company protecting Jk more by playing into Jkk. There has not actually been much Jkk-ing this year I think. Jkkrs themselves were in scrambles because they got so little, some even jumping ship because of it. I think there has actually been more real Tkk moments than real Jkk moments since solo era started.
But I do think your mention of Jkkrs is an interesting one, because Jkkrs do play a part in the whole Taennie rumor mill. They keep the rumors going and they emphasize those every chance they get. I wonder if the company took that into account when this pr-stunt was concocted. They ofcourse took into account Tkkrs, and Army as a whole.. but would they have considered Jkkrs? Possibly not. Maybe things did get out of hand a bit and thatâs why Tae seemed to leave ship after Paris so fast.
Companies are all about money, but the money is where the artist is. If Tae does well the company does well. Though Tae gets hate, I think for the most part he is very loved. If they keep the Taennie moments away (by backlisting questions, no linking them, no sightings, maybe some shade by Tae himself) things should settle soon enough. Right now things seem a bit more tense, because there is anticipation. I think weâll get a taste of what itâs going to be like real soon. Jennie wonât be a topic. Maybe sheâll be linked to someone new soon, and than itâs going to be over.
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Drawn to You | Corpse Husband x Fem! Reader
Warning:Â Makeout, This is a lil long (I got carried away)
Word count: 3859
It was a typical night for you. You had your music playing faintly in the background while you were writing notes for your anatomy & physiology class when you felt your phone vibrate violently on your desk, which caused your French bulldog, Royal, to wake up from his snoring slumber on your lap. With an annoyed huff, you pick up your phone and notice your best friend Rae had texted you numerous times.
Rae đ´
Hey!
Among Us!
Now!
Need 10th person!
Pleaseeeeee
You stared at the messages for a minute. You were confused on why she asked you of all people. You were the opposite of the many streaming friends she had who were loud, funny, and all around GOOD at games. Your shy character would not fit well on her stream and you knew that. Plus, the only games youâve played are Stardew Valley and Animal Crossing, which requires no communication with people and you preferred it that way.
You
Why me? Iâm in the middle of writing notes.
Rae đ´
Thereâs this person I want you to meet!
Heâs really nice and youâll warm up to the group in no time, I promise!
I wonât let them be mean to you đ¤đ¤
Theyâre nice ppl anyway so they wont be mean lol
You
Okay.. let me load up my discord
Rae đ´
Yayy!
I already bought among us for you last time I was over so youâre good to go!
âWhat? When did she find the time to buy the game for me? We were literally together the whole time she was here.â You thought, but quickly dismissed it and loaded up discord. Right as you got online, you got an invite from Rae. You quickly grabbed your headset and adjusted your mic before joining the call. You petted Royal in an attempt to calm your nerves as you saw 9 peoples profile pictures appear in front of you. You only recognized Raeâs, of course.
âHey, (Y/N)!â Rae exclaimed, âGuys, this is my best friend (Y/N)! Introduce yourselves!â
âHi, Iâm Toast!â Said the man with the toast icon. You smiled at his profile picture. You found it cute.
âIâm Jack!â Said an Irish voice. You know Jack. You used to watch his videos a lot.
âIâm Poki!â Said a girl with a really sweet voice, âNice to meet you!â You were about to say hello back when someone else chimed in.
âHello, Iâm Felix!â You recognized that Swedish accent. He was the most well known YouTuber, of course.
âNice to meet you!â Said a really soft voice, âIâm Sykkuno!â His voice reminded you of an anime boy. You smiled to yourself.
âHi, Iâm Lily!â Said a really cute and high pitched voice.Â
âHi everyon-â You went to introduce yourself properly until you got cut off.
âIâm Corpse.â Said a deep, attractive voice. Your eyes widened for a second, his voice catching you off guard.
âH-hello,â You attempt to say hello again but this time youâre a little shaken up by Corpseâs voice, but you get it together by petting Royal once again. âIâm (Y/N). Itâs nice to meet you all!â
âYour voice is so adorable!â Says Lily. You smile at the fact that someone whoâs voice is equally as adorable complimented yours.
âThank you!â You respond, âYour voice is adorable too, Oh my God!âÂ
Lily giggles at your compliment. âAlright!â Exclaimed Rae, âReady to play (N/N)?â You quickly realized you forgot to load up Among Us before hand. You were silently kicking yourself for not doing such a simple thing. Now theyâre gonna have to wait longer to play because of you and they already waited long enough for you to join the discord call.
âUm..â You stall as you hurriedly click on the Among Us icon. âIâm so sorry. I forgot to load it up.. but itâs loading right now!â Your eyes are glued to the screen as if itâll make the game boot up faster.Â
âThatâs okay.â Said Corpse in the most kind voice. âIt wonât take that long.â You feel heat rushing to your cheeks just by hearing his voice. Who is this man and why is he making you feel like this?
They all agreed with Corpse and continued chatting about whatever they were chatting about before you joined the call. You were half listening as you were trying to figure out what to do as the game loaded up. Just as you were about to ask Rae, Corpse sent you the game code through a private message. You typed âThank you!â as you quickly entered your name and then the game code.
âWoo! (Y/N)âs here!â Said Rae happily. âChoose your color and your hat!â âWhere do I do that?â You thought to yourself but quickly found it. You wanted to be pink but it wouldnât let you choose it.
âWhy isnât it letting me choose pink?â You asked.Â
âItâs because Corpse is pink.â Explained Lily. âHe took it from me too.â She said with a sad, but funny, tone.
âI can be a different color.â Corpse said and quickly changed his color from pink to white.Â
âOh, Thank you!â You said happily and picked a flower to match it.
âNo problem.â He said and you could hear the smile in his voice. It made butterflies appear in your stomach.
âAre you kidding me?!â Said a laughing Lily. âI literally ARGUED with you about letting me have pink!â
âI sense something happening...â Cooed Rae in a sing songy voice. The whole group then erupted in âOooooâsâ. This made you blush. You covered your face even though they couldnât see you and Corpse chuckled, which only made you blush more.
Before the game started they all explained to you how to play so you wouldnât be lost. This calmed your nerves a bit and when the game started you were happily going around the ship completing your tasks. Watering the plants was your favorite so far since you found it satisfying how the plants grew. You saw Corpse run up to you and you made your character step away a bit because you didnât want to get killed. He instead ran circles around you and you decided to follow him for the rest of the game for safety. You both encountered Rae and Toast by the vending machines but didnât think much of it and waited for Corpse to finish his task. Until Rae killed you and Toast killed Corpse. âA double kill?!â You shouted to yourself, causing Royal to wake up and slowly get off your lap. âIâm sorry buddy..â You said to him as he laid down in his dog bed. You turn your attention back to the screen as someone found you and Corpseâs dead bodies.
âUm, bodies found by the vending machines.â Said Felix who didnât sound all too confident. âJack where were you?â He asked.
âI was in..â As Jack was about to explain himself you heard a âpopâ emit from your headphones and saw a red dot by the messages icon. You clicked it and saw it was a message from Corpse. You completely stopped caring about the arguing going on through your headphones as Jack was trying to claim innocence.
âI like your flower :)â It read. You smiled big and immediately typed back.
Your fingers hovered over the keys thinking about what to type back but you settled on a simple âThank you :Dâ.
After two games or so everyone got tired and decided to head out. You all said your goodbyes and watched as each person slowly began to leave the call. You didnât want to leave until you were sure everybody was gone. Everybody left but Corpse. âHey..â He said, sounding a little shy but it was probably just because he was tired.
âHi!â You said a little too excited. You immediately wished you could reword what you said a little calmer.
âSo, uh..â He began, âCould I possibly get your number? For Among Us games I mean?â He didnât sound too sure of himself but him asking this made you beam with excitement.
âOf course.â You said calmer than before, âBut I donât know what help Iâd be as Iâm terrible at this game.â You giggled.
You typed in chat your number, your fingers shaking slightly. âNah, I liked playing with you.â He said more confident, âYou make it more fun. Even though I havenât ever spoken to you before.â He chuckled. You smiled at his words. Butterflies formed in your stomach hearing him laugh.
You and Corpse chatted a bit more until he decided he should go, but you wished you guys could have kept talking the whole night. You felt this connection with him that you couldnât put into words. It felt so easy for you to talk to him and you didnât feel as nervous around him as the others you met today. There was something so calming about him that washed your fears away. You shook your head from the thoughts and told yourself that you just met him today, you shouldnât get ahead of yourself but it was hard not to.
You were laying in your bed scrolling through twitter when you got a text.
xxx-xxx-xxxx
hey its corpse
is this (Y/N)?
Your heart skipped a beat. You were excited Corpse texted you so fast, hoping you two could continue talking.
You
Thatâs me!
I thought you were going to sleep?
CorpseđĽşđ¤
nah i hardly ever sleep i just left because i didnt want to keep you up
i really enjoyed playing with you
You
I enjoyed playing with you too
We should play together again soon
CorpseđĽşđ¤
definitely
Youâve begun to become really good friends with Corpse over the past week. You and him would facetime each other whenever you could. You always were on facetime with him, actually. Whenever you were studying, you guys were talking. Whenever he was editing, you guys were talking. When you were about to go to bed, you guys were talking.Â
Right now, you guys were facetiming as you were studying for an upcoming exam and he was trying to stay awake. You liked having him around when you were studying even if it was through a phone. You didnât feel pressured to talk or have to worry about an awkward silence with him. It was comfortable silence.
You started to worry that you were keeping him up, though. âYou can go to bed if you want,â You said softly as you looked up from your textbook to the black screen propped up against a few books. â I donât want to keep you up. You need some rest.â
âNo..â He muttered, âI like having you around..â
âI like having you around too Corpsie but we can talk when you wake up.â You told him a little sternly in an effort to convince him to go to bed.
âCan I ask you something?â He asked out of the blue.
You paused before answering and shifted your gaze to the black screen once again. âYeah sure, go ahead.âÂ
âDo you want to maybe stay over here for a bit?â He asked, âWhenever youâre free, I mean. If you donât want to I get that too I just feel so drawn to you I want you closer to me. Is that weird? Iâm sorry if thatâs weird. Actually, forget I said-â
âIâd love to come over.â You told him with a smile. âWhen would you want me to be there?â
âAs soon as possible.â He said in his raspy, tired voice. Butterflies formed in your stomach and you felt your heart skip a beat. This man was something else.
âI can be over there in the morning..â You start, âI just have to pack and everything. Is it okay if I bring Royal? I donât want to leave him with my sister.â You look over to Royal sleeping peacefully on your bed, snoring away.
âHell yeah!â Corpse exclaimed, âI love animals! Bring him over.â You giggled at his excitement.
Corpse ended up falling asleep soon after and you ended the call. As you were getting ready for bed you began to think of what Corpseâs place would be like and what you guys would do. You were definitely going to show him Stardew Valley, that was for sure. You pondered the thought of you finally confessing to him that you wanted to be not just his friend, but girlfriend. Youâve been wanting to do it for awhile now but you get too scared and end up chickening out, so you figured if he liked you like you like him, heâd make the first move. You started to make up scenarios in your head about finally hanging out with Corpse in person as you drifted off to sleep, hearing Royal snoring peacefully in the background.
It was the next morning and as soon as you woke up you changed into your favorite outfit and began to pack. You didnât know how long you were staying for but you decided to pack about 2 weeks worth of clothes just to be on the safe side. Royal was sitting on the floor watching you as you hurried from your closet to the suitcase on your bed. You were happily humming as you were excited about the day. You heard your phone buzz and you quickly grabbed it from your bed as you saw the name pop up on the screen.
CorpseđĽşđ¤
hey :)Â
heres the address:
You
Thanks! and hello đ
You two texted until you were ready to go. You were definitely NOT looking forward to driving two and a half hours from LA to San Diego but you were so excited to see Corpse that the dread of the long car ride washed away.
You put Royal into his harness and plopped him in the back seat. He looked at you confused since he rarely ever gets to go for rides in the car. âWeâre going to see a friend!â You tell him while petting his head. He then laid down and began to close his eyes.
After what seemed like forever you were finally outside Corpseâs apartment. You grabbed Royal and attached his leash to his harness and then proceeded to grab your giant (and heavy) suitcase out of the trunk. You struggled getting the suitcase up the apartment building stairs but you managed. You felt a sense of relief that his apartment building had an elevator so you didnât have to deal with more stairs. The ones at the entrance were enough. While you were waiting for the elevator to take you to his floor you took this opportunity to text him.
You
On my way up!
Almost immediately after you sent it he read it. He started typing but the three dots quickly disappeared. Before you could question it the elevator doors opened to his floor. âCome on, Bud!â You said to Royal and motioned for him to go ahead. Royal got up from his sitting stance and lead the way. After passing 2 other doors, you were at Corpseâs. You knocked two times.
You heard shuffling on the other side and the door knob turning shortly after. Before you knew it, Corpse was in front of you. His eyes were looking at yours. You immediately smiled. âHi.â Corpse said with a slight smile as well.
âHi..â You said shyly. You didnât know how to react now that he was in front of you and not behind a screen. He stepped aside and motioned for you to come inside. You entered his apartment and set your suitcase by the couch. Royal was pawing at Corpseâs leg, begging for pets.
âAww, hi buddy!â Corpse said excitedly. âHeâs so well behaved.â Corpse was talking to you now.
âYeah, it took work though.â You laughed slightly. âYour place is really nice.â You said as you looked around. You noticed all of his mirrors were covered up, but you decided not to ask him about that. He probably had his reasons.
âThank you.â Corpse said as he looked at you. âYou look pretty.â
You blushed and turned your head away from him so he couldnât see your pink cheeks. âThank you.â
Corpse cleared his throat, âSo uh, I donât have a guest bedroom so Iâll take the couch for however long you want to stay.â
You quickly shot your head at him. âNo no no Iâm not letting you sleep on the couch in your own apartment.â You argued with him.
âWell, Iâm not letting you sleep on the couch.â Corpse stated.
âThen weâll share your bed.â You said with a shrug and headed towards his room to set your suitcase down, Royal following closely behind you. You didnât see anything wrong with it. You and Rae share one whenever you guys sleep over at each otherâs house and you thought this was no different
âO-okay.â He responded and quickly followed after you, âSo, this is my room.â he said as you and him both entered.
âI like it!â You exclaimed as you looked around. You liked how dark it was in there. You smiled at him and he smiled back at you. That smile.. You thought and quickly fumbled with your suitcase as you set it down by his closet. Corpse came closer to you.
âCan I give you a hug?â Corpse said a little shyly, as if Iâd say no.
âOf course!â You said and wrapped your arms around his neck. He was taken aback but quickly put his hands around your waist. You caught a whiff of his mild cologne which made you want to stay in the hug a little longer. You didnât want to be weird though and pulled away from the embrace.
âIâm really happy youâre here.â He said as he looked into your eyes. I could kiss him right now, oh my God. Your mind raced, but you managed to get out some words.
