#octives

[multiplicity-positivity]

Hi !!! Um okay. So..

I know how this sounds kinda? Idk may just be paranoia. But.

I have some OCtives that are not my OCs and also some are based off of.... adopts....

What should i do when we split ocs based off of adopts? I know obviously i shouldnt use any art because i didnt pay for them, but i am afraid. Like.. what if that headmate doesnt want to change ( and they shouldnt HAVE to but. ) ?

same with OCtives. Most ocs i have let the owners know before leaving, and they understood but idk. I still feel weird.

hey, so headmates often can’t help who they are. and as we wouldn’t expect a factive or a fictive (whose source is often someone else’s original character) to change their appearance for the benefit of others, we feel similarly about this. because introjects can’t help who they are.

now, this isn’t us saying that any system who creates headmates gets a free pass to create headmates based off of any adopts they see that they want to own but don’t want to pay for. in general, we think that would be a selfish and mean thing to do.

this is a tricky situation, and we can’t say for sure that we have the best solution here, but the things that come to mind are…

- you could buy the adopt or pay for the design. then it is yours to use as you wish, and you can make art for your headmate to your hearts’ contents. if you cannot afford it at this time, perhaps you could speak to the artist and see if they would be willing to place the design on hold.

- you could explain the situation to this octive, and see if the two of you could collaborate to create a new appearance for them. you can unleash your creativity by drawing, writing out descriptions, or making picrews and see if anything sticks.

- you could let this headmate live their life without forcing them to change… without drawing them, getting commissions of them, or trying to depict them physically like the adopt or oc they are based off of. let them live their life and discover more about who they are as an individual. and if they ever reach a point where they notice some differences, in name, appearance, identity, what have you, then y’all may feel more comfortable with depicting them in art.

we are wary of saying “just go about your business with this headmate anyway and hope that the original artist doesn’t see that their design was taken without their consent,” because, while it’s true this headmate deserves to live as themselves as they see fit… this could definitely end up badly, for both the headmate and the artist who created their original design.

we know that none of these solutions are ideal, but we feel like it’s important to consider the original creators in these situations. ocs and adopts are inherently different from characters found in published works. the designs of the former may have strong personal connections and connotations with their creators, and the designs of the latter are meant to be purchased and used by others. while it’s true, the characters within published works may be personally very significant to their creators, by allowing others to interact and engage with their works, they are subjecting their characters to the interpretations of others. we feel like personal ocs are different in this regard.

so sorry if this response got rambly and doesn’t make much sense. if anyone else has any advice to share, it would be most welcome.

[secretspiritmoodboards]

Collage for Isaac (OCtive) servitude/being a butler/hating life/bitter and hateful trans man/red/brown themes For @corpse-regression ^^ Hope you like this~

We're closed for now, thank you~

[luxlitemidnight]

holding my OCs that haven't introjected very carefully so that I can continue to play with my dolls and hope that they do not turn into real boys like Pinocchio

[zeros-sys]

positivity for introjects!

shout out to introjects who don't identify with their source at all

shout out to introjects who do identify with their source

shout out to introjects of people/factives

shout out to introjects of original characters/octives

shout out to introjects of objects/obtives

shout out to introjects of concepts/conceptives

shout out to introjects of other alters

shout out to introjects of the body/what the body was like before being a system

shout out to introjects of imaginary friends

shout out to introjects of paracosms/that formed from maladaptive daydreaming

shout out to introjects of "trendy/one hit wonder" media that the system isn't interested in anymore or hyperfixations

shout out to introjects who dislike being an introject due to how people have treated them for it

shout out to nonhuman introjects who are forced to be source seperated because they are in a human body

shout out to introjects of people/factives that hate/are upset about the lack of positivity for them

shout out to introjects who identify with labels that wouldn't align with their source

shout out to introjects whose source would hate them

shout out to introjects who love/obsess over their source

shout out to introjects of things that are very old or not well known/niche

shout out to introjects who hate/are apathetic to their source

shout out to introjects who don't fully consider themselves introjects

shout out to introjects with no source memories

shout out to introjects who also kin

shout out to introjects who used to think they kinned their source

shout out to introjects of people/factives that love their source

shout out to introjects of people/factives that hate their source

shout out to introjects who know nothing about their source

shout out to introjects that know everything about their source

shout out to introjects with shifting/changing source memories

shout out to introjects who forgot a lot about their source

shout out to introjects with trauma that closely resembles exotrauma

shout out to introjects who are never mentioned in fandoms

shout out to introjects who get upset at the way people "misinterpret" their source

shout out to introjects whose experiences are ignored by other systems/the cdd community

shout out introjects!

