#oh that was FUN

[legobiwan]

Hey lego between bill Cipher and dimentio who do you would win in a battle?

I'm going to give the edge to Bill. But with some caveats.

Let's start with the basics.

Physical Combat

For as formidable of an opponent as Dimentio can be, we never once see him throw a punch or engage in physical combat throughout the entirety of the events of SPM, minus when he's merged with Luigi and the Chaos Heart as Super Dimentio. But we know he can be dealt physical damage, as evidenced by his defeat at the hands of Mario & gang and later, Luigi.

Bill, on the other hand, is perfectly capable and even eager to dole out a fist or two, as long as he has a physical form, as seen during Weirdmageddon.

Now, if Bill isn't manifested, then it's a bit more of an even fight, as both combatants have to rely on magic and manipulation to gain the advantage on the other. Bill is relegated to the dreamscape/mindscape, while Dimentio, who is wholly (mostly, kind of) physical, would have to battle Bill in his own mind, which could be....chancy, given just how unstable Dimentio is.

Bill is relegated to what he can draw from Dimentio's mind, which is probably nutso enough to use. Dimentio can traverse dimensions, but that's useless if the fight is in your own head.

Advantage: Bill

Manipulation

Both characters rely heavily on manipulation as a means of control and victory. Bill's downfall is his ego (if he had taken one second to really look at Stan and Ford's swap, he could have won the universe right there and then). Dimentio is just a tad bit too impatient. If he let Luigi stew an iota more, if he had taken just a slightly different approach during their confrontation in Bleck's Castle, things might have gone a bit differently. (And really, all Dimentio had to do was call upon Luigi's dicey memories of being Mr. L, of his brother attacking him. He could tell Luigi they're working towards a common goal of defeating Bleck or something similar and it may well have worked).

I doubt that one could have out-manipulated the other - they'd just be like two snarling dogs the entire time throwing out increasingly baroque insults at each other.

Advantage: Tie

Ability to Die

Let's get into my favorite topic, the cosmic/metaphysical realm.

Bill is a trillions of years old cosmic being (demon) that comes from a dimension of beings who are absolutely able to be killed. (How do we know? He murdered his entire dimension/world). What we don't know is how. And I imagine it's not easy. Ford needed a damn memory gun to excise Bill and it's not 100% certain he's completely wiped from existence, especially given his deal with the Axolotl.

Dimentio is complicated because in my mind, even when we meet him, he's not wholly corporeal. In that, I believe he's half-Pixl, half-Ancient. Meaning he can die, but he has a long lifespan that is linked to his memories and existence pre-whatever his father did to him in those experiments with the Dark Prognosticus. (As an aside, I do not think his father is the Author of the Prognosticus. That person, at least in terms of my personal mythology for SPM, is and will remain a perennial mystery).

Of course, Dimentio can gain a semblance of immortality if he is protected by the Chaos Heart. And in my mind, anyone who merges with the Chaos Heart (and as far as we know, this is relegated to Luigi and Dimentio only, as Bleck only sought to control the Chaos Heart, not merge his metaphysical form with it) - anyway, anyone who merges with the Chaos Heart is likely functionally immortal, considering that the Chaos Heart can only be delayed, not destroyed, and that entropy, is, you know, a thing.

So in that sense, Dimentio might win the war, although Bill would certainly win the battle.

Advantage: Dimentio

Human Avatars

Both Dimentio and Bill use others as a kind of proxy to accomplish what their goals, mostly notably, Ford with Bill and Luigi with Dimentio. So this question could really come down to Ford versus Luigi, which is a fascinating concept.

Before I get into the strength of alliances with their respective "patrons", let's just talk about native abilities.

Oddly enough, both men are from a similar geographic area, meaning they share a common culture (even though the Jersey Shore and Brooklyn are two wildly different animals, there's still a fair amount of crossover there). So temperaments and difficulties coming of age in such an environment wouldn't be too dissimilar.

They're both scientists, albeit Luigi is on the practical, engineering side and Ford is more of a theorist in quantum physics and cryptozoology. They both feel unappreciated and feud with their brother, who is their polar opposite (seemingly).

They both, at first, did not show a capability for fighting, which changed with necessity - Ford in the Portal and Luigi in his encounters with King Boo.

They both are skilled marksmen (Ford and his guns; Luigi as a sharpshooter in the Rabbids series).

They are probably pretty evenly matched in this realm.

The only difference, in my mind, is their dedication to their "benefactor." Luigi has never trusted Dimentio. Ford has been a one-man cult in his devotion to Bill. Depending on when these two interacted, Ford would 100% win based on that shrine alone.

Advantage: Bill

Age

We don't know exactly when the Mario world takes place in comparison to our own, but let's stick with the idea that Mario and Luigi get sucked down that warp pipe sometime in the 90s, only because the cartoons were formative to my youth and a lot of my heaadcanons are based around this notion.

Why is this important? Because the events that preceded SPM occurred about 1500 years in the past.

Bill, on the other hand, is trillions of years old. He killed Time Baby. (Well, less killed than kicked the can down the metaphysical road). I don't think Dimentio is the first magician trickster Bill has encountered. The only mitigating factor here would be the Chaos Heart, and honestly, the Chaos Heart is something that I feel falls far beyond the control of Bill or Dimentio, as it's the embodiment of entropy in the universe, or the inevitable end of all things from which will begin life anew; the ourborous of life and death and there's nothing even Bill can do about that).