âI am, too.â You said.
Itâs only been about a day since youâve been over at Corpseâs. Sharing the bed seems to be no big deal as he barely seems to sleep. You so far liked being there with him.
Right now, you were on the phone with an overly excited Rae.
âYouâre at his HOUSE?!â She yelled excitedly in your ear. Your face cringed a little bit from the yelling.
âYeah,â You told her, âHe has a really nice place.â You said as you scanned his living room.
âI knew you guys would hit it off!â Rae said, âI should be a matchmaker or something.â You blushed at her comment.
âNothingâs happened yet.â You said quietly, not wanting Corpse to hear you.
âGirl, youâre at his house.â Rae said in a obvious tone. You rolled your eyes.
âThis could just mean he likes having me over as a FRIEND.â You told her. You were hoping that wasnât the case though and Corpse did have feelings for you. You smiled at the thought.
âYou are so oblivious.â Rae said with a sigh, âAnyway, I gotta go workout. Love ya! Hope everything goes well!â She said the last part in her sing songy voice.
âLove you too!â You said back and ended the call. What do I do now? You thought. Corpse was streaming so you couldnât hangout with him right now and your physics class isnât till a few hours. You were hungry, though, and decided to cook some lunch for you and Corpse. Itâll be a nice surprise for him. You smiled at the thought.
You made your delicious Dorito taco salad that you love so much. You made a bowl for Corpse as well and took it to his room where he resided. He didnât seem to be streaming anymore and was just scrolling through Twitter on his computer.
âI come with food!â You say as you place the bowl down in front of him. You seem to have startled him as he jumped slightly when you spoke. He examined the bowl suspiciously.
âWhat is this?â He says cautiously of your creation.
âItâs Dorito taco salad.â You explain, âIt has crushed up Doritos, of course, shredded chicken, lettuce, olives, and sour cream in it.â He seemed to be skeptical of it, which was a given every time you made it for someone new, but people ended up loving it when they tasted it. You were confused as to how many people found it weird since your mom made it for you when you were a kid a ton, so you were used to the delicious lunch dish.
âOkay.â He said and took a bite of it. His eyes lit up. âOh my god, this is so good!â He exclaimed and took another bite. You giggled with excitement that he loved it like you did.
You both ate together and laid down on the bed as you talked about random things that were going on in your lives. You guys were laughing at a joke Corpse said until Corpse got serious.
âI have to tell you something.â Corpse said and looked into your eyes.
âOkay,â You said confused, âGo ahead.â
He took a deep breath. âI like you.â He confessed, âLike, romantically. I have for awhile now actually and I donât know what it is about you and I thought I was done with love but you make me feel so happy and different from anyone else Iâve talked to. You donât have to feel the same way but I couldnât keep my feelings in for any longer.â
You paused for a moment. Is this actually happening? Are you in a dream? âI like you too, Corpse.â You say softly. His eyes beam with excitement..
âReally?â He asks.
You laugh at his bewilderment. âYes, really!â
He tackles you in a hug on the bed. You giggle from his excitement. Heâs on top of you and he lifts his head up from your neck to look you in the eyes. You get a rush of emotions as you see the care and love in his eyes as heâs looking at you.
You blurt out what you were thinking in that exact moment. âKiss me.â
He leans in and kisses you softly. One hand is holding him up on the bed as the other is cupping your cheek. You take one hand and tangle it in his hair. This causes him to deepen the kiss with you. The kiss turns rough. Youâre both so in the moment you donât want to come up for air but you guys manage to keep going by taking in air when your lips part for brief moments. The hand that was cupping your cheek is now next to your head, taking the responsibility of holding him up. The other hand is trailing up and down your thigh, squeezing your thigh tightly ever so often. You eventually break the heated kiss and look up at him. You were hoping he could see the love you had for him in your eyes.
âI liked that.â You say smiling.
He chuckled at your words. âI like it too.â
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AND ANOTHER THING. i was on twitter and was happy to see someone drew phoenix punching miles for faking his death i was like wow the composition the coloring hte angle and the subject matter is fucking amazing. the tenseness of emotions and the explosion of an action he'd regret in the future maybe. but then i go into the replies and op was like "they kiss right after" and i was like can you kill yourself. oh my god narumitsu shippers poison any sense of bitterness these two characters can have towards eachother. they are grown men they are GROWN MEN THEY CAN BE ANGRY AND BITTER. AND ANOTHER THANG! why the fuck cant no one make phoenix be pissed off. he is not a dog. he is not a ball of sunshine. its better if you dont make him brooding and angsting bc then that's just edge for the sake of edge but for fucks sake why cant he be angry for the sake of fucking being angry at someone. why cant he be angry at edgeworth without ppl backtracking ands aying they get married. sure whatever they get married congrats NEITHER OF THEM HAVE COMMUNICATION SKILLS IN YOUR FLUFF AU!!!!!! AND CANT UNPACK THEIR ISSUES THAT WOULD MAKE NON-FANFIC GAY MEN MAD WITH EACHOTHER!!!! fuck this stupid. AND ANOTHER THANG. sometimes the comics ppl make for them are funny but it's like oh my god how is this a shipping comic and if yall believe wright is so stupid to make jokes at edgeworth's expense abt his trauma then turn around and say aww how cute wright is being silly edgeworth will not be bitter abt this nope nope nuh uh then oh my lord GOOD LORD GOLLY GRACIOUS OOOOOOOOOHHHH I HATE ACE ATTORNEY HOW I HATE IT!!!!!
I SAW THAT I FUCKING SAW THAT HELP MEEEEEE!!!! phoenix and edgeworth have such a complex relationship unlike anything i've ever seen in a fictional medium like they're estranged childhood friends who tink they owe each other a lot yet know next to nothing about each other. this isn't some "let men be friends" bullshit i promise miles edgeworth fucked shi-long lang and dick gumshoe and will powers and whoever else but literally edgeworth and phoenix NEVER open up to each other for real. the amount of times gumshoe and maya got pissed at phoenix in turnabout goodbyes because he was treating edgeworth like shit but edgeworth was also being a little pisslord himself so it's whatever.
i do think shipping brainrot is real and if i can replay turnabout reminiscence on the regular without being an absolute freak and recognise the powerful themes and motifs in aai2 surrounding family, legacy, bonds, and truth without making it about edgeworth making out with lang and gumshoe and will powers, i THINK u losers can all manage to get through the pwaa school trial flashback scene without your sole takeaway being that those middle schoolers are going to kiss.
also idk if it's just me being gay and being around my gay dad my whole life and working in a gay town but literally no gay men that aren't years divorced act like that. i thinkt hem being divorced is really funny though same with phoenix and kristoph mister wright is a chad single dad who's keeping his really cool weirdo daughter away from all the really uncool weirdos out there.
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pedro boys + spending habits
word count: fuck if i know, wrote it thru the app
characters: din, marcus m, dave, pero, marcus p, oberyn, max, frankie, whiskey, maxwell, javier, ezra
a/n: idk what caused this to happen but it works i guess. hope they make sense
â¨support my ko-fiâ¨
trust him with your money, your drink, your social security number, everything:
din. this man is barely scraping by on his own when you first meet him. when he adds the kid to the mix, he gets even more frugal than he already is with an old as sin ship that many people are surprised to see fly. he will have a policy of âyou earn it, you choose what to do with itâ and since he goes after most of (if not all) the bounties to keep you all alive, he has the final say in how most of the credits are spent. he does want you to have nice things though, so he makes sure to configure the budget to where you donât have to pour your credits into the groupâs survival money very often. itâs the least he can do. heâs very big on taking care of his people and will show that in small ways.
marcus m. heâs a single dad for a significant amount of time, he has no choice but to be responsible with his money. he has to take care of missy, keep them both fed and housed and healthy, and thatâs not even touching on how expensive all of high school graduation and college will be once she gets there. he teaches missy very early in life how important money is bc he doesnât want her to ever know how it feels to not have enough. he makes a considerable amount of money w the heroics tho so he can afford to responsibly splurge on you both, but not constantly. is very cautious abt the splurging becoming a habit
dave. yeah he may be a murderer, but heâs scary great at managing his money (to continue being able to murder). heâs got his ex wifeâs alimony (that still pisses him off but thatâs another story) and two girls he takes care of, thereâs no other choice for him either. thereâs never a worry about dave having a midlife crisis and spending money on some stupid dad thing (like a motorcycle or assless chaps or a country club membership) because he murders to keep his mind off that sort of stuff. files his taxes diligently every year the day tax season starts and will pass this wisdom to the girls.
pero. heâs very good at judging if you need something or not. if it canât feed you, keep you healthy, kill someone, or protect you, you donât need to buy it. definitely not a man who indulges in trinkets and frivolous things that do nothing but weigh down his horse and his person. will encourage this way of thinking with whoever travels with him to whatever extent he can, but wonât be a dick about it if you have something sentimental on your person. if itâs a necessity, he will splurge on a bed and bath at an inn but not much else for a while. cheap because he has to be
marcus p. i donât think i have to explain this one so i wonât. no iâm not being lazy who said that?
maybe youâll be fine if heâs in charge. maybe:
oberyn. being a prince (and himself), there are different ways this could go. he spends his money frivolously at brothels & on his daughters + other loved ones (as well as other luxuries) and doesnât really seem to be the type to keep tabs on it all as he goes. but... heâs a prince in a prosperous kingdom and so there isnât really a worry for money. heâs known as the red viper for many reasons, including his clever nature and the ease with which he can get what he wants thru whatever means necessary. if you want for something that he canât buy, you know he will find a way to get it for you (which can be a problem sometimes).
max. heâs good with money in the sense of perpetuating capitalism â thatâs the red flag here. hell, heâs gonna be investing into bitcoin and who knows what stock market bs & bc itâs max, of course you trust him. max canât control the stock market tho, so sometimes things are a little iffy. it always evens itself out though, and you make sure in the future that he invests his money instead of your joint money. heâs still gonna share anyways, it just helps you have a little more peace of mind.
frankie. he just wants to take care of you, okay? you canât fault him for that 𼺠he maneuvers his budget around to make sure he can do all these nice things for you while leaving his own needs unchecked, which isnât okay. he just wants to provide for the ppl he loves the best he can, but the problem begins when he starts to think he isnât doing enough. his insecurity & lack of self-worth (fueled by his guilt for ânot being everything you deserveâ) is what makes him agree to the Tripâ˘ď¸ in the first place. once he comes back & sees you frantic, only wanting him home and not giving a flying fuck about the money, does he realize that youâre devoted to him and not what he can do for you.
whiskey. working for statesman made him forget what things really cost bc he suddenly never had to worry again about not having enough money. being with someone that isnât practically made of money will snap him back into reality. he looks at his bank statements and his balance occasionally, but our big spender cowboy hasnât really counted money as something he worries about for a while. when he constantly showers you in expensive gifts (only the best for his baby, thatâs his motto) and you tell him that he has to not do that bc heâll go broke, he plays it off because he doesnât remember having to worry. separate bank accounts are only because you want to make sure your money is being spent smartly (even though jack has offered constantly to pay for literally anything you need).
donât give him anything you want to see again:
maxwell. as much as i love this dork, heâs absolute shit with money. when his business is falling apart (bc he made the stupid ass decision to buy the oil rigs no one wanted bc they werenât producing oil), he throws it all into saving face and trying to make investors buy into something that isnât there. what a smart business man wouldâve done was liquidate his assets and possibly try to get into a business that will yield at least some profit. he does learn his lesson tho and eventually can be trusted with money, but even he is hesitant to do anything with the household finances. heâs a dreamer, and dreams and money are the same as oil and water.
javier. i know youâre possibly surprised but hear me out. heâll go all in to get info, whether heâs spending american taxpayer money or his own money or anyone elseâs, if itâs valuable info that can be bought, itâs gonna be bought even if he goes without groceries for the next two weeks. before being with you, it was booze and prostitutes and cigarettes that ate away at his checks outside of buying information. the only thing that really changed once you got together was the prostitutes and slightly less cigarettes and booze. however, when he goes back to laredo permanently, heâs perfectly capable of keeping his shit in line. heâll balance every checkbook in sight and run a tight af ship.
ezra. this man is a scavenger by necessity, a con man by choice. he has a silver tongue and a roguish charm and pretty questionable morals; heâs not gonna have any issue with getting his hands dirty. heâs probably gonna use your joint money to try and pull a fast one on some unsuspecting stranger (âitâll double our money,â he says, âitâll be fine,â he says), but then said stranger will end up turning the tables and leave you both absolutely broke. yeah he will feel guilty, no doubt. the only problem is that he wonât take it as a âhey donât do it againâ lesson, itâll be a âthis is how i can improve for next time.â eventually you have to put your foot down and take control of the money and when he realizes that youâre improving your lives much better than he is, he will thank you for it.
