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— Absentee Empires: The Absence of Ottoman Influence in the Grishaverse and Its Potential Depth and Complexity
@aleksanderscult @siriuslyobsessedwithfiction @stromuprisahat @black-rose-writings Please share your thoughts on this—I’d love to hear your opinions!
One aspect of the Grishaverse that truly frustrates me is the absence of a nation inspired by the Ottoman Empire and the Arab world.
We have six well-defined nations—Ravka influenced by Imperial Russia, Fjerda drawing from Scandinavia, Shu Han reflecting elements of China and Mongolia, Kerch resembling the Netherlands, Novyi Zem based on the Americas, and the Wandering Isle inspired by Celtic cultures. But somehow, there’s no representation of the Ottoman Empire? It feels like a significant oversight, especially considering the empire's substantial power during the 16th century and its enduring influence into the 18th and 19th centuries, even amidst its decline.
While the Grishaverse hints at other “colonies” beyond the main nations, that doesn’t quite make up for the lack of an Ottoman-inspired culture. Just think about the richness it could have added! An Ottoman-inspired nation could have been filled with intricate politics, vibrant culture, and a fascinating history of diplomacy—especially with Ravka as a neighbor. The Ottomans had a complex and often contentious relationship with Imperial Russia, which included both trade and warfare. Imagining Ravka’s brooding intensity interacting with a nation influenced by Ottoman culture could have created such a thrilling dynamic, rich in both conflict and collaboration.
At first, I thought maybe some elements of Ottoman culture were reflected in Shu Han. But it’s pretty clear that Shu Han is primarily inspired by Mongolian and Chinese influences, making that connection a bit of a stretch. This feels like a missed opportunity, considering the Ottoman Empire was vast and influential, controlling significant parts of Southeast Europe, Western Asia, and North Africa. At its height, it was one of the world’s most powerful empires, playing a crucial role in European and Middle Eastern politics.
The potential for conflict between Ravka and an Ottoman-inspired nation would have been especially compelling. The 18th and 19th centuries saw numerous wars between the Ottoman Empire and Russia, primarily over territory in Eastern Europe and the Black Sea. These Russo-Turkish Wars significantly shaped the geopolitical landscape of the region. Instead of a straightforward narrative, we could have seen intricate power dynamics where alliances constantly shifted, leading to moments of both tension and unexpected cooperation. Imagine the political intrigue and skirmishes we could’ve witnessed…Instead of a simple “Good vs. Evil” narrative, we could have had layers of complexity, like “Who’s backstabbing whom today?” or “Are we trading grain or are we going to war?!”
But despite their military conflicts, the Ottoman Empire and Imperial Russia maintained a complex relationship that involved significant trade. As neighbors with intertwined economies, they exchanged goods like grain and textiles while competing for influence. A similar relationship in the Grishaverse could have added depth, showcasing how economic interdependence can exist alongside rivalry.
Additionally, the relationship between the Ottoman Empire and Fjerda could have been more diplomatic and friendly, especially given the historical context of increased interactions between the Ottomans and Scandinavian powers. The Danish and Swedish crowns sought to establish formal relations to protect their trade interests and gain support against regional rivals like Russia and Poland. For example, during the Great Northern War, Sweden sought support from the Ottomans against Russia. Although no significant military alliance was formed, the prospect of cooperation was explored. Diplomatic missions often resulted in the exchange of knowledge about military tactics, geography, and culture, enriching both sides’ understanding of each other. The relationship between the Ottoman Empire and Scandinavian countries was multifaceted, involving trade, diplomacy, and cultural exchange that could have deepened the tension between Ravka and the Ottoman-inspired nation. You know the saying, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"? The Ottoman nation would have taken that to heart!
Finally, an Ottoman-inspired nation might have treated Grisha in a way that reflects the Ottoman Empire’s approach to its minorities, offering some autonomy under a millet-like system but with enough restrictions to keep everyone on their toes. You know, like “You can have your own laws, but only if you don’t annoy us.”