[does-it-introject]

[demitheshine]

As a system that's almost exclusively OCtives/mostives, this post is very appreciated ^^

I've seen confusion over this in the past, so I just want to put it out there that yes, it's perfectly normal to have fictives of OCs. They're sometimes called OCtives or mostives, and they're especially common amongst artists who regularly make art (whether writing, visual art, or something else) of their OCs, but they're by no means limited to those people. Many systems have them!

I've seen a fair number of folks who worry that this isn't possible or that having a fictive like this means they're faking, but hold your horses there, buds. Why would fictives be limited to sources made by someone outside the system? Why would a source being made by your system prevent you from gaining any fictives from it? Fictives of OCs happen all the time and are all around the community, it's just a little harder to find conversations about them compared to other kinds of fictives. Once you know what you're looking for – communities of plural writers, "my characters literally live in my head", etc. – it becomes a lot easier to find them.

If you have fictives of OCs, or are a fictive of an OC your system made, you're not alone! You're not doing anything wrong, especially not existing as you are. So, don't worry about it, okay? Okay.

[sysboxes]

[Text: This system has a lot of OC fictives.]

[Text: This system has a lot of OCtives.]

[Text: This system has a lot of OC alters.]

[Text: This system has a lot of alters based off of OCs.]

[Text: This system has a lot of OC introjects.]

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[octives-culture-is]

Welcome to octive culture is!

(Plain text: Welcome to octive culture is!)

You probably already know how this works: send in an ask starting with “octive culture is”, “original character fictive culture is”, or “oc fictive culture is” and then put something about being an octive, doesn’t matter if it’s something any octive would relate to or something super specific to your own experiences. Fandom ocs count!

No real rules yet, just stay on topic and try to be nice. No DNI but we are pro endo. Antis can interact or submit things but bringing that opinion onto this blog may result in deletion of your ask and hateful behavior towards endos may result in blocking.

Cool similar blogs (sorry if tagging annoys any of you): @octives-space @fictive-culture @introject-culture @cringegenic @misc-system-culture-is @plural-culture-is

Our ask box is open!

This is a side blog run by The Scribbled Cosmos System (@scribbledcosmos). We are a mixed origin, probably nondisordered system with a ton of octives! posts will be cued by whoever’s in front but if someone actually says something about the post then you can most likely assume they’re an octive themselves.

Tagging system:

#octive culture is = self explanatory

#octive culture isn’t = any posts that aren’t octive culture submissions

If a headmate is giving commentary on a post they��ll probably have a tag of their own, either their name/alias, their name/alias followed by an emoji, or just an emoji.

-Posted by Rals (he/they/it)

[spacestationsystem]

heres a little comic to make up for the horrors

[redacted-coiner]

Fictive, Introject, Factive

Facamtive(link), Msuicative(link), Editive(link)

Spiritive(link), Songtive(link), OCtive(link)

System Introject Types! Being I think it’d be nice, all I ask is that this post doesn’t have discourse on the post.

DNI is listed within my pinned post. Please go read it before interacting with any part of my content. Ask to tag.

[secretspiritmoodboards]

Positivity for Swift Horse (OCtive) for @evilmcdonaldland

So, just wanted to start by saying this is a really cool character, just like all of the other ones spoken of. I would love to see a whole series of movies/books, something based on them.

Swift Horse is a strong strong man. In so many ways, taking what he was given and using it to become strong. Strong in so many countless ways. I don't blame him in the slightest for his hatred of white men while being in the middle of colonization, nor do I blame him for killing the preacher that did him so much wrong.

He may have become a demon in his life, but I don't for one second believe he is a bad character. He did what he needed, and if he felt he needed to eliminate the father's soul, then I continue to stand by that.

He still protects the lands, even if he does not see it as 'his' land, he is still territorial. Even after all this time, I still would trust him in holding the lands as his own.

I am glad to hear he is close with Stark, as both of them deserve each other in their lives. Both to keep Stark close to his roots, and to give Swift Horse the bit of humanity he may need to cling to this world.

He is a very complex character, with many aspects making him the way he is, but as I said he's a very strong and brave character, and I enjoyed very much reading about him. -Spirit

[plural-culture-is]

fictive culture is "does this count as source trauma. it doesn't right. WAIT FUCK DOES IT." and OCtive culture is the host feeling bad for giving it to you

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[luxlitemidnight]

When your OC accidentally introjects

[nidoskull]

giving your ocs trauma is all fun and games until you are ocs

[bakedbeanz]

Benny Gecko is the New Vegas version of Jerma, change my mind

[zeros-sys]

alternatives to some system terms!

brainmade - headmade

fictive - fictroject, fictional introject

factive - factroject, non-fiction introject

octive - octroject, oc introject

mixtive - mixtroject, mixed introject, splitroject

headspace - brainspace, mindspace, innerworld

made cause ik some systems don't like using these terms, if you have any others that aren't endo coined please tell and I'll add them!