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In your opinion which housamo ship is best described by they can make each other worse
prerequisite disclaimer that my take on their relationship (specifically during the time in which they knew eachother while the wisemen were screening the summons app) doesn't reflect canon but i literally have to mention toji and shuichi here. i will spare you the particulars since i imagine you wanted smth reflective of canon but 100% i think they literally did make eachother worse. like i think toji's regressive values and his obstinate commitment to his black-and-white morality and shuichi's detached, pragmatic amorality were something they respectively doubled down on after clashing with the other the way they did
more reflective of canon though: shuichi and shiro, hands down. like, borderline (haha) canonically. admittedly the 'making the other worse' thing would be pretty one-sided, so prerequisite disclaimer that i have 0 tolerance for any sort of 'predatory brown person ~corrupts~ innocent fair-skinned person' shit, do not try to apply that framing here. i'd love to be able to take it for granted people won't be insanely racist for no reason but :|.
anyways, shiro and shuichi's relationship is really interesting to me. it has quite a bit of depth to it and i think alot about the different directions it could go across different timelines, and there's some MAJOR 'make him worse' potential there, which is funny because shiro seems to be one of very few people outside of duo that shuichi actively doesn't want to come to harm (not that he'd register making shiro worse in the particular way he could as⌠making him worse). what it comes down to is that shuichi and shiro are incredibly similar, and in particular that they share alot of their negative traits: first and foremost, there's the deep-seated sense of alienation that underpins their characters. i think it goes without saying a sense of alienation pervades literally every aspect of shuichi's life, but in case i need to back that up in shiro's case: despite presumably being fairly well liked now it's implied he went through a p long period of isolation (in fact, iirc at some point in krampusâ event he says that ppl used to actively alienate him) and his love of reading is p much explicitly stated to be at least partially an escapist thing stemming from this; in chapter 2, one of the main things he expresses while like rapidly spiraling and gradually coming under yog sothoth's influence and generally in complete hysterics is that he feels he doesn't belong anywhere. this is expressed alongside fear of the d-evils (who he is at this point flat-out terrified of) and a horrified denial of the fact (âfactâ) that he accidentally brutally killed someone. it's probably a large part of why they're so strongly attached to eachother in the first place.
shelving that for the moment, in the main loop, even after becoming disillusioned with shuichi for his amorality(/generally being deeply insane) to the point of deliberately positioning himself in opposition to shuichi's worldview, after chapter 3 shiro is literally so much like shuichi it's wild. suspicion/skepticism had been a noteworthy aspect of his character from the beginning (he very quickly goes from staring dumbstruck at the protag to pointing out the way theyre looking around is, not odd but suspicious, which is honestly kinda an odd conclusion to come to), but after chapter 3 he is way more distrustful of those outside the summoners, sometimes quietly, sometimes rather bluntly so, sometimes almost to the point of callousness. and under the right circumstances you catch glimpses at a capacity for downright ruthless pragmatism: you remember when he suggested that everyone leave a little girl to get captured and quite possibly shot to ensure they could get away safely? and was insistent on doing that? jesus fucking christ dude, way to be suspicious and distrustful of others and willing to allow others to come to harm to ensure the safety of the small pool of people you do trust due to your deep-seated feelings of alienation and having been betrayed by someone you trusted! now who does that remind me of�
i think its important that you can see shuichi in shiro in that scene with alice especially, where- despite his undeniable strong moral core- ultimately the difference between him intervening and him letting another come to harm for his benefit is the presence of someone who is the literal physical embodiment of a Hard No outright refusing take the second option, because it highlights that what most set him apart from shuichi is that he has a support system, people he could rely on and who would tell him âdude what the fuck weâre not letting a little kid get shotâ when he needed to hear that (and realizing that is probably why shiro is one of the main people to extend that to shuichi come chapter nine). which in turn raises the question of what it would look like if he didn't.
basically shuichi and shiro's relationship has a lot of potential as a making him worse sort of deal that's especially interesting because there's no ill-intent there at all! the foundation of their relationship is a genuine mutual respect and admiration, and a strong affinity to eachother! but they understand the worst parts of eachother too, and shuichi can rationalize them far too well because he was raised in a lab by eugenicists and legitimately thinks being Like That is good and cool. so (in a circumstance where shuichi doesn't scare him off by being an insane little freak) in the absence or even just diminished presence of that positive influence- if he doesn't literally immediately befriend the protag- you can really easily see shuichi fostering shiro's worst qualities, which could get really fucking ugly considering even without anyone enabling him to be a cold-blooded chessmaster weirdo, under the right conditions he would let a little kid get shot. and it goes without saying that- ESPECIALLY in a circumstance where nothing challenges shuichi's relationship to people other than duo/his own emotions- you can see this ending poorly for shiro in particular, bc as much as he genuinely does like shiro, unless something changes at the end of the day shuichi's not going to hesitate to toss him head-first into a woodchipper for duo's sake. he might regret it, but he wouldn't hesitate.
#error.ans#error.txt#shuichiposting#-_- i don't have a tag for shiro#long post#i hope this is coherent lol#shuichi LITERALLY looks at shiro and is like 'hey come be a chessmaster weirdo with me' and shiro is like 'no thank you' and proceeds to be#obsessed with him. their relationship is so fucking FUNNY but also genuinely really interesting outside of that#OOPS SORRY I SHOULD PUT A READMORE HERE SOMEWHERE TEE HEE#Study-Buddies Of The Third Kind
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Different anon⌠Here is the thing though, Drogo/Dany isnât a parallel to sansan. People who make that comparison either lack severe reading comprehension, which is not surprising for this fandom, or they want to use it to validate sansan. (Tyrion was the older guy Sansa was forced to marry. Dany and Sansa have opposite journeys and their marriages are a part of that.) But sansanâs mirror is Jorah/Dany. Book!Jorah is an older guy who has a creepy obsession with a teenage girl. He dumps his trauma on her, he projects onto her. But he is also her advisor, her confidante early on, his protector. There are also the same BaTB elements sansans love to talk about. She even refers to him as her bear. But he was lusting after her ever since they met and then he assaulted her. He forced himself on her. She is uncomfortable with his actions, but she doesnât possess the necessary language and she doesnât understand consent (we know this because of how she frames her relationship with Drogo but also how she expected Lhazareen women to be ok, even be thankful for being married to their rapists, and her dubcon relationship with Irri) so she recontextualize what happened and chastise Jorah for kissing her not because she is a teenager and he shouldn't and she didnât consent to but because she is his Queen. That's the language she has, so she expresses her discontent, disapproval, rejection with that. Sandor was verbally, psychologically, physically abusive to Sansa but he also occasionally protected her in Kingâs Landing. He lusted after her, made sexually inappropriate comments to an 11 year old child but he was also the only one in KL to have honest conversations with her. Then he assaulted her, held her at knife point. She was afraid of him kissing her, killing her, she had nightmare about the assault which she clearly registered as a sexual one despite what his fans claim his intentions were. Sansa has a habit of romanticizing/redefining these things. Sansa thinks Arys Oakheart was preferable, that he was kind because he beat her less hard than the other Kingsguard. She remembers Tyrion as someone who were kind to her, someone better than Joffrey even though he molested her and she had him in her nightmares too. She separates Littlefinger and Petyr in her mind because just like with the other men before him the thought of her sometimes-protector at the same time being her abuser is too much for her. Just like Dany she recontextualizes what the Hound did to her and turns the assault into a song to cope with it.
These two pairings has the same dynamic, the difference is fandomâs response to it. (The slight differences are that Dany had actual amiable feelings for Jorah -not romantic love or sexual feelings but friendly, sisterly love for him- and she as a Queen had a lot more agency than Sansa as a prisoner had. She isn't as powerless as Sansa, she could have easily banished him, punished him, even ordered his death.) But no one in fandom writes essay after essay why and how could and should Jorah and Dany end up together. Itâs an outrageous suggestion. Dany is a main character, she is the heroine. She is a Queen. Why should she ever end up with someone as lowly as Jorah? Someone as old, as ugly as Jorah? But Sansa, meh she is not an important character. And she needs to be punished, first because she was a child making childish mistakes. Secondly, she is shallow, she refused to be raped by her older, ugly husband. So she needs to end up with an older ugly guy to humble her. Even when the author expressed his distaste of the trope of a noble girl running away with a lowly guy in medieval stories, nah that doesnât matter here. Sansa being of high nobility, a princess wonât have any factor at all who sheâs gonna end up with. They had to keep assuring themselves that she is not a main character so she could even end up with a villainous character, that she is not a Stark so she could end up with people who hurt/fight against her family. The hypocrisy of this fandom, and their selective reading is most clear when it comes to these two âcouplesâ. Almost all sansans (whether it is the actual shippers or those who think itâll happen because well itâs Sansa what else sheâs gonna do besides being a reward bride for some hideous guy) hate Jorah/Dany (as they should) while trying to justify how and why Sansa should end up with the hound. Let's forget the abuse and pedophile, let's assume those never happened, even then it makes no sense. There is not a narratively satisfying way, a logical reason how Sansa could be with Sandor. But they ignore all that because it doesn't fit in with their vision, with their interpretation of the books and characters. Because admitting Sansa is a main character and more than a reward for their pedo fave has a ripple affect, it challenges all their theories, they all crumble. And they just can't let go of their 2 decades old theories, they just have to be right, they must be right. That's why they all took the show's ending as a personal offense, especially the QiTN Sansa. I just can't wait for the books!
Yeah, agreed. jorah and sandor are mirrors of each other. I mean I hope they both die without any glory or honor, personally. I don't really care if they have sacrificial deaths for the greater good - or whatever framing the show had intended - jorah and sandor were also whitewashed and made more pitiable/likeable.
Whenever dany x dr*go is used to validate literally ANY pairing, I am suspish. In particular when we acknowledge that dany absolutely couldn't consent - she was 13 iirc - and was sold off by her abusive brother to a man twice her age, but Sansa reimagining her trauma about Sandor's assault to something less traumatic is considered being hateful to Sandor because he's unattractive. (And I never really listen whenever ppl give me shit or deny it was assault; pertaining to my job, I'm pretty fucking aware what assault or intention-to-assault looks like, and I think most ppl do to, they just seem to lose awareness when it comes to their ships or certain characters).
I think it has to do with Sansa being the archetypal "Pretty Popular Girl" - the one who like feminine things, sort of fussy, likes feminine colors and just in general is feminine. She seems to remind people of the classic mean popular girl we saw popularized in 1990s-2000s high school movies - the one who gets her comeuppance in the end when the non-feminine girl somehow triumphs in whatever way, or she's the one who learns her lesson and stops being quite so feminine, or hooks up with a most-popular guy. The Mean/Pretty Popular girl has to be humbled in some fashion. Fans who don't like her, tend to view this as a way for her to pay for the error of her ways.
Like being a prisoner of war. Or not wanting to fuck tyrion. Or not wanting to run away with sandor.
I mean...all of asoiaf, beyond the politics and magic, is all about trauma and the human response to it - which is varied and depends on circumstances, personalities, and a lot of other things. One of the more vile things GOT did was whitewash jorah and tyrion the way they did imo. Jorah was a predator, circling Dany, regardless of whether she thought of him fondly, he just happened to not be violent towards her - she cries when he forces a kiss on her. Tyrion was a predator who molested her when he acknowledged she was a child "but he wanted her anyway". I've seen a lot of ppl react more sympathetically towards Dany. I haven't seen much recrimination against dany for refusing him the way we see sansa being hated for not wanting tyrion or sandor, hell, even petyr.
But - Sansa, imo, in the larger or at least circles of the fandom that have been around longer, is a more ideal whipping girl for the outlet a lot of ppl crave. See again the popular girl trope. She can't fight, she has no magical creatures, she is not a Chosen One of any kind. She has her wits and her ability to observe and adapt who has no choice but to navigate survival surrounded by people who have more agency and power than she does. That's it. I guess in a world of amazing abilities and magic and warfare, this is very boring, particularly when she doesn't weaponize her femininity or sexuality, where she's beautiful without being dangerous or magical or erotic. And I guess ppl feel that because of that, she needs to be punished for not being as extraordinary as she should be, OR, because she was the "Mean Popular Girl" (she wasn't) she must be humbled, and the ones to do it are the ones she refuses.
It's really delicious knowing they don't get "to have her" đ¤˘. Hopefully they just both fuck off to the ends of the world or die, idc they deserve zero thought.
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man i saw this and i was gonna write a whole post abt how maybe the problem for these ppl isnât that ed wasnât punished enough (even tho thatâs what they say) maybe itâs that itâs a poorly-executed redemption arc but they donât know how to verbalize that.
and that would actually make sense bc ed doesnât have a redemption arc in s2. bc the show does not think ed needs redeeming. even at his worst and most harmful to the people around him the show is deeply sympathetic towards him and gives us sooooo much screentime dedicated to showing us that everything ed does he only does bc heâs hurting. which doesnât excuse any of what he does but it does shift the narrative framing away from an actual redemption arc, where a character needs to like, learn why the things they did were bad and try to make amends. but ed never needed to learn anything, he knew his actions were unacceptable and thatâs why he did them. he was trying to be the most horrific monster he could be in hopes that someone would get sick of him and kill him.
so then i went looking for an old post i wrote abt redemption arcs to talk abt why edâs s2 arc probably reads like a poorly-written redemption arc for ppl who are expecting an actual redemption arc and. i change my mind actually. because âis this character willing to accept that their behavior is harmful, to make amends for their past behavior if at all possible, and to try and become a better person?â yeah we see ed do all of that tho.
Accept Their Behavior Is Harmful: i mean aside from the fact that ed knew this the whole time, we also see ed talking to fang about how guilty he feels for how he treated the crew. but like this isnât zuko slowly unlearning an entire lifetime of fire nation propaganda, ed doesnât need a season(s)-long arc abt this. He Already Knows
Make Amends For Their Past Behavior: like literally the whole thing with getting pushed off the ship!! wearing a sack and a collar at the crewâs behest!! heâs very much trying to make amends!!!!!
Try To Become A Better Person: thereâs a lot i could talk abt here but just on a surface level, heâs trying to quit his job where he attacks and steals from random innocent ppl for a living. like objectively that job does not make you a good person. and also that job makes him miserable and when his mental health is in the shitter sometimes he hurts other ppl in his efforts to hurt himself so like!!! he is very much trying to not be the kind of person who forces crew members to fight to the death anymore!!!!
so yeah, thinking this was abt a âpoorly-written redemption arcâ was giving these ppl too much benefit of the doubt lol they just want to see ed grovel and suffer for an entire season, which was never going to happen lmao. the show thought izzy had more to apologize for than ed and thatâs why edâs apology was one sentence and izzyâs apology was a whole speech on his deathbed. the show thought izzy needed more punishment for his actions than ed did and thatâs we see izzy get put through the physical ringer in the beginning of s2 and ed getting beat to death by the crew happens off-screen. ppl can argue all they want abt how ed did so much worse than izzy but at the end of the day the show disagrees with those takes and thatâs why it treats these characters the way it does. die mad about it.
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â âFriendâ is a four letter word
Characters: Kuroo Tetsurou / gn! reader
requested by anon, prompt 1
wc & genre: 2k - mostly fluff, a bit angst by the end
a/n: the title is literally a 1 trait danger song title, pls dont come @ me, i just thought it was nice to use bc âloveâ is a four letter word so yea,, also pls dont ship ppl irl or ask them too many Qs abt their relationshio even if they look so good together n should date bc it is rlly rlly annoying (speaking from experience)
The first you meet Kuroo Tetsurou, you donât even notice.
Itâs not surprising, heâs quiet and doesnât gather attention. You donât go looking around and keeping an eye on everyone either. The most is youâre just two fish in the vast sea, unaware of one another, too tangled with your own lives.
Then comes a moment, nothing special, almost out-of-a-movie type. It begins with a joke, if it can be considered that. Itâs bad, awfully bad, a horrible pun in the middle of chemistry and from the volume of the voice you can tell they hoped no one would hear. But you do, so does few who sit next to him and your giggles dance around in the air. You donât notice itâs him at that time but you grow to recognize his jokes in the following time.
Kuroo Tetsurou feels like a mystery when your eyes lie on him one afternoon. Heâs not bad looking, a part of a sports team, a key member even. And yet compared to all the other jocks he doesnât bask in the attention, in fact, he doesnât receive any. Others like to brag and talk smug, as if theyâve discovered life in an inhabitable area and then thereâs him. You canât even tell he plays in the team if itâs not for the uniform and tracksuit heâs in after classes.
You think to yourself, if only jocks were like him. Still, you take no step and neither does he.
Maybe neither of you need to because the universe is more than happy to provide the nudge you both seem to need.
Funny enough itâs a science project that starts it.
Heâs too quiet to your liking, speaking only when absolutely necessary. As you desperately try to kill the silence that hangs in the air, he avoids it as hard, making so little sound.