In conclusion, the absence of an Ottoman Empire or Arab-inspired nation in the Grishaverse represents a missed opportunity to enrich the narrative with the complex dynamics and vibrant cultures that characterized these historical realms. The interplay between an Ottoman-inspired nation and Ravka could have introduced captivating political intrigues, cultural exchanges, and historical rivalries that would elevate the storytelling. The rich history of the Ottoman Empire—its intricate relationships with neighboring powers, its approach to trade, and its treatment of minorities—offers a wealth of material that could have added depth and complexity to the Grishaverse.
Ultimately, incorporating such a nation could have not only enhanced the world-building but also provided a platform to explore themes of power, identity, and coexistence in a compelling way, making the Grishaverse an even more engaging and multifaceted universe.
Any comments or opinions are appreciated it !!!
#idk everytime I re-read the books#or even watch the show#I think of this#and the missed opportunities#grishaverse#grisha trilogy#shadow and bone#the crows#the darkling#nikolai lantsov#kaz brekker#ravka#fjerda#shu han#kerch#leigh bardugo#aleksander morozova#general kirigan#alina starkov#genya safin#grishaverse meta#ruin and rising#siege and storm
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really makes me laugh seeing some people complain doctor who is gay now. babe THIS aired in 2005. doctor who has been gay a long damn time get with the program
#random emma thoughts#doctor who#dw#a show with captain jack in it is gay?? WELL DUH#i watched this kiss when i was 8 and was unbothered#welcome to the gay show#these people would not have survived in 2005#and definitely would have frothed at the mouth at torchwood which is an even gayer show than dw#anyway why are people surprised rtd who is gay writes gay stories#17k
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"What if my favourite show is delayed due to writers strike?"
With respect, no one cares about your favourite tv shows.
This is about real people fighting for their real livelihoods, for their futures.
I cannot articulate sufficiently how unimportant the production of some tv show or other is.
#i'll happily watch all my fav shows get cancelled if it means the writers win this#how are the stupid shows even a concern right now#wga strike#wgat the hell#writing#union#writers guild of america#go slay#writers! you can do it!
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Mairon
#sauron#I didn’t even watch this show but damn this dude looks dangerously close to the Sauron I imagined while reading the books#guess I have to watch now
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so i watched fallout because of these two, here's a wip 🙆♀️
#stopped at ep 4 but i will finish the series eventually#i read ao3 fics of them before i even watched the show lol#i will color this but im also very busy on uni so it might take long to finish it#lucy maclean#cooper howard#the ghoul#ghoulcy#vaultghoul#fallout#fallout prime#my art#wip
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Back at it with my enchanted merthur shenanigans
#when Merlin goes to work#(I am undecided on what he does but I think he does have a job (probably a librarian I’d that’s not TOO cliche…))#he sets Arthur up with a bunch of history books and documentaries to try get him up to date (as much as he can)#and in the evenings they watch all Merlin’s favourite tv shows and movies#I can’t pick what kinds of movies Merlin and Arthur like#I get the feeling they both like pride and prejudice but I’m also biased#I think Arthur would like murder mysteries#ALSO If anyone’s got any fics where Merlin introduces Arthur to modern society please please PLEASE GIVE THEM TO ME#my art#bbc merlin#merlin#merlin emrys#arthur pendragon#merthur
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i can't believe one piece invented gay people
#HELP???????#WHAT#one piece#op#one piece live action#opla#spoilers#min watches one piece#I WANNA MAKE A SEPERATE POST FOR THE NAMIKAYA MOMENTS#DUDE THE LIVE ACTION IS LEGITIMATELY GOOD??#im enjoying it a lot so far#idk what others are saying but it doesn't matter cuz im having fun#even if the characters act a little different than they do in the show#it's something new though! i think that's really cool#lusopp#zosopp#^_^<- insane#monkey d luffy#roronoa zoro#usopp#iñaki godoy#jacob gibson#mackenyu
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POV you read the book of bill and then the 3rd journal and then lost legends and then the great gatsby and rewatched the show twice and are on your third rewatch in the past two months and watched a bajillion animatics and character analysises and actually read fanfic which you never do like ever and you’re starting to feel like you’re running out of content and might need to start drawing more