But in isolation? Bill's just seen more than Dimentio.

Advantage: Bill

Conclusion

While it wouldn't be impossible for Dimentio to defeat Bill, I do think Bill has a pretty large advantage given what I've outlined above. This being said, if they actually decided to join forces, or even better, if a turned Ford and Luigi decided to join forces (and how fun would that be?) Well, RIP multiverse.

[emilnikos]

I need non autistic people to realise meltdowns are a real debilitating thing that has a serious effect on your mental and physical health NOWWWWW!!! The way its been trivialized and lessened pisses me the fuck off. It's not a tantrum and it doesn't come from "being too weak-willed" it's painful and it's embarrassing AND MOST OF ALL IT'S INVOLUNTARY!! Don't claim to be an ally to autistic or disabled people and then make fun of people who have meltdowns. Literally get the hell out of my sight

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

Must be a Sugondese joke.

[evgar]

this came to me in a dream

[ratbastarddotfuck]

is this nonbinary person actually "male presenting", or did you just decide that based on your arbitrary idea of maleness?

is this nonbinary person actually "female presenting", or did you just decide that based on your arbitrary idea of femaleness?

perhaps they're just "presenting" as themselves and your binary biases are clouding your judgement?

[lesbianshepard]

[soldrawss]

I miss them I miss them so much I just wanna give them silly clothing and a fun childhood

[agentromanoffsir]

neocities guide - why you should build your own html website

do you miss the charm of the 90s/00s web where sites had actual personality instead of the same minimalistic theme? are you feeling drained by social media and the constant corporate monopoly of your data and time? do you want to be excited about the internet again? try neocities!!

what is neocities?

neocities is a free hosting website that lets you build your own html website from scratch, with total creative control. in their own words: "we are tired of living in an online world where people are isolated from each other on boring, generic social networks that don't let us truly express ourselves. it's time we took back our personalities from these sterilized, lifeless, monetized, data mined, monitored addiction machines and let our creativity flourish again."

why should I make my own website?

web3 has been overtaken by capitalism & conformity. websites that once were meant to be fun online social spaces now exist solely to steal your data and sell you things. it sucks!! building a personal site is a great way to express yourself and take control of your online experience.

what would I even put on a website?

the best part about making your own site is that you can do literally whatever the hell you want! focus on a specific subject or make it a wild collection of all your interests. share your art! make a shrine for one of your interests! post a picture of every bird you see when you step outside! make a collection of your favorite blinkies! the world is your oyster !! here are some cool example sites to inspire you: recently updated neocities sites | it can be fun to just look through these and browse people's content! space bar | local interstellar dive bar creature feature | halloween & monsters big gulp supreme peanutbuttaz | personal site dragodiluna linwood | personal site patho grove | personal site

getting started: neocities/html guide

sound interesting? here are some guides to help you get started, especially if you aren't familiar with html/css sadgrl.online webmastery | a fantastic resource for getting started with html & web revival. also has a layout builder that you can use to start with in case starting from scratch is too intimidating web design in 4 minutes | good for learning coding basics w3schools | html tutorials templaterr | demo & html for basic web elements eggramen test pages | css page templates to get started with sadgrl background tiles | bg tiles rivendell background tiles | more free bg tiles

fun stuff to add to your site

want your site to be cool? here's some fun stuff that i've found blinkies-cafe | fantastic blinkie maker! (run by @transbro & @graphics-cafe) gificities | internet archive of 90s/00s web gifs internet bumper stickers | web bumper stickers momg | gif gallery 99 gif shop | 3d gifs 123 guestbook | add a guestbook for people to leave messages cbox | add a live chat box moon phases | track the phases of the moon gifypet | a little clickable page pet adopt a shroom | mushroom page pet tamaNOTchi | virtual pet crossword puzzle | daily crossword imood | track your mood neko | cute cat that chases your mouse pollcode | custom poll maker website hit counter | track how many visitors you have

web revival manifestos & communities

also, there's actually a pretty cool community of people out there who want to bring joy back to the web! melonland project | web project/community celebrating individual & joyful online experiences. Also has an online forum melonland intro to web revival | what is web revival? melonking manifesto | status cafe | share your current status nightfall city | online community onio.cafe | leave a message and enjoy the ambiance sadgrl internet manifesto | yesterweb internet manifesto | sadly defunct, still a great resource reclaiming online social spaces | great manifesto on cultivating your online experience

in conclusion

i want everyone to make a neocities site because it's fun af and i love seeing everyone's weird personal sites that they made outside of the control of capitalism :) say hi to me on neocities

[anna-scribbles]

old doodles from the archives 🫶

[illusioncanthurtme--art]

Just a man and his muse :)

A shameless plug for something I drew last night!

(I think I'll do a separate post for a proper Patreon update, cuz I've gotten so much support, and I've been doing a lot with it this past week and having a really good time!)

[maigetheplatypus57]

Do you think Evbo learned how to do those jumps and thought "oh this is so sick what's the best way I can show off my parkour skills"

[isjasz]

📸📸📸 (screenshot redraws :D)

[marsipain]

Norwegian Mikus :)

Left is Miku as a russ and right is Miku in a bunad!

[dokani]

decided i’m gonna get this printed as a poster and just hang it above my bed so each morning i can wake up feeling like a victim of medical malpractice

[xxplastic-cubexx]

something about first impressions idk

bonus:

[candyje11yfish]

[wip] shooting star frye!!! i Looove spacey stuff!!!!