An idea comes as fast the lights are on and you speak before you even get to think âwhatâs there to lose?â
âNo science puns for me? What happened, cat got your tongue?â
To say he is baffled, is the understatement of the year. Youâre not sure if heâs surprised youâve heard him joke or want to hear more of them; but either way, he looks cute, with his guard down, at a loss of reaction, mouth slightly open and â is that a hint of blush on his cheeks?
It only goes upwards from then on.
Awkward conversations is how it begins, seeking each other out in close environments is where youâre leaded.
You find yourself enjoying the way he talks, listening to what he has to say, the way his face brightens up when he starts talking out of pure interest. You only hope he feels the same way about you, and from the way he often discreetly directs you to take the lead and pick the topic, he does.
In a short span of time, you two are attached from the hip. Inseparable, always doing something, going somewhere, discussing a thing or just laughing. Shy smiles replaced with a Cheshire-like grin, almost ironic considering your schoolâs name, thatâs only a new expression on him that you like to see.
It feels freeing, natural; as the sea sighs, the rain drops hit the surface and the sun shines. Two peas in a pod, thick as thieves, inseparableâŚ
This goes beyond high school and throughout university too, which youâre grateful for. Because times come when you wonder where would you be without him, what would you do without his support; so you thank the stars once again, for having him in your life even today.
Then comes the times you wish you didnât spend as much time together because the people around are being insufferable. All you want is to hang out with your best friend but half that time is stolen away by the never changing questions. Those who keep asking if youâre together, as an item. As if it doesnât rub the salt in the already existing wound, it sure makes things unbearable. Getting approached by people you never saw before is no fun, neither is dealing with those who have the audacity to think you owe an explanation about your love life.
âBut why? The two of you spend all the time together! Sure you must be in love!â
As if platonic relationships do not exist, surely do you have to love someone in that way to care for them? Loving Tetsu is a case that matters to only you, youâre happy knowing he cares for you, maybe not in the way as you but at the end of the day, the bond is there in plain sight, on your sleeve.
âBut you guys would look so good together! Have you given dating a try? Iâm sure itâd work out! I understand if you want to keep things a secret but come on, you must have had something going on-â
Stop, stop, stopâŚ
It gets exhausting after a while, showing its signs on you, the irritation high and your nerves are at the edge, he notices it not long after.
After a little persuasion, you spill it all out, ranting about the pent up anger you had bottled all week âmonth maybe. You donât notice the way his shoulders slump as you talk and go on about the stupidity of the people. It misses your attention how he talks less than usual that day, even after the mini ranting session. You do, however, notice how he starts to act strange around you. More preserved, and not as chatty as much. Holding his touch and avoiding contact, not going out of his way to approach you any longer. This drives you crazy, hurts a part of you and you worry âwhat if he has grown bored of me? Did I do something to hurt his feelings? Does he like someone and avoids me to get in their eye? What has happened, what did I do wrong? And goes and goes and goes the worries and the dynamics shift in your friendship.
So with the change of dynamics, you try desperately to hold onto what you once shared. Soon enough itâs you who invites the other to outings.
When your coffee offers are denied, you bring up walks, after that study dates, as he tries to ignore one attempt of alone time, you come up with another and one evening you find yourself asking to go to a party.
Campus parties with him, are interesting, to say the least. It stings when youâre separated, a punch to the stomach when heâs awfully close to those who were flirting with him, a new kind of torture when he keeps his talks with you short at the scene but at the end of the day you always leave, together, and you settle with this too, as you settled with all his love you could get years ago.
Some nights with booze apparent in the air, you donât bug him with questions but each party gets worse somehow, only makes the distance between the two harder.
One night you snap and let it all out, unlike that afternoon it wasnât an asked question but an aftereffect of him pushing your nerves and once you begin, you donât stop, letting the storm out and he just looks at you.
You stop and his gaze stays, face devoid of any emotion and you worry, all the words youâve said dawning on you and with one last attempt you whisper âArenât we friends?â
Voice calm and stern, colder than that icy cocktail you had: Weâre not just friends and you fucking know it.
Holding back the tears by the corner of your eyes, you blink once and turn your back, steps set on your way. You canât recall the last time youâve walked home alone, without him.
Some time passes, days begin to blur and you try not to dwell on things too much or think about him that much. But the brain is a traitor as much as your heart and you find yourself thinking about him too much to your liking. Not sure whether you want him to find you, you keep an eye out; maybe plan to get out of the eye sight when you spot that messy hair but thereâs not much need as heâs never around.
At the same time youâre unaware that this is his way of giving you a break, providing the alone time you needed away from him; as Tetsu tries his best to gather his thoughts and shape the sentences to show how he truly feels, what he actually thinks, he keeps an eye out for you. Even the smallest of smiles on you making his racing heart worse but what lands the final blow is how rarely you smile these days. Knowing he is the reason behind, knowing he causes the weight on your shoulders and the ache in his heart, he wishes more than anything to change this as soon as he can but he is at a loss of words and actions and he hates himself for that.
When the two of you are brought together once again, as fate pushes you from behind like it did years ago, youâre not sure who looks up first. But it is Tetsu who speaks first, not giving you a chance to say anything back, call him names or yell him insults. And as he talks, eyes focused on you, locked into yours, his gaze warmer than ever, his voice nothing like that disastrous night.
âI know I fucked up and ruined the best thing Iâve ever had in my life. I have nothing to blame but myself, I know, but please. Even though itâs selfish of me to ask this⌠Would you give me a second chance?â
Letting go of the breath you were holding, you prepare to answer him. He doesnât let you.
âOne last chance⌠To start over? Because that one sentence, as cold as it sounded, had a truth to it. And I- I just canât do it anymore. I canât go on and pretend like I donât have- like I donât have all these feelings in me. I canât nod along to your rants about how much you hate the people perceiving the two of us as more than friends. âCause you got to admit. They have a point. Maybe at the beginning, yes... But weâve not been friends, not for a long while. And you know it too whether you want to say it or not.â
As if spoken without breathing once, considering this is Tetsu that was definitely the case ,he gulps and takes a step forward.
âWill you give me a last chance and let me show you how much I can love you? Free of this âjust friendsâ title. Would you let me take you on dates and make you laugh wide and loud? Not just as your friend but as your boyfriend? As your partner in crime and in life, as Persephone is the pastel queen of hell in the realm of Hades, the sun to my Icarus, the Sodium to my Chlorine?..â
His speech was getting to you until the last sentence, your softened body goes stone cold, hands hanging in the air, Tetsuâs last pleads of âwould you let me?âs falling deaf to your ears.
The gears turn quick and he realizes exactly which one of his words could leave an effect like this, be so ridiculous and bring you to a halt.
One of those smug smiles you saw on his face often, he says âWhat happened, cat got your tongue?â
And your mouse hanging open, all you can do is smack him on the arm, as hard as you can, for that awful salt simile and for using your words on you.
Before you know it, both of you are laughing and the air feels warm once again.
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@uberoll-oystercrackers putting this PT convo on blast just for the sake of switching to this format where u donât have to break everything up via replies because [comically deep inhale]
honestly like idc idc i guess ppl are just like âuhh mythoâs got nothing going on b/c he has no feelings!!â like Yeah Correct, thatâs a premise / inciting factor for this series and everything everyoneâs doing lol, itâs only Boring if you donât think about the character at all lmfao which i guess some ppl donât, but like, thereâs only 4 of them.....itâs Wildly Interesting that he literally has no feelings at first, like, for one thing itâs cool how thereâs always the Idea of characters who donât have emotions or act on them, but this is like the rare ârealisticâ situation where having no feelings means he needs someone to steer him around and make choices for him (and how Vulnerable that leaves him lmfao like episode 2 is wild but also that ppl just havenât really realized that they Could just pick mytho up and pitch him into a wall, and fakir and rue are sort of careful neutral alliance keeping tabs on him) and you know, the whole s1 structure of mytho regaining both Capacity For / Experience of An Emotion and his sense of identity and by extent of all this his agency, and how like, Thematic everything surrounding this character is thatâs reflected in the overall series like. trying to control someone for your own benefit vs being willing to sacrifice your own interests (and then some...) for their freedom & the Protecting Someone (And/Or Wanting To) As A Love Language that all the characters show for each other at various points & hope vs despair.......and like No Shit heâs dispassionate & passive b/c he canât Feel Feelings & resultantly canât make decisions or feel motivations but obviously heâs still Motivating other characters to act on his behalf, & thereâs so much mystery & drama already in âyeah this guy you think is just a neat handsome guy is also an actual prince from a story whoâs Real & sacrificed his heart in the fight with an evil giant raven monster that eats people & so he canât feel anything or remember who he isâ like damn!!! epic of him even if right now he canât do much of anything on his own. iâm interested, and then iâm Interested every time in the Drama & Mystery of this person regaining parts of himself and completely rediscovering An Emotional Experience and how that is totally recontextualizing his entire existence for him.....
plus also even though âperson literally lost heart via magic and doesnât know what Feeling Things isâ isnât a Weâve All Been There situation i was like oh and you know itâs not like what mythoâs got going on isnât potentially Relatable....can get into a side essay about dapressione and trauma and other types of stuff that can make it seem like someone canât/shouldnât have full access to their feelings / self / agency &/or itâs Dangerous if they try.....whew
but continuing on YEAH ugh just completely fascinated with mytho the Entire Time actually lol like, iâve tended to lose steam in early s2 b/c heâs sort of Less involved beyond the [hehe time to cause some trouble in this particular ep] role lol but even so itâs like well itâs kinda fun when at least somebodyâs being a bitch who lives for drama lmfaooooo & we get mytho Struggling Internally & sometimes punching through that way but again itâs like yeah oops the guy was basically autonomous but zwoop hereâs a problem where that doesnât mean shit anymore lol b/c heâs got this alternate evil self steering the ship all the time now lol got em.....the Peak of that i guess is where we get to have an epic swordfight between raven!mytho and fakir like you know what fuck yes!!! the intrinsic drama of that lmfao!!!! and then itâs like âoh no :/ loving the drama? thatâs just what drosselmeyer wantsâ except Not b/c actually what makes it totally rule is that itâs this chance for Real Mytho to come through for the sake of protecting fakir (tbt âi wonder what i think of you, fakirâ...) and really like that being what prompts fakirâs âyou know what, even though before i was afraid my role as a knight would kill Me and iâm afraid my coincidental(?) role as a guy who can Reality Write could kill Anyone Else, i gotta try b/c thatâs the only thing i could possibly do here and i want to try protecting everyone else b/c everyone else including mytho is protecting Meâ and like augh everyone is so Thoughtful about how to try to help mytho out even as like, they canât hardly interact with him or undo the situation lol.....as youâre getting into the series finale and everyoneâs just outright Voicing things and you get âi/we want to protect mythoâ like 32x and itâs beautiful each time ;___; like and well sorry but him & his heart/lack of are also the heart of the whole story here.....
and you know what *i* want to protect mytho, sympathizing with all the characters like fuck yes youâre so right, this guy rules, episode 6 aka The Fear Episode is SO good, like, youâve gotten kinda used to the episodic format here, ep 5 did sure also make it obvious that things are Building on whatâs happening prior here & that thereâs stakes and stuff but itâs such a shakeup, like, that maybe just kinda sneakily dipping in and out of the arena giving back a piece of his heart until itâs done with, no problem, Isnât Gonna Happen, and again, the Drama of it all......that the heart shards are yeah kind of their own People who are these fractions of mythoâs self and the way you interact with them is gonna like, affect things, since tutu didnât like âresolveâ things with that heart shard and just kinda got him on a technicality there lmfao so itâs like, yeah not only does mytho have a more general / abstract cause to be afraid of tutu & her bringing all these Unknowns & completely new things to him / changing things up and apparently introducing conflict, but youâve gone and gotten his capacity for fear all recently riled up and specifically afraid of his interaction with You from 5 sec ago, and how could anyone know this mysterious magical being giving you Negative Feelings is like, Safe......and iâm sure itâs all compounding here, like, itâs Wild to be suddenly experiencing A Feeling for the (seeming) first time, and that in itself sure could be Scary, he just hasnât had the proper emotion available with with to Be Afraid, now heâs gotten back a freshly stoked (capacity for) Fear and how off the shits it must be to be afraid for the first time anyways, or to be feeling the other stuff for the first time, and who knows what Unfun Feelings could come next, thereâs a lot to freak out about.......and not like itâs trying That hard to never suggest like oh fakir's not that bad even though heâs technically an antagonist at the start b/c of being at odds with / against the protagonist, itâs pretty telling there lol like heâs unhappy with mytho having feelings again at all and has already been getting mad about it but is just being Helpful here and trying to comfort him, like aw thatâs neat i think itâs nice, and again throwing it back to âI Wonder What I Think Of You, Fakirâ you get fakir reassuring mytho that nobody but him is around, and mytho having this capacity for Fear is choosing to confide in fakir re: what heâs dealing with here (not that this would on itâs own be some guarantee that mythoâs Right to be unafraid of fakir, but, knowing all we eventually know...) like again lol itâs funny that drosselmeyerâs loving the Drama of mytho only having regained Negative Feelings like, i mean iâm soaking it in as well but itâs like, that guyâs all about Angst and itâs like no im here all about the Hurt/Comfort more like, thank you lmfao
itâs also SO good how itâs like, the next episode is turning around & giving the story a way forward not by like, oh letâs just counteract this Fear mythoâs struggling with by returning the....emotion of Courage i guess, but rather by giving him back Curiosity to ultimately lead to him actually seeking a conversation with tutu.......and itâs like AUGH itâs soooo fun that he goes to that river and has a conversation with his own heart shard lmfao like thatâs you!!! and that You does not realize youâre them!!! thatâs wild and i love it......wait i took low res screenshots when i rewatched this a few weeks ago lmfao
i Love it lmfao like itâs Such a good choice to have him not only have lost his Emotions but also memories / knowledge of who he, himself, even is.....like yeah man it was all on you to fight this heart eating raven monster!!!!!!!!! which you know, itâs also Fun that earlier in that episode when he and fakir are hanging out in the secret Problems Mill (which....fakir is hilarious like that lmfao. whole other tangent here like ppl are not only rolling with Animals As People but stuff like âyeah fakir might just be like âoops gotta go!â and whisk mytho away to various out of the way Locationsâ like lmfao these teens have some free rein, but itâs nothing compared to s2 where itâs like âThey Were Roommates but ig fakir tried to kill mytho whoâs now being really dramatic and weird which is v different from before and maybe heâs in love with that one random dude whoâs around now, which sucks for everyone else, oops now heâs just like Vanishing for god knows how long at a time itâs fine!!!!â lmfao like god. ballet school just is like that sometimes...) anyways Yeah that mythoâs been having nightmares about the raven and fakir is just going like ITâS FINE JUST DONâT THINK ABOUT IT lol and knowing fakir is also being pretty driven / restricted by fear, reasonably, as he thinks (well. and is correct) that heâs The Knight and his fate is literally written as âyeah if the story gets going and youâre a part of it youâll just be killedâ like yeah, oof......Wonder What I Think Of You Fakir like yeah AND he is that knight you actually did know who was suddenly killed trying to protect you and heâs sorta accepted that role again except heâs not really a fan of that Being Killed thing so here weâre having some issues in his misguided approach here re: Mytho Should Not Get His Heart Back, but heâs also trying to protect them Both from the story, and heâs only So Willing to act Against mytho, like, well hey thanks for apologizing after you hit him and then like, not doing that anymore lol, v reasonable how heâs struggling here lol where heâs trying to Protect mytho but the story a) wants to invite tragedy and b) has already said that The Knight has been / will be killed and canât actually protect the prince within the story, also c) heâs just like one random high school guy out here......and also that it must just be kinda hard to adapt to this changing situation where mytho Is regaining this sense of self and motivation, but for like the past decade or whatever he Has needed fakir to just be in charge and tell him what to do all the time and, if he had the sense of what it was to trust someone, trust fakir to just always be acting in his best interest, but then mythoâs idea of his own best interest a) starts to Exist and b) is at odds w/fakirâs b/c also c) he doesnât have All his feelings yet, Or all his memories, while fakir is like ânoooo i know the storyâ.....like there was never any need to just like tell him he sucks at random times lol but itâs also kind of funny thatâs just part of fakirâs shtick, calling mytho a dumbass one more time when heâs just fully himself as The Prince again lmfaooo. but prior to that, surely fakir could wonder what mytho thinks of him (or potentially Could think of him) too.......itâs just soooo good when mytho is like, expressing things verbally while trying to work through / figure out Feelings and even ones that he doesnât have back yet, and itâs always fun how that inevitably throws off whatever character heâs musing about this to......including whenever ahiruâs just like âoh fuck yes he can do this b/c he has more feelings back now, that rulesâ and/or âaw :( heâs struggling w/this b/c he only has Some of his heart backâ
and also that reminds me itâs SO good when the characters just kinda get to Do Something together lmfao like. ahiru and rue hanging out when looking for mytho that one time, iconic stuff, mytho and ahiru hanging out in the previous episode, iconic, maybe it kills me that in the first ep of s2 you have mytho saying ahiruâs his friend and the only person he feels like he can tell anything (and ahiru feeling bad she hasnât Told Him Everything lol) and then he basically never gets to interact with her again knowing and as himself like Scream itâs fine ;v; !!!!!! let these people spend more than 3 seconds together Interacting lmfao itâs soooo good when they do :â0
and THEN you get into how thereâs all this stuff re: The Story, like, fakir is the reincarnated knight, ahiru is the duck given tutuâs abilities Via a piece of mythoâs heart, but we had the original knight and tutu in the story as these actual ppl who we only hear a Little bit of lore about, but mytho actually knew / knows, and like, the original genesis for tutu only being on 1 Page of the story and apparently drosselmeyer doesnât even really put any thought into what her motivations could be lol like yeah idk whatever she wants to marry the prince or whatever so thatâs why she loves him and Says It and disappears......and like we have almost No direct info about her but uh nbd at least some of her actual essence is actually now an intrinsic part of mythoâs actual heart and specifically embedded in the heart shard of Hope, like damn!!!! you Know there was something more Real and Complex going on there and i love it so much.......and the original Knight, lohengrin.....might have been doomed to be unable to protect mytho with his sword, but thereâs other ways to protect that guy and Someone needed to be doing it.......iâm just like wow mythoâs gf and bf!!!! and they both sort of died but hey. thereâs still a lot to think about
so yeah lmfao love that you can originally see this series like, a decade ago and here it is like damn still lying down / yelling / generally riled up about mytho and just having So Much to think about / appreciate from this series like. itâs so Singular and has so much going on.......cherish it and iâm just still anytime like [epcot vine voice] Mytho...........