#my archive#phthalos thoughts#bill cipher gravity falls#gravity falls bill cipher#gravity falls stanley#gravity falls stanford#gravity falls bill#gravity falls#the book of bill#journal 3#gravity falls brainrot#billford#fiddauthor#gravity falls wendy#gravity falls mabel#gravity falls dipper#gravity falls soos#gravity falls fiddleford#gravity falls fanart#I’m dying#it’s an issue at this point and it’s consuming my every waking moment#also it doesn’t help that it’s very nostalgic and ever since I watched the show I idolized dipper and Mabel’s relationship because my brothe#rs and I never#really got along so I felt like an inadequate sibling#even more so when people said that they had a similar relationship with their siblings as dipper and Mabel but I never did and I knew it#was me and my family not everyone else#oops sorry I’m rambling a bit#WHY IS THE SHITPOST SO POPULAR GO LOOK AT Y#MY ACTUAL ART 😭😭😭#my artchive
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“Icarus.”
it's all about freedom really
Credit goes to An Sifakah for the poem. Enjoy!
Support me on Ko-fi maybe?
#lake's art#happy birthday sabo!#this time actually on time wow#revolutionary sabo#one piece sabo#asl brothers#asl trio#monkey d. luffy#portgas d ace#watch me tag ace even though he barely shows up#one piece comic#one piece#one piece fanart#oh i'll confess. i traced that ship from a screencap#there's no force on earth that can make me draw a whole ass ship sorry#as always I am stupidly proud of exactly 1 (one) page and this time it's the third#but i also just love that part of the poem so i was already biased towards it before i drew it lmao#i had a whole ass explanation for the reasoning behind this comic that i wrote at like. 3 am. but fuck knows what i did with it#i contemplated colors and immediately gave up. hell nah i'm not doing that again
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when worlds collide
#no idea if this is funny to anyone else but me#i havent even watched either of these shows yet#the duality of pedro pascal is just funny to me#so much range and he still keeps getting cast as the put upon father figure#anyway#i have plans with my bestie to watch tlou this weekend#itll be the first time ive ever engaged with tlou like fully#not just perceiving spoilers on the tl#its gonna be great <3#tlou#tlou show#tlou ellie#joel miller#the mandalorian#stillindigo art
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i wouldn't have met you
#guess whats stuck in my head now#i actually havent caught onto any shows or series for several years and to follow up this one i think has been really pleasant#and painful#its been really nice to see closure for simon hes such an old man skrunkle#i dont even watch a lot of AT in the past but i do know enough to feel that pain like Man i almost forgot shows can be Worth it#fionna the human#fionna campbell#cake the cat#simon petrikov#and a tiny dash of#winter king#qiiarts#fionna and cake#adventure time
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I do think Blazing Saddles handled its one depiction of native americans very poorly, and the full extent of its representation of chinese workers on the railroad is they were literally just there. not even one single speaking line. unclear if this is worse or better than the redface.
it's fucking phenomenal at lampooning antiblack racism though. extremely blatant, extremely funny satire, which is constantly and loudly saying "racism is the philosophy of the terminally stupid at best and morally depraved at worst, and we should all be pointing and laughing at them 24/7"
plus the main character is a heroic black man who has to navigate a whole lot of bullshit but is constantly smirking at the extraordinarily stupid racists and inviting the audience into the joke. the one heroic white character is a guy who was suicidally depressed until he met the protagonist and they just instantly became buds, and he's firmly in a supporting role the whole time and happy to be there. the protagonist saves the day with the help of his black friends from the railroad, and uses the position of power he was given to uplift not only those friends, but all the railroad workers of other minorities too, in an explicit show of solidarity.
anyone saying "Blazing Saddles is racist" had better be talking about its treatment of non-black minorities. it had better not be such superficial takes as "oh but they say the n-word all the time" or "they have nazis and the kkk in there!" because goddamn if that's the full extent of your critique I very seriously suggest you read up on media analysis. there is too much going over your head, you need to learn to recognize satire.