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Cloud had every opportunity to validate his relationship between he and Tifa. He doesnât tell aerith who he gave the flower to and when aerith asks if tifa is his girlfriend heâs quick to say no and when she says âsheâs something special, right?â And he says âitâs not like thatâ that doesnât sound like someone whoâs in love... yet when Tifa questions the relationship he has with aerith, he canât even answer... As a cloti fan I donât think I can shobghis anymore... đ
Ok, letâs breakdown how Cloudâs behaviour works again.Â
Not that some people understand that having mental illness and crafting a false persona to protect their own psyche means they do things that are contradictory to their own true feelings at times. They seem to think SOLDIER Cloud is another way of saying âHeâS jUsT zAcKâ. Which isnât that at all and they need to stop purposely misunderstanding the point.
SPOILERS FOR CLOUDâS ENTIRE BACKSTORY.Â
Cloud: introverted, socially awkward, no father figure, low self-esteem, lives in a very small town with little culture and few kids his age. Of those kids, the majority donât like him because theyâre assholes (yeah I said it).
Tifa: childhood friend and crush, who isnât an asshole to him because sheâs a literal fucking sweetheart (donât even try and @ me). Shy, reserved, polite, kind, also can be reckless af.
Age 8, Tifaâs mother dies and she gets it into her head that she can go visit her at the top of mt Nibel because thatâs where she gets the impression the lifestream touches the planet.
Cloud (9), follows her and her friends up the mountain and stays with her as they chicken out. He and Tifa have an accident, which results in Tifa being unconscious for 7 days. During that time sheâs unconscious (but yknow some ppl say she shouldâve still cleared up the misunderstanding WHILE UNCONSCIOUS, despite never learning of it even after she woke up), her friends throw Cloud under the bus to her father as the reason why she went there. Tifaâs father puts all the blame for it on him (douchebag move, but heâs an upset parent whoâs just lost his wife and now doesnât know if his daughter will live or die. Iâm not excusing him, but heâs got reasons other than âletâs victimise Cloudâ.) Tifaâs father tells Cloud that if he isnât capable of protecting her then he should keep his distance.
Cloud resolves to become stronger and thanks to Stamp propaganda and Sephiroth hero worship he decides to become a SOLDIER.
Tifa never says anything about this being what she wants. She likes Cloud just as he is.
Skip forward a few years and Cloudâs 14, has kept his word not to hang out with Tifa, not that it stops her wanting his attention.
The promise scene occurs, where Cloud tries to get Tifa to admit she likes him and Tifa gets Cloud to promise to return to town just once so she can see him again (because these idiots have no idea they mutually like each other in a romantic sense).
Skip forward another 2 years.
Cloud (16) isnât a SOLDIER, but heâs got to go to Nibelheim with Zack and Sephiroth. He hides from Tifa, ashamed that he isnât the man he promised heâd become.
Tifa (15) whoâs massively disappointed Cloud wasnât with them, ends up seriously injured by Sephiroth after he loses his marbles.Â
Cloud appears and saves her, killing Sephiroth.Â
Zangan takes Tifa away from Nibelheim - and good thing too or sheâd have ended up a test subject with the others.
Cloud and Zack are stuffed in chambers to be experimented on.
4 years go by and Zack saves Cloud whoâs suffering mako poisoning. They make it to Midgar, which takes around a year, where Zack then dies, leaving his sword to Cloud.Â
Cloud still suffering from mako poisoning and now also with PTSD and all his other previous issues, shambles into Midgar where Tifa finds him.
Hereâs the bit people like to misunderstand.
Cloud is infected with Jenova cells, which warp his perception and make him susceptible to Sephirothâs control. (This is proven by a moment at the end of the game where Cloudâs hand twitches in response to Sephiroth asking for his help)
Zack told Cloud a lot of stories, both before he was poisoned and after. These combined with Jenovaâs mind warping, the mako poisoning itself and Cloudâs own severe trauma allowed him to craft a false persona for himself, which he needed to protect his real psyche from a further mental breakdown.
Cloud is a mentally ill protagonist.
Cloud uses the SOLDIER persona heâs crafted as a shield to function in daily life. Heâs unaware of what heâs done. He believes SOLDIER!Cloud is the only psyche. We get to see real!Cloud on screen at the beginning of Chapter 8 asking SOLDIER!Cloud if heâs ok. Real!Cloud specifically refers to the childhood event on mt Nibel with Tifa where he âgot away with scraped kneesâ. SOLDIER!Cloud doesnât know what heâs talking about because itâs a real!Cloud memory and not one heâs privy to. Any time SOLDIER!Cloud tries reconnecting to his true self he ends up in pain. Heâs not ready to be whole yet.
Behind the shield is an emotionally stunted, very ill man who spent four years as a lab rat, suffered countless traumas, witnessed his home burned and saw the girl he loved stabbed. The real Cloud is a weak, flawed human being who isnât in a good enough head space to function, let alone do all the things thatâs needed of him during events in the game.
Cloud doesnât think heâs Zack. The only time that argument can even be used is in a 23 year old game that has clear script problems all over the place. That information is outdated and been debunked several times over.
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Now, onto the points you raised.
Cloud cannot connect his real persona and the feelings he has for Tifa with this false persona he has. The SOLDIER persona acts as both a shield and a wall preventing things from affecting the real!Cloud behind it. Nothing gets in or out. Thatâs why Cloud canât articulate his feelings for Tifa. Itâs not because he doesnât feel anything for her, itâs because he canât connect to those feelings until after heâs reunited the fractured parts of his psyche -- which only happens because of Tifa during the lifestream sequence. Itâs then heâs able to get back in touch with those feelings and express them. Itâs not because they donât exist. He never, at any point, in 7R says he doesnât have feelings for Tifa. He says sheâs not his girlfriend - fact, she isnât. He says in response to Aerith asking âsheâs someone specialâ that âitâs not like thatâ but then gets cut off, like every other point in the game where heâs about to try and explain his feelings. He doesnât know how he feels because those feelings belong to real!Cloud and not SOLDIER!Cloud. We get a clear view of how Real!Cloud feels about Tifa during the plate fall. At several points, the urge to comfort Tifa is seen. Thatâs not SOLDIER!Cloudâs urge, itâs real!Cloudâs. When he sees her crying during Jessieâs cut scene, when he sees her on her knees at the top of the plate, when his hand twitches as Barret hugs her. All of these are canon non-optional moments that build a picture of real!Cloud wanting to express his feelings to Tifa, but not being able to. The resolution is the culmination of those feelings. He takes his time hugging her back because the SOLDIER persona is trying to protect him still, but the real!Cloud breaks through long enough to hug her. And he does so hard because he needs comfort. Heâs gone through so much that heâs broken inside. Thatâs why he hugs her until it hurts. Because he hurts.Â
His response to Tifaâs question about Aerith isn't shipping. Tifaâs first words when she wakes are an urgent affirmation to get home and save the slum. Cloud agrees. She then asks Cloud how he knows Aerith, after expressing concern she'll get hurt by going with them. Tifa and Cloud are eco terrorists and as far as she knows Aerith is a normal girl. Nobody would want a civilian dragged into danger. And Cloud has been in Midgar for four days and spent most of them with Avalanche and Tifa. She's curious how they're friends because she knows Cloud isn't a people person. Cloud explains Aerith saved him, but when? It's clearer in the JP because the phrasing is that Cloud was in the kind of danger that worries Tifa. She wants to know what kind of danger Cloud would get into that he couldn't handle. Well he's not talking physical danger. He's talking about how Aerith helped him save Tifa. Because that's the kind of dork he is. He's referring to the phrase Aerith said to Sam about making sure Cloud wouldn't have to live without Tifa. That's what he means by her saving his life. Because he can't live without Tifa. So, it's obvious why that's not made a bigger deal of in disc one.
He doesnât tell Aerith who he gave the flower to because itâs none of her goddamn business. Sheâs a stranger being nosy. Heâs got no obligation to tell her what he did with it. If someone you met twice start sticking their nose in your personal business youâd be cagey too. Thatâs a meaningless moment that certain people cling to because theyâre idiots.
Sorry, this got long. Hope it clears a few things up though. I probably missed a few details here and there.
TLDR: Cloud has mental illness and isnât capable of love due to a fractured psyche, so canât answer anyone when they ask.
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Phoenix Prince /// Dragon Princess AU
Aka a healthy (ish) fire siblings au (thats still super angsty im so sorry) where Zuko and Azula love/take care of eachother and earn the love of their people
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Ursa dies in child birth, though thankfully Azula survives. Zukoâs only three at the time but heâs devastated by the loss of his mother, and vows to protect his baby sister at all costs
Heâs super super involved with Azula growing up, and does everything in his power to protect her from Ozai. Bc when sheâs little Ozaiâs very bitter bc she âkilledâ Ursa, plus he already hated zuko for being too weak, plus thereâs no Ursa to challenge him. so he can basically do whatever tf he wants to them and be an abusive fucking dick
But then, Azula starts fire bending and is clearly a prodigy. Ozai suddenly takes an interest in her. Sheâs terrified of her dad so she does w/e tf he wants to keep him happy.
Except she refuses to hurt zuko. heâs her big brother and she loves him. She (secretly) stays really close with him, though is skilled enough at manipulation that Ozai thinks sheâs basically cut herself off from zuko/hate him. Which zuko is fine with, he wants Azula to be safe from Ozai and if that means she needs to pretend to hate him when their dad is in the room? He doesnât care, he knows his baby sister and knows she loves him
Anyway yeah Ozai starts to like her better and treats her.... âbetterâ. (Note the quotations.) but she still feels guilty that Zukoâs getting the brunt of ozaiâs wrath, so she does her best to keep Ozaiâs attention on how good she is instead of how much of a failure zuko is.
Quick side note: if Azula seems ooc thatâs on purpose. We know her toxcicity is a result of Ozaiâs influence. But here he has way less control over her. Bc Ozai mainly controls her by using fear. And while she is afraid of him, sheâs not nearly as afraid in this AU. a) bc Azula has her over protective big brother being over protective and b) Ursaâs dead so thereâs no mother who is supposed to protect her failing to protect her and making Azula feel unsafe
So in this sheâs much closer personality wise to like a âseason 1 zukoâ version of herself. Sheâs in general cool but tends to loose control of herself. Though she also has a lot more self confidence than zuko did, and maybe a bit too much pride. Sheâd never hit someone who was already down and cares for ppl, but pretends that she cares for no one
So yeah. The two are just kinda surviving living in the castle and love eacother a lot
Until they hear about the whole kill ur first born thing....... (which happens about 2 yrs after cannon bc Iroh came home when he heard his sister in law died and the whole siege of ba sing se was postponed)
Instead of like. Waiting for her brother to get murdered tiny 9 yr old Azula packs up their shit and gets ready to go on the run
Unfortunately sheâs (almost) too late. While sheâs getting ready to leave Zuko is trying to cover for her (Ozai would be murderus if he knew Azula was gonna betrey him by leaving) and somehow manages to insult Ozai while trying to protect Azula from being found out
Ozai gets big mad, and in a fit of rage tries to kill zuko by burning half his face off.
Azula runs in at the sound of her brotherâs screams, at the exact same time two gaurd rush into the royal chambers. The guards are frozen in shock, but Azula is pissed
Azula attacks her dad. At first she has the upper hand/element of surprise but... sheâs 9.
she starts loosing. Her forearm gets really badly burned in a suspiciously hand-shaped pattern.
During the fight Zukoâs struggling to lift himself from the ground and help. He manages to save Azula from a killing blow by throwing some fire at Ozai, but collapses immediately after. Azula barely has a second to breathe before Ozai starts attacking again.
For a moment it legitimately looks like Ozai is going to murder his two young children in cold blood
Until one of the guards snaps.
She uses the whole fucked up situation to knock Ozai out, though she doesnât kill him. The other gaurd is just standing there, and she has no clue who heâs gonna help so she just knocks him out
Then the gaurd grabs zuko and Azula, and fucking BOOKS IT from the castle. She does a blue spirit type thing to escape (threatening to kill either Azula or zuko) and eventually gets them somewhere safe where she can get their wounds treated
The next day the fire lord puts out this whole sob story about how an assassin pretended to be a gaurd, killed his father, then kiddnapped his children. And how heâs sending out a whole manhunt for his lost children yada yada yada
The other gaurd that was there mysteriously disappears a few days later, but not before he can spread some ârumorsâ about the prince and princessâs disappearance. Ozai ascends to the throne and publicly offers an enormous reward for the return of his children,,,,,, while secretly sending assassins after them. (Like.... Azula attacked him and he already tried to kill zuko he donât give a fuck)
Iroh is obviously devestated when he finds out. and while he thinks the whole thing is a bit suspicious he starts on a journey desperately looking for his lost niece and nephew
While all this BS is happening this poor gaurd suddenly has 2 damaged af kids to take care of and a bunch of assassins to run from
So once zuko and Azula are healed enough to travel and they know zuko wonât die, they go on the run. They canât stay in one place bc of all the assassins after them and end up going all over the world
They donât spend a lot of time in the fire nation (for obvious reasons) but they do spend bits and pieces there. Connecting with their people, meeting freinds of the gaurd who saved them that can help (like Lt Jee who ran Zukoâs ship in cannon) and spreading the truth of what happened.
Stories about the damaged prince and princess who were so hurt by their father begin to spread. But even more stories about how the prince and princess care for their people spread ten times faster. Stories they take time to rebuild small fire nation villages damaged by floods, or how corrupt military commanders suspicious disappear after they come to town start to spread.
Ppl start calling them the dragon princess and pheonix prince. Because the princess protects her people like a dragon protects itâs hoard, by killing everyone who dares to endanger it. And the prince has risin from the ashes (you can see the burn clear as day on his face), to heal the land and his people
(Though really..... the prince and princess are both dragons and pheonixes. Because even if she seems invincible and more ruthless than her brother, the princess has been hurt deeply. Though her wound is more easily covered. And she aches for the pain of her nation, the nation she feels she wasnât strong enough to protect. She just hides her emotions better than her brother....)
(As for the prince, yes he shows more kindness than his sister seems too. But he is just as ruthless as her if someone threatens their hoard. Heâs just a bit calmer.... less trigger happy than his twin. It was his idea to take out the corrupt commandor stealing a small townâs livelihoods, after all)
They call the gaurd who saved them âthe Kitsuneâ. They say she is a flame wielding spirit, sent by Agni himself to protect the true leaders of the fire nation
Iroh overhears bits and pieces about them. He starts to get an idea of whatâs happening, but for the most part he really struggles to track them. Ppl can recognize him, and they wonât sell out their prince and princess to someone who might take them away
So yeah. The three of them are on the run together for a long time. They can never spend long in one place (assassins never stop coming after them) and dart all over the earth kingdom and fire nation, seeing first hand the effects of the war. And gaining a positive reputation both for caring about their people in a way no one since before Sozin has, as well as shaming dishonorable fire nation soldiers who mistreat those in the earth kingdom
(They almost never hurt foot soldiers who are just following orders, but any one (especially upper command) who take clear pleasure in otherâs suffering are often challenged to Agni kaiâs in exchange for said soldiers leaving.
Though usually just being publicly knocked on their asses by a couple of scarred kids who turn out to literally be the lost prince and princess holy shit, is enough to put them in their place)
So yeah. They travel together earning a good reputation from as soon as theyâre healed until zuko and azula are 14 and 11 respectively
At that point they get separated from the gaurd.... (she doesnât die, either captured or separated for some other reason)
So now.... all they have is eachother
The two spend the next two years on their own. They still try to do the same types of stuff they did before but now theyâre in a lot more danger w/o an adult to help them. Theyâre basically just.... 2 increasingly ferel children struggling to survive. They live mostly off of like foraged stuff and whatever money they can make/steal from rich assholes
They continue to dodge Iroh as well bc they have no clue if heâs gonna return them to their father or kill them or w/e. Which is wayyyy harder than it would seem, the only reason he hasnât caught them yet is that they have an alliance with June the bounty hunter who keeps sending Iroh on wild goose chases bc she has a soft spot for the weird ferel kids. (And a huge crush on the gaurd who was basically their mom/older sister for a while. But we donât need to talk about that)
so zuko and Azula are just these absolutely feral kids being hunted by 12 dozen bounty hunters from their father, plus the âdragon princess and pheonix princeâ have officially been declared âtraitors to the nation that are impersonating the late children of Firelord Ozaiâ so thereâs a good amount of the actual military after them, and theyâre trying to keep away from their uncle and all his fucking white lotus freinds
Theyâre a little bit stressed ok??? And like super protective of eachother by this point
And then who joins the fucking search??? The goddam avatar
Bc he heard these stories about these good firebenders who protect everyone no matter what side of the war theyâre on. And ofc Aang wants one or both of them to teach him
So Aang like the lovable idiot he is, is just trying so hard to adopt these crazy feral firebenders.
And ik I keep saying feral but like. I need to emphasize this bc these two spent 2 years on the run + 2 more years on the run while basically living in fucking forests cus theyâre out of money, connections, and the gaurd was the only one out of the three of them with social skills. Theyâre a little stressed okay???
And idk I just love the idea of Aang trying to befriend these crazy feral firebenders acting like theyâre just like. Wild animals or smthn. Like cornering them in a clearing and trying to offer them jerky as if they were wolves and the two giving him the blankest fucking expression
Anyway this post is about 200x longer than I meant it to be and I am so so sorry. (Especially since I canât put in a read more on mobile)
Anyway bc itâs so long iâm just gonna do the last bit in bullet form and try to finish as quickly as humanly possible
- obvi they join the avatar and stuff
- the gaurd (who ima call kit/kitsune cus I donât have a name for her) eventually meets/joins with Iroh. June later joins them as well as they try to find the idiot fire children
- Sokka has a big gay crush on the feral firebening guy
- Katara has a very tiny crush she refuses to admit too on Azula
- thereâs also a lot of drama between her and Azula at first bc Azula is brash and Katara kinda gets annoyed at a mix of that/the lingering bias she has against fire nation ppl but they get past it
- also Azula has ~issues~ where she blames herself for their momâs death/ is sure their mom hates them but asp their mom comes to her in spirit form and says she loves her (no fucking clue when that would happen but I love that idea)
- instead of having zuko/Azula chasing them they have a really fun variety of different random bounty hunters. Obvi including sparky sparky boom man
- the siege of the north.... happens. Though Zhao doesnât kill the moon spirit so yue lives, and Azula and zuko manage to make a huge speech and get many of the soldiers to defect to their side instead so it ends with minimal bloodshed
- when Toph joins the group she and Azula are chaos incarnate
-mai and ty lee hear rumors and stuff and join team avatar eventually
- when they find out about the day of black sun they just. Skip trying to talk to the earth king. Cus they can just stage a cou lol they have the people on their side?? Forces from both water tribes, random earth kingdom ppl theyâve managed to befriend,,,,
- though they have to find uncle first bc he could challenge zuko for the throne. Obvi they think theyâll need to get rid of him bc they donât really know him and think he wants to hurt them but all of a sudden??? ďżź
- so they kinda have a few side quests as theyâre preparing and gathering everyone but then itâs the day of black sun!!! And it works and shit and I actually have some other ideas too but FUCK this is SO LONG i am so sorry and will shut up now
#atla#princess azula#azula atla#zuko#zuko atla#prince zuko#iroh#iroh atla#aang#aang atla#katara atla#sokka atla#yue atla#zukka#toph atla#i am so sorry that this is so long ahhhh#long post#pls rb i just speant 2 hrs on it even if iâs longer than g-d ever intended#child abuse tw#graphic#tagging just in case
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day two: captain hearth & achilles
get ready for day two!! these guardsmen have a lot of sweet & a lot of sad in their stories, so buckle up yâall. these two boys do have ships w other ocâs, so if you wanna know more iâll gladly share (and thereâs probs a ton that iâm missing so đ¤ˇđťââď¸)
crane, jamie, & crow belong to my dear friend @capricornrabies and the art was done by @persaloodles
playlists: captain hearth and achilles & skadia
fics: home (achilles x reader), youâre just harder to see than most (achilles x skadia)
trigger warning: suicide, civvie-initiated violence against the cg, character death
literally so kind and he actually has brain cells
literally so kind and he actually has brain cells
known for giving bomb ass hugs
has flame tattoos that start on his wrists (where two black bands w/ a brick-like patterning make circlets) and go up toward his elbows
will never hesitate to help someone else in need no matter how it affects him
named for the goddess hestia, of home and the hearth partly bc his hugs make ppl yearn for a home they never had
his callsign is âfireâ in asl (spreading hands into fives and w palms facing you, bringing hands upward and wiggling fingers slightly)
doesnât understand why ppl love him so much but doesnât question it
best friends w crane and will give him habitats for craneâs bugs after extensive research over what they need
can naturally cook SOOO WELL, like no one even knows how bc the longnecks sure af didnât teach him. crane will sneak him ingredients sometimes and snoop will send follow-along videos for recipes he thinks hearth should try, typically including snoopâs senator friend
didnât talk to thire for a week after he insulted hearthâs cooking
knitted who a scarf with the colors of several battalions and since then, began to knit care packages to be sent to his brothers on the front lines (blankets, scarves, gloves, etc.). was able to enlist the help of morticus to lighten the load and when the 501st is on leave, they like to knit together and talk shit abt their bros
was accidentally pranked by crow and it had disastrous results. hearth was trying to get fox some dinner and when he opened the door to foxâs office, where the glitter was rigged, hearth was covered in red glitter and a perfectly good bowl of soup was ruined
adopted angry boy achilles and when he noticed achilles intentionally trying to get himself killed, had yelled in anger for the first time
hearth calling achilles on his shit is the one time people see hearth angry about anything bc normally heâs the most loving dude
hearth, being named for hestia, normally the âflamesâ of his personality are akin to a soothing fireplace made to comfort and chase the chill away, but his anger is a wildfire that no one thus far has been able to control. you have to let hearth deal with his anger on his own until heâs able to quell it down, man doesnât know what power he holds when angry bc he just doesnât use that emotion hardly ever
but back to achilles diving into danger and hearth calling him on it
hearth feels incredibly guilty abt yelling afterwards and tries to find achilles to apologize, but it was too late
man ended up holding his vodâika as he died, glad that achilles wasnât suffering anymore but miserable bc he failed good brother
used to have long crimson hair heâd let achilles braid when the latter was coming down from his fits of anger or depression. after achilles died, he kept it trimmed to a regulation buzz. still keeps hairties on his wrist as if he still needs to tie it up bc itâs muscle memory to put them on in the mornings
you see hearth and think he would immediately be attracted to the softer and kinder people the world has to offer but no
this man is head over heels for the far angrier, blunt, and nearly indifferent jamie (belongs to @capricornrabies also). sheâs a police captain w the coruscant police and has a reputation for being grumpy
jamie has cybernetics/prosthetics (hand, and eye at the minimum), and sometimes they malfunction, thatâs just what they do. he learns quick the ins and outs of taking care of someone w/ prosthetics and is super gentle
soft dom (and a sprinkle of brat tamer) vibes
jamie has a younger sister named jacob (youâll learn abt her later) and theyâve been thru hell. jamieâs prosthetics/cybernetics were punishments from handlers for not performing to their standards (think of smth akin to hydra & the winter soldier program, that kind of cruelty).
jacob and jamie were born into poverty in the lower levels of coruscant, so when a program to have steady employment came up in exchange for genetic testing they took it
she is very mistrusting but it comes out more in rash anger and being an ass
when she sees her sister start to become more domestic, jamie is upset but then does the exact same thing with hearth
was like a big sister to achilles bc big sister instinct told her to protect this soft angry bean
jamie is a very avid practiced of the tough love and itâs useful when hearth needs to be reminded to get out of his head
achilles
inspired by the song âachilles come downâ by gang of youths (OWW)
was basically adopted by hearth when he joined the guard and had no idea what to do abt it
was too used to being the one to take care of his brothers, being the oldest of his batch back on kamino. but after one brother died in a training simulation & two were decommissioned, he lost hope and isolated himself from his kihâvod until they were all stationed somewhere he wasnât and he couldnât worry
has really bad anxiety & hearth would let him braid his hair to come down from attacks. it was very soothing to both parties & hearth personally liked the braiding the best when achilles did it
donât let his outbursts fool you he is an absolutely precious and loving soul. would give the shirt off his back to someone in need
very shy when it comes to romance. wants whatâs best for his s/o and dates are the few times where he feels truly safe to open up and be happy
this sweet boy gets to show off all that sugar sweetness w skadia, who belongs to @roseofalderaan . embraces her culture, shows her what itâs like to truly love, the whole nine yards.
skadia has wings and theyâre his favorite thing ever. heâll run his hands thru them, help her preen. absolutely adores it when she cages him in w them
they loved to dance together, typically something soft and slow where they could hold each other as close as possible and get lost in the moment
after being in the guard for a few years, he was disillusioned and angry with life bc he saw how clones were treated & that nothing was done about it, both on kamino and coruscant
tried to do things abt it himself but they always backfired, thus resulting in him getting demerits and beat up by civvies
hearth would be the first one contacted when he limped back into the barracks and was always walked to the medbay by his oriâvod (sometimes letting achilles rest most/all of his weight on him as they walked/limped)
one of these times, he tried to call out a merchant for being racist against clones but got jumped. from there, had started to intentionally endanger himself on missions
stopped listening to orders and would charge into bad situations with the intent to get himself killed
hearth is the one to call him on his shit. achilles ends up feeling incredibly guilty for making his oriâvod angry and in his guilt/anger, left and provoked the merchant from before. the merchant killed him and hearth was only seconds too late
in short this absolute angel deserved more than he got
#blue jayâs boys#achilles x reader#clone trooper achilles#clone trooper hearth#captain hearth#swtcw#clone oc#clone oc x reader
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for the âgive me a characterâ meme! Eric, Adam, William, Mallick, Strahm, Rigg!!!!