#blazing saddles#finx watches tv#finx rambles#I recognize that I'm saying all this as someone who's not black#but I am also saying it as someone with a basic understanding of race relations in the usa#and a basic understanding of sarcasm#bc it really does not take more than that to recognize what they're doing in this movie#it is NOT subtle#and it is very funny#mel brooks movies are kinda hit or miss for me ngl#men in tights is great if a bit too crass for my taste#spaceballs has great jokes but the central story lacks any real heart so it doesn't grab me#history of the world was just kind of unpleasant and then I switched it off#but blazing saddles? phenomenal#I could not stop laughing the whole way through#and the central story DOES have heart bc it's the friendship between bart and#whassisname#jim#the Kid#plus bart working out how to succeed at an impossible task#also frankly cleavon little just grounds the comedy really well even before gene wilder shows up and we get their chemistry#bc he's cool calm collected and constantly inviting the audience into the joke#but the character's not too cool to ever mess up or ever be silly#he makes bad choices and gets into bad situations and then has to get himself out of them#but it's.....oh wait duh there's a term for this already#he's the straight man#he grounds all the zany nonsense by being in strong contrast to it#and he does a great job of it!#anyway#point is I deeply enjoyed this movie and I'm glad I finally watched it
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Baby Emblem. Three Babies
#carrying over my posts from twitter choo chooooo#2024 art#Dedue is the dad that stepped up#Hilda is the mom that stepped down#Hubert is the dad that stepped into panic mode and won't let anyone within a 12 foot radius of Edelgard#meanwhile the Ashen Wolves are hiding behind a pillar watching baby Yuri gurgle on the floor#wondering when Aelfric will show up to save them#Fe3h#Fire Emblem#The entire Golden Deer classroom stepped down tbh#Raphael save them Raphael#BL collective: together we can raise Dimitri in a safer and kinder way#GD: together we can make Claude even worse#BE: together we can figure out whose baby Hubert just kidnapped
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is buck even listening T_T
#i don't think he even has a clue#he's just watching tommy's face like pretty boy#look at that smile tho#please he's so down#bucktommy#evan buckley#tommy kinard#buck x tommy#911 on abc#911 spoilers#911 abc#911 7x04#911 s7#911 show#evan buck buckley#911 buck#911 tommy#my gifs#911 gif
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mid crisis but here's firefighter AU despite 75% of the firefighters i know being absolute douchebags
#star wars#aviiart#the clone wars#tcw#commander cody#obi wan kenobi#not related to 911 the tv show ive never watched it#have fun w this one I'm gonna go get crossed 💗#before anyone asks yes i am ok pls do not get worried i am being ✨✨dramatic™���✨#sometimes you get your best ideas mid not even quarter life crisis
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captain's warm hugs! (id in alt)
#opfanart#one piece#monkey d luffy#roronoa zoro#nami#usopp#sanji#my first nongun art in 8 kabillion years. i watched opla recently and it resurged smth deep within me...#idk who of my first followers are still here but one piece has been like T_T urgh. my beginnings... i love this series so much#LUFFY especially - zoro is my favorite but luffy is the heart of the show!!! inaki's performance was really fun and carried that same#vibrancy - it made me sooo happy to see... and in general the romance dawn crew has always been dear to my heart uuu... the la gave a lot o#good bits between the og trio but i def wish we couldv seen more with usopp & sanji too. but maybe.. if we ever get a season 2 :'D#anyway i love the straw hats steadily getting used to luffy's shenanigans and even liking it at some point. the warming up part of all thei#friendships is so dear to me and its just a natural blossom of comfort and trust. and some of these mfs are Touch starved fr....#ruporas art
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