YESS thank u!!!!
Eric:
How I feel about this character: That's my boy!!! <33
All the people I ship romantically with this character: Uuuu okay. Adam, obviously, but concerning the SAW polycule: Adam, Art, Lawrence, William, & Mallick!!
My non-romantic OTP for this character: Him & Rigg!!! That's his best friend!!! + he and Gibson in the Eric Lives AU!! (Gibson IS dating his best friend + recognizes that he's made the effort to change <3)
My unpopular opinion about this character: You Understand This but the idea that he's irredeemable/deserved to die is complete and utter bullshit. This post that you made perfectly describes my feelings on that!!
One thing I wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon: Firstly that he. Y'know. Didn't die. But I would have loved to see any of his interactions with Hoffman? Obviously they knew each other + I like to think they have since they were in academy together, so there's gotta be some sort of history there, y'know?? I feel like he definitely cared about Eric so I would've been very interested to see more regarding that relationship! + one more big one: I wish he knew/was at least made aware of the fact that Daniel was ALIVE and okay. It kills me thinking abt how this man died not knowing if his child made it out.
Adam:
How I feel about this character: I loooove him he deserved better. I relate pretty heavily to him.
All the people I ship romantically with this character: Hehe. Lawrence obviously!! Chainshipping is a HUGE comfort ship for me. BUT! Regarding the SAW polycule: Lawrence, Eric, William, Gibson, & Mallick!! + when concerning that alternative canon continuity we've been talking abt, Strahm. But only in that circumstance lol,,
My non-romantic OTP for this character: MANDY!!! In any AU where she's either not a disciple or abandoned her apprenticeship, I firmly believe that he and Amanda would be best friends. Mean gay/lesbian solidarity siblings who would fight tooth and nail for each other + who get each other on a level that not many others can. Pamela also!! Along w Mandy I like to think they talk about their experiences being trans a lot + just bitching w each other lol.
My unpopular opinion about this character: IDK how unpopular this actually is but I 100% believe that Adam would never become a disciple in any capacity, ESP not of his own accord. I genuinely think he'd rather die. That's just not something I can see him doing in any circumstance.
One thing I wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon: I wish someone had gotten him out of the bathroom :( And in an AU where he lives I hope someone tells him what a bastard Zep was!! No one made that dude hold a gun to Diana's head and listen to her heartbeat what the FUCK was that!!
William:
How I feel about this character: He's such a sweetheart I love him,, <33
All the people I ship romantically with this character: Lawrence & Adam <3 in the polycule though this includes Eric & Mallick!!
My non-romantic OTP for this character: He and Pamela obviously!! His sister is his best friend and they're there for each other 100%.
My unpopular opinion about this character: Much like Eric I don't think he deserved to die/that he's completely irredeemable... he fights so hard to save everyone and is utterly devastated when he can't. He's willing to hurt himself to save others (nearly dislocating his shoulders trying to keep both Addy and Allen, burning himself with the steam for Debbie, etc.) and it's like. John is always talking about how it can't be personal but it seems pretty fucking personal here!
One thing I wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon: The fact that nobody saw how hard he fought for his coworkers + the sacrifices he made for them upsets me to no end. That was intentional. John didn't want Tara + Brent (or Pamela for that matter!) to see him as human and that fucking bothers me!! So basically I just wish that they could've seen it via camera like literally almost every trap victim gets in some capacity!!
Mallick:
How I feel about this character: Yet another character I relate to wayyy too much <33 I love him...
All the people I ship romantically with this character: BRIT!!! + concerning the SAW polycule: Adam, Eric, William, & Lawrence!! (Art maybe too,,)
My non-romantic OTP for this character: I like to think he and Laura would've gotten along actually? I feel like that would be a good, healthy friendship. And I do like the idea of he and Brit like this too!! Other than that maybe Mandy? I feel like they could relate to each other a little bit, help each other when they're feeling brainweird,, (Mallick n Mandy: havers of Symptoms Disorder <3)
My unpopular opinion about this character: Again I don't know if it's unpopular, persay, but uh. I don't think the Mallick we meet in V would willingly sit and listen to Bobby Dagen in 3D. He'd hate that dude. My take on it is that Brit didn't survive V (although I think read somewhere that the crew confirmed she survived?) and that's why he was there: because he'd lost the one true connection he'd made in god knows how long. That's rlly the only way I see him sitting thru Dagen's bullshit lmao.
One thing I wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon: I wanted him to see Brit again,, and I just wanted to see him more in general tbh, esp because he makes a reappearance where so many prior Jigsaw survivors do not. I would've liked to see him interact with Simone given that they both lost a limb/nearly a limb (in Mallick's case). This is related to that, but I also wish the evidence of the 10 Pints trap wasn't just. A tiny scar? I HC that it took his whole hand, so.
Strahm:
How I feel about this character: Ohhh my beloved. Why didn't they give you a better narrative it would've been SO interesting. I love you though <3
All the people I ship romantically with this character: Honestly? Still super fond of Gibson/Strahm in a scenario where things are different,, I've written quite a bit abt them and kinda want to again but if I do it'll probably be. Not for a while + VASTLY different. but recent additions have been Hoffman (I used to. not understand Stroffman whatsoever. now I Get It) and Adam!!
My non-romantic OTP for this character: PEREZ!!! I've always thought of them as best friends since I first saw IV, and I do think he genuinely cared about her - quite a lot, actually, esp given how devastated he was when she was injured. They hang out at each other's apartments all the time + get coffee regularly. I love them.
My unpopular opinion about this character: I don't think he's a dumbass?? I don't know if that's unpopular. I think that he's IMPULSIVE and that it gets him into trouble, but Strahm has always struck me as incredibly intelligent + has a good moral compass for the most part?? I mean, he figured out there was a second apprentice (second as far as he knows, anyway) helping with traps just by examining Kerry's crime scene. I think he's VERY smart. He just acts quickly + sometimes that means there's not much planning for if things go south. (I DO agree that showing up to the packing plant w/out backup was dumb though,, doesn't mean he DESERVED the Water Cube but y'know)
One thing I wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon: It's not really mentioned if he does in canon, but I wish he'd been made aware of the fact that Perez was alive,, it bothers me that he might've died not knowing she was okay. The other thing is that I wish he'd survived V!!! I think it would've been WAY more narratively satisfying for him to kinda follow in Tapp's footsteps as a vigilante Jigsaw hunter. (That's why I love yr takes on him so much!!)
Rigg:
How I feel about this character: He has such a big heart. He cares so so much. I wish ppl talked about him more :(
All the people I ship romantically with this character: Gibson!!! And uhh Hoffman, but they're exes,, but! In a scenario I'm kind of going over in my head, maaaybe Adam... the basics though is that he searches the Nerve Gas House independently and somehow finds the Bathroom following II, and He is the one to rescue Adam. Very tentative abt that one though bc I'm still working it out lol. (Possibly Eric/Adam/Rigg???)
My non-romantic OTP for this character: Eric!!! His best friend <3 I think he's also pretty close with Kerry, though I think he hangs out w her independent of Eric given,, the messy ex situation. I think he probably got along well with Fisk too!! OH and I think he and Sing would've been good friends as well. The chaos of a Rigg/Gibson/Sing friend trio...
My unpopular opinion about this character: Mmm I don't know that I have one? Other than maybe like. I understood why he went through the door. He knew Eric was on the other side; he just didn't know the circumstances or what would happen if he went through. All he knew was that he was that much closer to someone he's been trying to find/rescue for MONTHS + someone he cares for deeply. Of COURSE he went through. He breaks my heart ugh,,,
One thing I wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon: I wish he hadn't even been tested!!!! His one flaw was that he cared about ppl and somehow John saw that as something he needed to fix!!! Like yes I do agree that it was eating away at him and the obsession might've been unhealthy, but that's two of his closest friends dude!! I don't think he deserved to be tested for that. I don't. He just wanted to help ppl and keep them safe. I absolutely despise how Rigg was treated dkjflkdf!!!!
#saw#eric#adam#william#mallick#strahm#rigg#asks#long post#THANK U I loved getting 2 answer this!!!#+ if anyone else wants 2 send more for different SAW characters I'm still open to these!!#dude I have So Many Feelings abt rigg lately goddd#also I just realized tht this is all my f/os. rigg is a platonic one But Still!!!
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Assorted House of Feanor Thoughts
I wrote this as a reply to someone, but then realized that this should be a post of its own.Â
Line between extrapolation, interpretation & headcanon is going to be fluid here
Long post under cut
The seven sons in general:
all moody, fierce, intense and brilliant, each in various different ways
none of them can really stand to be cooped up in one place for long
F R E C K L E S you will not convince me otherwise
Apart from the ones explicitly described as pretty (ie, Maedhros and Celegorm) theyâre actually relatively plain by elf standards, or at least sort of rugged-looking, especially compared to their part-Vanyar cousins - I mean, figures that some would turn out more like Miriel or Nerdanel both of which were supposedly more average.
all are very resourceful having spent most of their lives helping out with their parentâs projects, exploring the wilderness, or (save for Celegorm) hanging out in Auleâs halls. Most can probably whip up a steampunk or magitech solution to basic war-related problems
Because of this theyâre a very tight-knit group
growing up, they did not know many children their age; Ironically the most contact they had was with their cousins because Feanor paid semi-regular visits to Finwe. Apart from Turgon (and Orodreth if you place him in the second rather than the third post-journey generation) the cousins really dug the adventure stories. (Galadriel pretended not to be interested and offered plenty of critiques, but listened anyways)
more survival skills and just a lot more casual than your average princes
Theyâd all been adults for a good while by the time of the rebellion; the twins are a tad older than Aredhel, Galadriel and Argon; Caranthir and Angrod are about the same age. Curufin is younger than Aegnor.
They all look back at that trip to the lightless shore of the outer sea as a cherished family memory
Also I donât think Feanor disciplined his sons very much after all his own father let him get away with everything. In his eyes the brats can do no wrong especially not Curufin and to a lesser extent Amrod Nerdanel tried her best to counterbalance this and it kind of worked on some of them, but the three middle ones were a lost cause
I think a lot of the weight behind the oath comes from how Feanor made them promise him to see it through on his deathbed. It was his literal last wish.
Maedhros:
The Leaderâ˘, the most strong-willed and the deadliest fighter by a huge margin. What the orc under your bed has nightmares about.
Obviously a very competent diplomat, strategist, and the sort to put constructive results over personal glory; resilient, formidable, unpretentious and tough as leather
but not at all overconfident, and the type who is not blind to the flaws of the people he loves. He knows very well that Feanor wasnât perfect and does many things that his father would not have agreed with - at the same time he has a strong sense of obligation, honor and loyalty which turns out to be his fatal flaw in the end when being loyal and keeping his word  increasingly requires him to do dishonorable things
if there was a definite breaking point it was the fiasco with Diorâs sons
Stoic but courteous and eloquent; From Finweâs death onwards increasingly grim, grizzled and not very hopeful, though heâs the sort to give his all and try to be noble even when thereâs no reward or even thanks or respect.
Despite this, he has as a dry sense of humor and at times uses it to defuse tense situations or disarm people heâs negotiating with (see the scene with Thingolâs message) - does have a streak of gallows humor to him especially after the Thangorodrim incident
As the heir Feanor actually let him in on trade secrets and scientific speculation; Their relationship is probably the most equal; I do think Feanor was capable of actually appreciating that Maedhros got a mind of his own and isnât afraid to stand up for himself. Feanor values independent thought, even if heâs not always good at really living that value with his tendency to take things personally and see others as taking sides for or against him. Â
Canât really craft stuff to the same degree without his right hand. He then focussed on more abstract/mental pursuits which were perhaps his forte, to begin with but it still bothers him more than he lets on, especially since he still retains, or swiftly regained, his skill at making things dead.Â
He may or may not qualify as a cinnamon roll but he definitely looks like could kill you
Maglor:
Maedhros might have been the token responsible sibling, but Maglor was the understanding, comforting one and always had a nurturing streak - hence why he was the one to take in the kids.
Sensitive Artistic Type⢠- goes from quirky and passionate back in Valinor to melancholy & tormented as the war drags on
one of those people who despair over & get self-critical over their work even when itâs regarded as masterpieces
Like Feanor and Miriel before him, he tends to get super absorbed in his work/art and just plain disappears for days
Now some ppl hold that he didnât start having second thoughts until near the end, but judging from how he comes along to Fingolfinâs party or to hang out with Finrod, Iâd hold that he was always âthe nice/gentle oneâ, but not solely in a positive way; Unlike Maedhros he did not stand up to Feanor about the thing with the ships and indeed lets Maedhros talk him out of turning himself in at the very end, so heâs probably somewhat lacking in assertiveness
Even so, heâs probably one of the better fighters, given the difficult territory he gets, that heâs the one to kill Ulfang, and how long he survives. He probably feels ambivalent about this.Â
I imagine him having an agility-based fighting style
Probably codified the heroic epos as a specifically Noldorin art form
Celegorm:
A lot of ppl focus on the barbarian aspect, but Iâd say he actually has some degree of âsubverted prince charmingâ going on, with how he sweet-talks Luthien at first before throwing her in the dungeon, and how he seems to have been one of the more accomplished ones, joining a respected order and all
Heâs actually pretty elegant and perhaps playfully gallant, but itâs a facade; Heâs an animal underneath; though his instincts are probably somewhat nobler than what ends up happening when he gets roped into Curufinâs schemes
usually, the first to react and leap into action when something happens.
Herculean strength, daunting presence
also a fairly efficient general, if a bit of a glory hound and pretty fearless in the pursuit of victory
very much has an ego and doesnât like being humbled at all
Strikes me as the sort of person who would take badly to the realization that they can no longer return to the glory of the past or being judged unworthy, not that heâd respond with anything but defiance
Wrestles giant monsters barehanded
Always low-key wished to fight creatures of darkness before the rebellion to test his might against them; Orome and the Maiar members of the hunt would have told stories of them
though he gets his pretty face from Daddy, his strong build comes from Nerdanel, possibly somewhat accentuated by his being a dude
Caranthir:
grumpy, moody, no filter, likes his alone time, shows his feelings mostly through actions, also somewhat pragmatic
the quartermaster; Actually one of the smarter ones, if not outright the second smartest after Curufin, though he has more a logistic/administrative sort of intelligence
generally one of the more prosaic, practical family members, or maybe heâs just more subtle about his dramatic side or has a harder time expressing it. Definitely has Hidden Dephtsâ˘
I mean, putting your hideout on the slope of a mountain near a deep, dark lake circled by mountains? Goth AF. A+ aesthetic there.
Hosts the family get-togethers at his fortress. Has most certainly shoved Celegorm and Curufin in the lake at some point
has a certain respect for strength, valor and skill even in ppl he doesnât necessarily like; Not at all diplomatic or polite, but also not finicky or fastidious, so actually forged a whole lot of alliances on a âeveryoneâs money/swords are equally good and we donât have to set conditionsâ basis and seems to have been pretty successful at this
started out haughty but definitely learned to be more open-minded/ broaden his horizon over his time in Beleriand - but as no good deed goes unpunished, Ulfang happens
Whereas Curufin and Celegorm can put up a noble veneer but will totally stab you in the back if provoked, Caranthirâs sort of the opposite, in that heâs rude and quarrelsome on first contact but has a good heart deep down (see the Haladin incident) and doesnât keep grudges long term once heâs done grumbling where Celegorm is sore loser and Curufin a spiteful twerp.
though personally, I donât see Caranthir as trying to reign himself in. He wouldnât really be known as âthe harshestâ in that case. Who was gonna teach him to behave himself, Feanor maybe? kek.Â
Curufin:
We have a lot of actual dialogue & description for him - he has this characteristic little defiant smile, is often coldly contemptuous in tone, some level of ruthless pragmatism
has mild/vague foresight - nothing as impressive as what Finrod and Galadriel have, but he has it more or less to the degree that Feanor did.
actually pretty insightful, thought-through and political-minded in some ways, too bad he shares Feanorâs tendency for unwarranted suspicion and factionalism, as well as a tendency to just act on his own without checking with anyone
always either filthy from work or fully blinged-out and impeccably groomed, no in-between
more calculated and subtle than Feanor - not that Feanor ever needed calculation or subtlety since he could get by on sheer awe or intimidation. Celegorm and Maedhros have that same quality in spades and Curufinâs a little bit jealous
Not actually that much older than the twins, but always acted older than his age, especially once he heard that Feanor was the same
collects weapons, loves fancy horses, the most traditionally aristocratic of the seven
Got married relatively young; saw it as a matter of honor to further his familyâs line
continued his scholarly pursuits in Beleriand; this is part of why he elected to share a territory with Celegorm
The last Celebrimbor ever heard of him was a magically sealed box filled with research notes he sent out in case he didnât make it out alive
Did not take his parentsâ estrangement well and is stubbornly salty toward Nerdanel (though deep down he misses her as much as his brothers if not more)
Frequently the Bad Influence/ Shoulder Devil to his brothers.
But when he gets excited about his research/craft heâs got this âexited cocky little boyâ side to him thatâs surprisingly pure.Â
Only Nerdanel and possibly Celebrimborâs mom are allowed to call him âAtarinke.â His brothers might still use it when theyâre teasing or scolding him.Â
The Twins:
Every time a fic does something else with them than âgeneric prankster redheadsâ I cry with joy
We donât have that many data points on them, but most of them suggest theyâre every bit as fierce as their brothers
theyâre somewhat aloof & mostly do their own thing;
As kids theyâd mostly sit in a corner and play with each other. Possibly deliberately played up their identicalness as a kind of emo fashion statement / to fuck with people (âShould we do this Ambarussa?â - âI donât know, what do you think, Ambarussa?â)
never really gave up their semi-nomadic ways
Compared to Celegorm they probably more on stealth and precision than strength and bravado. They suddenly appear in front of you, and bam! Youâve got an arrow poking out of your face. Probably the ones scouting the perimeter of the camp.
Amras is a bit sassier, but itâs actually Amrod whoâs a little bit braver.
Hardly ever argued until their parentsâ estrangement; That led to quite a few quarrels between them.
For all his faults, Feanor made a point of doing things with each of them individually.
quietly nursing some level of pent-up despair and frustration until they push for the assault on Sirion
In the version where one of them dies, and then no one ever talks about it, - I imagine that the remaining one ended up cynical in a âletâs just get it ever with weâre already doomed after allâ kind of way
Bonus:
Celebrimbor
âCuriosity killed the cat but the second mouse gets the cheeseâ incarnate. Heâs a sweet, excitable, deeply good guy, but Curiosity is the strongest force within him, besides maybe âthink of the potentialâ
very bold in his thinking, not held back by any conventional boundaries. This is partially why he ended up more independent than his father and uncles but ironically that might in a sense make him more similar to grandpa than any of them
Really looks like Feanor. Like, Arwen and Luthien level of resemblance. It takes ppl a bit to notice because of how different his general demeanor and surface-level personality is.Â
Very scattered and absent-minded, prone to sudden flashes of inspiration, often shows up in some form of disarray
spent his adolescence at Formenos. Retained a certain affinity for wintery places ever since
He sensed something fishy about Sauron before long, but between wanting to avoid the family propensity for unwarranted suspicion and being tempted by all the possibilities of what he could do with that power/knowledge even if it did come from a fishy source, he didnât act before it was too late - he can't have been fully clueless since he hid the three; There was definitely just a bit of actual seduction/forbidden fruit appeal in place there, whether to use the word âhubrisâ probably depends on your philosophy.Â
He drops the âthâ once he renounces Curufin, but slips right back into the old habit when excited or exasperating. At some point during his rule of Eregion, he stops bothering to hide it - A similar thing happens when heâs talking Sindarin with his northeast Beleriand accent.Â
I know this is a very popular old hat headcanon, but... His other name is also âCurufinweâ. Everyone called him Telperinquar from the start, lest all three come running and grumble about being distracted from work, but after the Nargothrond debacle, he had other reasons for not using it. But really, Telperinquar/Celebrimbor is just another more metaphorical way to say âthis baby shall be good at working with his handsâ so yeah
My HC for where he was between the Finrod incident and the second age is as follows: He departed for war with Gwindorâs troupe (this is someone who tried to engineer a way around entropy - not a âdo nothingâ sort of guy) and fled the battlefield with Turgon. (hence some of the passages that place him in Gondolin can still be made to work. He totally made Earendilâs baby-sized mail coat) He fled with Idrilâs party. Had she not tipped him off somehow he would probably have died with the rest of the smithâs guild. Or perhaps he grabbed all the valuable records he could find and ran for it because someone needed to preserve them. As living surrounded by the survivors of Doriath would have been awkward to say the least, he went to the isle of Balar to offer his skills and service to Gil-Galad. This is where he befriended/ reconnected with Galadriel and Celeborn.Â
Finrod once told him the âfaithful stoneâ legend from Brethil. It would be an inspiration to him much later. Generally credits Finrod with being a good influence on him.Â
Judging by the stars on the doors of Durin his stance on his family probably softened over the years. He essentially attained their original new dream of exploring distant lands and building unparalleled new realms, at least for a while - also definitely has a similar âscrew destiny!â/ âI defy you stars!â attitude. Perhaps he wanted to see their vision done right.Â
But on some level, I think he also wanted to associate himself with their fame eventually especially once his own accomplishments grew. His feelings were probably always very ambiguous because he must have admired and envied their great works but also lived getting weird looks whenever he did what heâs best at and loves doing most in the world because it associates him with these very ambiguous people whom many hated... at one point in the past he must have really admired his father and grandfather, I mean, he came with them across the sea.Â
Nerdanel
She got Feanor the apprenticeship / gave him the idea after they met on their travels.Â
Were seen as something of an eccentric hippie/ hipster couple in the early days
Sheâs tough, confident and definitely quipped/ yelled back at times. Definitely described as âstrong-willedâ and individual. Like this was a âkindred spiritsâ thing before everything went to hell
it counts for something that even during the ugly bitter parting scene the worst Feanor could say was âsomeone mustâve turned you against me because you definitely cared onceâ rather than âyouâre a traitorâ for all that everything else in that scene made him very punchable
Their relationship dynamic, as I see it, is that sheâs the one person who just sees and treats him like a normal dude. No apprehension, no fawning. Heâs not âthe greatestâ or a tainted aberration to her, heâs simply a like-minded friend. So sheâs pretty chill about his idiosyncrasies and doesnât see them as a big deal, but on the other hand, sheâs not overawed and will not take bullshit
Since she is good at understanding people she probably usually gets where heâs coming from even when heâs not being reasonable
possibly invented abstract art; was most certainly influential.Â
the elves who serve Aule probably have their own little traditions. She mightâve imparted some of those on her descendants
Also ppl tend to forget that she also does metalwork. Again, itâs quite possible that she got him into it and that if theyâd never met, he might have landed in a completely different discipline
I think it says a lot about Feanor that he chose her for being smart, creative and independent-minded. It shows that he actually values these things and that itâs not just a rhetorical device;Â heâs not a hypocrite, he failed at what he was genuinely trying to aim for.Â
She had Finwe won over the moment she mentioned that she likes children. To Feanorâs chagrin, she proclaimed that his then-tiny half-siblings were the cutest thing ever but since he was trying to impress Nerdanel, he actually kept his composure there.Â
She was totally buds with Earwen and Anaire.Â
I really like those fics where she played some part in the reconstruction efforts. Sheâs already renowned for her wisdom and has some familiarity with the court, so why wouldnât Finarfin make her an advisor?Â
Miriel
She was described as having âsilverâ hair like what the teleri sometimes have, but that was for lack of a better world. Itâs actually pretty close to pure white. It was an unprecedented anomaly. Celegorm got it. Though overall Maglor might be the one who most looks like her. Or maybe Caranthir.Â
Well, her tendency to refuse to eat her words no matter what has certainly proven highly heritable
Canonically one of those ppl who talks very fastÂ
Feanor doesnât look very much like her at all, but he talks like her and is similar in his body language etc. The shape of her hands, however, has made it all the way to Celebrimbor in an unbroken line. Maglorâs got em too.Â
She was the only one of her family to make the great journey. Thatâs why âthe names of her kin are not recordedâ. You see, they tried to convince her not to go, and that only made her more determined.Â
Miriel and Indis used to have this thing where Miriel would sing while Indis plays the instrument. First time Indis caught Maedhros and Fingon doing something similar she got very emotional about it. She told them how she and Miriel also used to have a sort of odd friendship despite their opposite looks and personalities. Maedhros had at this point never even heard that they used to be friends. She proceeded to tell him some fun stories from Mirielâs youth and encouraged the two to spend time together.Â
Weâre told that Miriel and Finwe only got together in Valinor; Since Indis had a thing for him since before the Vanyar moved out of Tirion itâs fully possible that Indis actually liked him first. Maybe she actually introduced them to each other, like she wasn't confident enough to ask him on a date so she brought her friend, only for the two to be immediately smitten with each other. Poor Indis decided that she had no chance and moved out of town when Ingwe did.Â
Miriel definitely expresses her love/admiration in the way of âYou! Youâre perf! I must make art of you!â
Since his arrival in the halls of Mandos, Feanor has made several of Vaireâs Maiar cry with his critique of their tapestries, but he holds that his momâs are best.Â
Feanor himself
In general, I hold that while he said many things that were not right, thereâs a lot of what he prophecied that was not quite wrong and does come true in a kind of way, even if not necessarily for himself and his family. They sort of pave the way as Promethean figures. The second mouse gets the cheese (itâs usually some Nolofinwean)
Though heâs also the ultimate example of âyou are not immune to propagandaâ. Literally the smartest man in the world; Still touchy enough to be an easy mark for emotional manipulation.Â
I think a lot of ff undersells what a polymath he mustâve been and that part where he worked on many different topics and was âthe most learnedâ.Â
You know the type of author who has a bazillion unfinished wips going and jumps wildly from topic to topic? Feanorâs research notes are exactly like that, especially the tendency to disintegrate into cryptic jottings and notes right before the most interesting part.  Just like the unfinished texts from HoMe Just like Gauss or Euler, having invented everything a hundred years ahead and 40% more discoveries buried that he never felt ready to publish. (I can also definitely see the sons â especially Maedhros and Curufin â spending the better part of the siege of Angband compiling some of it into a presentable format. Celebrimbor would then be the one to stumble upon implications /corollaries that had somehow been missed for thousands of years.Â
For all that I enjoy fics where theyâre all smoll and adorable as much as the next person, canonically weâre given every indication that he was an adolescent or young adult by the time the remarriage occurred. The published silm has him âwell-nigh full-grownâ by the time Indis started having kids; In the HoME passage detailing the romantic meeting on the mountain itâs said that he was âwandering in the mountainsâ (ie, old enough to do so on his own) at the time. He moved out as soon as he could, so he and his half-siblings never actually spent any significant time in the same household
I mean, he reacted like a teenager would, and IMHO neither his character nor Finweâs make any sense if this wasnât a single parent situation early on.Â
Personally, I really donât like that headcanon that he was nicer to the sisters for no reason. I donât think his relationship with Fingolfin was ever much better than the sort of âawkwardly toleratingâ we saw at the reconciliation scene; At the same time, I donât think things would ever have escalated to that degree if Melkor hadnât gone mucking things up.Â
In the same vein, I donât think he always had beef with the Valar. He used to hang out in Auleâs halls and let Celegorm study with Orome after all and studied their language. - he certainly seems to have had some romanticism for the Hither Lands evident in his speeches, he traveled far past the well-lit areas, made crystals that shine in starlight etc. so he was probably always somewhat independent-minded and he certainly knew, better than anyone, that the Valar are imperfect and canât fix everything (they couldnât heal Miriel after all) - but itâs a long way from healthy skepticism and understandable disappointment to asserting bad intentions where there are none.Â
Thereâs a long way between not wanting a relationship with someone, and pointing stabby objects at them. Feanor was always difficult and never the type of person to be easily satisfied but at the same time, he clearly had his âdelightâ in his work and life as it was pre-Melkor. He couldâve gone on as an inventor and author of strongly worded opinion pieces; perhaps the elves were even âmeantâ to go back & come into contact with the Edain for a brief while, just without all the murder.Â
The thing about Melkorâs lies is that they made a complicated situation conveniently easy in a way that he (and Fingolfin!) would want to believe. Itâs not really either of their fault that they both exist, but if your rival is actually out to get you then suddenly all your negative feelings are justifiedÂ
Personally, I donât think it the remarriage made that much of a difference - Miriel would still be dead. What Feanorâs really mad at is the inherent unfairness of the world. But he canât fix or fight that, so in a misfire of his engineerâs mindset that thinks in terms of simple cause and effect and wants the world to be logical and controllable, he blamed something tangible (Indis.)
I think Melkor hates him so much because heâs kinda what Melkor wishes he was or likes to think he is. Theyâre both the mightiest of their respective kinds and donât really fit in, but Feanorâs actually extremely creative. He goes and does his own thing, and maybe errs in overlooking that no man is an island and that all works are built on those of others, but, look at Melkor who wants all the scale of a group project but none of the âcooperationâ part and basically canât make anything of his own. âYouâre like me, yet youâre successful? I cannot allow it!âÂ
In a sense you have classic Satan and Miltonian satan in the same setting, and they canât stand each other
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